Re: [TruthTalk] Transitional Considerations and the Gospel.
It is disappointing to me that Linda saw me making fun of the Millers as they left on vacation to the beaches of Florida. IN REALITY, I was reminding not only them but all who read that post, that the preaching of the gospel is not the definition of what it is that we are to be about when it comes to our involvement in the conversion of the world. Not all. Such a view is even sophomoric in nature and foreign to what we have actually been given to do. We are prophets, priests and kings in a world in need of the ministry of reconciliation (II Co 5) In this country (the USA), we have sought to control the world's attitude regarding the church. There was a time when Sunday had its own laws and rules of conduct... for the world. We dictated to an unbelievingcommunity what they would do on that Special Day. If they would not go to church on that day, they sure as hell were not going to do anything else !!! And in this force fed political atmosphere, the world decided enough was enough. And we stood on the street corners and yelled our brand of obscenities at them. Times are a changing. The world is going to FORCE THE CHURCH to do something right !! .to get real with this ministry of reconciliation thingy.or die on the vine. I personally believe that the evangelical community is close to being what it needs to be. It is less sectarian than it used to be (at least here in Fresno) and more open to evangelical experimentation.If it (the modern Fundamental church of which I am a part) were to add to its presentation a comprehensive involvement in the needs of the community in which it finds itself, it would find itself morein tune with thebiblical imperative to preach the gospel to the world. Is the power of the gospel to the found in the preaching of the gospel ??? --- not at all. Rather, it lies in the intrinsic value of the good deed !!! I Pet 2:11ff makes it clear that when the world rejects our message (the verbal ministry of the Word) it will see OUR GOOD DEEDS AND GLORIFY GOD. This is exactly why James defines religion in terms of benevolent action. That was the attitude I had in mind when I included the fatherless and widows. JD
Re: [TruthTalk] Hill Cumorah
Mr. Moderator: This is over the top and, not necessary. L - Original Message - From: Charles Perry Locke [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: June 13, 2005 23:26 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Hill Cumorah Do you think you Grandfather is a god now, with spirit wives, and possible the pitter-patter of little spirit feet? From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Hill Cumorah Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 19:15:05 EDT In a message dated 6/13/2005 2:09:44 PM Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I would think that we all choose to believe whatever based upon our view of the credibility of the truth source closest to us in terms of time and space.I mean, if Blaine was born a Mormon,' his first source of truth would be his parents. Who's he going to believe -- his parents or some guy standing cross the street waving underwear. And, by the time he gets to a free thinking age, he already has such a systematize faith that little will prevail against it.THAT'S NORMAL.Blaine may or not believe this -- but THANK GOD WE DO NOT HAVE TO BE RIGHT. JD Blaine: Good, JD. I agree parents are critical in what children end up believing. I am very fortunate to have had good advice and guidance from my mom and dad.My grandpa was also very influential, mostly by his example. He served two missions (LDS) to Norway, and another one to Spokane, Washington. He recorded many miraculous healings, casting out of devils, etc. in his writings. He was a Judge in regular life, and often required those he saw in court to go to church, the denomination being left to them. He was always in favor of religious training, regardless of the belief system. Any belief that advocates Christian values, he felt, was better than the value systems that got people into trouble with the law. Nevertheless, he lived and died by the LDS doctrines. -- Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man. (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed. -- Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man. (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.
RE: [TruthTalk] NYTimes.com: Revisiting '64 Civil Rights Deaths, This Time in a
Indians slaughtered Indians too!ShieldsFamily [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's a bit more complicated than that, JD. I don't believe in idolizing the American Indian, even though I'm a descendant of one. Izzy From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2005 1:36 PMTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: Re: [TruthTalk] NYTimes.com: Revisiting '64 Civil Rights Deaths, This Time in a A close #2 on the list of "we have rights and no one else does"and we kill to prove it. Jd-Original Message-From: Charles Perry Locke [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Sun, 12 Jun 2005 09:45:29 -0700Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] NYTimes.com: Revisiting '64 Civil Rights Deaths, This Time in a JD, how would you rank the way we treated the native americans compared to the blacks?From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Reply-To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: Re: [TruthTalk] NYTimes.com: Revisiting '64 Civil Rights Deaths, This Time in a Murder TrialDate: Sun, 12 Jun 2005 11:09:38 -0400Good post. The way we treated the blacks notso long ago is perhaps the most bing part of our history, as a nation -- and we have more than one sore spot.I saw it first hand when I went to seminary in Dallas (not Dallas Thological). the white church, the way the newspapers addressed black people (omitting "Mr." and "Mrs." ) and so on.Your exhumanist friendJD-Original Message-From: ShieldsFamily [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Sun, 12 Jun 2005 07:12:01 -0500Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] NYTimes.com: Revisiting '64 Civil Rights Deaths, This Time in a Murder TrialI remember spending two weeks in Selma Alabama the summer Rosa Parks refused to go to the back of the bus. At the time I didn't know anything about that, but I was shocked at the way "Negroes" (the proper term at the time) were treated there. I had never experienced