[TV orNotTV] So long, B.B. Andersen
The first person ever to be voted off *Survivor*, way back on Borneo. http://www.thewrap.com/survivor-contestant-b-b-andersen-dead-77/ B -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[TV orNotTV] It ain't watching paint dry, but....
A few days old... a furriner-TV phenomenon, covering things that take a rather-long time, in this example a knitting contest... http://www.deadline.com/2013/11/slow-tv-norwegian-phenomenon-continues-with-9-hour-%E2%80%98national-knitting-evening%E2%80%99-norway-nrk-lmno/ B -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[TV orNotTV] And just one more thing, the Amazon Deal for Nov 5th...
Columbo: The Complete Series, just released a year ago... all the telemovies through 2003. $52.49 with free shipping, order by 12mid west. http://www.amazon.com/dp/B008RJ6TTC/ref=gbsl_tit_l-1_2722_4793c78c?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DERpf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DERpf_rd_t=701pf_rd_s=left-new-1pf_rd_r=02PQRKBPZDV8CSKKCNKNpf_rd_i=20pf_rd_p=1649092722 B -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [TV orNotTV] Simpsons audible?
On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 8:30 PM, M-D November mdnovem...@gmail.com wrote: Three thoughts re: the rights issue - 1) The previously mentioned picture of Gordie Howe 2) The use of Howe's NHL statistics before the end credit roll - maybe NHL claims ownership over this data, and FOX didn't clear it? 3) The image of Gomer Pyle, USMC that appears (in animated form) on the TV at one point in the episode? It's not number 2: the courts (and I'm sorry I can't grab the actual case) have ruled that statistics from sporting events are considered facts. It went back to an MLB case where they tried to shut down every fantasy baseball league because they owned the data from their games. The courts ruled (IIRC) they couldn't own a public fact (since their games were public events) or a compilation of said facts. Sidebar: at some point the NHL's big annual fact/record book had a Terms Of Use section trying to argue the same thing. -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
RE: [TV orNotTV] So long, B.B. Andersen
Not to pick nits, but according to the article you linked, he was the *second* contestant voted off in Season 1. :)Doug FieldsTampa, FL Original Message Subject: [TV orNotTV] So long, B.B. Andersen From: Bob in Jersey bob.in.jer...@juno.com Date: Tue, November 05, 2013 11:09 am To: tvornottv@googlegroups.com The first person ever to be voted off Survivor, way back on Borneo. http://www.thewrap.com/survivor-contestant-b-b-andersen-dead-77/B -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[TV orNotTV] Re: NY stations all nutsy-coocoo?
KYW/3 (CBS Philly) seemed to be on normal schedule - SCG started at 12:37. On Monday, November 4, 2013 11:16:06 PM UTC-5, Bob in Jersey wrote: Are they still in breaking-news mode following the shooting at Garden State Plaza? Philly (at least ABC) went right to it on their 11pm news. B -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: NY stations all nutsy-coocoo?
WNBC and WABC wreaked havoc on Black List and Castle. On the other hand, it's interesting to know how much of each of those shows you can miss, and still follow the story. On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 1:22 PM, M-D November mdnovem...@gmail.com wrote: KYW/3 (CBS Philly) seemed to be on normal schedule - SCG started at 12:37. On Monday, November 4, 2013 11:16:06 PM UTC-5, Bob in Jersey wrote: Are they still in breaking-news mode following the shooting at Garden State Plaza? Philly (at least ABC) went right to it on their 11pm news. B -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [TV orNotTV] So long, B.B. Andersen
Doug Fields, to moi: Not to pick nits, but according to the article you linked, he was the *second* contestant voted off in Season 1. :) True...Sonja was first out. They could have caught it after posting but before anyone commented... good for them. B -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [TV orNotTV] FCC considering eliminating sports blackout rules
Reminds me that a Dodger fan friend of mine who lives in Hawaii is blacked out of all West Coast games (Pads, Dodgers, Angels, Giants, A's, and Mariners). I assume MLB wants to encourage him to climb onto a plane and fly six hours if he wants to see a Dodger broadcast. --Dave Sikula On Monday, November 4, 2013 7:56:38 PM UTC-8, Bob in Jersey wrote: Joe Hass, to Doug Fields, in part: The reasonable question to ask of the acting Chairwoman is whether the Commission is interested in looking at the situation today with these other blackout rules (probably the two most onerous being Fox's Saturday baseball blackout rules and MLB's bizarre home market maphttp://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/59/MLB_Blackout_Areas.png which makes the entire state of Iowa part of the home market of one-fifth of the league and extends home market to distances of 500 miles or more) and whether they are part of the public interest or if they simply decide it's just the free market at work. Hint: if they were really serious, they'd just need to utter two words: antitrust exemption. I always preferred this more-detailed, and of course larger, version of the map linked above: http://www.desipio.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/mlb-broadcast-map.jpg B On Monday, November 4, 2013 7:56:38 PM UTC-8, Bob in Jersey wrote: Joe Hass, to Doug Fields, in part: The reasonable question to ask of the acting Chairwoman is whether the Commission is interested in looking at the situation today with these other blackout rules (probably the two most onerous being Fox's Saturday baseball blackout rules and MLB's bizarre home market maphttp://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/59/MLB_Blackout_Areas.png which makes the entire state of Iowa part of the home market of one-fifth of the league and extends home market to distances of 500 miles or more) and whether they are part of the public interest or if they simply decide it's just the free market at work. Hint: if they were really serious, they'd just need to utter two words: antitrust exemption. I always preferred this more-detailed, and of course larger, version of the map linked above: http://www.desipio.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/mlb-broadcast-map.jpg B -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[TV orNotTV] FX Sets Winter Premieres
