[twitter-dev] Re: Time zone support
Zaudio wrote: I actually totally prefer time's to all be UNC / GMT as they are now... And that won't change obviously. Messages would be marked with both times (poster's and reader's) it's the same erevywhere, and very easily converted to local timezones for display - which is what I imagine most end users want to see... Again, that won't change of course. But it may be preferable to have both timestamps displayed. they don't want to be working out timezones from around the world in their heads! That's the main point of my suggestion! It helps avoiding the need of making calculation to know at what time a Tweet has been posted according to the poster's timezone. It doesn't make sense to see that Jeff said Good morning at 12:30 even though it was 06:30 for him... Of course for a personal timeline I will need to have the 13:30 information, but I would appreciate to have a mention of Jeff's timezone somewhere. For now, I must calculate each post's timestamp, whether it comes from India, Switzerland, New-York or Australia... If tweets all start having variable timezones, it is just another thing that has to be calculated around to get times into the local timezone for end users. I am not going to repeat myself... I still believe this feature would emphasize the international impact of Twitter and improve the user experience. What do you think? Cheers, Emrah
[twitter-dev] Re: Time zone support
My mistake, I wrote 12:30 and 13:30, and it is not coherent. I ment 12:30 in both cases. Btw, sorry for my English. Regards, Emrah Emrah wrote: Zaudio wrote: I actually totally prefer time's to all be UNC / GMT as they are now... And that won't change obviously. Messages would be marked with both times (poster's and reader's) it's the same erevywhere, and very easily converted to local timezones for display - which is what I imagine most end users want to see... Again, that won't change of course. But it may be preferable to have both timestamps displayed. they don't want to be working out timezones from around the world in their heads! That's the main point of my suggestion! It helps avoiding the need of making calculation to know at what time a Tweet has been posted according to the poster's timezone. It doesn't make sense to see that Jeff said Good morning at 12:30 even though it was 06:30 for him... Of course for a personal timeline I will need to have the 13:30 information, but I would appreciate to have a mention of Jeff's timezone somewhere. For now, I must calculate each post's timestamp, whether it comes from India, Switzerland, New-York or Australia... If tweets all start having variable timezones, it is just another thing that has to be calculated around to get times into the local timezone for end users. I am not going to repeat myself... I still believe this feature would emphasize the international impact of Twitter and improve the user experience. What do you think? Cheers, Emrah
[twitter-dev] Time zone support
Hi, Any plans to implement timezone support? It's weird to say Good morning at 5h45 from Switzerland and see it appear as 19h45 in the public timeline / on some profiles... It doesn't make sense to me... The time should be written with the mention of the time zone, e.g.: 05:45 CEST. An other suggestion could be to display the time in both formats: e.g.: 05:45 CEST / 10:15 IST | poster's timezone / reader's timezone. Choice should be given to the user whether to display the message timestamps with timezone support or no. Regards, Emrah
[twitter-dev] Re: Time zone support
Raffi Krikorian wrote: hi emrah. this sounds interesting -- how do you handle people who are traveling and may not be in their home timezone when they say good morning? :) Timezone code could be set per Tweet as a parameter. E.g.: on mobile phones, the time is usually updated from the network operator and on most computers from an NNTP. Obviously the user experience should not be changed and the timezone must be discovered and set automatically. Regards, Emrah
