[TV orNotTV] Re: How I Met Your... Father??
Scratch the guest roles part... the only item surviving from the prior show could be MacLaren's. There may be ways of stunt casting HIMYM cast members, even if the storyline is unrelated. -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[TV orNotTV] Re: Parks Rec Feeling Community
How many TV timeouts are there, and how long are they? That's most likely the difference, not the rule books. With last night's Toronto/Winnipeg game in the background, I don't see a huge difference in TV timeouts, although there's no commercial break after a post-TD kick-off. Someone just passed this along to me. It contrasts with (I think) 5 or 6 TV timeouts per quarter in the NFL: According to the CFL regulations (pp. 16-17 here - http://media.cfldb.ca/documents/appendix-e-part-3-cfl-regulations.pdf), there are the following timeouts: (paraphrased) 3 per quarter, each lasting 1:50 1 (a three-minute warning) in each of the second and fourth quarters, each lasting 1:50 1 after both the first and third quarters, each lasting 2:20 So that’s 14 (assuming you count the quarter breaks), or 12 (if you don’t). -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[TV orNotTV] Idaho sportscaster does whole segment as Burgundy
Ladies and germs, Paul Gerke of KIVI in Boise. Enjoy. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=msk4AYOaYco B -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[TV orNotTV] Re: Conan's 20th
Huh. Interesting. Just Late Night, huh? So we're just going to pretend those 9 months at 11:35 didn't exist - like a prom night dumpster baby*? *reference worth 2pts On Monday, November 4, 2013 1:08:12 AM UTC-5, Kevin M. (RPCV) wrote: NBC (Lorne Michaels) has allowed TBS to use footage of Conan's Late Night to commemorate his anniversary in late night TV. Instead of a single special, Conan spent the week sharing clips. And unlike most Jay Leno's highlights, the gags and moments still hold up. -- Kevin M. (RPCV) -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [TV orNotTV] Idaho sportscaster does whole segment as Burgundy
Needs to keep his day job. On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 9:10 AM, Bob in Jersey bob.in.jer...@juno.comwrote: Ladies and germs, Paul Gerke of KIVI in Boise. Enjoy. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=msk4AYOaYco B -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[TV orNotTV] FCC considering eliminating sports blackout rules
Acting Chair Mignon Clyburn says changes in the marketplace (namely, high ticket prices at venues) may make the rules no longer in the public interest. But the leagues can still negotiate with broadcasters, cable and satellite to create and enforce blackout rules of their own: http://transition.fcc.gov/Daily_Releases/Daily_Business/2013/db1101/DOC-323842A1.pdf -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [TV orNotTV] Conan's 20th
On Nov 4, 2013, at 9:37 AM, M-D November wrote: Huh. Interesting. Just Late Night, huh? So we're just going to pretend those 9 months at 11:35 didn't exist - like a prom night dumpster baby*? They did acknowledge, and run a clip package for, The Tonight Show with Conan O'Brien on Conan. -- Jim Ellwanger train...@ellwanger.tv http://www.ellwanger.tv -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
RE: [TV orNotTV] FCC considering eliminating sports blackout rules
Now wait just a second...Clyburn saying "the rules [are] no longer in the public interest" implies that they previously *were* considered in the public interest. In what way? I always understood the blackout rules were in effect to protect the NFL and the team owners, under the assumption that providing free television access to home games would cut into ticket sales. I'd like to hear even one example (even a far-fetched one) of how the blackout rules have ever been "in the public interest."Doug FieldsTampa, FL (go Bucs!) Original Message Subject: [TV orNotTV] FCC considering eliminating sports blackout rules From: "K.M. Richards" richard...@gmail.com Date: Mon, November 04, 2013 1:11 pm To: tvornottv@googlegroups.com Acting Chair Mignon Clyburn says "changes in the marketplace" (namely, high ticket prices at venues) may make the rules no longer in the public interest. But the leagues can still negotiate with broadcasters, cable and satellite to create and enforce blackout rules of their own:http://transition.fcc.gov/Daily_Releases/Daily_Business/2013/db1101/DOC-323842A1.pdf -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [TV orNotTV] Simpsons audible?
