[TruthTalk] God's Covenant with Abram for the Promised Land
Genesis 13:14-15 (14) And the LORD said unto Abram, after that Lot was separated from him, Lift up now thine eyes, and look from the place where thou art northward, and southward, and eastward, and westward: (15) For all the land which thou seest, to thee will I give it, and to thy seed for ever. The lands where Abram lived is the land of Canaan, called Israel today. That, then, is the Promised Land?that is why it is called the Promised Land! But for how long? Forever! The inheritance is to be an eternal inheritance, which of necessity involves and includes everlasting life! If one inherits a piece of land, the deed must describe the exact boundaries of the property. Is such a description given in this deed of the land we may hope to inherit? The answer is found in Genesis 15:18, "In the same day the LORD made a covenant with Abram, saying, Unto thy seed have I given this land, from the river of Egypt unto the great river, the river Euphrates." From the Nile River in Egypt, to the Euphrates in the Near East! We have all seen enough maps to know where that is, and I am sure we all know it is not up in heaven somewhere, but right here on this earth. "And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise" (Galatians 3:29); and the promise?the promise of eternal inheritance?is the land of Israel, from the Nile clear to the Euphrates, here on this earth! God help us to put our trust in the sure Word of God, not in the fables of men! Other scriptures show that the territory of Christ's Kingdom is to expand and spread until ultimately it shall include the whole earth. See Romans 4:13.[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: First , I am not a dispensationalist -- never have been and very likely never will be. It is an American theological invention. a man named Darby being its first major proponent, and Scolfield along with Dallas Theological Seminary being the back bone of its critical acclaim. Secondly, an unregenerated Jew is no different than an unregenerated Floridian. I give no honor to any race of people for the simple reason that such was never the intention of God -- never. Jews get no credit from me for the Messiah -- they rejected Him then, killed him, came into the church thinking that the Church was to play a role in establishing them as the Kingdom of God upon this earth -and left the church almost to the man in the years following the fall of their holy city. There is more blasphemy on Jewish sites than perhaps the sites of any other world religion. That God is going to reestablish the Jewish people outside the blessings of the Church of Jesus Christ is simply not a biblical conclusion. And the main point , for me, that you skim over, is the fact that I do not hate the Jew. Israel was created by agreements of the young United Nations. Their new land was nothing like what it is today. And the hatred of Palestinians goes beyond that which is reasonable or even human, at times. The surrounding Muslim/Arab world's determination to destroy Isreal without the possibility of compromise is disgustingly stupid to me Where, at one time, I had some regard for the Muslim religion , today, I have none. I think it is violent at its core, a faith built upon a hatred for all who are not Muslim. But I have little regard for Judaism, as well. A very materialistic people, fully antagonistic to the Living Christ in terms of matters offaith and practice. Biblically speaking, Judaism reached full term in Jesus Christ. It is not asister religion. Where some consider the Old Testament as the history of the Jewish people, I really view it as the history of the Church. God's chosen are to be found within the body of Christ. jd -- Original message -- From: "ShieldsFamily" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jd, there are not yet many Jews who know their Messiah, as you know. Soon there will be. What bewilders me is why you rarely miss a chance to take a shot at Jews, yet not the mormons or the RCC who are true apostates. They claim to serve Jesus and yet are anti-Christs preaching a different Jesus and a different gospel. The Jews at least are honest about their stance on Jesus. I have a special place in my heart for Jews because my Savior is a Jew, because the Father says they are His chosen people, and because one day Jesus will again restore Israel into His kingdom. Why
Re: [TruthTalk] God's Covenant with Abram for the Promised Land
preaching a different Jesus and a different gospel. The Jews at least are honest about their stance on Jesus. I have a special place in my heart for Jews because my Savior is a Jew, because the Father says they are His chosen people, and because one day Jesus will again restore Israel into His kingdom. Why doesnt that have any meaning for you? izzy From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 4:23 PM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin: Purim 2006-Not All Authority is Bad Here is what I said, Linda.: Do you know of any orthodox Jews who do not deny the Christ? And why does that not have any meaning to you?I will give my money to the needy, thank you very much. There in not one hateful word in that comment -- not one. You can choose to continue to run your mouth or maybe, just maybe, you can stop with your dedicated effort to make me look as bad as possible and actually answer the above question. I am for US aid to Israel. I am not for spending one penny from church coffers. but go ahead and blast the RCC or those on this forum who are dedicated followers of Christ and kiss up to those who deny the Lord you claim to serve. I expect such conduct from you. jd Yahoo! Mail Bring photos to life! New PhotoMail makes sharing a breeze. From: Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org CC:TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject:[TruthTalk] God's Covenant with Abram for the Promised Land Date:Tue, 21 Mar 2006 12:33:03 + __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man. (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.
Re: [TruthTalk] God's Covenant with Abram for the Promised Land
, yet not the mormons or the RCC who are true apostates. They claim to serve Jesus and yet are anti-Christs preaching a different Jesus and a different gospel. The Jews at least are honest about their stance on Jesus. I have a special place in my heart for Jews because my Savior is a Jew, because the Father says they are His chosen people, and because one day Jesus will again restore Israel into His kingdom. Why doesnt that have any meaning for you? izzy From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 4:23 PM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin: Purim 2006-Not All Authority is Bad Here is what I said, Linda.: Do you know of any orthodox Jews who do not deny the Christ? And why does that not have any meaning to you?I will give my money to the needy, thank you very much. There in not one hateful word in that comment -- not one. You can choose to continue to run your mouth or maybe, just maybe, you can stop with your dedicated effort to make me look as bad as possible and actually answer the above question. I am for US aid to Israel. I am not for spending one penny from church coffers. but go ahead and blast the RCC or those on this forum who are dedicated followers of Christ and kiss up to those who deny the Lord you claim to serve. I expect such conduct from you. jd Yahoo! Mail Bring photos to life! New PhotoMail makes sharing a breeze. From: Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org CC:TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject:[TruthTalk] God's Covenant with Abram for the Promised Land Date:Tue, 21 Mar 2006 12:33:03 + __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man. (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.