[TV orNotTV] So long, B.B. Andersen

2013-11-05 Thread Bob in Jersey
The first person ever to be voted off *Survivor*, way back on Borneo. 

http://www.thewrap.com/survivor-contestant-b-b-andersen-dead-77/

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[TV orNotTV] It ain't watching paint dry, but....

2013-11-05 Thread Bob in Jersey
A few days old... a furriner-TV phenomenon, covering things that take a 
rather-long time, in this example a knitting contest... 

http://www.deadline.com/2013/11/slow-tv-norwegian-phenomenon-continues-with-9-hour-%E2%80%98national-knitting-evening%E2%80%99-norway-nrk-lmno/

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[TV orNotTV] And just one more thing, the Amazon Deal for Nov 5th...

2013-11-05 Thread Bob in Jersey
Columbo: The Complete Series, just released a year ago... all the 
telemovies through 2003. $52.49 with free shipping, order by 12mid west.

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B008RJ6TTC/ref=gbsl_tit_l-1_2722_4793c78c?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DERpf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DERpf_rd_t=701pf_rd_s=left-new-1pf_rd_r=02PQRKBPZDV8CSKKCNKNpf_rd_i=20pf_rd_p=1649092722

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Simpsons audible?

2013-11-05 Thread Joe Hass
On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 8:30 PM, M-D November mdnovem...@gmail.com wrote:

 Three thoughts re: the rights issue -

 1) The previously mentioned picture of Gordie Howe
 2) The use of Howe's NHL statistics before the end credit roll - maybe NHL
 claims ownership over this data, and FOX didn't clear it?
 3) The image of Gomer Pyle, USMC that appears (in animated form) on the
 TV at one point in the episode?


It's not number 2: the courts (and I'm sorry I can't grab the actual case)
have ruled that statistics from sporting events are considered facts. It
went back to an MLB case where they tried to shut down every fantasy
baseball league because they owned the data from their games. The courts
ruled (IIRC) they couldn't own a public fact (since their games were public
events) or a compilation of said facts.

Sidebar: at some point the NHL's big annual fact/record book had a Terms
Of Use section trying to argue the same thing.

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RE: [TV orNotTV] So long, B.B. Andersen

2013-11-05 Thread doug
Not to pick nits, but according to the article you linked, he was the *second* contestant voted off in Season 1. :)Doug FieldsTampa, FL


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Subject: [TV orNotTV] So long, B.B. Andersen
From: Bob in Jersey bob.in.jer...@juno.com
Date: Tue, November 05, 2013 11:09 am
To: tvornottv@googlegroups.com

The first person ever to be voted off Survivor, way back on Borneo. http://www.thewrap.com/survivor-contestant-b-b-andersen-dead-77/B  





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[TV orNotTV] Re: NY stations all nutsy-coocoo?

2013-11-05 Thread M-D November
KYW/3 (CBS Philly) seemed to be on normal schedule - SCG started at 12:37.

On Monday, November 4, 2013 11:16:06 PM UTC-5, Bob in Jersey wrote:

 Are they still in breaking-news mode following the shooting at Garden 
 State Plaza?

 Philly (at least ABC) went right to it on their 11pm news.

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: NY stations all nutsy-coocoo?

2013-11-05 Thread Jon Delfin
WNBC and WABC wreaked havoc on Black List and Castle. On the other
hand, it's interesting to know how much of each of those shows you can
miss, and still follow the story.


On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 1:22 PM, M-D November mdnovem...@gmail.com wrote:

 KYW/3 (CBS Philly) seemed to be on normal schedule - SCG started at 12:37.

 On Monday, November 4, 2013 11:16:06 PM UTC-5, Bob in Jersey wrote:

 Are they still in breaking-news mode following the shooting at Garden
 State Plaza?

 Philly (at least ABC) went right to it on their 11pm news.

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Re: [TV orNotTV] So long, B.B. Andersen

2013-11-05 Thread Bob in Jersey

Doug Fields, to moi:


 Not to pick nits, but according to the article you linked, he was the 
 *second* contestant voted off in Season 1.  :)



True...Sonja was first out.

