Re: [TV orNotTV] For Amber Ruffin and NBC Fans

[Steve Timko]

Amber Rluffin's Peacock show renewed through September.
https://deadline.com/2021/03/the-amber-ruffin-show-renewed-peacock-through-september-1234718065/
I liked Larry Wilmore's show more.

On Fri, Feb 26, 2021 at 7:48 AM Tom Wolper  wrote:

> Her Peacock show is getting a two episode airing on NBC tonight and on
> March 6 at 1:30 AM instead of reruns of Lily Singh's show. As the article
> points, while it might make sense to make it permanent - new Ruffin instead
> of Singh reruns - it probably won't happen because affiliates are hostile
> toward Peacock.
>
>
> https://www.vulture.com/2021/02/the-amber-ruffin-show-will-air-on-nbc-for-two-weeks.html
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[TV orNotTV] FOX 11 crew members taken to hospital after SUV crashes into Hollywood building, 3 others hurt

[Steve Timko]

https://www.foxla.com/news/car-slams-into-hollywood-building-injuring-3-including-fox-11-crew-members

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Re: [TV orNotTV] NFL - new TV rights deal

[John Edwards]

That depends on what the NFL’s contract with TSN says. I know NFL Network runs 
alternate programming in Canada during games. 

John 

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> On Mar 19, 2021, at 1:55 PM, Doug Eastick  wrote:
> 
> 
> I'm curious if Thursday night on Amazon is only in USA. Or if it applies 
> in Canada as well.
> 
> 
> 
>> On Thu., Mar. 18, 2021, 5:14 p.m. Adam Bowie,  wrote:
>> I see the new NFL deal has been done:
>> 
>> https://www.nfl.com/news/nfl-announces-new-broadcast-deals-running-through-2033-season
>> 
>> Amazon gets Thursday nights exclusively outside local markets of the two 
>> teams. Everyone else broadly as-is, except that they can put their games on 
>> Peacock, Paramount+ and whatever Fox comes up with.
>> 
>> I don't see any mention of Sunday Ticket though...
>> 
>>> On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 6:59 PM PGage  wrote:
>>> As you say, it will be interesting to see how the calculations come out. 
>>> 
>>> Amazon is the sponsor of The Red Zone, and streams I think both SNL and 
>>> TNF. I think they would find it useful to make The Ticket available at a 
>>> better price than DirectTV did, since they have so many other ways to 
>>> monetize it.
>>> 
>>> 
 On Mon, 15 Feb 2021 at 9:20 AM Adam Bowie  wrote:
 I guess there's a balance to be made, but all the networks are probably 
 thinking more of their streaming services in the mid- to long-term (and 
 probably short-term for Disney), so incurring losses for kudos and/or 
 audience will be interesting to see.
 
 I wouldn't bank on Amazon subsidising sport in any meaningful way. I think 
 the world over, sports leagues are hopeful that the streamers will make up 
 for any flattening of traditional broadcast revenues, but so far they've 
 not really bitten. In the UK, Amazon got the tiniest slither of EPL rights 
 - after again the first round of bidding didn't make the reserve. I know 
 the EPL was hopeful of them (or Netflix) making a splashy entrance to keep 
 prices high. But Amazon has notably bought cheaper rights around the 
 world. The same with Facebook who have picked up a few sports rights in a 
 few locations. 
 
 I can totally see the NFL directly marketing their Sunday Ticket offer via 
 Amazon, but whether Amazon would significantly subsidise that is another 
 question. With Amazon having north of 126m Prime subscribers in the US 
 already, do they really need to incur a big loss to reach the last 
 standout households that aren't already Prime? The counter to that is that 
 if you could only get it with a Prime stick, and not a Roku stick, then 
 Amazon shifts a lot of Roku (and Samsung/Google TV/whoever) households to 
 using their TV interface. Either way, there are said to be only 2m Sunday 
 Ticket subscribers, so not massive numbers. But perhaps that's a factor of 
 Sunday Ticket not being enough on its own to shift a household to a 
 different TV provider.
 
 I bet there's some fascinating number crunching going on at the big 
 networks...
 
 
 
> On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 4:58 PM PGage  wrote:
 
> I used to subscribe to it back in my DirectTV days. The ability to switch 
> to any game is another way to avoid almost all commercials, plus their 
> Red Zone. 
> 
> It is a threat to network ratings though, if 10%-20% of viewers would 
> rather watch out of market games (which, depending on your market, your 
> own games may often suck). When I had the package, even if my local games 
> were of interest, I would flip back to games on the Ticket during 
> commercials, or if they became more compelling.
> 
>> On Mon, 15 Feb 2021 at 8:18 AM Jim Ellwanger  
>> wrote:
>> Aside from two versions of the Red Zone channel (one "regular' and one 
>> focused on fantasy football), NFL Sunday Ticket just presents the 
>> regular Fox and CBS game broadcasts, complete with commercials -- and 
>> blacks out the games that are airing on the viewer's local affiliates. 
>> Presumably that would continue on an Amazon version of Sunday Ticket, 
>> using the viewer's IP address and other info to handle the blackouts. 
>> (DirecTV uses the ZIP code on the subscriber's account.) In theory, 
>> therefore, it's more of a supplement to the network broadcasts, rather 
>> than competition that would draw a lot of viewers away from them.
>> 
 On Feb 15, 2021, at 8:02 AM, PGage  wrote:
 