anything like that. Separate water fountains and windows at the Dairy Queen; separate seating areas at the movie theatre. Prevailing superiority caste system by those in control (whites). I'm glad I saw it first hand. Centuries old bigotries and ways of living die hard. Changing mindsets and mores is like going through a birth process-very painful, but worthwhile in the long run. By the way, the blacks needed to change, too, as they had been pushed down for so long; they are still learning to be self-reliant and competitive in the marketplace. Living in the inner-city gives you plenty of experience with those who haven't made the shift yet. Entire ethnic groups don't change in one generation; black or white. "The Secret Life of Bees" by Sue Monk Kidd was a cute, touching novel which addressed the southern race issue. IzzyFrom: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2005 3:55 AMTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: Re: [TruthTalk] NYTimes.com: Revisiting '64 Civil Rights Deaths, This Time in a Murder TrialWell, actually, I did not send THIS page. I thought I was sending the NY Times article, itself. Once again, the NY Times has failed us. Sorry guys. The movie was called "Mississippi Burning" with Gene Hackman and William Defoe. Excellent. It makes me angry everytime I see it. I was 19 when these three young men (my age) were murdered by the original one-toothers there in Mississippi.Anyway -- I read the Times each morning and thought this would be a simple matter in regard to emailing.JD-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Sun, 12 Jun 2005 04:40:21 -0500Subject: [TruthTalk] NYTimes.com: Revisiting '64 Civil Rights Deaths, This Time in a Murder TrialThis page was sent to you by: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Message from sender:I was given custody of my boys in 1988. They were 12 and 9 at the time. I purchased the movie of this sad event and used it to "brain wash" the boys against this sort of thing and the very ignorant poeple who commit to such bigoted actions. JDNATIONAL | June 12, 2005Revisiting '64 Civil Rights Deaths, This Time in a Murder TrialBy SHAILA DEWANEdgar Ray Killen, 80, will stand trial for murder in the killings of James Earl Chaney, Andrew Goodman and Michael H. Schwerner in Mississippi in 1964.1. Grisly Effect of One Drug: 'Meth Mouth'2. Skin Deep: Psst! This Stuff Keeps You Young, but It's Illegal3. Op-Ed Columnist: Losing Our Country4. Editorial: Zealots at the Air Force Academy5. Op-Ed Columnist: Behind Every Grad...» Go to Complete ListAdvertisement/- E-mail Sponsored by Fox Searchlight Pictures \Watch the teaser trailer now for ROLL BOUNCE - in theaters September 23In the late 70s when roller skating was a way of life, X (Bow Wow) and his pals ruled supreme. But when the doors of their local skating rink close, it marks the end of an era and the beginning of another that sees the boys venture into foreign territory - uptown's Sweetwater Roller Rink,
Re: [TruthTalk] Hill Cumorah
Lance, Thanks for your concern for Blaine and over the legitimacy and sensitivity of my line of questioning. My reason for asking that question is two-fold. One is to relate to the rest of the group what potentially awaits good mormon men who transition from men to gods and the women who may get chosen to be their eternal soirit wives. The second is to determine if Blaine has any insight or opinoin into his grandfather's current state. As for the pitter-patter of spirit feet, I thought that was a cute quip based on the parallel earthly phrase meaning the same thing when earthly human children are born. It is a common mormon belief that mormons can become gods after they die, have spirit wives, produce spirit babies, and populate a planet, just as their current god, originally from the planet Kolob, did with his spirit wives and this planet, Earth. I know several of his offspring...Satan, Jesus, Dave, and Blaine, to name a few. I do not think that a mormon would find this question offensive, no more so would any Christian of whom I askedof their deceased grandfatherr, was he a believer, implying all that we believe happens to a believer who dies. Besides, it is also possible that Blaine had heard from his grandfather from beyond the grave, as he did a great aunt, I believe it was, and knows the answer to these things. If he has received no message from his grandfather, then perhaps he has an opinion relative to that question. For example, if he knows that his grandfather performed all of the earthly works necessary to become a god, then he mey reply with certainty that he is in such a state, although he has not heard directly from him. And, since Blaine is a big boy, he can respond if he wishes, or not. Perry From: Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Hill Cumorah Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 12:57:12 -0400 Mr. Moderator: This is over the top and, not necessary. L - Original Message - From: Charles Perry Locke [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: June 13, 2005 23:26 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Hill Cumorah Do you think you Grandfather is a god now, with spirit wives, and possible the pitter-patter of little spirit feet? From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Hill Cumorah Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 19:15:05 EDT In a message dated 6/13/2005 2:09:44 PM Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I would think that we all choose to believe whatever based upon our view of the credibility of the truth source closest to us in terms of time and space.I mean, if Blaine was born a Mormon,' his first source of truth would be his parents. Who's he going to believe -- his parents or some guy standing cross the street waving underwear. And, by the time he gets to a free thinking age, he already has such a systematize faith that little will prevail against it.THAT'S NORMAL.Blaine may or not believe this -- but THANK GOD WE DO NOT HAVE TO BE RIGHT. JD Blaine: Good, JD. I agree parents are critical in what children end up believing. I am very fortunate to have had good advice and guidance from my mom and dad.My grandpa was also very influential, mostly by his example. He served two missions (LDS) to Norway, and another one to Spokane, Washington. He recorded many miraculous healings, casting out of devils, etc. in his writings. He was a Judge in regular life, and often required those he saw in court to go to church, the denomination being left to them. He was always in favor of religious training, regardless of the belief system. Any belief that advocates Christian values, he felt, was better than the value systems that got people into trouble with the law. Nevertheless, he lived and died by the LDS doctrines. -- Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man. (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed. -- Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man. (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed. -- Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man. (Colossians 4:6)
