Re: [TV orNotTV] Quickie Review: Quantum Leap reboot

['David Bruggeman' via TVorNotTV]

 It what might have been some corporate synergy planning, SyFy is running 
episodes of Quantum Leap all day today, in no particular order...
David

On Tuesday, September 27, 2022 at 12:09:55 PM PDT, PGage  
wrote:  
 
 I actually like both of the leads in this show, though in episode two it is 
Lee who really shines. But I continue to not like almost anything about the 
show that is not taking place in the actual Leap. Maybe David is right and it 
is just that it is too soon for all that, but I think no matter when, a little 
of that would go a long way, and has been pointed out, the more time spent on 
developing the story in the Leap, the better.
>From what I could tell, it seems they conflated elements from the history of 
>Atlantis missions as the basis for this story, which I don’t hate, though 
>maybe I would have liked to see them focus just on the tile problem part, 
>forget the Mir part, and really done a real revised/real history thing with it.
Unlike Dave I am no more negative about the show now than after episode 1, but 
my continued viewing is still relying mostly on stored goodwill, rather than 
earned merit. If they can avoid going fully Monty on the present day conspiracy 
shenanigans I probably have enough good will stored to carry me through the 
full season.

On Tue, 27 Sep 2022 at 8:33 AM 'David Bruggeman' via TVorNotTV 
 wrote:

 Another issue is that the second episode is, IMO, a little too soon to focus 
so much on the modern-day storyline.  I understand that with most of the cast 
not traveling in time you want to spend some time with them, but it doesn't 
show much confidence in the basic concept of the show to make it essentially 
the B plot so soon.  I think this feeds into what Dave Sikula is talking about 
because rushed plots tend to focus on exposition at the expense of character.
David

On Tuesday, September 27, 2022 at 03:36:46 AM PDT, 'Dave Sikula' via 
TVorNotTV  wrote:  
 
 Well, now that the second episode has come and gone, this one looks like a 
dead fish. The effects were slightly better this time, though for all the money 
spent on a credible Space Shuttle set, they might have done better to put a 
couple more bucks in the script. (None of the other crew members noticed Lee 
having conversations with someone who wasn't there?)
The biggest problem remains the cast. Lee is fine, Hudson is serviceable (even 
with nothing to play), but the others -- especially Caitlin Bassett -- are 
stuck with leaden dialogue and ciphers of characters that they don't have the 
chops to do anything with. The other issue is the tone. No matter what happened 
on the original version, there was a chemistry and a friendship between Sam and 
Al. In the reboot, no one seems to like each other, and they spend their time 
recounting exposition and detailing each other's character traits rather than 
interacting.
I'll give it a few more episodes -- worse shows have gotten better -- but, 
right now, this show should leap home.
--Dave Sikula


  



  

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Quickie Review: Quantum Leap reboot

[PGage]

I actually like both of the leads in this show, though in episode two it is
Lee who really shines. But I continue to not like almost anything about the
show that is not taking place in the actual Leap. Maybe David is right and
it is just that it is too soon for all that, but I think no matter when, a
little of that would go a long way, and has been pointed out, the more time
spent on developing the story in the Leap, the better.

>From what I could tell, it seems they conflated elements from the history
of Atlantis missions as the basis for this story, which I don’t hate,
though maybe I would have liked to see them focus just on the tile problem
part, forget the Mir part, and really done a real revised/real history
thing with it.

Unlike Dave I am no more negative about the show now than after episode 1,
but my continued viewing is still relying mostly on stored goodwill, rather
than earned merit. If they can avoid going fully Monty on the present day
conspiracy shenanigans I probably have enough good will stored to carry me
through the full season.