I would love to know what these technical issues were, because I can't imagine what would become uncleared in 20 years? On Sun, Nov 3, 2013 at 6:30 PM, David Bruggeman bru...@yahoo.com wrote: Per the EW, there were 'technical issues' in clearing Bart The Lover http://insidetv.ew.com/2013/10/31/simpsons-marcia-wallace-tribute And no interruptions from football. David On Nov 3, 2013, at 7:25 PM, David Bruggeman bru...@yahoo.com wrote: With 10 minutes before the 7:30 Simpsons repeat, my DVR is now showing a different episode scheduled than the previously announced Bart the Lover. Still focused on Edna, the (possibly joined in progress in the East) new rerun is The Ned-liest Catch David -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [TV orNotTV] Simpsons audible?
Maybe they were afraid of Gordie Howe. Pete On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 1:58 PM, Joe Hass hassgoc...@gmail.com wrote: I would love to know what these technical issues were, because I can't imagine what would become uncleared in 20 years? On Sun, Nov 3, 2013 at 6:30 PM, David Bruggeman bru...@yahoo.com wrote: Per the EW, there were 'technical issues' in clearing Bart The Lover http://insidetv.ew.com/2013/10/31/simpsons-marcia-wallace-tribute And no interruptions from football. David On Nov 3, 2013, at 7:25 PM, David Bruggeman bru...@yahoo.com wrote: With 10 minutes before the 7:30 Simpsons repeat, my DVR is now showing a different episode scheduled than the previously announced Bart the Lover. Still focused on Edna, the (possibly joined in progress in the East) new rerun is The Ned-liest Catch David -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [TV orNotTV] Simpsons audible?
Since we know that the syndicated reruns are now all-cash and are scheduled by the individual stations instead of satellite-fed, I suspect that there were stations that scheduled that episode to run during sweeps--I could even see some stations doing a Mrs. Krabappel Week in Tribute to Marcia Wallace and they didn't want their ratings to be hurt by the network airing the same episode. On Monday, November 4, 2013 12:58:21 PM UTC-6, Joe Hass wrote: I would love to know what these technical issues were, because I can't imagine what would become uncleared in 20 years? On Sun, Nov 3, 2013 at 6:30 PM, David Bruggeman bru...@yahoo.comjavascript: wrote: Per the EW, there were 'technical issues' in clearing Bart The Lover http://insidetv.ew.com/2013/10/31/simpsons-marcia-wallace-tribute And no interruptions from football. David On Nov 3, 2013, at 7:25 PM, David Bruggeman bru...@yahoo.comjavascript: wrote: With 10 minutes before the 7:30 Simpsons repeat, my DVR is now showing a different episode scheduled than the previously announced Bart the Lover. Still focused on Edna, the (possibly joined in progress in the East) new rerun is The Ned-liest Catch David -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvor...@googlegroups.comjavascript: To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-...@googlegroups.com javascript: For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+...@googlegroups.com javascript:. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvor...@googlegroups.comjavascript: To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-...@googlegroups.com javascript: For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+...@googlegroups.com javascript:. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [TV orNotTV] FCC considering eliminating sports blackout rules
On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 12:33 PM, d...@flids.net wrote: I'd like to hear even one example (even a far-fetched one) of how the blackout rules have ever been in the public interest. I'd say the initial idea when the rule was creating: that prohibiting blacking out home games in their own market allowed fans of all types to be able to see the games, even if they couldn't afford the tickets. Given the amount of money that communities give towards the building of these facilities*, they become de facto in the public interest. Even Dollar Bill Wirtz would let the very-rare sold-out Blackhawks games air. That said, the rule is now utterly obsolete. Now the question becomes does the FCC consider OTA broadcasts part of being in the public interest, especially in markets (as discussed in these parts earlier) that do not have any non-network or cable OTA broadcasts? That's where the battle between free markets and public interests comes back into play. * I'm aware this fact could launch into its own discussion that could raise my blood pressure, for which I will simply state this fact and continue. -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [TV orNotTV] Simpsons audible?