Re: [TruthTalk] Hill Cumorah
Lance, Thanks for your concern for Blaine and over the legitimacy and sensitivity of my line of questioning. My reason for asking that question is two-fold. One is to relate to the rest of the group what potentially awaits good mormon men who transition from men to gods and the women who may get chosen to be their eternal soirit wives. The second is to determine if Blaine has any insight or opinoin into his grandfather's current state. As for the pitter-patter of spirit feet, I thought that was a cute quip based on the parallel earthly phrase meaning the same thing when earthly human children are born. It is a common mormon belief that mormons can become gods after they die, have spirit wives, produce spirit babies, and populate a planet, just as their current god, originally from the planet Kolob, did with his spirit wives and this planet, Earth. I know several of his offspring...Satan, Jesus, Dave, and Blaine, to name a few. I do not think that a mormon would find this question offensive, no more so would any Christian of whom I askedof their deceased grandfatherr, was he a believer, implying all that we believe happens to a believer who dies. Besides, it is also possible that Blaine had heard from his grandfather from beyond the grave, as he did a great aunt, I believe it was, and knows the answer to these things. If he has received no message from his grandfather, then perhaps he has an opinion relative to that question. For example, if he knows that his grandfather performed all of the earthly works necessary to become a god, then he mey reply with certainty that he is in such a state, although he has not heard directly from him. And, since Blaine is a big boy, he can respond if he wishes, or not. Perry From: Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Hill Cumorah Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 12:57:12 -0400 Mr. Moderator: This is over the top and, not necessary. L - Original Message - From: Charles Perry Locke [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: June 13, 2005 23:26 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Hill Cumorah Do you think you Grandfather is a god now, with spirit wives, and possible the pitter-patter of little spirit feet? From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Hill Cumorah Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 19:15:05 EDT In a message dated 6/13/2005 2:09:44 PM Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I would think that we all choose to believe whatever based upon our view of the credibility of the truth source closest to us in terms of time and space.I mean, if Blaine was born a Mormon,' his first source of truth would be his parents. Who's he going to believe -- his parents or some guy standing cross the street waving underwear. And, by the time he gets to a free thinking age, he already has such a systematize faith that little will prevail against it.THAT'S NORMAL.Blaine may or not believe this -- but THANK GOD WE DO NOT HAVE TO BE RIGHT. JD Blaine: Good, JD. I agree parents are critical in what children end up believing. I am very fortunate to have had good advice and guidance from my mom and dad.My grandpa was also very influential, mostly by his example. He served two missions (LDS) to Norway, and another one to Spokane, Washington. He recorded many miraculous healings, casting out of devils, etc. in his writings. He was a Judge in regular life, and often required those he saw in court to go to church, the denomination being left to them. He was always in favor of religious training, regardless of the belief system. Any belief that advocates Christian values, he felt, was better than the value systems that got people into trouble with the law. Nevertheless, he lived and died by the LDS doctrines. -- Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man. (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed. -- Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man. (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed. -- Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man. (Colossians 4:6)
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Re: [TruthTalk] Hill Cumorah
I may be as informed on the Mormon 'faith' as yourself. Some years back I discovered myself to have known more concerning the LDS than the majority of those with whom I spoke. I do not think it necessary to profane what others deem sacred. Do you? - Original Message - From: Charles Perry Locke [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: June 14, 2005 13:41 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Hill Cumorah Lance, Thanks for your concern for Blaine and over the legitimacy and sensitivity of my line of questioning. My reason for asking that question is two-fold. One is to relate to the rest of the group what potentially awaits good mormon men who transition from men to gods and the women who may get chosen to be their eternal soirit wives. The second is to determine if Blaine has any insight or opinoin into his grandfather's current state. As for the pitter-patter of spirit feet, I thought that was a cute quip based on the parallel earthly phrase meaning the same thing when earthly human children are born. It is a common mormon belief that mormons can become gods after they die, have spirit wives, produce spirit babies, and populate a planet, just as their current god, originally from the planet Kolob, did with his spirit wives and this planet, Earth. I know several of his offspring...Satan, Jesus, Dave, and Blaine, to name a few. I do not think that a mormon would find this question offensive, no more so would any Christian of whom I askedof their deceased grandfatherr, was he a believer, implying all that we believe happens to a believer