Re: [TruthTalk] Free will and the preservation of Scripture
Blainer) The BoM tells us that after the Bible had gone through the hands of the great and abominable church, it had been significantly altered. Nothing is said against the original writers of the Bible. They were clearly righteous men. On Sat, 12 Oct 2002 08:18:37 EDT [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In a message dated 10/12/2002 1:00:33 AM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The BoM is such a compensation. It brings truth and light that was lost to the world through the careless acts of unrighteous men. Are you saying that Joseph Smith was a righteous man and that men like Paul, Timothy, John, Mark, Moses etc are not?You say that the truth of the Bible was lost to the world: Please elaborate! You are saying that the Bible was altered in it's translation? Have you lost your mind completely? Laura -- Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man. (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.
Re: [TruthTalk] Free will and the preservation of Scripture
Blainer) Mormonism is not divided. There were only about 130 splinter groups.None of them prospered. (Only a few left today) You call that divided? (:) The Church of Jesus Christ of LDS is the only one that gets up early in the morning feeling excited about the day ahead and the many opportunities to dispel darkness in the world. Its like when you are going on vacation the next day, you can hardly wait for the dawn. Or like when you were little, and you went to bed X-mas eve, and could hardly wait to get up the next day to see what Santa Claus brought you. That's how excited Mormons get about missionary work. Glenn, old pal, you need to get with the program. You'd be so happy as a Mormon. (:) On Mon, 14 Oct 2002 16:03:48 EDT [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: BLAINER, ARE YOU ADMITTING MORMONISM IS DIVIDED YET? IF NOT, YOUR WORD IS WORTHLESS. -- Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man. (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.
Re: [TruthTalk] Free will and the preservation of Scripture
Dear Blainer, you are a liar. Your definition of division is a lie hatched out of hell fire itself. I cannot believe anything liars say. Therefore anything you say in your posts to TT cannot be believed. If you tell the truth it will only be to mix a lie in with it. I am repeating again. By your "hatched out of hell fire lie definition of division" THERE IS NOT DIVISION IN CHRISTIANITY!!! NONE! ZERO ZILCH The Free Methodist Church is not divided. The Evangelical Methodist is not divided. The Church of the Nazarene is not divided. The Church of Jesus Christ of Ladder Day in for hell is not divided. Christianity is not divided 666 Blainer) Mormonism is not divided. There were only about 130 splinter groups. None of them prospered. (Only a few left today) You call that divided? (:) The Church of Jesus Christ of LDS is the only one that gets up early in the morning feeling excited about the day ahead and the many opportunities to dispel darkness in the world. Its like when you are going on vacation the next day, you can hardly wait for the dawn. Or like when you were little, and you went to bed X-mas eve, and could hardly wait to get up the next day to see what Santa Claus brought you. That's how excited Mormons get about missionary work. Glenn, old pal, you need to get with the program. You'd be so happy as a Mormon. (:) Glenn - I just talked to a homosexual who is happy to be a homesexual too
Re: [TruthTalk] Free will and the preservation of Scripture
Blainer wrote: To argue that the Bible in its present form is as God intended it to be is a misnomer. Why? Are you sure you are using the right word when you say misnomer? Blainer wrote: The men who had charge of the bible were often unrighteous men. So? Blainer wrote: God has always worked through righteous men, and often has had to use righteous men to compensate for what unrighteous men have lost or destroyed. God also has worked through unrighteous men. For example, men like Nebachadnezzar, Cyrus, Balaam, just to name a few. Also, the Scriptures which existed in Jesus day also had been in the keeping of unrighteous men. For example, Jesus said that the father of these men who kept the Scriptures was Satan. Yet that did not stop Jesus from affirming the reliability of Scripture, and saying, The Scripture cannot be broken. Jesus also quoted from these Scriptures to explain his own actions. Apparently, Jesus Christ and Joseph Smith sharply disagree with each other with regard to God's desire and ability to preserve the Holy Scriptures. By the way, what Biblical men satisfy your allegation here, of righteous men compensating for what unrighteous men lost or destroyed? I can't figure out what you have in mind. Blainer wrote: The BoM is such a compensation. It brings truth and light that was lost to the world through the careless acts of unrighteous men. So you say, but thus far, all such truth and light that was lost and now is restored appears to be falsehood. (For example, the false Book of Mormon doctrine about baptism, and the false notion that the Scriptures have been corrupted and bring people under Satan's power.) Peace be with you. David Miller. -- Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man. (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.
Re: [TruthTalk] Free will and the preservation of Scripture
Blainer wrote: The BoM tells us that after the Bible had gone through the hands of the great and abominable church, it had been significantly altered. Then why were you and Dave denying that the Book of Mormon said this? We went round and round saying that the Book of Mormon claimed that the Bible had been altered, and that this altered Bible has been responsible for bringing an exceedingly great many under the power of Satan. Do you now agree with us on this point? Peace be with you. David Miller. -- Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man. (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.
Re: [TruthTalk] Free will and the preservation of Scripture
Blainer wrote: Mormonism is not divided. There were only about 130 splinter groups. ROTFL! Only 130? Of course that is divided! Peace be with you. David Miller. -- Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man. (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.
Re: [TruthTalk] Free will and the preservation of Scripture
Blainer) I discussed my point of view extensively some time ago. I refer you to that. On Mon, 14 Oct 2002 22:08:08 -0400 David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Blainer wrote: The BoM tells us that after the Bible had gone through the hands of the great and abominable church, it had been significantly altered. Then why were you and Dave denying that the Book of Mormon said this? We went round and round saying that the Book of Mormon claimed that the Bible had been altered, and that this altered Bible has been responsible for bringing an exceedingly great many under the power of Satan. Do you now agree with us on this point? Peace be with you. David Miller. -- Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man. (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed. -- Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man. (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.
Re: [TruthTalk] Free will and the preservation of Scripture
In a message dated 10/12/2002 1:00:33 AM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The BoM is such a compensation. It brings truth and light that was lost to the world through the careless acts of unrighteous men. Are you saying that Joseph Smith was a righteous man and that men like Paul, Timothy, John, Mark, Moses etc are not? You say that the truth of the Bible was "lost to the world: Please elaborate! You are saying that the Bible was altered in it's translation? Have you lost your mind completely? Laura
Re: [TruthTalk] Free will and the preservation of Scripture
He hasn't lost his mind. His mind is brainwashed. If you read the Bible, many times God used the devil's crowd to send a message to the Lord's crowd. Are you saying that Joseph Smith was a righteous man and that men like Paul, Timothy, John, Mark, Moses etc are not? You say that the truth of the Bible was "lost to the world: Please elaborate! You are saying that the Bible was altered in it's translation? Have you lost your mind completely? Laura