I don't know if you're being sarcastic, but that crossed my mind, since Gordie isn't of sound mind anymore and Colleen died four years ago. But I would assume that any contract to use Mr Hockey's likeness would last in perpetuity. On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 1:11 PM, Pete Ahles pete.ah...@gmail.com wrote: Maybe they were afraid of Gordie Howe. -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [TV orNotTV] Leno calls rivalry w/Letterman 'tabloid creation'
I think think matches the end of The War Of Late Night and the Jay/Dave paradigm: Jay looks up to Dave, Dave looks down at Jay, but neither do it with a high level of reverence or disgust, and at the end of the day, they're both rich. On Sat, Nov 2, 2013 at 8:09 PM, Bob in Jersey bob.in.jer...@juno.comwrote: On his show Friday, Jay had the tables turned on him by *Watch What Happens Live*'s Andy Cohen, who talked him into a round of Plead The Fifth... video linked at: http://www.thewrap.com/jay-leno-david-letterman-like-still-makes-laugh-video/ -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[TV orNotTV] Netflix Acquires Egypt Protest Doc
As further proof that the streamers want to be the new HBO, they are getting into the doc biz by acquiring The Square, the award-winning look at the 2012 protests that caused governmental shifts in Egypt--it's currently playing an Oscar-eligibility run in NY and LA, but will premiere on Netflix early next year (I suspect during Oscar voting, if it gets nominated for Documentary Feature): http://www.thewrap.com/netflix-acquires-first-original-documentary-square/ Back in their DVDs-sent-by-mail days, Netflix did bankroll some docs through their now-defunct Red Envelope production company, most notably Kirby Dick's attack on the MPAA ratings system This Film is Not Yet Rated. -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[TV orNotTV] Hulu Deputizes Western Sitcom for 2nd Season
Quick Draw, the improvised Western parody created, showrun and starring John Lehr of 10 Items or Less, placed in the streaming service's top 10 most-streamed series during its summer run and has been renewed for a second season of 10 eps for next year: http://www.thewrap.com/quick-draw-gets-second-season-order-hulu/ For the record, Hulu is still following the standard TV model of putting up a new ep weekly instead of the all-episodes-at-once approach of Netflix. -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
RE: [TV orNotTV] FCC considering eliminating sports blackout rules
Could we possibly be talking about two different things? There is no rule *prohibiting* blacking out home games. The rule *requires* home games be blacked out, unless 85% or more of the stadium's seats are sold 72 hours prior to game time. Doug Fields Tampa, FL From: tvornottv@googlegroups.com [mailto:tvornottv@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Joe Hass Sent: Monday, November 04, 2013 2:31 PM To: TV Or Not TV Subject: Re: [TV orNotTV] FCC considering eliminating sports blackout rules On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 12:33 PM, d...@flids.net wrote: I'd like to hear even one example (even a far-fetched one) of how the blackout rules have ever been in the public interest. I'd say the initial idea when the rule was creating: that prohibiting blacking out home games in their own market allowed fans of all types to be able to see the games, even if they couldn't afford the tickets. Given the amount of money that communities give towards the building of these facilities*, they become de facto in the public interest. Even Dollar Bill Wirtz would let the very-rare sold-out Blackhawks games air. That said, the rule is now utterly obsolete. Now the question becomes does the FCC consider OTA broadcasts part of being in the public interest, especially in markets (as discussed in these parts earlier) that do not have any non-network or cable OTA broadcasts? That's where the battle between free markets and public interests comes back into play. * I'm aware this fact could launch into its own discussion that could raise my blood pressure, for which I will simply state this fact and continue. . -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[TV orNotTV] When Disney Dish Dance, It's Not About The Money Anymore
Generally, the battles have less to do with money and more to do with technology beyond the box (think TV Everywhere). http://www.nytimes.com/2013/11/04/business/media/disney-and-dish-wrangle-not-over-broadcast-fees-but-the-future-of-tv.html I think this misses the sports issue (which is still all about cash), but still a good read. -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[TV orNotTV] OH Newspaper With Sister CBS Affil Told Not to Diss the Eye in Print
The Dayton Daily News ran an article from Minneapolis Star-Tribune critic Neal Justin giving CBS a C+ grade for its fall season (in an article that hit all of the Big 4 almost equally), but since the paper and Dayton CBS affil WHIO are both owned by Cox Media, a Bridge Editor trying to link Cox's print and broadcast properties in Dayton together criticized the move and said that this should not happen in the future, so don't expect pans of Two and a Half Men and CSI any time soon in the paper: http://jimromenesko.com/2013/11/04/dayton-daily-news-memo-there-will-be-nothing-negative-about-cbs-in-our-newspaper/ -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[TV orNotTV] Re: OH Newspaper With Sister CBS Affil Told Not to Diss the Eye in Print