who dies. Besides, it is also possible that Blaine had heard from his grandfather from beyond the grave, as he did a great aunt, I believe it was, and knows the answer to these things. If he has received no message from his grandfather, then perhaps he has an opinion relative to that question. For example, if he knows that his grandfather performed all of the earthly works necessary to become a god, then he mey reply with certainty that he is in such a state, although he has not heard directly from him. And, since Blaine is a big boy, he can respond if he wishes, or not. Perry From: Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Hill Cumorah Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 12:57:12 -0400 Mr. Moderator: This is over the top and, not necessary. L - Original Message - From: Charles Perry Locke [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: June 13, 2005 23:26 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Hill Cumorah Do you think you Grandfather is a god now, with spirit wives, and possible the pitter-patter of little spirit feet? From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Hill Cumorah Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 19:15:05 EDT In a message dated 6/13/2005 2:09:44 PM Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I would think that we all choose to believe whatever based upon our view of the credibility of the truth source closest to us in terms of time and space.I mean, if Blaine was born a Mormon,' his first source of truth would be his parents. Who's he going to believe -- his parents or some guy standing cross the street waving underwear. And, by the time he gets to a free thinking age, he already has such a systematize faith that little will prevail against it.THAT'S NORMAL.Blaine may or not believe this -- but THANK GOD WE DO NOT HAVE TO BE RIGHT. JD Blaine: Good, JD. I agree parents are critical in what children end up believing. I am very fortunate to have had good advice and guidance from my mom and dad.My grandpa was also very influential, mostly by his example. He served two missions (LDS) to Norway, and another one to Spokane, Washington. He recorded many miraculous healings, casting out of devils, etc. in his writings. He was a Judge in regular life, and often required those he saw in court to go to church, the denomination being left to them. He was always in favor of religious training, regardless of the belief system. Any belief that advocates Christian values, he felt, was better than the value systems that got people into trouble with the law. Nevertheless, he lived and died by the LDS doctrines. -- Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man. (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be
Re: [TruthTalk] Hill Cumorah
It was and, is, Mr. Moderator, my suggestion that you 'moderate' yourself. My suggestion stands in spite of your less than adequate explanation. - Original Message - From: Charles Perry Locke [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: June 14, 2005 13:38 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Hill Cumorah Lance, Thanks for your concern for Blaine and over the legitimacy and sensitivity of my line of questioning. My reason for asking that question is two-fold. One is to relate to the rest of the group what potentially awaits good mormon men who transition from men to gods and the women who may get chosen to be their eternal soirit wives. The second is to determine if Blaine has any insight or opinoin into his grandfather's current state. As for the pitter-patter of spirit feet, I thought that was a cute quip based on the parallel earthly phrase meaning the same thing when earthly human children are born. It is a common mormon belief that mormons can become gods after they die, have spirit wives, produce spirit babies, and populate a planet, just as their current god, originally from the planet Kolob, did with his spirit wives and this planet, Earth. I know several of his offspring...Satan, Jesus, Dave, and Blaine, to name a few. I do not think that a mormon would find this question offensive, no more so would any Christian of whom I askedof their deceased grandfatherr, was he a believer, implying all that we believe happens to a believer who dies. Besides, it is also possible that Blaine had heard from his grandfather from beyond the grave, as he did a great aunt, I believe it was, and knows the answer to these things. If he has received no message from his grandfather, then perhaps he has an opinion relative to that question. For example, if he knows that his grandfather performed all of the earthly works necessary to become a god, then he mey reply with certainty that he is in such a state, although he has not heard directly from him. And, since Blaine is a big boy, he can respond if he wishes, or not. Perry From: Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Hill Cumorah Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 12:57:12 -0400 Mr. Moderator: This is over the top and, not necessary. L - Original Message - From: Charles Perry Locke [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: June 13, 2005 23:26 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Hill Cumorah Do you think you Grandfather is a god now, with spirit wives, and possible the pitter-patter of little spirit feet? From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Hill Cumorah Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 19:15:05 EDT In a message dated 6/13/2005 2:09:44 PM Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I would think that we all choose to believe whatever based upon our view of the credibility of the truth source closest to us in terms of time and space.I mean, if Blaine was born a Mormon,' his first source of truth would be his parents. Who's he going to believe -- his parents or some guy standing cross the street waving underwear. And, by the time he gets to a free thinking age, he already has such a systematize faith that little will prevail against it.THAT'S NORMAL.Blaine may or not believe this -- but THANK GOD WE DO NOT HAVE TO BE RIGHT. JD Blaine: Good, JD. I agree parents are critical in what children end up believing. I am very fortunate to have had good advice and guidance from my mom and dad.My grandpa was also very influential, mostly by his example. He served two missions (LDS) to Norway, and another one to Spokane, Washington. He recorded many miraculous healings, casting out of devils, etc. in his writings. He was a Judge in regular life, and often required those he saw in court to go to church, the denomination being left to them. He was always in favor of religious training, regardless of the belief system. Any belief that advocates Christian values, he felt, was better than the value systems that got people into trouble with the law. Nevertheless, he lived and died by the LDS doctrines. -- Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man. (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed. -- Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how