On Tue, 27 Sep 2022 at 8:33 AM 'David Bruggeman' via TVorNotTV <
tvornottv@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Another issue is that the second episode is, IMO, a little too soon to
> focus so much on the modern-day storyline.  I understand that with most of
> the cast not traveling in time you want to spend some time with them, but
> it doesn't show much confidence in the basic concept of the show to make it
> essentially the B plot so soon.  I think this feeds into what Dave Sikula
> is talking about because rushed plots tend to focus on exposition at the
> expense of character.
>
> David
>
> On Tuesday, September 27, 2022 at 03:36:46 AM PDT, 'Dave Sikula' via
> TVorNotTV  wrote:
>
>
> Well, now that the second episode has come and gone, this one looks like a
> dead fish. The effects were slightly better this time, though for all the
> money spent on a credible Space Shuttle set, they might have done better to
> put a couple more bucks in the script. (None of the other crew members
> noticed Lee having conversations with someone who wasn't there?)
>
> The biggest problem remains the cast. Lee is fine, Hudson is serviceable
> (even with nothing to play), but the others -- especially Caitlin Bassett
> -- are stuck with leaden dialogue and ciphers of characters that they don't
> have the chops to do anything with. The other issue is the tone. No matter
> what happened on the original version, there was a chemistry and a
> friendship between Sam and Al. In the reboot, no one seems to like each
> other, and they spend their time recounting exposition and detailing each
> other's character traits rather than interacting.
>
> I'll give it a few more episodes -- worse shows have gotten better -- but,
> right now, this show should leap home.
>
> --Dave Sikula
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Quickie Review: Quantum Leap reboot

['David Bruggeman' via TVorNotTV]

 Another issue is that the second episode is, IMO, a little too soon to focus 
so much on the modern-day storyline.  I understand that with most of the cast 
not traveling in time you want to spend some time with them, but it doesn't 
show much confidence in the basic concept of the show to make it essentially 
the B plot so soon.  I think this feeds into what Dave Sikula is talking about 
because rushed plots tend to focus on exposition at the expense of character.
David

On Tuesday, September 27, 2022 at 03:36:46 AM PDT, 'Dave Sikula' via 
TVorNotTV  wrote:  
 
 Well, now that the second episode has come and gone, this one looks like a 
dead fish. The effects were slightly better this time, though for all the money 
spent on a credible Space Shuttle set, they might have done better to put a 
couple more bucks in the script. (None of the other crew members noticed Lee 
having conversations with someone who wasn't there?)
The biggest problem remains the cast. Lee is fine, Hudson is serviceable (even 
with nothing to play), but the others -- especially Caitlin Bassett -- are 
stuck with leaden dialogue and ciphers of characters that they don't have the 
chops to do anything with. The other issue is the tone. No matter what happened 
on the original version, there was a chemistry and a friendship between Sam and 
Al. In the reboot, no one seems to like each other, and they spend their time 
recounting exposition and detailing each other's character traits rather than 
interacting.
I'll give it a few more episodes -- worse shows have gotten better -- but, 
right now, this show should leap home.
--Dave Sikula


  

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Quickie Review: Quantum Leap reboot

['Dave Sikula' via TVorNotTV]

Well, now that the second episode has come and gone, this one looks like a 
dead fish. The effects were slightly better this time, though for all the 
money spent on a credible Space Shuttle set, they might have done better to 
put a couple more bucks in the script. (None of the other crew members 
noticed Lee having conversations with someone who wasn't there?)

The biggest problem remains the cast. Lee is fine, Hudson is serviceable 
(even with nothing to play), but the others -- especially Caitlin Bassett 
-- are stuck with leaden dialogue and ciphers of characters that they don't 
have the chops to do anything with. The other issue is the tone. No matter 
what happened on the original version, there was a chemistry and a 
friendship between Sam and Al. In the reboot, no one seems to like each 
other, and they spend their time recounting exposition and detailing each 
other's character traits rather than interacting.

I'll give it a few more episodes -- worse shows have gotten better -- but, 
right now, this show should leap home.

--Dave Sikula




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Re: [TV orNotTV] Quickie Review: Quantum Leap reboot

[M-D November]

I was about to bring up the "Evil Leaper", and the implication that Satan 
was somehow behind her mucking with history...

