[TruthTalk] Depraved minds

2003-02-09 Thread ShieldsFamily











how long one can be under conviction and refuse to repent
without God writing that person off Thats the Big Question!!! (I can think
of a few that I wish He would have zapped a long time ago!) 



What happens when God writes them off? Does He
kill them, or just let them run around making other people unhappy for the rest
of their natural lives?



Heres another question: When God turns someone over
to a reprobate mind, is there still a chance for them to repent? Could it be a
way of trying to get them to repent, by experiencing the full judgment of their
depravity?



A related question is this: Does God bring the lost under
judgment (ie: experiencing the penalty of their rebellion in order to try to
get them to repent), or just Believers? 



Heres another: Have you ever experienced Gods
judgment? If so, how did you know it was His judgment? How did you repent? Were
you glad it happened afterwards?



Izzy



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I am not certain just what you are
asking. There is a time that God turns some over to a reprobate mind, and
there is a time for some to fall from grace, but God's desire is for us to
finish the race, endure to the end. As to how long one can be under
conviction and refuse to repent without God writing that person off, I have no
idea, but I suspect that He is farmore patient than me.











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Re: [TruthTalk] Depraved minds

2003-02-09 Thread CHamm56114
If they are under conviction then they are still being drawn by the Holy Spirit. As long as the HS is drawing them then God hasn't written them off. Laura
how long one can be under conviction and refuse to repent without God writing that person off That’s the Big Question!!! (I can think of a few that I wish He would have zapped a long time ago!) 

 

What happens when God “writes them off”? Does He kill them, or just let them run around making other people unhappy for the rest of their natural lives?

 

Here’s another question: When God turns someone over to a reprobate mind, is there still a chance for them to repent? Could it be a way of trying to get them to repent, by experiencing the full judgment of their depravity?

 

A related question is this: Does God bring the lost under judgment (ie: experiencing the penalty of their rebellion in order to try to get them to repent), or just Believers? 

 

Here’s another: Have you ever experienced God’s judgment? If so, how did you know it was His judgment? How did you repent? Were you glad it happened afterwards?

 

Izzy





RE: [TruthTalk] Depraved minds

2003-02-09 Thread ShieldsFamily








That wasnt his question. He wants
to know how long before God does write them off? Izzy



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If they are under conviction then
they are still being drawn by the Holy Spirit. As long as the HS is
drawing them then God hasn't written them off. Laura



how
long one can be under conviction and refuse to repent without God writing that
person off Thats the Big
Question!!! (I can think of a few that I wish He would have zapped a long time
ago!) 



What happens when God writes them off? Does He kill them, or just let them
run around making other people unhappy for the rest of their natural lives?

 

Heres another question: When God turns someone over to a reprobate mind, is
there still a chance for them to repent? Could it be a way of trying to get
them to repent, by experiencing the full judgment of their depravity?

 

A related question is this: Does God bring the lost under judgment (ie:
experiencing the penalty of their rebellion in order to try to get them to
repent), or just Believers? 



Heres another: Have you ever experienced Gods judgment? If so, how did you
know it was His judgment? How did you repent? Were you glad it happened
afterwards?

 

Izzy












Re: [TruthTalk] Depraved minds

2003-02-09 Thread Terry Clifton









how long one can be under conviction and refuse to repent without God writing that person off That’s the Big Question!!! (I can think of a few that I wish He would have zapped a long time ago!) 

What happens when God “writes them off”? Does He kill them, or just let them run around making other people unhappy for the rest of their natural lives? Possibly both. I know of one pastor who simply said "I cannot believe this any more and walked off the Job". Last I heard, he was still alive.

Here’s another question: When God turns someone over to a reprobate mind, is there still a chance for them to repent? Could it be a way of trying to get them to repent, by experiencing the full judgment of their depravity? Just do not know. If I ever had the answer, I have forgotten it. I would assume that when you become reprobate, you no longer yearn for spiritual things or relationships, and are given over to your lusts.

A related question is this: Does God bring the lost under judgment (ie: experiencing the penalty of their rebellion in order to try to get them to repent), or just Believers? The prisons are full of people who will testify to exactly that. I taught the Gospel of John at a local prison, and heard several men testify that it was God's love for them that caused them to be caught and punished, and they praised HIm for doing it.

Here’s another: Have you ever experienced God’s judgment? If so, how did you know it was His judgment? How did you repent? Were you glad it happened afterwards? Again, I am not sure. I am not the sharpest knife in the drawer when it comes to picking up hints or clues, so God could give me the flu or a broken leg to tell me something, and unless the Holy Spirit spelled it out on the bathroom mirror while I was shaving, I probably would not get the message. I believe that the younger generation calls this "clueless".
Terry

Izzy

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I am not certain just what you are asking. There is a time that God turns some over to a reprobate mind, and there is a time for some to fall from grace, but God's desire is for us to finish the race, endure to the end. As to how long one can be under conviction and refuse to repent without God writing that person off, I have no idea, but I suspect that He is farmore patient than me.



Terry





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Terry, re: 'under Grace', below, is grace[a] category on a timeline? 








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