Re: [TruthTalk] Hill Cumorah
What is the example given in the scriptures? Do the apostles and prophets highly esteem and revere false and pagan religious systems fearing to profane them lest they hurt some feelings out there? What good does all your information do you Lance? On Tue, 14 Jun 2005 14:23:16 -0400 Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I may be as informed on the Mormon 'faith' as yourself. Some years back I discovered myself to have known more concerning the LDS than the majority of those with whom I spoke. I do not think it necessary to profane what others deem sacred. Do you? - Original Message - From: Charles Perry Locke [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: June 14, 2005 13:41 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Hill Cumorah Lance, Thanks for your concern for Blaine and over the legitimacy and sensitivity of my line of questioning. My reason for asking that question is two-fold. One is to relate to the rest of the group what potentially awaits good mormon men who transition from men to gods and the women who may get chosen to be their eternal soirit wives. The second is to determine if Blaine has any insight or opinoin into his grandfather's current state. As for the pitter-patter of spirit feet, I thought that was a cute quip based on the parallel earthly phrase meaning the same thing when earthly human children are born. It is a common mormon belief that mormons can become gods after they die, have spirit wives, produce spirit babies, and populate a planet, just as their current god, originally from the planet Kolob, did with his spirit wives and this planet, Earth. I know several of his offspring...Satan, Jesus, Dave, and Blaine, to name a few. I do not think that a mormon would find this question offensive, no more so would any Christian of whom I askedof their deceased grandfatherr, was he a believer, implying all that we believe happens to a believer who dies. Besides, it is also possible that Blaine had heard from his grandfather from beyond the grave, as he did a great aunt, I believe it was, and knows the answer to these things. If he has received no message from his grandfather, then perhaps he has an opinion relative to that question. For example, if he knows that his grandfather performed all of the earthly works necessary to become a god, then he mey reply with certainty that he is in such a state, although he has not heard directly from him. And, since Blaine is a big boy, he can respond if he wishes, or not. Perry From: Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Hill Cumorah Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 12:57:12 -0400 Mr. Moderator: This is over the top and, not necessary. L - Original Message - From: Charles Perry Locke [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: June 13, 2005 23:26 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Hill Cumorah Do you think you Grandfather is a god now, with spirit wives, and possible the pitter-patter of little spirit feet? From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Hill Cumorah Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 19:15:05 EDT In a message dated 6/13/2005 2:09:44 PM Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I would think that we all choose to believe whatever based upon our view of the credibility of the truth source closest to us in terms of time and space.I mean, if Blaine was born a Mormon,' his first source of truth would be his parents. Who's he going to believe -- his parents or some guy standing cross the street waving underwear. And, by the time he gets to a free thinking age, he already has such a systematize faith that little will prevail against it.THAT'S NORMAL. Blaine may or not believe this -- but THANK GOD WE DO NOT HAVE TO BE RIGHT. JD Blaine: Good, JD. I agree parents are critical in what children end up believing. I am very fortunate to have had good advice and guidance from my mom and dad.My grandpa was also very influential, mostly by his example. He served two missions (LDS) to Norway, and another one to Spokane, Washington. He recorded many miraculous healings, casting out of devils, etc. in his writings. He was a Judge in regular life, and often required those he saw in court to go to church, the denomination being left to them. He was always in favor of religious training, regardless of the belief system. Any belief that advocates Christian values, he felt, was better than
Re: [TruthTalk] Hill Cumorah
None that come to mind, Judy. What examples can you provide from life illustrating how you and your husband taught your children to be disrepectful, intentionally, to persons of a faith tradition other than your own. Additionally, would you do so now? - Original Message - From: Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: June 14, 2005 15:04 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Hill Cumorah What is the example given in the scriptures? Do the apostles and prophets highly esteem and revere false and pagan religious systems fearing to profane them lest they hurt some feelings out there? What good does all your information do you Lance? On Tue, 14 Jun 2005 14:23:16 -0400 Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I may be as informed on the Mormon 'faith' as yourself. Some years back I discovered myself to have known more concerning the LDS than the majority of those with whom I spoke. I do not think it necessary to profane what others deem sacred. Do you? - Original Message - From: Charles Perry Locke [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: June 14, 2005 13:41 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Hill Cumorah Lance, Thanks for your concern for Blaine and over the legitimacy and sensitivity of my line of questioning. My reason for asking that question is