I don't recall if Ziggy's voice was audible through the handlink (since we 
only heard what Sam could hear), but I believe we heard the computer's 
voice at PQL headquarters.  And I remember a running gag about Sam 
programming it with Barbara Streisand's ego.
On Friday, September 23, 2022 at 6:18:32 PM UTC-4 Dave Sikula wrote:

> Exactly. The Waiting Room was one of the reasons they were able to track 
> down where Sam had leaped to and figure out why he was where he was (the 
> Buddy Holly episode excluded); that it wasn't "anywhere on the planet at 
> some time between the mid-80s and the present." I seem to remember one 
> episode where the person in Sam's body escaped and they had to track him 
> down.
>
> Did Ziggy ever talk beyond beeps when Al would hit his Lego unit? Gushie 
> talked, but Ziggy?
>
> As for other leapers, have we all forgotten the Evil Leaper? (I wish we 
> could, but she's canon.) That, and the meddling with actual events (like 
> the JFK assassination), were kind of a signal to me that they were running 
> out of ideas.
>
> I also miss the "oh, boy"s, and hope they're not replaced with the "oh, 
> sh--" we got in the first cliffhanger.
>
> I realized the other day that, as much as I liked the show, it's really 
> something of a ripoff of DC's Deadman.
>
> --Dave Sikula
>
> On Friday, September 23, 2022 at 01:38:00 PM PDT, M-D November <
> mdnov...@gmail.com> wrote: 
>
>
> Maybe I get distracted by the little things, but...did it bother anyone 
> else that the Waiting Room never got mentioned?  In the original series, 
> one of the reasons Al didn't show up until the middle of Act 1 was because 
> he was usually questioning the time-swapee in the Waiting Room, and I don't 
> feel like it was EVER mentioned in the pilot, despite the larger presence 
> of the project team.  Also, why doesn't Ziggy talk anymore?
>
> I will say that I'm glad the production design recognized that the vision 
> of "THE FUTURE" from the original series wasn't practical to replicate. 
>  Waay too much neon.
> On Wednesday, September 21, 2022 at 4:01:10 PM UTC-4 PGage wrote:
>
> Since I expected it to be horrible I came away mildly impressed that it 
> was less bad than it could have been. I think the two leads are strong and 
> promising. 
>
> It does have that performative ultra diverse stance that made ST: 
> Discovery so tiresome, but I would not blame that for the substantial 
> talent drop off after the two Leads. Most network shows that are all white 
> cast mediocre and forgettable actors after all. It does feel like they are 
> missing a fierce Latinx character, a guy in a wheel chair, and either a 
> super smart male nerd or super smart hot babe from the Sub Continent to 
> fill out their Diversity Bingo card. Yawn…but then, every generation has 
> its self indulgences. Millennials like to think they roam in well 
> represented diversity packs, even though the truth is most 30 years spend 
> most of their time with people from their own ethnic group.
>
> I will watch a few more episodes, if only out of respect for the pleasant 
> memories of hours I spent canoodling with my then new wife while watching 
> the original. But even more than the self congratulatory diversity 
> enactments, I am dreading what appears to be the now irresistible 
> overarching conspiracy plot line…
>
>
>
> On Tue, 20 Sep 2022 at 7:53 PM Kevin M.  wrote:
>
> The CGI is distracting… there are too many sets and effects that aren’t 
> practical. It’s a decent first story, but the cast seems to have been 
> chosen more for diversity than for talent. That said, Raymond Lee has the 
> potential to be a good lead. It is not as bad as it could have been, but it 
> is also not as good as it could have been.
>
> Streaming on the Peacock 
> -- 
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Quickie Review: Quantum Leap reboot

[PGage]

That episode (Saving Jackie O) is my all time favorite; I thought for sure
they would lean more heavily into stuff like that, and hope the new one
does (e.g. new guy stops a woman who is supposed to help make the Space
program work from running over a young boy in the street. It works, and he
jumps, be we find out the boys name was Donald and…”).

That would require what I think I heard somewhere which is that they do
extend the jumping range, either through some tech innovation, or by
tapping into Sam’s life span as well…

On Fri, 23 Sep 2022 at 2:49 PM Pete Ahles  wrote:

>
> On Fri, Sep 23, 2022 at 5:21 PM Kevin M.  wrote:
>
>> Wonder if the new Quantum Leap will explore the butterfly effect of
>> leaping. The only time I recall the original series discussing it in any
>> depth was when Sam inadvertently saved Jackie O’s life when JFK was
>> assassinated.
>>
>> Once when the project's budget was about to be cut, Sam helped a girl
> pass the bar exam. She became a senator in the present day who was on the
> committee who approved the budget.
>
> I wonder if they'll keep the "within one's lifetime" concept. The actor is
> in his 30s and they leaped to 1985. They can't go much earlier.
> The original series violated the rule once when Sam leaped to the Civil
> War. Al leaped to WWII (within his lifetime).
>
>
> Pete
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RE: [TV orNotTV] Quickie Review: Quantum Leap reboot

[Brad Beam]

From: 'David Bruggeman' via TVorNotTV [mailto:tvornottv@googlegroups.com] 


>Part of the clips for upcoming episodes mention Ben leaping outside of his own 
>timeline.
 
