Re: [TV orNotTV] Rachel Maddow returns to air, describes partner's virus bout

2020-11-21 Thread Steve Timko
On Fri, Nov 20, 2020 at 4:32 AM Doug Eastick  wrote:

> If you want snark, watch Brian Williams in the 11pm (ET) slot.
>


Speaking of Brian Williams snark.

https://twitter.com/K_JeanPierre/status/1330165223928500229

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Rachel Maddow returns to air, describes partner's virus bout

2020-11-21 Thread PGage
As she repeatedly reminds us whenever she covers a legal story, right after
a 20 min deep dive into the arcane legal conundrums, and just before
interviewing actual legal experts asking them to tell her where she made
mistakes (but really cueing them to confirm that she was exactly right).

On Sat, 21 Nov 2020 at 9:40 AM Melissa P  wrote:

> Rachel isn't a lawyer.
>
> Funny, I watch her show every night, but I don't think she's a good talk
> show guest.
>
> I haven't listened to her Spiro Agnew podcast, but I thought it was
> fascinating that she discovered irrefutable evidence of his antisemitism.
>
> On Sat, Nov 21, 2020 at 6:35 AM 'Dave Sikula' via TVorNotTV  googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>> For me, it's not the preaching to the choir; that's one of the reasons I
>> tune into the network (in spite of its preponderance of centrists and
>> former Republicans; I mean, I like Nicole Wallace, but ...). My problem
>> with Maddow is that she's a lawyer and an academic, and treats her program
>> like she's teaching a class or appealing to a jury, so she goes on long,
>> long rants that take forever to get to the point. She's much better on talk
>> shows, where she's forced to be succinct. I even liked her podcast on the
>> crimes of Spiro Agnew, since it was so focused.
>>
>> I much prefer Hayes's show; he understands that he's on television and
>> treats his program accordingly.
>>
>> --Dave Sikula
>>
>> On Friday, November 20, 2020 at 9:18:18 PM UTC-8 sta...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Rachel Maddow has been doing the MSNBC show since 2008, so her style
>>> isn’t really a product of the current administration.
>>>
>>> As far as preaching to the choir, the three major  “cable” news nets all
>>> do that. The last time there was unbiased cable news, “CNN2” was doing
>>> headlines.
>>>
>>> -Stan
>>> On Friday, November 20, 2020 at 7:32:29 AM UTC-5 Doug Eastick wrote:
>>>
 If you want snark, watch Brian Williams in the 11pm (ET) slot.



 On Fri., Nov. 20, 2020, 12:15 a.m. Kevin M., 
 wrote:

> I watched it. It’s the first time I watched Maddow since her fake
> Trump tax “bombshell” several years ago. It was clear she spoke from the
> heart, and I empathized with her as I watched it, and none of it had any
> place on what is ostensibly a news program. I don’t have any animosity
> towards her; her show’s style is a byproduct of Trump, where snark and
> informality get in get in the way of news and information. Her personality
> is the bulk of her show... her perspective. And I wish both she and her
> beloved Susan (as opposed to my beloved Susan) all the best, but her type
> of show is just awful to me. I just don’t see the point of a prime time
> series that does nothing but preach to the choir.
>
> https://twitter.com/maddowblog/status/1329613581621612551?s=21
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 19, 2020 at 8:50 PM Doug Eastick  wrote:
>
>> It was a pretty Real and Personal 9 minutes.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu., Nov. 19, 2020, 10:18 p.m. Steve Timko, 
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> https://apnews.com/article/coronavirus-pandemic-rachel-maddow-828b442412e08d9c069e38d58342f63d
>>>
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Rachel Maddow returns to air, describes partner's virus bout

2020-11-21 Thread Melissa P
Rachel isn't a lawyer.

Funny, I watch her show every night, but I don't think she's a good talk
show guest.

I haven't listened to her Spiro Agnew podcast, but I thought it was
fascinating that she discovered irrefutable evidence of his antisemitism.

