[TruthTalk] God's Covenant with Abram for the Promised Land

2006-03-21 Thread Judy Taylor





  
  


  Genesis 
  13:14-15

  
  


  
(14) And the LORD said unto Abram, after that Lot was separated from 
him, Lift up now thine eyes, and look from the place where thou art 
northward, and southward, and eastward, and westward: (15) For all the 
land which thou seest, to thee will I give it, and to thy seed for ever. 

  


  
  


  
  The lands where Abram lived is the land of Canaan, called 
  Israel today. That, then, is the Promised Land?that is why it is called 
  the Promised Land! 
  But for how long? Forever! The inheritance is to be an 
  eternal inheritance, which of necessity involves and includes everlasting 
  life! 
  If one inherits a piece of land, the deed must describe the 
  exact boundaries of the property. Is such a description given in this deed 
  of the land we may hope to inherit? The answer is found in Genesis 15:18, "In the same day the LORD made a covenant with Abram, saying, Unto thy seed have 
  I given this land, from the river of Egypt unto the great river, the river 
  Euphrates." From the Nile River in Egypt, to the Euphrates in the Near 
  East! 
  We have all seen enough maps to know where that is, and I am 
  sure we all know it is not up in heaven somewhere, but right here on this 
  earth. "And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs 
  according to the promise" (Galatians 3:29); and the promise?the promise of 
  eternal inheritance?is the land of Israel, from the Nile clear to the 
  Euphrates, here on this earth! God help us to put our trust in the sure 
  Word of God, not in the fables of men! 
  Other scriptures show that the territory of Christ's Kingdom 
  is to expand and spread until ultimately it shall include the whole earth. 
  See Romans 
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wrote: 

  
First , I am not a dispensationalist -- never 
have been and very likely never will be. It is an American 
theological invention. a man named Darby being its first major 
proponent, and Scolfield along with Dallas Theological Seminary being 
the back bone of its critical acclaim.

Secondly, an unregenerated Jew is no different than an 
unregenerated Floridian. 
I give no honor to any race of people for the simple reason that such 
was never the intention of God -- never. Jews get no 
credit from me for the Messiah -- they rejected Him then, killed 
him, came into the church thinking that the Church was to play a role 
in establishing them as the Kingdom of God upon this earth -and 
left the church almost to the man in the years following the fall of 
their holy city. There is more blasphemy on Jewish sites than 
perhaps the sites of any other world religion. 

That God is going to reestablish the Jewish people outside the 
blessings of the Church of Jesus Christ is simply not a biblical 
conclusion. 

And the main point , for me, that you skim over, is the fact that I do 
not hate the Jew. Israel was created by agreements of the young 
United Nations. Their new land was nothing like what it is 
today. And the hatred of Palestinians goes beyond that which is 
reasonable or even human, at times. The surrounding Muslim/Arab 
world's determination to destroy Isreal without the possibility of 
compromise is disgustingly stupid to me Where, at one 
time, I had some regard for the Muslim religion , today, I 
have none. I think it is violent at its core, a faith 
built upon a hatred for all who are not Muslim.

But I have little regard for Judaism, as well. A very 
materialistic people, fully antagonistic to the Living Christ in 
terms of matters offaith and practice. 
Biblically speaking, Judaism reached full term in 
Jesus Christ. It is not asister religion. Where some 
consider the Old Testament as the history of the Jewish people, 
I really view it as the history of the Church.  God's chosen are 
to be found within the body of Christ. 

jd

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  Jd, there are not 
  yet many Jews who know their Messiah, as you know. Soon there will 
  be. What bewilders me is why you rarely miss a chance to take a shot 
  at Jews, yet not the mormons or the RCC who are true apostates. They 
  claim to serve Jesus and yet are anti-Christs preaching a different Jesus 
  and a different gospel. The Jews at least are honest about their 
  stance on Jesus. I have a special place in my heart for Jews because 
  my Savior is a Jew, because the Father says they are His chosen people, 
  and because one day Jesus will again restore Israel 
  into His kingdom. Why 

Re: [TruthTalk] God's Covenant with Abram for the Promised Land

2006-03-21 Thread Kevin Deegan
 preaching a different Jesus and a different gospel.  The Jews at
 least are honest about their stance on Jesus.  I have a special place
 in my heart for Jews because my Savior is a Jew, because the Father
 says they are His chosen people, and because one day Jesus will again
 restore Israel into His kingdom.  Why doesn’t that have any meaning
 for you? izzy
  
 
 
 
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 Here is what I said, Linda.:  Do you know of any orthodox Jews who
 do not deny the Christ?  And why does that not have any meaning to
 you?I will give my money to the needy, thank you very much.   
 There in not one hateful word in that comment  --  not one.  
  
 You can choose to continue to run your mouth or maybe, just maybe, 
 you can stop with your dedicated effort to make me look as bad as
 possible and actually answer the above question.   
  
 I am for US aid to Israel.   I am not for spending one penny from
 church coffers.  but go ahead and blast the RCC or those on this
 forum who are dedicated followers of Christ and kiss up to those who
 deny the Lord you claim to serve.  
 I expect such conduct from you.  
  
 jd
  
  
  
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [TruthTalk] God's Covenant with Abram for the Promised Land

2006-03-21 Thread Kevin Deegan
, yet not the mormons or the RCC who are
 true apostates.  They claim to serve Jesus and yet are anti-Christs
 preaching a different Jesus and a different gospel.  The Jews at
 least are honest about their stance on Jesus.  I have a special place
 in my heart for Jews because my Savior is a Jew, because the Father
 says they are His chosen people, and because one day Jesus will again
 restore Israel into His kingdom.  Why doesn’t that have any meaning
 for you? izzy
  
 
 
 
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 Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 4:23 PM
 To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
 Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin:
 Purim 2006-Not All Authority is Bad
  
 Here is what I said, Linda.:  Do you know of any orthodox Jews who
 do not deny the Christ?  And why does that not have any meaning to
 you?I will give my money to the needy, thank you very much.   
 There in not one hateful word in that comment  --  not one.  
  
 You can choose to continue to run your mouth or maybe, just maybe, 
 you can stop with your dedicated effort to make me look as bad as
 possible and actually answer the above question.   
  
 I am for US aid to Israel.   I am not for spending one penny from
 church coffers.  but go ahead and blast the RCC or those on this
 forum who are dedicated followers of Christ and kiss up to those who
 deny the Lord you claim to serve.  
 I expect such conduct from you.  
  
 jd
  
  
  
 
 
 
 
 
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