Re: [TV orNotTV] ESPN declares war on its biggest talent, becomes less credible than Fox News

2014-09-26 Thread Joe Hass
Here, in a nutshell, is something that I have hated about the Internet from
the moment I learned about Web analytics.

Once you click on something, somewhere, a server notes that you loaded that
page. It will note how long you read that page (assuming you go to another
page). What it does not record is that you feel that the page is such a
piece of crap that you regret clicking on it, and can't unring the bell of
clicking on that page.

The content on that page brought that thought to my forefront.

On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 6:04 PM, Brad Beam b.b...@suddenlink.net wrote:

 *From:* tvornottv@googlegroups.com [mailto:tvornottv@googlegroups.com]

 **I'm kind of hoping Simmons waits a bit, just because tonight's South
 Park is going to tackle that team name issue, and said team is playing
 Thursday Night Football tomorrow.



 All this after Mr Simmons was named in USA TODAY’s “For The Win” blog as
 the 5th-most irrationally loved person in sports, two spots behind that
 guy from the Yankees.


 http://ftw.usatoday.com/2014/09/irrationally-loved-athletes-derek-jeter-michael-jordan-kobe-bryant-wayne-gretzky
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Re: [TV orNotTV] ESPN declares war on its biggest talent, becomes less credible than Fox News

2014-09-26 Thread Joe Hass
And now ESPN's Ombudsman* has weighed in that he thinks the suspension is
appropriate. Here's the lead:

Roger Goodell is the sports world’s villain du jour, but until the NFL’s
 elevator of investigation reaches the top -- or ESPN delivers a smoking gun
 that proves when the NFL viewed the Ray Rice video -- the commissioner is
 not a certified liar.

 And Bill Simmons has no license to call him one without more justification
 than “I’m just saying it.”


Once again: this occurred during a *podcast*. Not during a news program.
Not during anything that even looks like a news program. A *podcast*. And
by someone that no one has ever, *ever* suggested is a part of ESPN's
news-gathering operation.

Appropriate, obvious Simpsons quote:

Kirk: Ah, welcome back, Homer. I see you've finally hit rock bottom.
Homer: Pffft. Not a chance! I can sink way lower.

http://espn.go.com/blog/ombudsman/post/_/id/462/strengths-weaknesses-and-suspensions

* The quotes are deliberate after an incident where he asked questions of
ESPN management, was told they wouldn't talk to him, and accepted this as
an appropriate response.

On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 7:17 PM, 'Greg Diener' via TVorNotTV 
tvornottv@googlegroups.com wrote:

 Deadspin has the podcast that got Simmons suspended.


 http://deadspin.com/espn-suspends-bill-simmons-three-weeks-over-goodell-cri-1638842937/1638878506/+kevindraper

 Greg

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Re: [TV orNotTV] ESPN declares war on its biggest talent, becomes less credible than Fox News

2014-09-25 Thread 'David Bruggeman' via TVorNotTV
Apparently the podcast in question is now no longer online.


I'm kind of hoping Simmons waits a bit, just because tonight's South Park is 
going to tackle that team name issue, and said team is playing Thursday Night 
Football tomorrow.

What can I say, it's a rare time when coverage of football provides a rare spot 
of amusement for me that I can't find in the game.

Besides, if Simmons does plan to walk, how Grantland fares under such a 
departure is probably something that takes a bit of time to noodle through.

David




 From: Joe Hass hassgoc...@gmail.com
To: tvornottv@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2014 8:31 PM
Subject: [TV orNotTV] ESPN declares war on its biggest talent, becomes less 
credible than Fox News
 


In one fell swoop, the network shows it's completely in the pocket of the NFL, 
loses every inch of credibility it has, and effectively dares Bill Simmons to 
walk.
http://deadspin.com/espn-suspends-bill-simmons-three-weeks-over-goodell-cri-1638842937
And I'm sure Olbermann is just warming up for tomorrow afternoon's broadcast.
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RE: [TV orNotTV] ESPN declares war on its biggest talent, becomes less credible than Fox News

2014-09-25 Thread Brad Beam
From: tvornottv@googlegroups.com [mailto:tvornottv@googlegroups.com] 


I'm kind of hoping Simmons waits a bit, just because tonight's South Park
is going to tackle that team name issue, and said team is playing Thursday
Night Football tomorrow.
 
All this after Mr Simmons was named in USA TODAY's For The Win blog as the
5th-most irrationally loved person in sports, two spots behind that guy from
the Yankees.
http://ftw.usatoday.com/2014/09/irrationally-loved-athletes-derek-jeter-mich
ael-jordan-kobe-bryant-wayne-gretzky
 
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Re: [TV orNotTV] ESPN declares war on its biggest talent, becomes less credible than Fox News

2014-09-25 Thread 'Greg Diener' via TVorNotTV
Deadspin has the podcast that got Simmons suspended.

http://deadspin.com/espn-suspends-bill-simmons-three-weeks-over-goodell-cri-1638842937/1638878506/+kevindraper

Greg

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[TV orNotTV] ESPN declares war on its biggest talent, becomes less credible than Fox News

2014-09-24 Thread Joe Hass
In one fell swoop, the network shows it's completely in the pocket of the
NFL, loses every inch of credibility it has, and effectively dares Bill
Simmons to walk.

http://deadspin.com/espn-suspends-bill-simmons-three-weeks-over-goodell-cri-1638842937

And I'm sure Olbermann is just warming up for tomorrow afternoon's
broadcast.

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Re: [TV orNotTV] ESPN declares war on its biggest talent, becomes less credible than Fox News

2014-09-24 Thread PGage
n Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 5:31 PM, Joe Hass hassgoc...@gmail.com wrote:

 In one fell swoop, the network shows it's completely in the pocket of the
 NFL, loses every inch of credibility it has, and effectively dares Bill
 Simmons to walk.


 http://deadspin.com/espn-suspends-bill-simmons-three-weeks-over-goodell-cri-1638842937

 And I'm sure Olbermann is just warming up for tomorrow afternoon's
 broadcast.


This is remarkable. I detest Bill Simmons, and ESPN may have found a way to
make me like him. If there was ever any doubt about how completely ESPN has
sold its soul to the NFL the ESPN book obliterated it some years ago, but
this is a good example. I don't know the details of the contract Grantland
has with ESPN, but I hope it allows him to take his ball and go home.

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