Without looking it up, I seem to recall Sam jumped back into a Civil War era 
ancestor in one episode. 

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Quickie Review: Quantum Leap reboot

['David Bruggeman' via TVorNotTV]

 YACS.  I can't even claim a swiss cheese memory as a defense here.
David

On Friday, September 23, 2022 at 03:16:00 PM PDT, Pete Ahles 
 wrote:  
 
 

On Fri, Sep 23, 2022 at 5:55 PM 'David Bruggeman' via TVorNotTV 
 wrote:

 Part of the clips for upcoming episodes mention Ben leaping outside of his own 
timeline.
As for Ernie Hudson's character, he is supposed to have served with Sam's 
brother in Vietnam, so technically he met Sam when Sam leaped into his brother.


Actually Sam leaped into Herbert "Magic" Williams - Ernie Hudson's character (I 
looked up the name). He saved his brother's life.
Pete

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Quickie Review: Quantum Leap reboot

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 Exactly. The Waiting Room was one of the reasons they were able to track down 
where Sam had leaped to and figure out why he was where he was (the Buddy Holly 
episode excluded); that it wasn't "anywhere on the planet at some time between 
the mid-80s and the present." I seem to remember one episode where the person 
in Sam's body escaped and they had to track him down.

Did Ziggy ever talk beyond beeps when Al would hit his Lego unit? Gushie 
talked, but Ziggy?
As for other leapers, have we all forgotten the Evil Leaper? (I wish we could, 
but she's canon.) That, and the meddling with actual events (like the JFK 
assassination), were kind of a signal to me that they were running out of ideas.
I also miss the "oh, boy"s, and hope they're not replaced with the "oh, sh--" 
we got in the first cliffhanger.

I realized the other day that, as much as I liked the show, it's really 
something of a ripoff of DC's Deadman.
--Dave Sikula

On Friday, September 23, 2022 at 01:38:00 PM PDT, M-D November 
 wrote:  
 
 Maybe I get distracted by the little things, but...did it bother anyone else 
that the Waiting Room never got mentioned?  In the original series, one of the 
reasons Al didn't show up until the middle of Act 1 was because he was usually 
questioning the time-swapee in the Waiting Room, and I don't feel like it was 
EVER mentioned in the pilot, despite the larger presence of the project team.  
Also, why doesn't Ziggy talk anymore?

I will say that I'm glad the production design recognized that the vision of 
"THE FUTURE" from the original series wasn't practical to replicate.  Waay 
too much neon.On Wednesday, September 21, 2022 at 4:01:10 PM UTC-4 PGage wrote:

Since I expected it to be horrible I came away mildly impressed that it was 
less bad than it could have been. I think the two leads are strong and 
promising. 
It does have that performative ultra diverse stance that made ST: Discovery so 
tiresome, but I would not blame that for the substantial talent drop off after 
the two Leads. Most network shows that are all white cast mediocre and 
forgettable actors after all. It does feel like they are missing a fierce 
Latinx character, a guy in a wheel chair, and either a super smart male nerd or 
super smart hot babe from the Sub Continent to fill out their Diversity Bingo 
card. Yawn…but then, every generation has its self indulgences. Millennials 
like to think they roam in well represented diversity packs, even though the 
truth is most 30 years spend most of their time with people from their own 
ethnic group.
I will watch a few more episodes, if only out of respect for the pleasant 
memories of hours I spent canoodling with my then new wife while watching the 
original. But even more than the self congratulatory diversity enactments, I am 
dreading what appears to be the now irresistible overarching conspiracy plot 
line…


On Tue, 20 Sep 2022 at 7:53 PM Kevin M.  wrote:

The CGI is distracting… there are too many sets and effects that aren’t 
practical. It’s a decent first story, but the cast seems to have been chosen 
more for diversity than for talent. That said, Raymond Lee has the potential to 
be a good lead. It is not as bad as it could have been, but it is also not as 
good as it could have been.
Streaming on the Peacock -- 
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Quickie Review: Quantum Leap reboot