>> 
>>> This will be interesting. Given how long these deals are, the hike can 
>>> be seen as something like 10% a year for ten years, but that is still 
>>> outrageous given that ratings have been trending down. Still, even at a 
>>> loss the NFL is still probably worth it to the networks. The result 
>>> will be even more ads, in between and during the action. The morons at 
>>> the NFL will not rest until 

Re: [TV orNotTV] NFL - new TV rights deal

[Doug Eastick]

I'm curious if Thursday night on Amazon is only in USA. Or if it
applies in Canada as well.



On Thu., Mar. 18, 2021, 5:14 p.m. Adam Bowie,  wrote:

> I see the new NFL deal has been done:
>
>
> https://www.nfl.com/news/nfl-announces-new-broadcast-deals-running-through-2033-season
>
> Amazon gets Thursday nights exclusively outside local markets of the two
> teams. Everyone else broadly as-is, except that they can put their games on
> Peacock, Paramount+ and whatever Fox comes up with.
>
> I don't see any mention of Sunday Ticket though...
>
> On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 6:59 PM PGage  wrote:
>
>> As you say, it will be interesting to see how the calculations come out.
>>
>> Amazon is the sponsor of The Red Zone, and streams I think both SNL and
>> TNF. I think they would find it useful to make The Ticket available at a
>> better price than DirectTV did, since they have so many other ways to
>> monetize it.
>>
>>
>> On Mon, 15 Feb 2021 at 9:20 AM Adam Bowie  wrote:
>>
>>> I guess there's a balance to be made, but all the networks are probably
>>> thinking more of their streaming services in the mid- to long-term (and
>>> probably short-term for Disney), so incurring losses for kudos and/or
>>> audience will be interesting to see.
>>>
>>> I wouldn't bank on Amazon subsidising sport in any meaningful way. I
>>> think the world over, sports leagues are hopeful that the streamers will
>>> make up for any flattening of traditional broadcast revenues, but so far
>>> they've not really bitten. In the UK, Amazon got the tiniest slither of EPL
>>> rights - after again the first round of bidding didn't make the reserve. I
>>> know the EPL was hopeful of them (or Netflix) making a splashy entrance to
>>> keep prices high. But Amazon has notably bought cheaper rights around the
>>> world. The same with Facebook who have picked up a few sports rights in a
>>> few locations.
>>>
>>> I can totally see the NFL directly marketing their Sunday Ticket offer
>>> via Amazon, but whether Amazon would significantly subsidise that is
>>> another question. With Amazon having north of 126m Prime subscribers in the
>>> US already, do they really need to incur a big loss to reach the last
>>> standout households that aren't already Prime? The counter to that is that
>>> if you could only get it with a Prime stick, and not a Roku stick, then
>>> Amazon shifts a lot of Roku (and Samsung/Google TV/whoever) households to
>>> using their TV interface. Either way, there are said to be only 2m Sunday
>>> Ticket subscribers, so not massive numbers. But perhaps that's a factor of
>>> Sunday Ticket not being enough on its own to shift a household to a
>>> different TV provider.
>>>
>>> I bet there's some fascinating number crunching going on at the big
>>> networks...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 4:58 PM PGage  wrote:
>>>
 I used to subscribe to it back in my DirectTV days. The ability to
 switch to any game is another way to avoid almost all commercials, plus
 their Red Zone.

 It is a threat to network ratings though, if 10%-20% of viewers would
 rather watch out of market games (which, depending on your market, your own
 games may often suck). When I had the package, even if my local games were
 of interest, I would flip back to games on the Ticket during commercials,
 or if they became more compelling.

 On Mon, 15 Feb 2021 at 8:18 AM Jim Ellwanger 
 wrote:

> Aside from two versions of the Red Zone channel (one "regular' and one
> focused on fantasy football), NFL Sunday Ticket just presents the regular
> Fox and CBS game broadcasts, complete with commercials -- and blacks out
> the games that are airing on the viewer's local affiliates. Presumably 
> that
> would continue on an Amazon version of Sunday Ticket, using the viewer's 
> IP
> address and other info to handle the blackouts. (DirecTV uses the ZIP code
> on the subscriber's account.) In theory, therefore, it's more of a
> supplement to the network broadcasts, rather than competition that would
> draw a lot of viewers away from them.
>
> On Feb 15, 2021, at 8:02 AM, PGage  wrote:
>
> This will be interesting. Given how long these deals are, the hike can
> be seen as something like 10% a year for ten years, but that is still
> outrageous given that ratings have been trending down. Still, even at a
> loss the NFL is still probably worth it to the networks. The result will 
> be
> even more ads, in between and during the action. The morons at the NFL 
> will
> not rest until they have made their game completely unwatchable.
>
> Disney is getting hosed, and NBC has the best deal. If I were Disney I
> would be insisting on ways to get better games
>
> I will be most interested into what happens with the Sunday Ticket
> package. If they partner with Amazon and make the price to the consumer
> reasonable 

Re: [TV orNotTV] Early leader to replace Rush Limbaugh

[Mark Jeffries]

Limbaugh was in almost as many markets as he's been for many years.  Enough
that he continued to refuse to go on SiriusXM, to the joy of his stations.