[twitter-dev] Re: Source parameter only available through oauth - misses a use case
I totally agree... Ivo, I got the same answers for a pretty similar question some months ago... I do not see the link between the source parameter and how the authentication is made... Cheers! Ivo wrote: Hi, short answer: oauth is for delegated authentication; I'm using direct authentication of my own account. Both are valid use cases, so in my opinion the source parameter should continue to work for the second use case (I can't find a good reason to only support it for delegated authentication) Besides; all the examples you mention are for delegated authentication; it would be weird to have a headless system that is working as a service implement an oauth scheme. greetings, Ivo On Sep 14, 12:09 pm, Andrew Badera and...@badera.us wrote: With all the freely available examples, and all the freely available documentation and support available through oauth.net, what's stopping you from cranking out an OAuth client implementation in 2 hours? OAuth helps prevent, or at least make obvious for the time being, spammers. HTTP Basic Auth has no value here. ∞ Andy Badera ∞ +1 518-641-1280 ∞ This email is: [ ] bloggable [x] ask first [ ] private ∞ Google me:http://www.google.com/search?q=andrew%20badera On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 1:48 AM, Ivo i...@epointment.com wrote: Hi, the developer wiki mentions that the source parameter is no longer recommended, because using oauth, twitter can already know the source of messages. However, there are a few use case scenario's that are limited if source is only available through oauth. Oauth is all about delegated authentication. It's about the user granting access to his resources to a service. There are services out there that do not use the user's credentials at all, but use their own account. E.g. I built flackr.net, and it logs in with its own @flackr account to follow its own timeline and aggregate news on a website. I don't need user's credentials at all for that. The Flackr backend is autonomous and runs on a server that has no web frontend, it just fetches data and processes it. It does send out tweets when it has aggregated something interesting. If I were to use oauth in this scenario I would have to build in full oauth support in my backend script, only to login once with my own account to grant myself access. Since this is not about delegated access, I don't need oauth and can authenticate against twitter directly. This is a perfectly good use case scenario, and the source parameter would have to stay in order to support this use case scenario while still providing a different source.
[twitter-dev] XML error when viewing profiles
I'm having this error this morning : Emrah KAVUN (ekavun) on Twitter XML Parsing Error: not well-formed Location: http://twitter.com/ekavun Line Number 47, Column 215:tabletrtd class=gimg alt=ekavun height=48 src=http://static.twitter.com/images/default_profile_normal.png; width=48 //tdtdbekavun/b RT @a href=/CedricJabCedricJab/a: quot;RT ...@mos_parentime: Vodaphone Turkey uses Voice Biometrics for customer support: a href=http://tinyurl.com/nbeglh.quot; target=_blankhttp://tinyurl.com/nbeglh/a; small11:58 AM Jun 25th/small --^ Any idea?
[twitter-dev] Re: XML error when viewing profiles
It seems to do that only with the latest stable Firefox (3.11) Emrah wrote: I'm having this error this morning : Emrah KAVUN (ekavun) on Twitter XML Parsing Error: not well-formed Location: http://twitter.com/ekavun Line Number 47, Column 215:tabletrtd class=gimg alt=ekavun height=48 src=http://static.twitter.com/images/default_profile_normal.png; width=48 //tdtdbekavun/b RT @a href=/CedricJabCedricJab/a: quot;RT ...@mos_parentime: Vodaphone Turkey uses Voice Biometrics for customer support: a href=http://tinyurl.com/nbeglh.quot; target=_blankhttp://tinyurl.com/nbeglh/a; small11:58 AM Jun 25th/small --^ Any idea?
