Re: [TV orNotTV] RIP Tom Shales

2024-01-13 Thread Tom Wolper 
I remember reading him in the Washington Post decades ago when I lived in
the DC area. He took TV seriously as a cultural force and not just mindless
entertainment.

On Sat, Jan 13, 2024 at 8:37 PM Kevin M.  wrote:

> It’s been years since I even heard his name. As I recall, he tried to use
> television criticism as a form of social criticism, but he didn’t seem to
> like television (or society) very much.
>
> Kevin M. (RPCV)
>
>
> On Sat, Jan 13, 2024 at 5:25 PM 'David Bruggeman' via TVorNotTV <
> tvornottv@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>> Presumably Craig T. Nelson was unavailable for comment.
>>
>> David
>>
>> On Saturday, January 13, 2024 at 03:18:34 PM PST, PGage 
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>> He was a high impact writer, on television, and in the earlier years of
>> this list. His books were interesting, but also infuriating. My problem
>> with him was not so much that I frequently disagreed with him, but that he
>> often seemed like the stereotype of a critic who cared more about his own
>> ego and rhetorical turns of phrase than he did about the work he was
>> writing about.
>>
>> Sent from Gmail Mobile
>>
>>
>> On Sat, 13 Jan 2024 at 1:01 PM Mark Jeffries 
>> wrote:
>>
>> His Post obit:
>>
>> https://wapo.st/4aT2Pvr
>>
>> Mark Jeffries
>> spotligh...@gmail.com
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Jan 13, 2024 at 2:41 PM Melissa P 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Longtime *Washington Post* TV critic
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: 'After Midnight' Finally Premiering--POINTS!

2024-01-13 Thread Dave Sikula 
 If the sample game Colbert played is any indication, there will be no jokes, 
so the work will be that much harder.
--Dave Sikula

On Saturday, January 13, 2024 at 05:36:33 PM PST, 'David Bruggeman' via 
TVorNotTV  wrote:  
 
  They don't even have a clip of the show on its Paramount + or Facebook pages.
I have my expectations set about as low as they were for the Hardwick edition, 
so I'll probably like it.  My only concern is whether it can really fill an 
hour.  The show seemed to work best with a high joke volume, and that takes a 
lot of work.
Best,David

On Saturday, January 13, 2024 at 01:53:45 PM PST, Jeff Metzner 
 wrote:  
 
 I was surprised they didn't have a clip of the show on Colbert. I know they 
probably won't film the premiere until the day of or the day before, but surely 
they must have made some test shows?
Anyway, I also set a Season Pass. I wonder what percentage of current TiVo 
owners are in this thread?

On Friday, January 12, 2024 at 7:38:38 PM UTC-5 Doug Eastick wrote:

I just watched her interview too.  Meh.I have low expectations for anything 
after 1130pm.
I have set a TiVo Season Pass.

/Doug 
eas...@mcd.on.ca
On Fri, Jan 12, 2024, 19:18 'Dave Sikula' via TVorNotTV 
 wrote:

Just watched "comedy superstar" Tomlinson's appearance with Colbert last week, 
and my initial impression is that she's unfunny and bland enough that she won't 
distract from the guests. 
I had expected gameplay similar to the original version ("Points!"), but the 
examples she provided Colbert indicate that Tuesday will be a one-off for me. 
The bar for success is low here, but it looked like it'll be awful (though 
still better than Byron Allen).
--Dave Sikula

On Thursday, January 4, 2024 at 2:13:10 PM UTC-8 Mark Jeffries wrote:

The CBS reboot of "@midnight" hosted by Taylor Tomlinson finally debuts on Jan. 
16 (or technically Jan. 17) after Colbert at 12:37 a.m. ET--We assume either 
the affiliates will take over at 1:07 a.m. or the Eye will keep repeating 
"Comics Unleashed" at that time:
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/after-midnight-premiere-date-cbs-1235779286/#recipient_hashed=04cc8432e89af1614e2b95d666f830a827568c45d7e9abbbd46ed84bf99ddfc7_salt=f8f1afe78c2d990c75c3121d1fa116315cbb1eda09b65c89df333468970da653






  

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Re: [TV orNotTV] RIP Tom Shales

2024-01-13 Thread Kevin M. 
It’s been years since I even heard his name. As I recall, he tried to use
television criticism as a form of social criticism, but he didn’t seem to
like television (or society) very much.