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On Fri, Sep 23, 2022 at 5:55 PM 'David Bruggeman' via TVorNotTV <
tvornottv@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Part of the clips for upcoming episodes mention Ben leaping outside of his
> own timeline.
>
> As for Ernie Hudson's character, he is supposed to have served with Sam's
> brother in Vietnam, so technically he met Sam when Sam leaped into his
> brother.
>
>
> Actually Sam leaped into Herbert "Magic" Williams - Ernie Hudson's
character (I looked up the name). He saved his brother's life.

Pete

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Quickie Review: Quantum Leap reboot

['David Bruggeman' via TVorNotTV]

 Part of the clips for upcoming episodes mention Ben leaping outside of his own 
timeline.
As for Ernie Hudson's character, he is supposed to have served with Sam's 
brother in Vietnam, so technically he met Sam when Sam leaped into his brother.
David

On Friday, September 23, 2022 at 02:49:37 PM PDT, Pete Ahles 
 wrote:  
 
I wonder if they'll keep the "within one's lifetime" concept. The actor is in 
his 30s and they leaped to 1985. They can't go much earlier.The original series 
violated the rule once when Sam leaped to the Civil War. Al leaped to WWII 
(within his lifetime).

Pete
  
  

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Quickie Review: Quantum Leap reboot

[Pete Ahles]

On Fri, Sep 23, 2022 at 5:21 PM Kevin M.  wrote:

> Wonder if the new Quantum Leap will explore the butterfly effect of
> leaping. The only time I recall the original series discussing it in any
> depth was when Sam inadvertently saved Jackie O’s life when JFK was
> assassinated.
>
> Once when the project's budget was about to be cut, Sam helped a girl pass
the bar exam. She became a senator in the present day who was on the
committee who approved the budget.

I wonder if they'll keep the "within one's lifetime" concept. The actor is
in his 30s and they leaped to 1985. They can't go much earlier.
The original series violated the rule once when Sam leaped to the Civil
War. Al leaped to WWII (within his lifetime).


Pete

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Quickie Review: Quantum Leap reboot

[Kevin M.]

No mention of the waiting room yet

I read elsewhere that Ernie Hudson’s character was in the original series
(played by a different actor) and served with Al in Vietnam. One can guess
that character was intended to be Al in the reboot pilot script, but then
Stockwell passed away.

I have no prior knowledge of where the story is going, but I’d like to see
it unfold that Sam is secretly leaping into the various regular characters
throughout the season (that he is a character in the reboot but is unseen)
helping them along without their knowledge. Maybe even have him leap into
the lead character so he can pop out of the waiting room temporarily to be
with (and remember) the woman he’s engaged to marry. Can you leap into a
body that someone else has already leapt into?

It would also be nice if Sam’s wife appeared in the series at some point,
too.

In the original series finale, which was admittedly a jumbled wreck, it was
sort of established that others were also leaping (Sam watched one of them
leap towards the end). Maybe there are rival Quantum Leap projects?

Anyone recall the series “Timeless” from a few years ago? It also dealt
with traveling in time to right wrongs, but it also included those changes
affecting the show’s “present day” timeline. Wonder if the new Quantum Leap
will explore the butterfly effect of leaping. The only time I recall the
original series discussing it in any depth was when Sam inadvertently saved
Jackie O’s life when JFK was assassinated.

On Fri, Sep 23, 2022 at 1:38 PM M-D November  wrote:

> Maybe I get distracted by the little things, but...did it bother anyone
> else that the Waiting Room never got mentioned?  In the original series,
> one of the reasons Al didn't show up until the middle of Act 1 was because
> he was usually questioning the time-swapee in the Waiting Room, and I don't
> feel like it was EVER mentioned in the pilot, despite the larger presence
> of the project team.  Also, why doesn't Ziggy talk anymore?
>
> I will say that I'm glad the production design recognized that the vision
> of "THE FUTURE" from the original series wasn't practical to replicate.
> Waay too much neon.
> On Wednesday, September 21, 2022 at 4:01:10 PM UTC-4 PGage wrote:
>
>> Since I expected it to be horrible I came away mildly impressed that it
>> was less bad than it could have been. I think the two leads are strong and
>> promising.
>>
>> It does have that performative ultra diverse stance that made ST:
>> Discovery so tiresome, but I would not blame that for the substantial
>> talent drop off after the two Leads. Most network shows that are all white
>> cast mediocre and forgettable actors after all. It does feel like they are
>> missing a fierce Latinx character, a guy in a wheel chair, and either a
>> super smart male nerd or super smart hot babe from the Sub Continent to
>> fill out their Diversity Bingo card. Yawn…but then, every generation has
>> its self indulgences. Millennials like to think they roam in well
>> represented diversity packs, even though the truth is most 30 years spend
>> most of their time with people from their own ethnic group.
>>
>> I will watch a few more episodes, if only out of respect for the pleasant
>> memories of hours I spent canoodling with my then new wife while watching
>> the original. But even more than the self congratulatory diversity
>> enactments, I am dreading what appears to be the now irresistible
>> overarching conspiracy plot line…
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, 20 Sep 2022 at 7:53 PM Kevin M.  wrote:
>>
>>> The CGI is distracting… there are too many sets and effects that aren’t
>>> practical. It’s a decent first story, but the cast seems to have been
>>> chosen more for diversity than for talent. That said, Raymond Lee has the
>>> potential to be a good lead. It is not as bad as it could have been, but it
>>> is also not as good as it could have been.
>>>
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Quickie Review: Quantum Leap reboot

[M-D November]

Maybe I get distracted by the little things, but...did it bother anyone 
else that the Waiting Room never got mentioned?  In the original series, 
one of the reasons Al didn't show up until the middle of Act 1 was because 
he was usually questioning the time-swapee in the Waiting Room, and I don't 
feel like it was EVER mentioned in the pilot, despite the larger presence 
of the project team.  Also, why doesn't Ziggy talk anymore?

I will say that I'm glad the production design recognized that the vision 
of "THE FUTURE" from the original series wasn't practical to replicate. 
 Waay too much neon.
On Wednesday, September 21, 2022 at 4:01:10 PM UTC-4 PGage wrote:

> Since I expected it to be horrible I came away mildly impressed that it 
> was less bad than it could have been. I think the two leads are strong and 
> promising. 
>
> It does have that performative ultra diverse stance that made ST: 
> Discovery so tiresome, but I would not blame that for the substantial 
> talent drop off after the two Leads. Most network shows that are all white 
> cast mediocre and forgettable actors after all. It does feel like they are 
> missing a fierce Latinx character, a guy in a wheel chair, and either a 
> super smart male nerd or super smart hot babe from the Sub Continent to 
> fill out their Diversity Bingo card. Yawn…but then, every generation has 
> its self indulgences. Millennials like to think they roam in well 
> represented diversity packs, even though the truth is most 30 years spend 
> most of their time with people from their own ethnic group.
>
> I will watch a few more episodes, if only out of respect for the pleasant 
> memories of hours I spent canoodling with my then new wife while watching 
> the original. But even more than the self congratulatory diversity 
> enactments, I am dreading what appears to be the now irresistible 
> overarching conspiracy plot line…
>
>
>
> On Tue, 20 Sep 2022 at 7:53 PM Kevin M.  wrote:
>
>> The CGI is distracting… there are too many sets and effects that aren’t 
>> practical. It’s a decent first story, but the cast seems to have been 
>> chosen more for diversity than for talent. That said, Raymond Lee has the 
>> potential to be a good lead. It is not as bad as it could have been, but it 
>> is also not as good as it could have been.
>>
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Quickie Review: Quantum Leap reboot

[PGage]

Since I expected it to be horrible I came away mildly impressed that it was
less bad than it could have been. I think the two leads are strong and
promising.

It does have that performative ultra diverse stance that made ST: Discovery
so tiresome, but I would not blame that for the substantial talent drop off
after the two Leads. Most network shows that are all white cast mediocre
and forgettable actors after all. It does feel like they are missing a
fierce Latinx character, a guy in a wheel chair, and either a super smart
male nerd or super smart hot babe from the Sub Continent to fill out their
Diversity Bingo card. Yawn…but then, every generation has its self
indulgences. Millennials like to think they roam in well represented
diversity packs, even though the truth is most 30 years spend most of their
time with people from their own ethnic group.