[twitter-dev] Posting to Twitter via TXT outside the US
Hello, Is there any possibility to post to Twitter via SMS outside the US? Is there any interest in opening a sms to Twitter gateway in Europe? I could cover UK and Switzerland to start with. Cheers, Emrah
[twitter-dev] Re: Posting to Twitter via TXT outside the US
Hey Matt, Are you working with a special provider for that? Is it interesting for you to have some help to cover Switzerland, probably France as well? Cheers, Emrah Matt Sanford wrote: Hi there, We're working on getting set up in more and more countries [1][2][3][4] all the time, even in the UK in some cases [2]. Since this is taking some time you might want to check out the blog post where we outlined some other options if we haven't yet gotten to your country and carrier [5]. Thanks; – Matt Footnote Sanford / @mzsanford Twitter Dev [1] - http://blog.twitter.com/2009/05/hello-new-zealand.html [2] - http://blog.twitter.com/2009/03/full-sms-service-for-vodafone-uk.html [3] - http://blog.twitter.com/2008/11/oh-canada.html [4] - http://blog.twitter.com/2007/05/australian-clarity.html [5] - http://blog.twitter.com/2008/08/changes-for-some-sms-usersgood-and-bad.html On Jun 10, 2009, at 2:53 AM, Emrah wrote: Hello, Is there any possibility to post to Twitter via SMS outside the US? Is there any interest in opening a sms to Twitter gateway in Europe? I could cover UK and Switzerland to start with. Cheers, Emrah
[twitter-dev] Twitter conference
Hi everybody, Is there any planned Twitter Meetup in the near future? Is there any official schedule available online? I heard about #140conf but I was imagining something more developers oriented. Something to discuss possible improvements, add-ons or similar stuffs about Twitter and Twitter apps. I was actually imagining planning a Web or Phone conference between Twitter admins, developers and perhaps some interesting users? In both cases, the conference could be recorded as a podcast to be redistributed if necessary. Mixing both telephone and Web conferencing for users who are not able to join the Web meeting is possible. About the Web meeting, it would be possible to support 2 or 3 concurrent video streams but the number of participants would be unlimited. Regarding the telephone conferencing, it could be possible to integrate Skype, VoIP, regular phone lines and a callback function for users who can't make international phone calls. What do you think? Emrah
[twitter-dev] Registering source app without OAuth
Hi, I would like to register a cmd line app that I made for some FFF (Friends fools and family) that does not use OAuth because I would just mean unnecessary garbage. How do I register it as a Source app? Cheers
[twitter-dev] Re: Registering source app without OAuth
Chris, Thanks for your answer. That's a shame... In my case it is not marketing... I just don't like when it says that I posted from Web when it comes from a Jabber transport, a Linux CLI, a VoIP Phone... It's more fun to be able to customize the from field. Well, if I think it's worth it I might send an Email to Doug ;) Cheers, thanks again Chris Thomson wrote: See Doug's message about this from back in April [1], and the FAQ [2]. 1 - http://groups.google.com/group/twitter-development-talk/msg/e848d30117f9364c 2 - http://apiwiki.twitter.com/FAQ#HowdoIget%E2%80%9CfromMyApp%E2%80%9DappendedtoupdatessentfrommyAPIapplication -Chris Thomson On Sun, Jun 7, 2009 at 3:30 PM, Emrah e...@ekanet.net wrote: Hi, I would like to register a cmd line app that I made for some FFF (Friends fools and family) that does not use OAuth because I would just mean unnecessary garbage. How do I register it as a Source app? Cheers
[twitter-dev] Re: Our own redirecting URL is being changed to a bit.ly URL
Hi, If it can be in any help, I have a kind of private url shortening service that I could adapt to your needs. www.fwd.li. I can't really design the page because I am blind (the reason why there is no logo). However it might come handy to have an url shortening api service designed individually for your apps. I currently support plain text and xml output. Cheers, Emrah P.s.: if someone is interested in making a logo, you're welcome. If someone else would like to carry on the dev, welcome as well. :) TjL wrote: On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 10:48 PM, Cameron Kaiser spec...@floodgap.com wrote: The best you can do is use the bit.ly API to un-shorten the link and grab your URL key from there. Have a look at the /expand method in their API: http://code.google.com/p/bitly-api/wiki/ApiDocumentation Or, implement your own URL shortening scheme (either internally, or using a specific service that meets your needs), with the assumption that the shortening will occur and at least this way you can control the situation under how the shortening is handled. I believe that Twitter will shorten links over 30 characters, but this does not *always* seem to be the case. Your best bet (IMO) is to determine which service you want to use and shorten the links yourself. I started putting together a list of them not too long ago and came up with these: bit.ly xrl.us tr.im snipr.com tinyarro.ws tinyurl.com icanhaz.com budurl.com There are, no doubt, others.
