Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: NFL Delivers Heroin Hit This Weekend

2022-01-25 Thread John Edwards 
The CFL rule is that a ball kicked into the end zone, and not brought out,
results in a single point. It's not necessarily after a touchdown.

I'll note that the CFL has the loss of down for delay of game penalty, but
only in the last three minutes of each half. That's particularly damaging
given that the CFL only has 3 downs.

John

On Mon, 24 Jan 2022 at 16:38, 'Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV <
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> My ideas would speed up the regulation game, and reduce the possibiility
> of OT.
> -- Play-clock violation = loss of down, not yardage
> -- Replace half-the-distance penalties with TDs or safeties, as applicable
> -- Award TDs for defensive pass interference in end zone
> -- If an interception (in-field and beyond line of scrimmage) is not
> advanced, next play is at previous line of scrimmage
> -- In regular-season games, tie = loss for both teams, not half-and-half,
> 'cuz neither team won
> I am still in favor of the CFL's "single" after TDs coming south, as I
> have been since seeing my first rouge scored thanks to ESPN generations
> ago, but won't pursue it here. B
>
> PGage, to David Lynch and moi, Jan 24th:
>
>> I despise the College rule.
>>
>> I was not crazy about moving to the current rule, but it was justified by
>> the large advantage the receiving team has in scoring a FG. A team that
>> played decent defense and stopped a TD often still lost. That is no longer
>> true, and I think the current rule works pretty well. If you don’t want to
>> lose on the first TD of OT, win in regulation, of okay better defense.
>>
>> Now, the alternative that does make sense is that, in the post-season,
>> play extra quarters (maybe at shorter intervals), like the NBA does. That
>> would risk the first game of a postseason schedule day bleeding over
>> against the second, which they really don’t want, plus football is hard
>> enough that the injury risks associated with potentially 20 or 30 minutes
>> of additional play may be significant.
>>
>> As a Chiefs fan who felt royally screwed after the 2018 (January 2019)
>>> AFC championship came down to a very similar-feeling OT win by the
>>> Patriots, not even being on the other side of that equation has changed my
>>> opinion that the first possession shouldn't be sudden death. I think the
>>> current system is fine for the regular season, but I'd like to see both
>>> teams given a chance on offense/required to play defense when there's more
>>> at stake.
>>>
>>> For me, it would just be a matter of changing the current rule to be the
>>> game not ending on the first drive in the event of a field goal or a
>>> touchdown by the team on offense. No need to go all the way to college
>>> style overtime, which I've seen some propose.
>>>
>>> If one has to do with Overtime, I reject it sight unseen. It sucks for
 the Bills that Josh did not get to touch the ball in OT, but defense is
 part of the game too…

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: NFL Delivers Heroin Hit This Weekend

2022-01-24 Thread 'Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV 
My ideas would speed up the regulation game, and reduce the possibiility of 
OT.
-- Play-clock violation = loss of down, not yardage
-- Replace half-the-distance penalties with TDs or safeties, as applicable
-- Award TDs for defensive pass interference in end zone
-- If an interception (in-field and beyond line of scrimmage) is not 
advanced, next play is at previous line of scrimmage
-- In regular-season games, tie = loss for both teams, not half-and-half, 
'cuz neither team won
I am still in favor of the CFL's "single" after TDs coming south, as I have 
been since seeing my first rouge scored thanks to ESPN generations ago, but 
won't pursue it here. B

PGage, to David Lynch and moi, Jan 24th:

> I despise the College rule. 
>
> I was not crazy about moving to the current rule, but it was justified by 
> the large advantage the receiving team has in scoring a FG. A team that 
> played decent defense and stopped a TD often still lost. That is no longer 
> true, and I think the current rule works pretty well. If you don’t want to 
> lose on the first TD of OT, win in regulation, of okay better defense.
>
> Now, the alternative that does make sense is that, in the post-season, 
> play extra quarters (maybe at shorter intervals), like the NBA does. That 
> would risk the first game of a postseason schedule day bleeding over 
> against the second, which they really don’t want, plus football is hard 
> enough that the injury risks associated with potentially 20 or 30 minutes 
> of additional play may be significant.
>
> As a Chiefs fan who felt royally screwed after the 2018 (January 2019) AFC 
>> championship came down to a very similar-feeling OT win by the Patriots, 
>> not even being on the other side of that equation has changed my opinion 
>> that the first possession shouldn't be sudden death. I think the current 
>> system is fine for the regular season, but I'd like to see both teams given 
>> a chance on offense/required to play defense when there's more at stake.
>>
>> For me, it would just be a matter of changing the current rule to be the 
>> game not ending on the first drive in the event of a field goal or a 
>> touchdown by the team on offense. No need to go all the way to college 
>> style overtime, which I've seen some propose.
>>
>> If one has to do with Overtime, I reject it sight unseen. It sucks for 
>>> the Bills that Josh did not get to touch the ball in OT, but defense is 
>>> part of the game too…
>>>
>>

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: NFL Delivers Heroin Hit This Weekend

2022-01-24 Thread PGage 
I despise the College rule.