It should be pointed that Bongino is not syndicated by iHeart's Premiere
Radio Networks (the real "EIB Network"), but Cumulus-owned Westwood One.
Which means that he'll be on WLS in Chicago (with Limbaugh, the only day
part where the once-legendary"Big 89" was in the Top 10 of the ratings),
KABC in LA and Cumulus' other rightwing talk stations.  (In NY El Rushbo
moved from WABC to iHeart's WOR some years ago--iHeart hasn't officially
announced his replacement.  And 77's now owned by an NY supermarket owner
and dabbler in rightwing politics who has received the most publicity from
a Saturday night oldies block with the legendary Cousin Brucie, Tony
Orlando of "and Dawn" and--Joe Piscopo.)

The problem for all concerned is that AM talk radio audiences are dying off
with little or no chance of replacement.  The Proud Boys and the other
alt-righties are spending more time on podcasts and YouTube videos than
they are talk radio or Fox News or Newsmax or OAN.

Mark Jeffries
spotligh...@gmail.com


On Thu, Mar 18, 2021 at 7:55 PM Kevin M.  wrote:

> Wasn’t Rush was off the air in most markets for the last several years? I
> assumed the EIB network died with him... or maybe it was wishful thinking?
>
> On Thu, Mar 18, 2021 at 5:26 PM Steve Timko  wrote:
>
>> I don't recall having listened to Dan Bongino, but he's likely been on a
>> talk show I've watched.
>>
>> https://www.foxnews.com/media/dan-bongino-rush-limbaugh-radio-time-slot
>>
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Pete Davidson stalker arrested

[Kevin M.]

Stalking is weird under any circumstances, but stalking someone with no
discernible talent who is quite well known as an a-hole? Time for a new
hobby

On Fri, Mar 19, 2021 at 8:03 AM 'Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV <
tvornottv@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> " Michelle Mootreddy, 24, was arrested around 3:30 p.m. (Thursday). She
> was charged with stalking, harassment, criminal trespassing and
> trespassing, police told *THR*.  "
>
>
> https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/woman-charged-with-trespassing-stalking-pete-davidson
>  (link)
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Re: [TV orNotTV] "Behind the Music" returning later this year

[Kevin M.]

They already did a Huey Lewis Behind the Music. He talked about the
settlement for Ray Parker Jr for stealing his music, which violated the
terms of the settlement, which made Lewis have to give back all his money.

PS- There were a few good tracks on the album Huey Lewis released last
year, probably his last due to his hearing loss

On Fri, Mar 19, 2021 at 8:48 AM Mark Jeffries  wrote:

> VH1.  During their "Music First" days.
>
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> spotligh...@gmail.com
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>
> On Fri, Mar 19, 2021 at 9:23 AM 'Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV <
> tvornottv@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>> Not on MTV, but Paramount+ (of course...); new episodes have been filmed
>> with Jennifer Lopez, LL Cool J, Ricky Martin, and Huey Lewis...
>>
>>
>> https://www.nme.com/news/tv/mtv-to-reboot-classic-docuseries-behind-the-music-2902634
>>  (link)
>>
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Re: [TV orNotTV] "Behind the Music" returning later this year

[Mark Jeffries]

VH1.  During their "Music First" days.

Mark Jeffries
spotligh...@gmail.com


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tvornottv@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Not on MTV, but Paramount+ (of course...); new episodes have been filmed
> with Jennifer Lopez, LL Cool J, Ricky Martin, and Huey Lewis...
>
>
> https://www.nme.com/news/tv/mtv-to-reboot-classic-docuseries-behind-the-music-2902634
>  (link)
>
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[TV orNotTV] Pete Davidson stalker arrested

['Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV]

" Michelle Mootreddy, 24, was arrested around 3:30 p.m. (Thursday). She was 
charged with stalking, harassment, criminal trespassing and trespassing, 
police told *THR*.  "

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/woman-charged-with-trespassing-stalking-pete-davidson
 (link)

B

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Early leader to replace Rush Limbaugh

[Tom Wolper]

On Thu, Mar 18, 2021 at 8:26 PM Steve Timko  wrote:

> I don't recall having listened to Dan Bongino, but he's likely been on a
> talk show I've watched.
>
> https://www.foxnews.com/media/dan-bongino-rush-limbaugh-radio-time-slot
>

I remember when David Lee Roth got Howard Stern's slot when Stern went to
SiriusXM.

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[TV orNotTV] "Behind the Music" returning later this year

['Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV]

Not on MTV, but Paramount+ (of course...); new episodes have been filmed 
with Jennifer Lopez, LL Cool J, Ricky Martin, and Huey Lewis...

https://www.nme.com/news/tv/mtv-to-reboot-classic-docuseries-behind-the-music-2902634
 (link)

B

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