Kevin M. (RPCV)


On Sat, Jan 13, 2024 at 5:25 PM 'David Bruggeman' via TVorNotTV <
tvornottv@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Presumably Craig T. Nelson was unavailable for comment.
>
> David
>
> On Saturday, January 13, 2024 at 03:18:34 PM PST, PGage 
> wrote:
>
>
> He was a high impact writer, on television, and in the earlier years of
> this list. His books were interesting, but also infuriating. My problem
> with him was not so much that I frequently disagreed with him, but that he
> often seemed like the stereotype of a critic who cared more about his own
> ego and rhetorical turns of phrase than he did about the work he was
> writing about.
>
> Sent from Gmail Mobile
>
>
> On Sat, 13 Jan 2024 at 1:01 PM Mark Jeffries 
> wrote:
>
> His Post obit:
>
> https://wapo.st/4aT2Pvr
>
> Mark Jeffries
> spotligh...@gmail.com
>
>
> On Sat, Jan 13, 2024 at 2:41 PM Melissa P 
> wrote:
>
> Longtime *Washington Post* TV critic
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: 'After Midnight' Finally Premiering--POINTS!

2024-01-13 Thread 'David Bruggeman' via TVorNotTV 
 They don't even have a clip of the show on its Paramount + or Facebook pages.
I have my expectations set about as low as they were for the Hardwick edition, 
so I'll probably like it.  My only concern is whether it can really fill an 
hour.  The show seemed to work best with a high joke volume, and that takes a 
lot of work.
Best,David

On Saturday, January 13, 2024 at 01:53:45 PM PST, Jeff Metzner 
 wrote:  
 
 I was surprised they didn't have a clip of the show on Colbert. I know they 
probably won't film the premiere until the day of or the day before, but surely 
they must have made some test shows?
Anyway, I also set a Season Pass. I wonder what percentage of current TiVo 
owners are in this thread?

On Friday, January 12, 2024 at 7:38:38 PM UTC-5 Doug Eastick wrote:

I just watched her interview too.  Meh.I have low expectations for anything 
after 1130pm.
I have set a TiVo Season Pass.

/Doug 
eas...@mcd.on.ca
On Fri, Jan 12, 2024, 19:18 'Dave Sikula' via TVorNotTV 
 wrote:

Just watched "comedy superstar" Tomlinson's appearance with Colbert last week, 
and my initial impression is that she's unfunny and bland enough that she won't 
distract from the guests. 
I had expected gameplay similar to the original version ("Points!"), but the 
examples she provided Colbert indicate that Tuesday will be a one-off for me. 
The bar for success is low here, but it looked like it'll be awful (though 
still better than Byron Allen).
--Dave Sikula

On Thursday, January 4, 2024 at 2:13:10 PM UTC-8 Mark Jeffries wrote:

The CBS reboot of "@midnight" hosted by Taylor Tomlinson finally debuts on Jan. 
16 (or technically Jan. 17) after Colbert at 12:37 a.m. ET--We assume either 
the affiliates will take over at 1:07 a.m. or the Eye will keep repeating 
"Comics Unleashed" at that time:
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/after-midnight-premiere-date-cbs-1235779286/#recipient_hashed=04cc8432e89af1614e2b95d666f830a827568c45d7e9abbbd46ed84bf99ddfc7_salt=f8f1afe78c2d990c75c3121d1fa116315cbb1eda09b65c89df333468970da653






  

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Re: [TV orNotTV] RIP Tom Shales

2024-01-13 Thread 'David Bruggeman' via TVorNotTV 
 Presumably Craig T. Nelson was unavailable for comment.
David

On Saturday, January 13, 2024 at 03:18:34 PM PST, PGage  
wrote:  
 
 He was a high impact writer, on television, and in the earlier years of this 
list. His books were interesting, but also infuriating. My problem with him was 
not so much that I frequently disagreed with him, but that he often seemed like 
the stereotype of a critic who cared more about his own ego and rhetorical 
turns of phrase than he did about the work he was writing about. 