And: The comments on Romenesko included someone saying what news value was in this, because would you expect Fox News telling viewers to not watch American Dad!: Since the Chicago Tribune threw off the last yokes of Col. McCormick in the 70s, WGN radio and TV and their programming have been criticized profusely by Tribune critics, including Geraldo Rivera when the Tribune Co. was syndicating his talk show and the infamous Al Capone's Vault special. I would assume that when WQXR was owned by the NY Times, one of their classical music critics (yeah, they had and may still have more than one classical music critic) criticized the station at one time or another for being too conservative in its music programming. And when Mike Darnell announced the later-scuttled special O.J.: If I Did It, FNC hosts took pains to point out that their channel's management was not responsible for Fox Broadcasting programming, even if under the same owners. On Monday, November 4, 2013 2:14:28 PM UTC-6, Mark Jeffries wrote: The Dayton Daily News ran an article from Minneapolis Star-Tribune critic Neal Justin giving CBS a C+ grade for its fall season (in an article that hit all of the Big 4 almost equally), but since the paper and Dayton CBS affil WHIO are both owned by Cox Media, a Bridge Editor trying to link Cox's print and broadcast properties in Dayton together criticized the move and said that this should not happen in the future, so don't expect pans of Two and a Half Men and CSI any time soon in the paper: http://jimromenesko.com/2013/11/04/dayton-daily-news-memo-there-will-be-nothing-negative-about-cbs-in-our-newspaper/ -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
RE: [TV orNotTV] FCC considering eliminating sports blackout rules
Hmmm.now that I read back over this thread, maybe we *are* talking about two different things. I'm specifically talking about the NFL's blackout rule. I'm not aware of any rules affecting the broadcast of the home games of any of the other major sports. DF From: tvornottv@googlegroups.com [mailto:tvornottv@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Doug Fields Sent: Monday, November 04, 2013 3:12 PM To: tvornottv@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [TV orNotTV] FCC considering eliminating sports blackout rules Could we possibly be talking about two different things? There is no rule *prohibiting* blacking out home games. The rule *requires* home games be blacked out, unless 85% or more of the stadium's seats are sold 72 hours prior to game time. Doug Fields Tampa, FL From: tvornottv@googlegroups.com [mailto:tvornottv@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Joe Hass Sent: Monday, November 04, 2013 2:31 PM To: TV Or Not TV Subject: Re: [TV orNotTV] FCC considering eliminating sports blackout rules On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 12:33 PM, d...@flids.net wrote: I'd like to hear even one example (even a far-fetched one) of how the blackout rules have ever been in the public interest. I'd say the initial idea when the rule was creating: that prohibiting blacking out home games in their own market allowed fans of all types to be able to see the games, even if they couldn't afford the tickets. Given the amount of money that communities give towards the building of these facilities*, they become de facto in the public interest. Even Dollar Bill Wirtz would let the very-rare sold-out Blackhawks games air. That said, the rule is now utterly obsolete. Now the question becomes does the FCC consider OTA broadcasts part of being in the public interest, especially in markets (as discussed in these parts earlier) that do not have any non-network or cable OTA broadcasts? That's where the battle between free markets and public interests comes back into play. * I'm aware this fact could launch into its own discussion that could raise my blood pressure, for which I will simply state this fact and continue. . -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
RE: [TV orNotTV] FCC considering eliminating sports blackout rules
Nope.upon further research, it appears I was on the right track after all. http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/11/01/us-usa-broadcasting-blackout-idUSB RE9A00ZW20131101 Doug Fields Tampa, FL From: tvornottv@googlegroups.com [mailto:tvornottv@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Doug Fields Sent: Monday, November 04, 2013 3:22 PM To: tvornottv@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [TV orNotTV] FCC considering eliminating sports blackout rules Hmmm.now that I read back over this thread, maybe we *are* talking about two different things. I'm specifically talking about the NFL's blackout rule. I'm not aware of any rules affecting the broadcast of the home games of any of the other major sports. DF From: tvornottv@googlegroups.com [mailto:tvornottv@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Doug Fields Sent: Monday, November 04, 2013 3:12 PM To: tvornottv@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [TV orNotTV] FCC considering eliminating sports blackout rules Could we possibly be talking about two different things? There is no rule *prohibiting* blacking out home games. The rule *requires* home games be blacked out, unless 85% or more of the stadium's seats are sold 72 hours prior to game time. Doug Fields Tampa, FL From: tvornottv@googlegroups.com [mailto:tvornottv@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Joe Hass Sent: Monday, November 04, 2013 2:31 PM To: TV Or Not TV Subject: Re: [TV orNotTV] FCC considering eliminating sports blackout rules On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 12:33 PM, d...@flids.net wrote: I'd like to hear even one example (even a far-fetched one) of how the blackout rules have ever been in the public interest. I'd say the initial idea when the rule was creating: that prohibiting blacking out home games in their own market allowed fans of all types to be able to see the games, even if they couldn't afford the tickets. Given the amount of money that communities give towards the building of these facilities*, they become de facto in the public interest. Even Dollar Bill Wirtz would let the very-rare sold-out Blackhawks games air. That said, the rule is now utterly obsolete. Now the question becomes does the FCC consider OTA broadcasts part of being in the public interest, especially in markets (as discussed in these parts earlier) that do not have any non-network or cable OTA broadcasts? That's where the battle between free markets and public interests comes back into play. * I'm aware this fact could launch into its own discussion that could raise my blood pressure, for which I will simply state this fact and continue. . -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [TV orNotTV] How I Met Your... Father??