On Sat, Nov 21, 2020 at 6:35 AM 'Dave Sikula' via TVorNotTV  wrote:

> For me, it's not the preaching to the choir; that's one of the reasons I
> tune into the network (in spite of its preponderance of centrists and
> former Republicans; I mean, I like Nicole Wallace, but ...). My problem
> with Maddow is that she's a lawyer and an academic, and treats her program
> like she's teaching a class or appealing to a jury, so she goes on long,
> long rants that take forever to get to the point. She's much better on talk
> shows, where she's forced to be succinct. I even liked her podcast on the
> crimes of Spiro Agnew, since it was so focused.
>
> I much prefer Hayes's show; he understands that he's on television and
> treats his program accordingly.
>
> --Dave Sikula
>
> On Friday, November 20, 2020 at 9:18:18 PM UTC-8 sta...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Rachel Maddow has been doing the MSNBC show since 2008, so her style
>> isn’t really a product of the current administration.
>>
>> As far as preaching to the choir, the three major  “cable” news nets all
>> do that. The last time there was unbiased cable news, “CNN2” was doing
>> headlines.
>>
>> -Stan
>> On Friday, November 20, 2020 at 7:32:29 AM UTC-5 Doug Eastick wrote:
>>
>>> If you want snark, watch Brian Williams in the 11pm (ET) slot.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri., Nov. 20, 2020, 12:15 a.m. Kevin M., 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 I watched it. It’s the first time I watched Maddow since her fake Trump
 tax “bombshell” several years ago. It was clear she spoke from the heart,
 and I empathized with her as I watched it, and none of it had any place on
 what is ostensibly a news program. I don’t have any animosity towards her;
 her show’s style is a byproduct of Trump, where snark and informality get
 in get in the way of news and information. Her personality is the bulk of
 her show... her perspective. And I wish both she and her beloved Susan (as
 opposed to my beloved Susan) all the best, but her type of show is just
 awful to me. I just don’t see the point of a prime time series that does
 nothing but preach to the choir.

 https://twitter.com/maddowblog/status/1329613581621612551?s=21


 On Thu, Nov 19, 2020 at 8:50 PM Doug Eastick  wrote:

> It was a pretty Real and Personal 9 minutes.
>
>
>
> On Thu., Nov. 19, 2020, 10:18 p.m. Steve Timko, 
> wrote:
>
>>
>> https://apnews.com/article/coronavirus-pandemic-rachel-maddow-828b442412e08d9c069e38d58342f63d
>>
>>
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Rachel Maddow returns to air, describes partner's virus bout

2020-11-21 Thread PGage
Again, I am the opposite. At times I detest Hayes; he doesn’t just know
he’s on television, he thinks he is Phil Donahue. The show he does with a
studio audience makes me cringe, but it just shows that he hears the
audience reaction in his head even without it. Rachel is a Diva, but also
almost as smart as she thinks she is, and for me the hit rate on her
monologues is high enough to make them an asset.

As noted by Stan Kevin’s take on her is just factually incorrect, she was a
snarky critic of both the Bush and Obama administrations. But there is
something to it, and it illustrates the challenge Trump has posed to all
news organizations. How would even Eric Sevareid (or, whoever) cover in a
neutral way a president whose essence is so relentlessly opposed to core
national values and norms? I think we know it’s not possible. Trump
transforms everyone into either a cheerleader or a resister.

On Sat, 21 Nov 2020 at 3:35 AM 'Dave Sikula' via TVorNotTV <
tvornottv@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> For me, it's not the preaching to the choir; that's one of the reasons I
> tune into the network (in spite of its preponderance of centrists and
> former Republicans; I mean, I like Nicole Wallace, but ...). My problem
> with Maddow is that she's a lawyer and an academic, and treats her program
> like she's teaching a class or appealing to a jury, so she goes on long,
> long rants that take forever to get to the point. She's much better on talk
> shows, where she's forced to be succinct. I even liked her podcast on the
> crimes of Spiro Agnew, since it was so focused.
>
> I much prefer Hayes's show; he understands that he's on television and
> treats his program accordingly.
>
> --Dave Sikula
>
> On Friday, November 20, 2020 at 9:18:18 PM UTC-8 sta...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Rachel Maddow has been doing the MSNBC show since 2008, so her style
>> isn’t really a product of the current administration.
>>
>> As far as preaching to the choir, the three major  “cable” news nets all
>> do that. The last time there was unbiased cable news, “CNN2” was doing
>> headlines.
>>
>> -Stan
>> On Friday, November 20, 2020 at 7:32:29 AM UTC-5 Doug Eastick wrote:
>>
>>> If you want snark, watch Brian Williams in the 11pm (ET) slot.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri., Nov. 20, 2020, 12:15 a.m. Kevin M., 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 I watched it. It’s the first time I watched Maddow since her fake Trump
 tax “bombshell” several years ago. It was clear she spoke from the heart,
 and I empathized with her as I watched it, and none of it had any place on
 what is ostensibly a news program. I don’t have any animosity towards her;
 her show’s style is a byproduct of Trump, where snark and informality get
 in get in the way of news and information. Her personality is the bulk of
 her show... her perspective. And I wish both she and her beloved Susan (as
 opposed to my beloved Susan) all the best, but her type of show is just
 awful to me. I just don’t see the point of a prime time series that does
 nothing but preach to the choir.