two-fold. One is to relate to the rest of the group what potentially awaits good mormon men who transition from men to gods and the women who may get chosen to be their eternal soirit wives. The second is to determine if Blaine has any insight or opinoin into his grandfather's current state. As for the pitter-patter of spirit feet, I thought that was a cute quip based on the parallel earthly phrase meaning the same thing when earthly human children are born. It is a common mormon belief that mormons can become gods after they die, have spirit wives, produce spirit babies, and populate a planet, just as their current god, originally from the planet Kolob, did with his spirit wives and this planet, Earth. I know several of his offspring...Satan, Jesus, Dave, and Blaine, to name a few. I do not think that a mormon would find this question offensive, no more so would any Christian of whom I askedof their deceased grandfatherr, was he a believer, implying all that we believe happens to a believer who dies. Besides, it is also possible that Blaine had heard from his grandfather from beyond the grave, as he did a great aunt, I believe it was, and knows the answer to these things. If he has received no message from his grandfather, then perhaps he has an opinion relative to that question. For example, if he knows that his grandfather performed all of the earthly works necessary to become a god, then he mey reply with certainty that he is in such a state, although he has not heard directly from him. And, since Blaine is a big boy, he can respond if he wishes, or not. Perry From: Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Hill Cumorah Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 12:57:12 -0400 Mr. Moderator: This is over the top and, not necessary. L - Original Message - From: Charles Perry Locke [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: June 13, 2005 23:26 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Hill Cumorah Do you think you Grandfather is a god now, with spirit wives, and possible the pitter-patter of little spirit feet? From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Hill Cumorah Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 19:15:05 EDT In a message dated 6/13/2005 2:09:44 PM Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I would think that we all choose to believe whatever based upon our view of the credibility of the truth source closest to us in terms of time and space.I mean, if Blaine was born a Mormon,' his first source of truth would be his parents. Who's he going to believe -- his parents or some guy standing cross the street waving underwear. And, by the time he gets to a free thinking age, he already has such a systematize faith that little will prevail against it.THAT'S NORMAL. Blaine may or not believe this -- but THANK GOD WE DO NOT HAVE TO BE RIGHT. JD Blaine: Good, JD. I agree parents are critical in what children end up believing. I am very fortunate to have had good advice and guidance from my mom and dad.My grandpa was
[TruthTalk] [Fwd: What Herb Thinks!]
Subject: What Herb Thinks! http://www.fulfilledprophecy.com/2010.html After you read this, tell me what you think. -- Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man. (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.
Re: [TruthTalk] NYTimes.com: Revisiting '64 Civil Rights Deaths, This Time in a
So what? !! That has nothing to do with what we did nothing. All such "logic" allows us to avoid the conviction we so deserve. JD-Original Message-From: Kevin Deegan openairmission@yahoo.comTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 10:11:08 -0700 (PDT)Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] NYTimes.com: Revisiting '64 Civil Rights Deaths, This Time in a Indians slaughtered Indians too!ShieldsFamily [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's a bit more complicated than that, JD. I don't believe in idolizing the American Indian, even though I'm a descendant of one. Izzy From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2005 1:36 PMTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: Re: [TruthTalk] NYTimes.com: Revisiting '64 Civil Rights Deaths, This Time in a A close #2 on the list of "we have rights and no one else does"and we kill to prove it. Jd-Original Message-From: Charles Perry Locke [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Sun, 12 Jun 2005 09:45:29 -0700Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] NYTimes.com: Revisiting '64 Civil Rights Deaths, This Time in a JD, how would you rank the way we treated the native americans compared to the blacks?From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Reply-To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: Re: [TruthTalk] NYTimes.com: Revisiting '64 Civil Rights Deaths, This Time in a Murder TrialDate: Sun, 12 Jun 2005 11:09:38 -0400Good post. The way we treated the blacks notso long ago is perhaps the most bing part of our history, as a nation -- and we have more than one sore spot.I saw it first hand when I went to seminary in Dallas (not Dallas Thological). the white church, the way the newspapers addressed black people (omitting "Mr." and "Mrs." ) and so on.Your exhumanist friendJD-Original Message-From: ShieldsFamily [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Sun, 12 Jun 2005 07:12:01 -0500Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] NYTimes.com: Revisiting '64 Civil Rights Deaths, This Time in a Murder TrialI remember spending two weeks in Selma Alabama the summer Rosa Parks refused to go to the back of the bus. At the time I didn't know anything about that, but I was shocked at the way "Negroes" (the proper term at the time) were treated there. I had never experienced anything like that. Separate water fountains and windows at the Dairy Queen; separate seating areas at the movie theatre. Prevailing superiority caste system by those in control (whites). I'm glad I saw it first hand. Centuries old bigotries and ways of living die hard. Changing mindsets and mores is like going through a birth process-very painful, but worthwhile in the long run. By the way, the blacks needed to change, too, as they had been pushed down for so long; they are still learning to be self-reliant and competitive in the marketplace. Living in the inner-city gives you plenty of experience with those who haven't made the shift yet. Entire ethnic groups don't change in one generation; black