Well, it could happen: If ABCFAM could end Secret Life of the American Teenager as Shailene Woodley was exiting her teens (and yes, on the verge of being a big movie star), one would think that they would graduate the PLL four pretty soon before they enter Gabrielle Carteris territory. Mark Jeffries Saints Spotlight Editor spotligh...@gmail.com On Sun, Nov 3, 2013 at 6:33 PM, chia...@nc.rr.com wrote: Bob in Jersey bob.in.jer...@juno.com wrote: Yep, a spinoff of the soon-to-end ...Mother is on the horizon... a whole new group is to be unveiled in their finale, connected in only minor ways to Barney, Ted *et al*, of whom apparently another eventually-to-be-revealed member, speaking in VO to future offspring, surreptitiously begins *her* journey toward(s) meeting a mate... Emily Spivey, once of *SNL* and later *Up All Night*, co-execs with Bays and Thomas... members of the former's cast can show up in guest roles... http://www.deadline.com/2013/10/cbs-how-i-met-your-mother-spinoff/ Probably won't happen... but what would happen if two of the central five were Barney's half-sister Carly and Ted's sister Heather... both revealed to have had seemingly adventurous pasts in their own rite? But again, Ashley Benson's busy being a pretty little liar, and Erin Cahill's busy being the female Ted McGinley, so... wishful thinking at best. ~D -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[TV orNotTV] ABC Takes Care of Its New Sitcoms
The Goldbergs and Trophy Wife get their back nines, Super Fun Night only renewed for four and no additional episodes for Back in the Game, which could put it on the chopping block: http://www.nytimes.com/2013/11/04/arts/television/abc-extends-the-lives-of-some-new-sitcoms.html?adxnnl=1src=unfeedurl=http://json8.nytimes.com/pages/business/media/index.jsonpadxnnlx=1383597540-5iQQgCer/9Iq+eg1DlUB4Q -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[TV orNotTV] NCI-Candy: 'NCIS' scoop: Emily Wickersham upped to series regular
'NCIS' scoop: Emily Wickersham upped to series regularhttp://insidetv.ew.com/2013/11/04/ncis-emily-wickersham-series-regular/ Apparently, her character, Ellie Bishop, has all the right moves. Ron Casalotti Wayne, NJ -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [TV orNotTV] FCC considering eliminating sports blackout rules
There was a time when the NFL blacked out all home games, whether they were sold out or not, to encourage ticket sales. This changed after the 1972 season when the Washington team was blacked out during their sold-out playoff run (yep, they even blacked out the playoffs). Because, as usual, frequently nothing happens on the Federal level if it doesn't directly affect the Washington area, the Feds passed the law prohibiting home-team blackouts when teams sold out their facility at least 72 hours prior to the start of the contest. The argument was that to prohibit broadcast of an event was not in the public interest. That's the law that has remained in effect today. My reference to the NHL was that the Chicago Blackhawks (then owned by the cheap-and-thankfully-now-dead Bill Wirtz), was (to my knowledge) the only non-NFL that used that law to black out home games, including network-aired contests, if the games weren't sold out. Every other blackout rule you know of is negotiated by league/teams and broadcasters, and have nothing to do with this law. The number of NFL games blacked out has dropped significantly over the years. The NFL has even offered to lower their standards to lift blackouts (though it's been reported that teams have opted to take the blackout over the financial cost of taking advantage). So the law as written is pointless today. The reasonable question to ask of the acting Chairwoman is whether the Commission is interested in looking at the situation today with these other blackout rules (probably the two most onerous being Fox's Saturday baseball blackout rules and MLB's bizarre home market maphttp://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/59/MLB_Blackout_Areas.png which makes the entire state of Iowa part of the home market of one-fifth of the league and extends home market to distances of 500 miles or more) and whether they are part of the public interest or if they simply decide it's just the free market at work. Hint: if they were really serious, they'd just need to utter two words: antitrust exemption. On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 2:25 PM, Doug Fields d...