 https://twitter.com/maddowblog/status/1329613581621612551?s=21


 On Thu, Nov 19, 2020 at 8:50 PM Doug Eastick  wrote:

> It was a pretty Real and Personal 9 minutes.
>
>
>
> On Thu., Nov. 19, 2020, 10:18 p.m. Steve Timko, 
> wrote:
>
>>
>> https://apnews.com/article/coronavirus-pandemic-rachel-maddow-828b442412e08d9c069e38d58342f63d
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Rachel Maddow returns to air, describes partner's virus bout

2020-11-21 Thread 'Dave Sikula' via TVorNotTV
For me, it's not the preaching to the choir; that's one of the reasons I 
tune into the network (in spite of its preponderance of centrists and 
former Republicans; I mean, I like Nicole Wallace, but ...). My problem 
with Maddow is that she's a lawyer and an academic, and treats her program 
like she's teaching a class or appealing to a jury, so she goes on long, 
long rants that take forever to get to the point. She's much better on talk 
shows, where she's forced to be succinct. I even liked her podcast on the 
crimes of Spiro Agnew, since it was so focused.

I much prefer Hayes's show; he understands that he's on television and 
treats his program accordingly.

--Dave Sikula

On Friday, November 20, 2020 at 9:18:18 PM UTC-8 sta...@gmail.com wrote:

> Rachel Maddow has been doing the MSNBC show since 2008, so her style isn’t 
> really a product of the current administration. 
>
> As far as preaching to the choir, the three major  “cable” news nets all 
> do that. The last time there was unbiased cable news, “CNN2” was doing 
> headlines. 
>
> -Stan
> On Friday, November 20, 2020 at 7:32:29 AM UTC-5 Doug Eastick wrote:
>
>> If you want snark, watch Brian Williams in the 11pm (ET) slot.   
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri., Nov. 20, 2020, 12:15 a.m. Kevin M.,  
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I watched it. It’s the first time I watched Maddow since her fake Trump 
>>> tax “bombshell” several years ago. It was clear she spoke from the heart, 
>>> and I empathized with her as I watched it, and none of it had any place on 
>>> what is ostensibly a news program. I don’t have any animosity towards her; 
>>> her show’s style is a byproduct of Trump, where snark and informality get 
>>> in get in the way of news and information. Her personality is the bulk of 
>>> her show... her perspective. And I wish both she and her beloved Susan (as 
>>> opposed to my beloved Susan) all the best, but her type of show is just 
>>> awful to me. I just don’t see the point of a prime time series that does 
>>> nothing but preach to the choir. 
>>>
>>> https://twitter.com/maddowblog/status/1329613581621612551?s=21
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Nov 19, 2020 at 8:50 PM Doug Eastick  wrote:
>>>
 It was a pretty Real and Personal 9 minutes.



 On Thu., Nov. 19, 2020, 10:18 p.m. Steve Timko,  
 wrote:

>
> https://apnews.com/article/coronavirus-pandemic-rachel-maddow-828b442412e08d9c069e38d58342f63d
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Rachel Maddow returns to air, describes partner's virus bout

2020-11-20 Thread Stan S
Rachel Maddow has been doing the MSNBC show since 2008, so her style isn’t 
really a product of the current administration. 

As far as preaching to the choir, the three major  “cable” news nets all do 
that. The last time there was unbiased cable news, “CNN2” was doing 
headlines. 