They could have caught it after posting but before anyone commented... good 
for them.  B 

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Re: [TV orNotTV] FCC considering eliminating sports blackout rules

2013-11-05 Thread Dave Sikula
Reminds me that a Dodger fan friend of mine who lives in Hawaii is blacked 
out of all West Coast games (Pads, Dodgers, Angels, Giants, A's, and 
Mariners). I assume MLB wants to encourage him to climb onto a plane and 
fly six hours if he wants to see a Dodger broadcast.

--Dave Sikula

On Monday, November 4, 2013 7:56:38 PM UTC-8, Bob in Jersey wrote:


 Joe Hass, to Doug Fields, in part:

 The reasonable question to ask of the acting Chairwoman is whether the 
 Commission is interested in looking at the situation today with these other 
 blackout rules (probably the two most onerous being Fox's Saturday baseball 
 blackout rules and MLB's bizarre home market 
 maphttp://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/59/MLB_Blackout_Areas.png
  which 
 makes the entire state of Iowa part of the home market of one-fifth of the 
 league and extends home market to distances of 500 miles or more) and 
 whether they are part of the public interest or if they simply decide 
 it's just the free market at work. Hint: if they were really serious, 
 they'd just need to utter two words: antitrust exemption. 


 I always preferred this more-detailed, and of course larger, version of 
 the map linked above:

 http://www.desipio.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/mlb-broadcast-map.jpg

 B


On Monday, November 4, 2013 7:56:38 PM UTC-8, Bob in Jersey wrote:


 Joe Hass, to Doug Fields, in part:

 The reasonable question to ask of the acting Chairwoman is whether the 
 Commission is interested in looking at the situation today with these other 
 blackout rules (probably the two most onerous being Fox's Saturday baseball 
 blackout rules and MLB's bizarre home market 
 maphttp://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/59/MLB_Blackout_Areas.png
  which 
 makes the entire state of Iowa part of the home market of one-fifth of the 
 league and extends home market to distances of 500 miles or more) and 
 whether they are part of the public interest or if they simply decide 
 it's just the free market at work. Hint: if they were really serious, 
 they'd just need to utter two words: antitrust exemption. 


 I always preferred this more-detailed, and of course larger, version of 
 the map linked above:

 http://www.desipio.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/mlb-broadcast-map.jpg

 B


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[TV orNotTV] FX Sets Winter Premieres

2013-11-05 Thread Mark Jeffries
The main news here outside of the return dates is that Chozen, the 
animated series from the Floyd County people (Archer) about a white 
rapper is airing on the mothership, not FXX (the Ali G repackage is being 
paired with the mothership moveover Legit on that channel)--Chozen is 
being paired with Archer for a Monday night block (FX's first entry into 
that night) starting Jan. 13, while the first brand new series on FXX may 
not be until next summer or fall:

http://www.thewrap.com/justifed-archer-chozen-get-premiere-dates/

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Re: [TV orNotTV] FCC considering eliminating sports blackout rules

2013-11-05 Thread Steve Timko
Reno was blacked out on 49ers and Raiders games.
Worst part was when there was a killer 49ers or Raiders game on the road
that you absolutely wanted to watch, Reno would get some other crappy game
because the networks are trying to pad the viewers for advertisers stuck
with the game no one wanted to watch.



On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 1:39 PM, Dave Sikula dsik...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Reminds me that a Dodger fan friend of mine who lives in Hawaii is blacked
 out of all West Coast games (Pads, Dodgers, Angels, Giants, A's, and
 Mariners). I assume MLB wants to encourage him to climb onto a plane and
 fly six hours if he wants to see a Dodger broadcast.

 --Dave Sikula


 On Monday, November 4, 2013 7:56:38 PM UTC-8, Bob in Jersey wrote:


 Joe Hass, to Doug Fields, in part:

 The reasonable question to ask of the acting Chairwoman is whether the
 Commission is interested in looking at the situation today with these other
 blackout rules (probably the two most onerous being Fox's Saturday baseball
 blackout rules and MLB's bizarre home market 
 maphttp://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/59/MLB_Blackout_Areas.png
  which
 makes the entire state of Iowa part of the home market of one-fifth of the
 league and extends home market to distances of 500 miles or more) and
 whether they are part of the public interest or if they simply decide
 it's just the free market at work. Hint: if they were really serious,
 they'd just need to utter two words: antitrust exemption.