[twitter-dev] Re: Yet another from my app related question
Hello! Thanks a lot for your reply, I understand better now. Cheers, emrah Chad Etzel wrote: No, you cannot. Source parameter registration has been depricated for non-OAuth apps. http://groups.google.com/group/twitter-development-talk/browse_thread/thread/ce57405a08483877/715c330a15e4968d -Chad On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 5:54 PM, Emrah e...@ekanet.net wrote: Hi, I can see aplications made in 2007 with the from my app appended. Any hint on how I can specify the source without OAuth? I am using OAuth with great satisfaction but I still annoys me to rely on a Web token/platform. Thanks, -- Emrah KAVUN e...@ekanet.net -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJJ9NgjAAoJEMRdXyMGNBkRBPUP/2PvL+dOCUyHgfKZapEg6LkW Nv7zBcJ9kQjNs1fttvWSemzlzEwuKd9Gk0un8HBdeuMy/maoMJvp5kcFyHpxplOq FIolQaNhIgGRNwAQmQyuZwKzKKc0/Yh6lcMtjs88Dx6dYjKsr/DTDXXpsNNpsIMf R7IuSnrEJ+J1g/YkinGQKWNI7A20YoTBY4VeYP8YnAzoUaQ4/6E7SvFaWcYzs/yq SVeSFzL+6ablmVXVieau4ed4KelWRxPNLpqyIvDxeEKijwM6AX2VZLTrw6aTs4Bn BDH0an4Vfjct0dXMOz9SyfTd+RiSh2kXSeZX8cuDsr+dgwM8ks3fgL1oZql7Y+8X TDutf9zABuIRIwuOpcgv7u55eCYYzZj09liaA0S0VrPigpP+QeVHm7R/AHu10T3V O4nRGUu5S86DOof1tQP4nGTasWJi7Ig9/jfjm5p81QaX/EV3OwhXWPDV39iR4Bd7 HylyjzLuXFd3XmKz+m47Z5zPrx5DYgpcg2D/9djB1GGas5AduzRJkgAtNjJD4mTJ dt54lIWP+p/gpKgqeMKsDCEfVTyPKMUVAS5YNPts6VtgC7hpLwZWZTXx1BzWSjUb 94UAQexMfyTziU5yNy0y95E0ypoYiQvqrEHuUop1CMNPkxiYGQwYrm8dEonB5P6k WUISca5sLILHFQBhZFkC =iabd -END PGP SIGNATURE-
[twitter-dev] Yet another from my app related question
Hello Twitter developers, I hope I'm not duplicating my message... I sent it twice by Email but I got posting errors replied back by Google. I apologise in advance for this question. I read the notice on the welcome page and I hesitated before sending my Email but well. I really didn't find my answer anywhere. I am using CURL to post a status update. It means that I don't use OAuth and my authentication is Basic. However, I'd like to be able to post my update with the name of my application. Is this possible? Or do I inevitably need an instance of either PHP, Perl, Python or something similar... The current version of my app is only ment to be some kind of proof of concept. About my app: It is a small server side phone aplication that allows you to post voice clips as status update, using a regular phone, as long as the phone number used to dial in is linked to a Twitter account. My updates are public and you can see how it looks like on http://twitter.com/ekavun. Thanks for your help. Cheers, Emrah
[twitter-dev] Re: Yet another from my app related question
Hi, Does anybody here know some command line utilities to use the Twitter API with OAuth? My aim is to: - Authorize my app - Store the token - Use the token to make status updates Thanks, Emrah -- Emrah KAVUN # rfc822: e...@ekanet.net | rfc3261: 41225886...@devel.kavun.ch # OpenPGP Key Fingerprint = ECB7 ED46 441D FAA6 66AE 4BD4 C45D 5F23 0634 1911 signature.asc Description: Digital signature
[twitter-dev] Re: Yet another from my app related question
Hi, I can see aplications made in 2007 with the from my app appended. Any hint on how I can specify the source without OAuth? I am using OAuth with great satisfaction but I still annoys me to rely on a Web token/platform. Thanks, -- Emrah KAVUN e...@ekanet.net signature.asc Description: Digital signature
