Re: [Trisquel-users] QupZilla-libre?

2017-11-23 Thread hd-scania
So, is that true which Gtk2 is being deprecated? GNOME has deprecated Gtk2  
for years, but this is well criticized the Gtk+ backward compatibiltiies over  
Gtk2 are ‘‘worse than worst’’, this needs to be just why LXQt leaves  
Gtk+ and Bugdie needs to experiment in LXQt as to quit Gtk+.
A number of people have felt which a number Gtk+ elements are ugly but they  
cant back to Gtk2, they have hence told the forums they are active, they need  
LXQt to fully quit Gtk+.
But I need to tell them Deepin, Liri, Lumina also fit their needs that they  
are Qt only, if they are also in FreeBSD world Lumina should be their  
favourite desktop, KDE dsnt fit which it integrates Qt with Gtk+ and Gtk2. A  
nonfree Arch derivative, Chakra, if they need to discourage Gtk they instead  
need to endorse LXQt and Liri, but also to deprecate KDE, above has been why.


Re: [Trisquel-users] QupZilla-libre?

2017-11-23 Thread csh

IKR? :(


Re: [Trisquel-users] QupZilla-libre?

2017-11-23 Thread csh
You have people who use Fuckbook? That site's malicious, proprietary  
JavaScript is almost as bad as Facebook's.


Re: [Trisquel-users] QupZilla-libre?

2017-11-22 Thread onpon4
No, the version of Qupzilla in the repo is still the version that uses  
QtWebKit; this is true even of Ubuntu 16.04. The engine switch was more  
recent. It's definitely insecure, though, because QtWebKit is insecure.


Are we sure that there is actually proprietary software in this, though? I  
know that it's a common meme to say that Chromium is not entirely libre, but  
no one ever backs this claim up with evidence (by pointing to examples of  
non-libre files).


Re: [Trisquel-users] QupZilla-libre?

2017-11-22 Thread greatgnu

Xfce is transition, a looong one.


Re: [Trisquel-users] QupZilla-libre?

2017-11-21 Thread hd-scania
How ‘‘libre’’ this Falkon will be can’t be assessed? It is  
migrating QupZilla from a Qt-only platform into KDE, but KDE is not Qt only,  
instead needs to integrate between Qt and Gtk+/Gtk2, however by how much this  
matters?
Basically, the "freeness" of Falkon/QupZilla cannot be assessed due to the  
magnitude of transitions with the project, but at first blush there doesn't  
seem to be any issues.


Re: [Trisquel-users] QupZilla-libre?

2017-11-21 Thread hd-scania
Yes I have heard QupZilla is integrating into KDE this summer, but not which  
KDE needs QupZilla to replace their aging Konqueror, though I of course know  
Konqueror was aging. Anyway I still dont see what QupZilla will be and  
related names in the KF5 or KDE5 flags of apps from my Parabola system.

[hd_scania@hd-scania ~]$ pacman -Ss falkon
[hd_scania@hd-scania ~]$ pacman -Ss Pepper Qt
[hd_scania@hd-scania ~]$ pacman -Ss Pepper
[hd_scania@hd-scania ~]$
Also KDE has a well known major con to be too resources occupying, which KDE  
needs to integrate Qt with the Gtk+ and Gtk2 apps, but LXQt, Deepin, Liri,  
Lumina are only focused on Qt which unlike KDE they dnt integrate Qt with  
other platforms.
To be Qt only please instead use LXQt, Deepin, Liri, Lumina, to be Gtk+ only  
please use Xfce or GNOME, to be Gtk2 only please use MATE. By using KDE you  
must accept that fate your machine will be too lagged due to its bloat.


Re: [Trisquel-users] QupZilla-libre?

2017-11-21 Thread dhood

Your information seems out of date gd-scania

Firstly, QupZilla is no more. The project has formally joined KDE and is now  
known as Falkon. The versions of Qupzilla in the repos are old and will be  
deprecated. Secondly, Flakon will not be using QtWebKit anymore as it has  
also been depreciated, Flakon (and the most current version of QupZilla) use  
Qt WebEngine instead.


Flakon and QupZilla both carry GPL licenses and are free software. They are  
not forks Chromium as far as I know, they use Blink which also carries the  
GPL.


I am not familiar with Pepper, but I know Debian packages it separately, so  
it would stand to reason that would be why it isn't included downstream to  
Trisquel if Ubuntu didn't bother to change it. Since it is a pretty niche app  
that seems likely.


Basically, the "freeness" of Falkon/QupZilla cannot be assessed due to the  
magnitude of transitions with the project, but at first blush there doesn't  
seem to be any issues.





Re: [Trisquel-users] QupZilla-libre?

2017-11-21 Thread hd-scania
Flidas (i.e. T8) has liberated QupZilla by erasing these Google nonfree  
libraries (Google has licensed Chromium into MIT and MPL but not GPL,  
mis-tolerating Chromium to the nonfree deps), but Parabola has not updated  
QupZulla since this March, this is here I am requesting Parabola to follow  
this. SCJ6, smart Cangjie generation 6 IME, is always missing in Parabola.
I have today invited few Fuckbook friends to Parabola and Trisquel to be  
their first few GNU systems, one hasnt priorly known what are free software,  
they are first of all GNU systems in PC like Parabola and Trisquel, and  
F-droid app centre in Androids.
Once he feels Parabola and Trisquel nice I will also need him to quit nonfree  
Gplay for Androids like PC, plus if present he will be always needed to throw  
his iOS devices.


Re: [Trisquel-users] QupZilla-libre?

2017-11-21 Thread masonhock
Do the versions of QupZilla in Trisquel and Parabola have these non-free  
components?