-Stan
On Friday, November 20, 2020 at 7:32:29 AM UTC-5 Doug Eastick wrote:

> If you want snark, watch Brian Williams in the 11pm (ET) slot.   
>
>
>
> On Fri., Nov. 20, 2020, 12:15 a.m. Kevin M.,  wrote:
>
>> I watched it. It’s the first time I watched Maddow since her fake Trump 
>> tax “bombshell” several years ago. It was clear she spoke from the heart, 
>> and I empathized with her as I watched it, and none of it had any place on 
>> what is ostensibly a news program. I don’t have any animosity towards her; 
>> her show’s style is a byproduct of Trump, where snark and informality get 
>> in get in the way of news and information. Her personality is the bulk of 
>> her show... her perspective. And I wish both she and her beloved Susan (as 
>> opposed to my beloved Susan) all the best, but her type of show is just 
>> awful to me. I just don’t see the point of a prime time series that does 
>> nothing but preach to the choir. 
>>
>> https://twitter.com/maddowblog/status/1329613581621612551?s=21
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 19, 2020 at 8:50 PM Doug Eastick  wrote:
>>
>>> It was a pretty Real and Personal 9 minutes.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu., Nov. 19, 2020, 10:18 p.m. Steve Timko,  
>>> wrote:
>>>

 https://apnews.com/article/coronavirus-pandemic-rachel-maddow-828b442412e08d9c069e38d58342f63d
  

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Rachel Maddow returns to air, describes partner's virus bout

2020-11-20 Thread Doug Eastick
If you want snark, watch Brian Williams in the 11pm (ET) slot.



On Fri., Nov. 20, 2020, 12:15 a.m. Kevin M., 
wrote:

> I watched it. It’s the first time I watched Maddow since her fake Trump
> tax “bombshell” several years ago. It was clear she spoke from the heart,
> and I empathized with her as I watched it, and none of it had any place on
> what is ostensibly a news program. I don’t have any animosity towards her;
> her show’s style is a byproduct of Trump, where snark and informality get
> in get in the way of news and information. Her personality is the bulk of
> her show... her perspective. And I wish both she and her beloved Susan (as
> opposed to my beloved Susan) all the best, but her type of show is just
> awful to me. I just don’t see the point of a prime time series that does
> nothing but preach to the choir.
>
> https://twitter.com/maddowblog/status/1329613581621612551?s=21
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 19, 2020 at 8:50 PM Doug Eastick  wrote:
>
>> It was a pretty Real and Personal 9 minutes.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu., Nov. 19, 2020, 10:18 p.m. Steve Timko, 
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> https://apnews.com/article/coronavirus-pandemic-rachel-maddow-828b442412e08d9c069e38d58342f63d
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Rachel Maddow returns to air, describes partner's virus bout

2020-11-19 Thread Kevin M.
I watched it. It’s the first time I watched Maddow since her fake Trump tax
“bombshell” several years ago. It was clear she spoke from the heart, and I
empathized with her as I watched it, and none of it had any place on what
is ostensibly a news program. I don’t have any animosity towards her; her
show’s style is a byproduct of Trump, where snark and informality get in
get in the way of news and information. Her personality is the bulk of her
show... her perspective. And I wish both she and her beloved Susan (as
opposed to my beloved Susan) all the best, but her type of show is just
awful to me. I just don’t see the point of a prime time series that does
nothing but preach to the choir.

https://twitter.com/maddowblog/status/1329613581621612551?s=21


On Thu, Nov 19, 2020 at 8:50 PM Doug Eastick  wrote:

> It was a pretty Real and Personal 9 minutes.
>
>
>
> On Thu., Nov. 19, 2020, 10:18 p.m. Steve Timko, 
> wrote:
>
>>
>> https://apnews.com/article/coronavirus-pandemic-rachel-maddow-828b442412e08d9c069e38d58342f63d
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Rachel Maddow returns to air, describes partner's virus bout

2020-11-19 Thread Doug Eastick
It was a pretty Real and Personal 9 minutes.



On Thu., Nov. 19, 2020, 10:18 p.m. Steve Timko, 
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[TV orNotTV] Rachel Maddow returns to air, describes partner's virus bout

2020-11-19 Thread Steve Timko
https://apnews.com/article/coronavirus-pandemic-rachel-maddow-828b442412e08d9c069e38d58342f63d

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