 I always preferred this more-detailed, and of course larger, version of
 the map linked above:

 http://www.desipio.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/mlb-broadcast-map.jpg

 B


 On Monday, November 4, 2013 7:56:38 PM UTC-8, Bob in Jersey wrote:


 Joe Hass, to Doug Fields, in part:

 The reasonable question to ask of the acting Chairwoman is whether the
 Commission is interested in looking at the situation today with these other
 blackout rules (probably the two most onerous being Fox's Saturday baseball
 blackout rules and MLB's bizarre home market 
 maphttp://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/59/MLB_Blackout_Areas.png
  which
 makes the entire state of Iowa part of the home market of one-fifth of the
 league and extends home market to distances of 500 miles or more) and
 whether they are part of the public interest or if they simply decide
 it's just the free market at work. Hint: if they were really serious,
 they'd just need to utter two words: antitrust exemption.


 I always preferred this more-detailed, and of course larger, version of
 the map linked above:

 http://www.desipio.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/mlb-broadcast-map.jpg

 B

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Re: [TV orNotTV] FCC considering eliminating sports blackout rules

2013-11-05 Thread PGage
On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 12:25 PM, Doug Fields d...@flids.net wrote:

 Nopeā€¦upon further research, it appears I was on the right track after all.




 http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/11/01/us-usa-broadcasting-blackout-idUSBRE9A00ZW20131101


Here is another storty that makes the same point, in somewhat expanded form:
http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/envelope/cotown/la-et-ct-blackout-fcc-nfl-20131104,0,5510670.story#axzz2joqp3Ypn

This has been an unusually confusing story - because FCC Commissioner
Mignon Clyburn was so cryptic in her statement (back when she was acting
chair last week), and because I (and, it seems, many sports fans) were so
fuzzy on what the actual rule has been, and because many of the news
reports were equally fuzzy, and did little to clarify the situation.

The FCC rule prevents cable/satellite providers from circumventing a local
sports blackout. The FCC neither requires local blackouts, nor requires
them to be lifted. Lifting this rule is mostly an issue in the broadcaster
vs cable wars, and has little to do with making sports programing more
accessible to the public.

The Times article notes that:
Blackouts used to be commonplace in the NFL. In 1980, 35% of all games
were blacked out in a team's home market. By 2000, the figure was down to
14%. Last year, only 6% of games were blacked out and this year none have
been blacked out.

I suspect most of the recent blackouts have been Raider games.


I think Doug's original question still stands unanswered: How did the
original rule ever serve the public interest? Similarly, how does getting
rid of the rule serve the public interest?

It seems like the idea is that the rule serves the public interest by
making sure that cable operators do not have an unfair advantage vs over
the air broadcasters; this ensures that sports programing will continue to
be available over the air. Getting rid of the rule serves the public I
suppose because so many fans now have access to cable/satellite that they
do not need over the air, and are hurt by not being able to access distant
feeds of locally blacked out events.

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[TV orNotTV] Re: Finke seeking to get out of her contract...

2013-11-05 Thread Bob in Jersey

...and per her Twitter, she has!

https://twitter.com/NikkiFinke/status/397915526984253440

Deadline confirms:

http://www.deadline.com/2013/11/deadline-com-and-nikki-finke-parting-ways/

Her namesake domain as of this posting still traps to Deadline.

B

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Finke seeking to get out of her contract...

2013-11-05 Thread Kevin M.
Can't Finke just join the panel on The View or America's Got Talent so I
can ignore her like I ignore the rest of the people on those shows?


On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 9:06 PM, Bob in Jersey bob.in.jer...@juno.comwrote:


 ...and per her Twitter, she has!

 https://twitter.com/NikkiFinke/status/397915526984253440

 Deadline confirms:

 http://www.deadline.com/2013/11/deadline-com-and-nikki-finke-parting-ways/

 Her namesake domain as of this posting still traps to Deadline.

 B

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