What is the example given in the scriptures?  Do the apostles and
prophets highly
esteem and revere false and pagan religious systems fearing to profane
them lest they
hurt some feelings out there?  What good does all your information do you
Lance?


On Tue, 14 Jun 2005 14:23:16 -0400 "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
writes:
> I may be as informed on the Mormon 'faith' as yourself. Some years 
> back I
> discovered myself to have known more concerning the LDS than the 
> majority of
> those with whom I spoke. I do not think it necessary to profane what 
> others
> deem sacred. Do you?
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Charles Perry Locke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: June 14, 2005 13:41
> Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Hill Cumorah
> 
> 
> > Lance,
> >
> >    Thanks for your concern for Blaine and over the legitimacy and
> > sensitivity of my line of questioning. My reason for asking that 
> question
> is
> > two-fold. One is to relate to the rest of the group what 
> potentially
> awaits
> > good mormon men who transition from men to gods and the women who 
> may get
> > chosen to be their eternal soirit wives. The second is to 
> determine if
> > Blaine has any insight or opinoin into his grandfather's current 
> state. As
> > for the "pitter-patter" of spirit feet, I thought that was a cute 
> quip
> based
> > on the parallel earthly phrase meaning the same thing when earthly 
> human
> > children are born.
> >
> >    It is a common mormon belief that mormons can become gods after 
> they
> die,
> > have spirit wives, produce spirit babies, and populate a planet, 
> just as
> > their current god, originally from the planet Kolob, did with his 
> spirit
> > wives and this planet, Earth. I know several of his 
> offspring...Satan,
> > Jesus, Dave, and Blaine, to name a few. I do not think that a 
> mormon would
> > find this question offensive, no more so would any Christian of 
> whom I
> > askedof their deceased grandfatherr, "was he a believer", implying 
> all
> that
> > we believe happens to a believer who dies. Besides, it is also 
> possible
> that
> > Blaine had heard from his grandfather from beyond the grave, as he 
> did a
> > great aunt, I believe it was, and knows the answer to these things. 
> If he
> > has received no message from his grandfather, then perhaps he has 
> an
> opinion
> > relative to that question. For example, if he knows that his 
> grandfather
> > performed all of the earthly works necessary to become a god, then 
> he mey
> > reply with certainty that he is in such a state, although he has 
> not heard
> > directly from him. And, since Blaine is a big boy, he can respond 
> if he
> > wishes, or not.
> >
> > Perry
> >
> >
> > >From: "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >Reply-To: [email protected]
> > >To: <[email protected]>
> > >Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Hill Cumorah
> > >Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 12:57:12 -0400
> > >
> > >Mr. Moderator: This is over the top and, not necessary.
> > >
> > >L
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: "Charles Perry Locke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >To: <[email protected]>
> > >Sent: June 13, 2005 23:26
> > >Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Hill Cumorah
> > >
> > >
> > > > Do you think you Grandfather is a god now, with spirit wives, 
> and
> > >possible
> > > > the pitter-patter of little spirit feet?
> > > >
> > > > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > >Reply-To: [email protected]
> > > > >To: [email protected]
> > > > >Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Hill Cumorah
> > > > >Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 19:15:05 EDT
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >In a message dated 6/13/2005 2:09:44 PM Mountain Standard 
> Time,
> > > > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> > > > >
> > > > > >I  would think that we all choose to believe whatever based 
> upon
> our
> > >view
> > > > >of
> > > > >
> > > > > >the credibility of the "truth source" closest to us in 
> terms of
> time
> > >and
> > > > > >space.    I mean, if Blaine was "born a  Mormon,'  his 
> first source
> > >of
> > > > > >"truth" would be his parents.   Who's he going to believe  
> --  his
> > > > >parents
> > > > > >or some guy  standing cross the street waving underwear.  
> And, by
> the
> > > > >time
> > > > > >he gets to a free thinking age,  he already has such a  
> systematize
> > >faith
> > > > > >that little will prevail against it.    THAT'S NORMAL.    
> Blaine
> may
> > >or
> > > > >not
> > > > > >believe this -- but  --------------------    THANK GOD WE 
> DO NOT
> HAVE
> > >TO
> > > > >BE
> > > > > >RIGHT.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >JD
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >Blaine:  Good, JD.  I agree parents are critical in what  
> children
> end
> > >up
> > > > >believing. I am very fortunate to have had good advice and  
> guidance
> > >from
> > > > >my mom
> > > > >and dad.    My grandpa was also very  influential, mostly by 
> his
> > >example.
> > > > >He
> > > > >served two missions (LDS) to  Norway, and another one to 
> Spokane,
> > > > >Washington.
> > > > >He recorded many  miraculous healings, casting out of devils, 
> etc. in
> > >his
> > > > >writings.  He was a  Judge in regular life, and often 
> required those
> he
> > >saw
> > > > >in
> > > > >court to go to church,  the denomination being left to them.  
> He was
> > >always
> > > > >in
> > > > >favor of religious  training, regardless of the belief 
> system.  Any
> > >belief
> > > > >that
> > > > >advocates  Christian values, he felt, was better than the 
> value
> systems
> > > > >that
> > > > >got people  into trouble with the law.  Nevertheless, he 
> lived and
> died
> > >by
> > > > >the
> > > > >LDS  doctrines.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ----------
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> that you
> may
> > >know how you ought to answer every man."  (Colossians 4:6)
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