@flids.net wrote: Nope…upon further research, it appears I was on the right track after all. http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/11/01/us-usa-broadcasting-blackout-idUSBRE9A00ZW20131101 Doug Fields Tampa, FL *From:* tvornottv@googlegroups.com [mailto:tvornottv@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Doug Fields *Sent:* Monday, November 04, 2013 3:22 PM *To:* tvornottv@googlegroups.com *Subject:* RE: [TV orNotTV] FCC considering eliminating sports blackout rules Hmmm…now that I read back over this thread, maybe we **are** talking about two different things. I’m specifically talking about the NFL’s blackout rule. I’m not aware of any rules affecting the broadcast of the home games of any of the other major sports. DF *From:* tvornottv@googlegroups.com [mailto:tvornottv@googlegroups.comtvornottv@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Doug Fields *Sent:* Monday, November 04, 2013 3:12 PM *To:* tvornottv@googlegroups.com *Subject:* RE: [TV orNotTV] FCC considering eliminating sports blackout rules Could we possibly be talking about two different things? There is no rule **prohibiting** blacking out home games. The rule **requires** home games be blacked out, unless 85% or more of the stadium’s seats are sold 72 hours prior to game time. Doug Fields Tampa, FL *From:* tvornottv@googlegroups.com [mailto:tvornottv@googlegroups.comtvornottv@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Joe Hass *Sent:* Monday, November 04, 2013 2:31 PM *To:* TV Or Not TV *Subject:* Re: [TV orNotTV] FCC considering eliminating sports blackout rules On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 12:33 PM, d...@flids.net wrote: I'd like to hear even one example (even a far-fetched one) of how the blackout rules have ever been in the public interest. I'd say the initial idea when the rule was creating: that prohibiting blacking out home games in their own market allowed fans of all types to be able to see the games, even if they couldn't afford the tickets. Given the amount of money that communities give towards the building of these facilities*, they become de facto in the public interest. Even Dollar Bill Wirtz would let the very-rare sold-out Blackhawks games air. That said, the rule is now utterly obsolete. Now the question becomes does the FCC consider OTA broadcasts part of being in the public interest, especially in markets (as discussed in these parts earlier) that do not have any non-network or cable OTA broadcasts? That's where the battle between free markets and public interests comes back into play. * I'm aware this fact could launch into its own discussion that could raise my blood pressure, for which I will simply state this fact and continue. . -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group.
Re: [TV orNotTV] FCC considering eliminating sports blackout rules
On Nov 4, 2013, at 2:50 PM, Joe Hass wrote: The reasonable question to ask of the acting Chairwoman is whether the Commission is interested in looking at the situation today with these other blackout rules (probably the two most onerous being Fox's Saturday baseball blackout rules... This one is gone with the new 2014 TV contract -- Fox's Saturday games will be available on MLB.tv and MLB Extra Innings: http://www.baseballnation.com/2012/10/2/3443876/mlb-tv-blackouts-fox-sports-ending-2014 -- Jim Ellwanger train...@ellwanger.tv http://www.ellwanger.tv -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [TV orNotTV] Simpsons audible?
