That depends on what the NFL’s contract with TSN says. I know NFL Network runs alternate programming in Canada during games.
John Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 19, 2021, at 1:55 PM, Doug Eastick <[email protected]> wrote: > > > I'm curious if Thursday night on Amazon is only in USA. Or if it applies > in Canada as well. > > > >> On Thu., Mar. 18, 2021, 5:14 p.m. Adam Bowie, <[email protected]> wrote: >> I see the new NFL deal has been done: >> >> https://www.nfl.com/news/nfl-announces-new-broadcast-deals-running-through-2033-season >> >> Amazon gets Thursday nights exclusively outside local markets of the two >> teams. Everyone else broadly as-is, except that they can put their games on >> Peacock, Paramount+ and whatever Fox comes up with. >> >> I don't see any mention of Sunday Ticket though... >> >>> On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 6:59 PM PGage <[email protected]> wrote: >>> As you say, it will be interesting to see how the calculations come out. >>> >>> Amazon is the sponsor of The Red Zone, and streams I think both SNL and >>> TNF. I think they would find it useful to make The Ticket available at a >>> better price than DirectTV did, since they have so many other ways to >>> monetize it. >>> >>> >>>> On Mon, 15 Feb 2021 at 9:20 AM Adam Bowie <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> I guess there's a balance to be made, but all the networks are probably >>>> thinking more of their streaming services in the mid- to long-term (and >>>> probably short-term for Disney), so incurring losses for kudos and/or >>>> audience will be interesting to see. >>>> >>>> I wouldn't bank on Amazon subsidising sport in any meaningful way. I think >>>> the world over, sports leagues are hopeful that the streamers will make up >>>> for any flattening of traditional broadcast revenues, but so far they've >>>> not really bitten. In the UK, Amazon got the tiniest slither of EPL rights >>>> - after again the first round of bidding didn't make the reserve. I know >>>> the EPL was hopeful of them (or Netflix) making a splashy entrance to keep >>>> prices high. But Amazon has notably bought cheaper rights around the >>>> world. The same with Facebook who have picked up a few sports rights in a >>>> few locations. >>>> >>>> I can totally see the NFL directly marketing their Sunday Ticket offer via >>>> Amazon, but whether Amazon would significantly subsidise that is another >>>> question. With Amazon having north of 126m Prime subscribers in the US >>>> already, do they really need to incur a big loss to reach the last >>>> standout households that aren't already Prime? The counter to that is that >>>> if you could only get it with a Prime stick, and not a Roku stick, then >>>> Amazon shifts a lot of Roku (and Samsung/Google TV/whoever) households to >>>> using their TV interface. Either way, there are said to be only 2m Sunday >>>> Ticket subscribers, so not massive numbers. But perhaps that's a factor of >>>> Sunday Ticket not being enough on its own to shift a household to a >>>> different TV provider. >>>> >>>> I bet there's some fascinating number crunching going on at the big >>>> networks... >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 4:58 PM PGage <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I used to subscribe to it back in my DirectTV days. The ability to switch >>>>> to any game is another way to avoid almost all commercials, plus their >>>>> Red Zone. >>>>> >>>>> It is a threat to network ratings though, if 10%-20% of viewers would >>>>> rather watch out of market games (which, depending on your market, your >>>>> own games may often suck). When I had the package, even if my local games >>>>> were of interest, I would flip back to games on the Ticket during >>>>> commercials, or if they became more compelling. >>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, 15 Feb 2021 at 8:18 AM Jim Ellwanger <[email protected]> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> Aside from two versions of the Red Zone channel (one "regular' and one >>>>>> focused on fantasy football), NFL Sunday Ticket just presents the >>>>>> regular Fox and CBS game broadcasts, complete with commercials -- and >>>>>> blacks out the games that are airing on the viewer's local affiliates. >>>>>> Presumably that would continue on an Amazon version of Sunday Ticket, >>>>>> using the viewer's IP address and other info to handle the blackouts. >>>>>> (DirecTV uses the ZIP code on the subscriber's account.) In theory, >>>>>> therefore, it's more of a supplement to the network broadcasts, rather >>>>>> than competition that would draw a lot of viewers away from them. >>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Feb 15, 2021, at 8:02 AM, PGage <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> This will be interesting. Given how long these deals are, the hike can >>>>>>> be seen as something like 10% a year for ten years, but that is still >>>>>>> outrageous given that ratings have been trending down. Still, even at a >>>>>>> loss the NFL is still probably worth it to the networks. The result >>>>>>> will be even more ads, in between and during the action. The morons at >>>>>>> the NFL will not rest until they have made their game completely >>>>>>> unwatchable. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Disney is getting hosed, and NBC has the best deal. If I were Disney I >>>>>>> would be insisting on ways to get better games >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I will be most interested into what happens with the Sunday Ticket >>>>>>> package. If they partner with Amazon and make the price to the consumer >>>>>>> reasonable (which Amazon may be willing to subsidize to drive more >>>>>>> users to Prime and its overall service, it could be another nail in the >>>>>>> networks coffins. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Mon, 15 Feb 2021 at 4:31 AM Adam Bowie <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> I thought this Variety piece on the upcoming network renegotiation of >>>>>>>> NFL rights was interesting. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> https://variety.com/2021/tv/news/nfl-tv-rights-1234907305/ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> It seems that the NFL is seeking to double the rights fees paid last >>>>>>>> time around. But those deals were done about ten years ago now. >>>>>>>> Obviously the vast audiences these games still command - particular >>>>>>>> getting hard-to-reach men, makes them valuable. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On the other hand, the piece concedes: "The networks were already >>>>>>>> having trouble turning a profit on NFL games; there’s no doubt that >>>>>>>> anything close to a doubling of those fees would make that even harder >>>>>>>> if not impossible." >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The outcome will be interesting. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> As a keen watcher of sports rights, I note that around the world, >>>>>>>> sports leagues have found the current climate harder to monetise than >>>>>>>> previously. In both Italy and France recently, the main football >>>>>>>> (soccer) TV rights auctions did not make the reserves the leagues had >>>>>>>> set. In both cases, they're now facing significant drop-offs in >>>>>>>> revenues. In the UK, the last round of EPL rights, which are sold >>>>>>>> every three years domestically, were basically flat in revenue terms. >>>>>>>> (France is fascinating - the main rightsholder, a new player, >>>>>>>> basically bailed on the deal mid-season. The rights were re-auctioned, >>>>>>>> but the long-term previous incumbent, Canal+, declined to bid. Now the >>>>>>>> entire French game is in a state of flux. 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