Sent from Gmail Mobile

On Sat, 13 Jan 2024 at 1:01 PM Mark Jeffries  wrote:

His Post obit:
https://wapo.st/4aT2Pvr
Mark Jeffries
spotligh...@gmail.com

On Sat, Jan 13, 2024 at 2:41 PM Melissa P  wrote:

Longtime Washington Post TV critic




  

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Re: [TV orNotTV] RIP Tom Shales

2024-01-13 Thread PGage 
He was a high impact writer, on television, and in the earlier years of
this list. His books were interesting, but also infuriating. My problem
with him was not so much that I frequently disagreed with him, but that he
often seemed like the stereotype of a critic who cared more about his own
ego and rhetorical turns of phrase than he did about the work he was
writing about.

Sent from Gmail Mobile


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> His Post obit:
>
> https://wapo.st/4aT2Pvr
>
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> spotligh...@gmail.com
>
>
> On Sat, Jan 13, 2024 at 2:41 PM Melissa P 
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: 'After Midnight' Finally Premiering--POINTS!

2024-01-13 Thread Jeff Metzner 
I was surprised they didn't have a clip of the show on Colbert. I know they 
probably won't film the premiere until the day of or the day before, but 
surely they must have made some test shows?

Anyway, I also set a Season Pass. I wonder what percentage of current TiVo 
owners are in this thread?

On Friday, January 12, 2024 at 7:38:38 PM UTC-5 Doug Eastick wrote:

> I just watched her interview too.  Meh.
> I have low expectations for anything after 1130pm.
>
> I have set a TiVo Season Pass.
>
>
> /Doug 
> eas...@mcd.on.ca
>
> On Fri, Jan 12, 2024, 19:18 'Dave Sikula' via TVorNotTV <
> tvor...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>> Just watched "comedy superstar" Tomlinson's appearance with Colbert last 
>> week, and my initial impression is that she's unfunny and bland enough that 
>> she won't distract from the guests. 
>>
>> I had expected gameplay similar to the original version ("Points!"), but 
>> the examples she provided Colbert indicate that Tuesday will be a one-off 
>> for me. The bar for success is low here, but it looked like it'll be awful 
>> (though still better than Byron Allen).
>>
>> --Dave Sikula
>>
>> On Thursday, January 4, 2024 at 2:13:10 PM UTC-8 Mark Jeffries wrote:
>>
>>> The CBS reboot of "@midnight" hosted by Taylor Tomlinson finally debuts 
>>> on Jan. 16 (or technically Jan. 17) after Colbert at 12:37 a.m. ET--We 
>>> assume either the affiliates will take over at 1:07 a.m. or the Eye will 
>>> keep repeating "Comics Unleashed" at that time:
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/after-midnight-premiere-date-cbs-1235779286/#recipient_hashed=04cc8432e89af1614e2b95d666f830a827568c45d7e9abbbd46ed84bf99ddfc7_salt=f8f1afe78c2d990c75c3121d1fa116315cbb1eda09b65c89df333468970da653
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Re: [TV orNotTV] RIP Tom Shales

2024-01-13 Thread Mark Jeffries 
His Post obit:

https://wapo.st/4aT2Pvr

Mark Jeffries
spotligh...@gmail.com


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[TV orNotTV] RIP Tom Shales

2024-01-13 Thread Melissa P 
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: NFL Post-Season Flex

2024-01-13 Thread Tom Wolper 
Buffalo wants to keep the roads clear for snow plows and emergency
vehicles. Pittsburgh is a 3 hour drive away who knows how many fans got
secondary market tickets and are driving up.

I’ve sat through several Steelers games in single digit temperatures. By
the second half I just want the game to end and I don’t care who wins. One
game I went to the men’s room and it was packed with men getting away from
the wind and listening to the radio feed on speakers.

On Sat, Jan 13, 2024 at 2:06 PM Mark Jeffries  wrote:

> But Tay-Tay will be there.
>
> The game itself is on Peacock. NBC is airing another playoff game and is
> scheduled to run a "Wild Card Playoff Special" at 8 tonight before the game
> at 8:30 ET. (The game will be live on WTVJ in Miami and KSHB in KC.) I am
> guessing once every minute that the host will be saying "the only way to
> see this game is on Peacock--if you don't have Peacock, go to
> peacocktv.com and sign up now and you'll see tonight's game!"
>
> Meanwhile, NBC will be offering instead of the game at 8:30 a "Super
> Special Preview" of "Deal or No Deal Island," followed by a repeat of
> Monday's "AGT Dream League." If you want an "SNL" repeat, wait until 11:30.
>
> Mark Jeffries
> spotligh...@gmail.com
>
>
> On Sat, Jan 13, 2024 at 12:35 PM Marti Lawrence 
> wrote:
>
>> The playoff game here in Kansas City is going on as scheduled this
>> evening, despite the snow and record cold temperatures expected during game
>> time.
>> We don't have much accumulation though, and the stadium has been
>> preparing by adding "warming stations" throughout the interior and parking
>> lot of Arrowhead.
>>
>> ~Marti
>>
>> On Saturday, January 13, 2024 at 12:19:47 PM UTC-6 Ben Scripps wrote:
>>
>>> Sunday's Steelers at Buffalo game gets delayed to Monday at 4:30 (CBS)
>>> thanks to the massive winter storm pummeling the region:
>>>
>>> https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2024/jan/13/pittsburgh-steelers-buffalo-bills-game-postponed-winter-storm
>>>
>>> (Here in Michigan, we're still digging out from a foot of snow
>>> overnight, with 50+ mph winds and more snow predicted for later today.)
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: NFL Post-Season Flex

2024-01-13 Thread Mark Jeffries 
But Tay-Tay will be there.

The game itself is on Peacock. NBC is airing another playoff game and is
scheduled to run a "Wild Card Playoff Special" at 8 tonight before the game
at 8:30 ET. (The game will be live on WTVJ in Miami and KSHB in KC.) I am
guessing once every minute that the host will be saying "the only way to
see this game is on Peacock--if you don't have Peacock, go to peacocktv.com
and sign up now and you'll see tonight's game!"

Meanwhile, NBC will be offering instead of the game at 8:30 a "Super
Special Preview" of "Deal or No Deal Island," followed by a repeat of
Monday's "AGT Dream League." If you want an "SNL" repeat, wait until 11:30.

Mark Jeffries
spotligh...@gmail.com


On Sat, Jan 13, 2024 at 12:35 PM Marti Lawrence 
wrote:

> The playoff game here in Kansas City is going on as scheduled this
> evening, despite the snow and record cold temperatures expected during game
> time.
> We don't have much accumulation though, and the stadium has been preparing
> by adding "warming stations" throughout the interior and parking lot of
> Arrowhead.
>
> ~Marti
>
> On Saturday, January 13, 2024 at 12:19:47 PM UTC-6 Ben Scripps wrote:
>
>> Sunday's Steelers at Buffalo game gets delayed to Monday at 4:30 (CBS)
>> thanks to the massive winter storm pummeling the region:
>>
>> https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2024/jan/13/pittsburgh-steelers-buffalo-bills-game-postponed-winter-storm
>>
>> (Here in Michigan, we're still digging out from a foot of snow overnight,
>> with 50+ mph winds and more snow predicted for later today.)
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[TV orNotTV] Re: NFL Post-Season Flex

2024-01-13 Thread Marti Lawrence 
The playoff game here in Kansas City is going on as scheduled this evening, 
despite the snow and record cold temperatures expected during game time. 
We don't have much accumulation though, and the stadium has been preparing 
by adding "warming stations" throughout the interior and parking lot of 
Arrowhead.

~Marti

On Saturday, January 13, 2024 at 12:19:47 PM UTC-6 Ben Scripps wrote:

> Sunday's Steelers at Buffalo game gets delayed to Monday at 4:30 (CBS) 
> thanks to the massive winter storm pummeling the region:
>
> https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2024/jan/13/pittsburgh-steelers-buffalo-bills-game-postponed-winter-storm
>
> (Here in Michigan, we're still digging out from a foot of snow overnight, 
> with 50+ mph winds and more snow predicted for later today.)
>
>

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[TV orNotTV] Re: Chase presides over 25th-anny Sopranos reunion at Little Italy spot

2024-01-13 Thread Marti Lawrence 
I sure felt old when I watched Jeopardy yesterday, and the clue was 
something about Adrianna meeting her fate in the episode, "Long Term 
Parking." I shouted out the answer immediately, but NONE of the contestants 
knew it. 