I was not crazy about moving to the current rule, but it was justified by
the large advantage the receiving team has in scoring a FG. A team that
played decent defense and stopped a TD often still lost. That is no longer
true, and I think the current rule works pretty well. If you don’t want to
lose on the first TD of OT, win in regulation, of okay better defense.

Now, the alternative that does make sense is that, in the post-season, play
extra quarters (maybe at shorter intervals), like the NBA does. That would
risk the first game of a postseason schedule day bleeding over against the
second, which they really don’t want, plus football is hard enough that the
injury risks associated with potentially 20 or 30 minutes of additional
play may be significant.

On Mon, 24 Jan 2022 at 9:25 AM David Lynch  wrote:

> As a Chiefs fan who felt royally screwed after the 2018 (January 2019) AFC
> championship came down to a very similar-feeling OT win by the Patriots,
> not even being on the other side of that equation has changed my opinion
> that the first possession shouldn't be sudden death. I think the current
> system is fine for the regular season, but I'd like to see both teams given
> a chance on offense/required to play defense when there's more at stake.
>
> For me, it would just be a matter of changing the current rule to be the
> game not ending on the first drive in the event of a field goal or a
> touchdown by the team on offense. No need to go all the way to college
> style overtime, which I've seen some propose.
>
> On Mon, Jan 24, 2022 at 9:32 AM PGage  wrote:
>
>> If one has to do with Overtime, I reject it sight unseen. It sucks for
>> the Bills that Josh did not get to touch the ball in OT, but defense is
>> part of the game too…
>>
>> On Mon, 24 Jan 2022 at 6:37 AM 'Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV <
>> tvornottv@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I have an intriguing list of rules proposals that I can post if anyone
>>> is interested.   B
>>>
>>> PGage, Jan 23rd:
>>>
 The NFL is horrible in so many ways, but weekends like this provide the
 high that keeps us coming back. Four amazing games, each one literally more
 hearts topping and mind blowing than the last.
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: NFL Delivers Heroin Hit This Weekend

2022-01-24 Thread David Lynch 
As a Chiefs fan who felt royally screwed after the 2018 (January 2019) AFC
championship came down to a very similar-feeling OT win by the Patriots,
not even being on the other side of that equation has changed my opinion
that the first possession shouldn't be sudden death. I think the current
system is fine for the regular season, but I'd like to see both teams given
a chance on offense/required to play defense when there's more at stake.

For me, it would just be a matter of changing the current rule to be the
game not ending on the first drive in the event of a field goal or a
touchdown by the team on offense. No need to go all the way to college
style overtime, which I've seen some propose.

On Mon, Jan 24, 2022 at 9:32 AM PGage  wrote:

> If one has to do with Overtime, I reject it sight unseen. It sucks for the
> Bills that Josh did not get to touch the ball in OT, but defense is part of
> the game too…
>
> On Mon, 24 Jan 2022 at 6:37 AM 'Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV <
> tvornottv@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>> I have an intriguing list of rules proposals that I can post if anyone is
>> interested.   B
>>
>> PGage, Jan 23rd:
>>
>>> The NFL is horrible in so many ways, but weekends like this provide the
>>> high that keeps us coming back. Four amazing games, each one literally more
>>> hearts topping and mind blowing than the last.
>>
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: NFL Delivers Heroin Hit This Weekend

2022-01-24 Thread PGage 
If one has to do with Overtime, I reject it sight unseen. It sucks for the
Bills that Josh did not get to touch the ball in OT, but defense is part of
the game too…

On Mon, 24 Jan 2022 at 6:37 AM 'Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV <
tvornottv@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> I have an intriguing list of rules proposals that I can post if anyone is
> interested.   B
>
> PGage, Jan 23rd:
>
>> The NFL is horrible in so many ways, but weekends like this provide the
>> high that keeps us coming back. Four amazing games, each one literally more
>> hearts topping and mind blowing than the last.
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[TV orNotTV] Re: NFL Delivers Heroin Hit This Weekend

2022-01-24 Thread 'Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV 
I have an intriguing list of rules proposals that I can post if anyone is 
interested.   B

PGage, Jan 23rd:

> The NFL is horrible in so many ways, but weekends like this provide the 
> high that keeps us coming back. Four amazing games, each one literally more 
> hearts topping and mind blowing than the last.  

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