I will watch a few more episodes, if only out of respect for the pleasant
memories of hours I spent canoodling with my then new wife while watching
the original. But even more than the self congratulatory diversity
enactments, I am dreading what appears to be the now irresistible
overarching conspiracy plot line…



On Tue, 20 Sep 2022 at 7:53 PM Kevin M.  wrote:

> The CGI is distracting… there are too many sets and effects that aren’t
> practical. It’s a decent first story, but the cast seems to have been
> chosen more for diversity than for talent. That said, Raymond Lee has the
> potential to be a good lead. It is not as bad as it could have been, but it
> is also not as good as it could have been.
>
> Streaming on the Peacock
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Quickie Review: Quantum Leap reboot

[Brad Beam]

So is Indiana. Jimmy Stewart would attest to that.
https://www.Jimmy.org

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> On Sep 21, 2022, at 09:52, Jim Ellwanger  wrote:
> 
> Clearly, time travel has all kinds of weird ripple effects on the timeline.
> 
> Although even in our timeline, California IS in Pennsylvania: 
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California,_Pennsylvania
> 
> 
>> On Sep 21, 2022, at 4:34 AM, Diner  wrote:
>> 
>> All I've seen is the trailer. It looks slick and cool, but...
>> So he's being chased through 1985 Philadelphia by 1980s-vintage Philadelphia 
>> police cars. So far, so good. But... the street has palm trees on it! And 
>> the cars spin out in front of a building marked "Children's Home Society of 
>> California"! Huh?
>> 
>>> On Tuesday, September 20, 2022 at 11:31:31 PM UTC-4 Kevin M. (RPCV) wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 20, 2022 at 8:11 PM Tom Wolper  wrote:
> Some of that might be an extra big budget to make the pilot pop. They’ll 
> probably cut back on the CGI in future episodes.
 
 What I think is the CGI is meant to reduce the show’s dependence on a 
 studio backlot or, Heaven forbid, location shooting. But I believe the 
 lack of realia affects an actor’s performance. I have the same criticism 
 of Star Trek: Strange New Worlds. Give me a cardboard set from the 1960s 
 any day over a green or blue screen creation. 
 
 
>>> 
 
> On Tue, Sep 20, 2022 at 10:53 PM Kevin M.  wrote:
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> practical. It’s a decent first story, but the cast seems to have been 
> chosen more for diversity than for talent. That said, Raymond Lee has the 
> potential to be a good lead. It is not as bad as it could have been, but 
> it is also not as good as it could have been.
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Quickie Review: Quantum Leap reboot

[Jim Ellwanger]

Clearly, time travel has all kinds of weird ripple effects on the timeline.

Although even in our timeline, California IS in Pennsylvania: 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California,_Pennsylvania 



> On Sep 21, 2022, at 4:34 AM, Diner  wrote:
> 
> All I've seen is the trailer. It looks slick and cool, but...
> So he's being chased through 1985 Philadelphia by 1980s-vintage Philadelphia 
> police cars. So far, so good. But... the street has palm trees on it! And the 
> cars spin out in front of a building marked "Children's Home Society of 
> California"! Huh?
> 
> On Tuesday, September 20, 2022 at 11:31:31 PM UTC-4 Kevin M. (RPCV) wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 20, 2022 at 8:11 PM Tom Wolper  > wrote:
> Some of that might be an extra big budget to make the pilot pop. They’ll 
> probably cut back on the CGI in future episodes.
> 
> What I think is the CGI is meant to reduce the show’s dependence on a studio 
> backlot or, Heaven forbid, location shooting. But I believe the lack of 
> realia affects an actor’s performance. I have the same criticism of Star 
> Trek: Strange New Worlds. Give me a cardboard set from the 1960s any day over 
> a green or blue screen creation. 
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, Sep 20, 2022 at 10:53 PM Kevin M.  > wrote:
> The CGI is distracting… there are too many sets and effects that aren’t 
> practical. It’s a decent first story, but the cast seems to have been chosen 
> more for diversity than for talent. That said, Raymond Lee has the potential 
> to be a good lead. It is not as bad as it could have been, but it is also not 
> as good as it could have been.
> 
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Quickie Review: Quantum Leap reboot

[Diner]

All I've seen is the trailer. It looks slick and cool, but...
So he's being chased through 1985 Philadelphia by 1980s-vintage 
Philadelphia police cars. So far, so good. But... the street has palm trees 
on it! And the cars spin out in front of a building marked "Children's Home 
Society of California"! Huh?