~Marti

On Friday, January 12, 2024 at 11:06:25 AM UTC-6 Bob Jersey wrote:

> Not too many alums arrived, although Buscemi and "P*ssy" did... you'd 
> hardly recognize the latter...
>
> https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/11/style/sopranos-25th-anniversary-reunion.html?unlocked_article_code=1.NE0.rrE5.IVK9cNkBEJjx=url-share
>  (link)
> B
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[TV orNotTV] NFL Post-Season Flex

2024-01-13 Thread Ben Scripps 
Sunday's Steelers at Buffalo game gets delayed to Monday at 4:30 (CBS) thanks 
to the massive winter storm pummeling the region:
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2024/jan/13/pittsburgh-steelers-buffalo-bills-game-postponed-winter-storm
 


(Here in Michigan, we're still digging out from a foot of snow overnight, with 
50+ mph winds and more snow predicted for later today.)

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[TV orNotTV] RIP Bill Hayes

2024-01-13 Thread Kevin M. 
Played Doug Williams, aka Hope’s dad, for over 50 years on Days of Our
Lives. He and his wife Susan were as delightful off screen as they were on
screen. When I was an NBC page, he and a few others set the tone of
professionalism to be followed by the rest of the (younger) cast: keep it
light, but do it right. He was 98.

https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-67967665.amp


Kevin M. (RPCV)

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[TV orNotTV] Re: Young Sheldon spinoff to feature Georgie and Mandy

2024-01-13 Thread Marti Lawrence 
We enjoyed Big Bang Theory, and are fond of Young Sheldon, although I think 
it is time to end it, as Sheldon is becoming annoying.  The peripheral 
family characters are OK as a part of the whole, but I don't see them 
carrying a sitcom.  I don't dislike them, I just don't think they are 
interesting enough to be leads. 
I could be way wrong though.  
Guess we'll see.

~Marti

On Friday, January 12, 2024 at 4:51:01 PM UTC-6 Bob Jersey wrote:

> Speaking of Chuck Lorre, V honored him with the inaugural Norman Lear 
> Award at their Showrunners Dinner last night (1/11)...
>
> https://variety.com/2024/tv/news/varietys-showrunners-dinner-chuck-lorre-norman-lear-award-1235870281/
>  (link)
> B
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[TV orNotTV] NoTV: Veteran BBC DJ DIes at 83

2024-01-13 Thread Mark Jeffries 
Annie Nightingale was the first woman DJ hired by BBC Radio 1 in 1970--her 
last program was on this past Dec. 19--working at night allowed her not to 
follow a playlist but follow her heart, supporting punk and new wave in the 
70s and techno music for many years thereafter--on television, she was also 
a host of the long-running BBC2 music show "The Old Grey Whistle Test"--she 
died Thursday at her London home after a short illness:

https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-67955757

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[TV orNotTV] Hi Cillian!--'Oppenheimer' Comes to Peacock Feb. 16

2024-01-13 Thread Mark Jeffries 
Just in time for Oscar voting--the other end of Barbenheimer is already on 
Max--Hi Margot! Hi Greta!:

https://www.thewrap.com/oppenheimer-streaming-release-date-peacock/

Peacock will also be adding most of Christopher Nolan's other films to 
their lineup in February. Maybe Max should try to pick up "Lady Bird" and 
"LIttle Women."

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Re: [TV orNotTV] CW unveils new branding

2024-01-13 Thread Mark Jeffries 
And the CDub has added "The Conners" reruns to the lineup, but running it
once a week.  There have to be people at ABC who just want to wring Tom
Werner's neck for this deal, because it makes it look like the show moved
first-run to CW when it didn't.

Mark Jeffries
spotligh...@gmail.com


On Fri, Jan 12, 2024 at 4:58 PM Kevin M.  wrote:

> They are literally giving their programming the hook
>
> Kevin M. (RPCV)
>
>
> On Fri, Jan 12, 2024 at 2:45 PM 'Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV <
> tvornottv@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>> The "The" will be partly dropped by controlling owner Nexstar, and the
>> logo will look thicker and change to a hot color...
>> https://variety.com/2024/tv/news/the-cw-new-branding-logo-look-critics-choice-awards-1235870260/
>>  (link)
>> B
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[TV orNotTV] COB visits the Late Late Show

2024-01-13 Thread 'David Bruggeman' via TVorNotTV 
The one that's still around, on Irish TV.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kb1g014bYIM
Best,David

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