Three thoughts re: the rights issue - 1) The previously mentioned picture of Gordie Howe 2) The use of Howe's NHL statistics before the end credit roll - maybe NHL claims ownership over this data, and FOX didn't clear it? 3) The image of Gomer Pyle, USMC that appears (in animated form) on the TV at one point in the episode? On Monday, November 4, 2013 2:33:44 PM UTC-5, Joe Hass wrote: I don't know if you're being sarcastic, but that crossed my mind, since Gordie isn't of sound mind anymore and Colleen died four years ago. But I would assume that any contract to use Mr Hockey's likeness would last in perpetuity. On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 1:11 PM, Pete Ahles pete@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: Maybe they were afraid of Gordie Howe. -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [TV orNotTV] Conan's 20th
Was it a title card reading Footage not available with production music underneath? On Monday, November 4, 2013 1:30:16 PM UTC-5, Jim Ellwanger wrote: On Nov 4, 2013, at 9:37 AM, M-D November wrote: Huh. Interesting. Just Late Night, huh? So we're just going to pretend those 9 months at 11:35 didn't exist - like a prom night dumpster baby*? They did acknowledge, and run a clip package for, The Tonight Show with Conan O'Brien on Conan. -- Jim Ellwanger trai...@ellwanger.tv javascript: http://www.ellwanger.tv -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
RE: [TV orNotTV] FCC considering eliminating sports blackout rules
Hmmm.now that I read back over this thread, maybe we *are* talking about two different things. I'm specifically talking about the NFL's blackout rule. I'm not aware of any rules affecting the broadcast of the home games of any of the other major sports. The other rule may be the one that allows local rightsholders to demand that other entities be blacked out. For instance, if the Cubs are playing the Pirates, WGN America will often have a slide up (courtesy of the local cable company, I'm sure) saying that FCC rules bar them from showing the game in Pittsburgh. My recollection is that the NFL rule was actually put into place voluntarily by the league in about 1973 when Congress started to threaten to pass laws. Before that, all home games were blacked out regardless of the ticket situation, so that I had to hear the Immaculate Reception on radio. Even Super Bowls were blacked out in the markets where they were played. With all the changes of the last forty years, about the only benefit I can see for anyone is teams having an excuse to sell their last few thousand seats right before the deadline. -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [TV orNotTV] FCC considering eliminating sports blackout rules
On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 5:50 PM, Joe Hass hassgoc...@gmail.com wrote: The reasonable question to ask of the acting Chairwoman is whether the Commission is interested in looking at the situation today with these other blackout rules (probably the two most onerous being Fox's Saturday baseball blackout rules and MLB's bizarre home market maphttp://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/59/MLB_Blackout_Areas.png which makes the entire state of Iowa part of the home market of one-fifth of the league and extends home market to distances of 500 miles or more) and whether they are part of the public interest or if they simply decide it's just the free market at work. Hint: if they were really serious, they'd just need to utter two words: antitrust exemption. Today was the acting chairwoman's last day and this decision might be relevant to that context. Meaning she may not be responsible for the consequences. -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [TV orNotTV] FCC considering eliminating sports blackout rules
JW, to Doug Fields, in part: Hmmm.now that I read back over this thread, maybe we *are* talking about two different things. I'm specifically talking about the NFL's blackout rule. I'm not aware of any rules affecting the broadcast of the home games of any of the other major sports. The other rule may be the one that allows local rightsholders to demand that other entities be blacked out. For instance, if the Cubs are playing the Pirates, WGN America will often have a slide up (courtesy of the local cable company, I'm sure) saying that FCC rules bar them from showing the game in Pittsburgh. Title 47 Code of Federal Regulations, section 76.111. Companions are 76.127 which covers satellited events, and 76.128 further explains the definition of territory that may be subject to a blackout. B -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [TV orNotTV] FCC considering eliminating sports blackout rules
Joe Hass, to Doug Fields, in part: The reasonable question to ask of the acting Chairwoman is whether the Commission is interested in looking at the situation today with these other blackout rules (probably the two most onerous being Fox's Saturday baseball blackout rules and MLB's bizarre home market maphttp://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/59/MLB_Blackout_Areas.png which makes the entire state of Iowa part of the home market of one-fifth of the league and extends home market to distances of 500 miles or more) and whether they are part of the public interest or if they simply decide it's just the free market at work. Hint: if they were really serious, they'd just need to utter two words: antitrust exemption. I always preferred this more-detailed, and of course larger, version of the map linked above: http://www.desipio.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/mlb-broadcast-map.jpg B -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[TV orNotTV] NY stations all nutsy-coocoo?
Are they still in breaking-news mode following the shooting at Garden State Plaza? Philly (at least ABC) went right to it on their 11pm news. B -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[TV orNotTV] The Mentalist blunder? (spoilers only in linked article)
As noted under Simpsons audible?, the scheduled ep got tossed here in the USA (to another week where it *will* be Delayed By Football), though as is apt to happen, the cunning have found illicit versions of it, as for example reports this overseas paper... http://au.ibtimes.com/articles/519471/20131105/mentalist-6-fire-brimstone-spoilers-watch-online.htm#.UnhzxhCmYlQ But seriously, was there a preview at the end for the ep that was to follow next week (now also pushed back) ? And did or didn't the segment air in (at least parts of) Canada? B -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