or white. "The Secret Life of Bees" by Sue Monk Kidd was a cute, touching novel which addressed the southern race issue. IzzyFrom: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2005 3:55 AMTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: Re: [TruthTalk] NYTimes.com: Revisiting '64 Civil Rights Deaths, This Time in a Murder TrialWell, actually, I did not send THIS page. I thought I was sending the NY Times article, itself. Once again, the NY Times has failed us. Sorry guys. The movie was called "Mississippi Burning" with Gene Hackman and William Defoe. Excellent. It makes me angry everytime I see it. I was 19 when these three young men (my age) were murdered by the original one-toothers there in Mississippi.Anyway -- I read the Times each morning and thought this would be a simple matter in regard to emailing.JD-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Sun, 12 Jun 2005 04:40:21 -0500Subject: [TruthTalk] NYTimes.com: Revisiting '64 Civil Rights Deaths, This Time in a Murder TrialThis page was sent to you by: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Message from sender:I was given custody of my boys in 1988. They were 12 and 9 at the time. I purchased the movie of this sad event and used it to "brain wash" the boys against this sort of thing and the very ignorant poeple who commit to such bigoted actions. JDNATIONAL | June 12, 2005Revisiting '64 Civil Rights Deaths, This Time in a Murder TrialBy SHAILA DEWANEdgar Ray Killen, 80, will stand trial for murder in the killings of James Earl Chaney, Andrew Goodman and Michael H. Schwerner in Mississippi in 1964.1. Grisly Effect of One Drug: 'Meth Mouth'2. Skin Deep: Psst! This Stuff Keeps You Young, but It's Illegal3. Op-Ed Columnist: Losing Our Country4. Editorial: Zealots at the Air Force Academy5. Op-Ed Columnist: Behind Every Grad...» Go to Complete ListAdvertisement/- E-mail Sponsored by Fox Searchlight Pictures
Re: [TruthTalk] Hill Cumorah
Paul speaking to the church about other religious beliefs is NOT the example you should be turning to. Paul in Athens is. JD-Original Message-From: Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgCc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 15:04:07 -0400Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Hill Cumorah What is the example given in the scriptures? Do the apostles and prophets highly esteem and revere false and pagan religious systems fearing to profane them lest they hurt some feelings out there? What good does all your information do you Lance? On Tue, 14 Jun 2005 14:23:16 -0400 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I may be as informed on the Mormon 'faith' as yourself. Some years back I discovered myself to have known more concerning the LDS than the majority of those with whom I spoke. I do not think it necessary to profane what others deem sacred. Do you? - Original Message - From: "Charles Perry Locke" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: June 14, 2005 13:41 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Hill Cumorah Lance, Thanks for your concern for Blaine and over the legitimacy and sensitivity of my line of questioning. My reason for asking that question is two-fold. One is to relate to the rest of the group what potentially awaits good mormon men who transition from men to gods and the women who may get chosen to be their eternal soirit wives. The second is to determine if Blaine has any insight or opinoin into his grandfather's current state. As for the "pitter-patter" of spirit feet, I thought that was a cute quip based on the parallel earthly phrase meaning the same thing when earthly human children are born. It is a common mormon belief that mormons can become gods after they die, have spirit wives, produce spirit babies, and populate a planet, just as their current god, originally from the planet Kolob, did with his spirit wives and this planet, Earth. I know several of his offspring...Satan, Jesus, Dave, and Blaine, to name a few. I do not think that a mormon would find this question offensive, no more so would any Christian of whom I askedof their deceased grandfatherr, "was he a believer", implying all that we believe happens to a believer who dies. Besides, it is also possible that Blaine had heard from his grandfather from beyond the grave, as he did a great aunt, I believe it was, and knows the answer to these things. If he has received no message from his grandfather, then perhaps he has an opinion relative to that question. For example, if he knows that his grandfather performed all of the earthly works necessary to become a god, then he mey reply with certainty that he is in such a state, although he has not heard directly from him. And, since Blaine is a big boy, he can respond if he wishes, or not. Perry From: "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Hill Cumorah Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 12:57:12 -0400 Mr. Moderator: This is over the top and, not necessary. L - Original Message - From: "Charles Perry Locke" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: June 13, 2005 23:26 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Hill Cumorah Do you think you Grandfather is a god now, with spirit wives, and possible the pitter-patter of little spirit feet? From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Hill Cumorah Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 19:15:05 EDT In a message dated 6/13/2005 2:09:44 PM Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I would think that we all choose to believe whatever based upon our view of the credibility of the "truth source" closest to us in terms of time and space.I mean, if Blaine was "born a Mormon,' his first source of "truth" would be his parents. Who's he going to believe -- his parents or some guy standing cross the street waving underwear. And, by the time he gets to a free thinking age, he already has such a systematize faith that little will prevail against it.THAT'S NORMAL. Blaine may or not believe this -- but THANK GOD WE DO NOT HAVE TO BE RIGHT. JD Blaine: Good, JD. I agree parents are critical in what children end up believing. I am very fortunate to have had good advice and guidance from my mom and dad.My grandpa was also very influential, mostly by his example. He served two missions (LDS) to Norway, and another one to Spokane, Washington. He recorded many miraculous healings, casting out of devils, etc.