On Tuesday, September 20, 2022 at 11:31:31 PM UTC-4 Kevin M. (RPCV) wrote:

> On Tue, Sep 20, 2022 at 8:11 PM Tom Wolper  wrote:
>
>> Some of that might be an extra big budget to make the pilot pop. They’ll 
>> probably cut back on the CGI in future episodes.
>>
>
> What I think is the CGI is meant to reduce the show’s dependence on a 
> studio backlot or, Heaven forbid, location shooting. But I believe the lack 
> of realia affects an actor’s performance. I have the same criticism of Star 
> Trek: Strange New Worlds. Give me a cardboard set from the 1960s any day 
> over a green or blue screen creation. 
>
>
>
>> On Tue, Sep 20, 2022 at 10:53 PM Kevin M.  wrote:
>>
>>> The CGI is distracting… there are too many sets and effects that aren’t 
>>> practical. It’s a decent first story, but the cast seems to have been 
>>> chosen more for diversity than for talent. That said, Raymond Lee has the 
>>> potential to be a good lead. It is not as bad as it could have been, but it 
>>> is also not as good as it could have been.
>>>
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Quickie Review: Quantum Leap reboot

[Kevin M.]

On Tue, Sep 20, 2022 at 8:11 PM Tom Wolper  wrote:

> Some of that might be an extra big budget to make the pilot pop. They’ll
> probably cut back on the CGI in future episodes.
>

What I think is the CGI is meant to reduce the show’s dependence on a
studio backlot or, Heaven forbid, location shooting. But I believe the lack
of realia affects an actor’s performance. I have the same criticism of Star
Trek: Strange New Worlds. Give me a cardboard set from the 1960s any day
over a green or blue screen creation.



> On Tue, Sep 20, 2022 at 10:53 PM Kevin M. 
> wrote:
>
>> The CGI is distracting… there are too many sets and effects that aren’t
>> practical. It’s a decent first story, but the cast seems to have been
>> chosen more for diversity than for talent. That said, Raymond Lee has the
>> potential to be a good lead. It is not as bad as it could have been, but it
>> is also not as good as it could have been.
>>
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Quickie Review: Quantum Leap reboot

['David Bruggeman' via TVorNotTV]

 I'm of a similar mind as Kevin.  I get the impression from the additional cast 
and a couple of plot points that this time around there will be a *lot* more 
time spent on the present-day environment compared to the Bakula-Stockwood 
edition.  (To be fair, we rarely saw the Quantum Leap project facility in that 
series.)
I don't know if I'll stick around, but I'll check out the next few episodes.
David

On Tuesday, September 20, 2022 at 07:53:29 PM PDT, Kevin M. 
 wrote:  
 
 The CGI is distracting… there are too many sets and effects that aren’t 
practical. It’s a decent first story, but the cast seems to have been chosen 
more for diversity than for talent. That said, Raymond Lee has the potential to 
be a good lead. It is not as bad as it could have been, but it is also not as 
good as it could have been.
Streaming on the Peacock -- 
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Quickie Review: Quantum Leap reboot

[Tom Wolper]

Some of that might be an extra big budget to make the pilot pop. They’ll
probably cut back on the CGI in future episodes.

On Tue, Sep 20, 2022 at 10:53 PM Kevin M.  wrote:

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> practical. It’s a decent first story, but the cast seems to have been
> chosen more for diversity than for talent. That said, Raymond Lee has the
> potential to be a good lead. It is not as bad as it could have been, but it
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[TV orNotTV] Quickie Review: Quantum Leap reboot

[Kevin M.]

The CGI is distracting… there are too many sets and effects that aren’t
practical. It’s a decent first story, but the cast seems to have been
chosen more for diversity than for talent. That said, Raymond Lee has the
potential to be a good lead. It is not as bad as it could have been, but it
is also not as good as it could have been.

Streaming on the Peacock
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Kevin M. (RPCV)

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