The main news here outside of the return dates is that Chozen, the animated series from the Floyd County people (Archer) about a white rapper is airing on the mothership, not FXX (the Ali G repackage is being paired with the mothership moveover Legit on that channel)--Chozen is being paired with Archer for a Monday night block (FX's first entry into that night) starting Jan. 13, while the first brand new series on FXX may not be until next summer or fall: http://www.thewrap.com/justifed-archer-chozen-get-premiere-dates/ -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [TV orNotTV] FCC considering eliminating sports blackout rules
Reno was blacked out on 49ers and Raiders games. Worst part was when there was a killer 49ers or Raiders game on the road that you absolutely wanted to watch, Reno would get some other crappy game because the networks are trying to pad the viewers for advertisers stuck with the game no one wanted to watch. On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 1:39 PM, Dave Sikula dsik...@yahoo.com wrote: Reminds me that a Dodger fan friend of mine who lives in Hawaii is blacked out of all West Coast games (Pads, Dodgers, Angels, Giants, A's, and Mariners). I assume MLB wants to encourage him to climb onto a plane and fly six hours if he wants to see a Dodger broadcast. --Dave Sikula On Monday, November 4, 2013 7:56:38 PM UTC-8, Bob in Jersey wrote: Joe Hass, to Doug Fields, in part: The reasonable question to ask of the acting Chairwoman is whether the Commission is interested in looking at the situation today with these other blackout rules (probably the two most onerous being Fox's Saturday baseball blackout rules and MLB's bizarre home market maphttp://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/59/MLB_Blackout_Areas.png which makes the entire state of Iowa part of the home market of one-fifth of the league and extends home market to distances of 500 miles or more) and whether they are part of the public interest or if they simply decide it's just the free market at work. Hint: if they were really serious, they'd just need to utter two words: antitrust exemption. I always preferred this more-detailed, and of course larger, version of the map linked above: http://www.desipio.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/mlb-broadcast-map.jpg B On Monday, November 4, 2013 7:56:38 PM UTC-8, Bob in Jersey wrote: Joe Hass, to Doug Fields, in part: The reasonable question to ask of the acting Chairwoman is whether the Commission is interested in looking at the situation today with these other blackout rules (probably the two most onerous being Fox's Saturday baseball blackout rules and MLB's bizarre home market maphttp://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/59/MLB_Blackout_Areas.png which makes the entire state of Iowa part of the home market of one-fifth of the league and extends home market to distances of 500 miles or more) and whether they are part of the public interest or if they simply decide it's just the free market at work. Hint: if they were really serious, they'd just need to utter two words: antitrust exemption. I always preferred this more-detailed, and of course larger, version of the map linked above: http://www.desipio.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/mlb-broadcast-map.jpg B -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [TV orNotTV] FCC considering eliminating sports blackout rules
On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 12:25 PM, Doug Fields d...@flids.net wrote: Nopeā¦upon further research, it appears I was on the right track after all. http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/11/01/us-usa-broadcasting-blackout-idUSBRE9A00ZW20131101 Here is another storty that makes the same point, in somewhat expanded form: http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/envelope/cotown/la-et-ct-blackout-fcc-nfl-20131104,0,5510670.story#axzz2joqp3Ypn This has been an unusually confusing story - because FCC Commissioner Mignon Clyburn was so cryptic in her statement (back when she was acting chair last week), and because I (and, it seems, many sports fans) were so fuzzy on what the actual rule has been, and because many of the news reports were equally fuzzy, and did little to clarify the situation. The FCC rule prevents cable/satellite providers from circumventing a local sports blackout. The FCC neither requires local blackouts, nor requires them to be lifted. Lifting this rule is mostly an issue in the broadcaster vs cable wars, and has little to do with making sports programing more accessible to the public. The Times article notes that: Blackouts used to be commonplace in the NFL. In 1980, 35% of all games were blacked out in a team's home market. By 2000, the figure was down to 14%. Last year, only 6% of games were blacked out and this year none have been blacked out. I suspect most of the recent blackouts have been Raider games. I think Doug's original question still stands unanswered: How did the original rule ever serve the public interest? Similarly, how does getting rid of the rule serve the public interest? It seems like the idea is that the rule serves the public interest by making sure that cable operators do not have an unfair advantage vs over the air broadcasters; this ensures that sports programing will continue to be available over the air. Getting rid of the rule serves the public I suppose because so many fans now have access to cable/satellite that they do not need over the air, and are hurt by not being able to access distant feeds of locally blacked out events. -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[TV orNotTV] Re: Finke seeking to get out of her contract...
...and per her Twitter, she has! https://twitter.com/NikkiFinke/status/397915526984253440 Deadline confirms: http://www.deadline.com/2013/11/deadline-com-and-nikki-finke-parting-ways/ Her namesake domain as of this posting still traps to Deadline. B -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Finke seeking to get out of her contract...
Can't Finke just join the panel on The View or America's Got Talent so I can ignore her like I ignore the rest of the people on those shows? On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 9:06 PM, Bob in Jersey bob.in.jer...@juno.comwrote: ...and per her Twitter, she has! https://twitter.com/NikkiFinke/status/397915526984253440 Deadline confirms: http://www.deadline.com/2013/11/deadline-com-and-nikki-finke-parting-ways/ Her namesake domain as of this posting still traps to Deadline. B -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Kevin M. (RPCV) -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.