RE: [TruthTalk] Transitional Considerations and the Gospel.
And to whom were you preaching? Yourself? Izzy From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] That was the attitude I had in mind when I included the fatherless and widows. JD
RE: [TruthTalk] Hill Cumorah
Oh, good grief! What is this, Political Correctness 101? I could throw up. Hey Blaine are you beliefs profaned by the pitter patter of little feeties??? Or should our little feeties pitter patter around your sensitivities? Izzy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 12:23 PM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Hill Cumorah I may be as informed on the Mormon 'faith' as yourself. Some years back I discovered myself to have known more concerning the LDS than the majority of those with whom I spoke. I do not think it necessary to profane what others deem sacred. Do you? - Original Message - From: Charles Perry Locke [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: June 14, 2005 13:41 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Hill Cumorah Lance, Thanks for your concern for Blaine and over the legitimacy and sensitivity of my line of questioning. My reason for asking that question is two-fold. One is to relate to the rest of the group what potentially awaits good mormon men who transition from men to gods and the women who may get chosen to be their eternal soirit wives. The second is to determine if Blaine has any insight or opinoin into his grandfather's current state. As for the pitter-patter of spirit feet, I thought that was a cute quip based on the parallel earthly phrase meaning the same thing when earthly human children are born. It is a common mormon belief that mormons can become gods after they die, have spirit wives, produce spirit babies, and populate a planet, just as their current god, originally from the planet Kolob, did with his spirit wives and this planet, Earth. I know several of his offspring...Satan, Jesus, Dave, and Blaine, to name a few. I do not think that a mormon would find this question offensive, no more so would any Christian of whom I askedof their deceased grandfatherr, was he a believer, implying all that we believe happens to a believer who dies. Besides, it is also possible that Blaine had heard from his grandfather from beyond the grave, as he did a great aunt, I believe it was, and knows the answer to these things. If he has received no message from his grandfather, then perhaps he has an opinion relative to that question. For example, if he knows that his grandfather performed all of the earthly works necessary to become a god, then he mey reply with certainty that he is in such a state, although he has not heard directly from him. And, since Blaine is a big boy, he can respond if he wishes, or not. Perry From: Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Hill Cumorah Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 12:57:12 -0400 Mr. Moderator: This is over the top and, not necessary. L - Original Message - From: Charles Perry Locke [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: June 13, 2005 23:26 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Hill Cumorah Do you think you Grandfather is a god now, with spirit wives, and possible the pitter-patter of little spirit feet? From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Hill Cumorah Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 19:15:05 EDT In a message dated 6/13/2005 2:09:44 PM Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I would think that we all choose to believe whatever based upon our view of the credibility of the truth source closest to us in terms of time and space.I mean, if Blaine was born a Mormon,' his first source of truth would be his parents. Who's he going to believe -- his parents or some guy standing cross the street waving underwear. And, by the time he gets to a free thinking age, he already has such a systematize faith that little will prevail against it.THAT'S NORMAL.Blaine may or not believe this -- but THANK GOD WE DO NOT HAVE TO BE RIGHT. JD Blaine: Good, JD. I agree parents are critical in what children end up believing. I am very fortunate to have had good advice and guidance from my mom and dad.My grandpa was also very influential, mostly by his example. He served two missions (LDS) to Norway, and another one to Spokane, Washington. He recorded many miraculous healings, casting out of devils, etc. in his writings. He was a Judge in regular life, and often required those he saw in court to go to church, the denomination being left to them. He was always in favor of religious training, regardless of the belief system. Any belief that advocates Christian values, he felt, was better than the value systems that got people into trouble with the law. Nevertheless, he lived and died by
Re: [TruthTalk] Hill Cumorah
ShieldsFamily wrote: Oh, good grief! What is this, Political Correctness 101? I could throw up. Hey Blaine are you beliefs profaned by the pitter patter of little feeties??? Or should our little feeties pitter patter around your sensitivities? Izzy == What would Judith do ? -- Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man. (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.
[TruthTalk] Queer Parade in Philly
http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=44753 'Gay pride' features simulated sex, attacking 'mob' Philadelphia Christians in another confrontation with 'militants' -- Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man. (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.
Re: [TruthTalk] Transitional Considerations and the Gospel.
You might try actually reading my post. It's in there. JD-Original Message-From: ShieldsFamily [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 16:17:45 -0500Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Transitional Considerations and the Gospel. And to whom were you preaching? Yourself? Izzy From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] That was the attitude I had in mind when I included the fatherless and widows. JD
