RE: [twitter-dev] Re: TWITTER BANS 3rd PARTY ADVERTISING

2010-05-25 Thread mycroftt
I stopped development on my Twitter appa year after realizing that the twitter API was not yet stable enough to allow an individual developer to create a stable product. I continue to follow the exchange between developers and Twitter as much for entertainment as to keep track. Twitter understands the eco-system that is evolving no better than the rest of us but it still wants to control and direct the evolution. Each bit of control it exerts trims off branches of evolution that do not support the main stem. By cutting off branches twitter is possibly denying the evolution of future success.


 Original Message Subject: [twitter-dev] Re: TWITTER BANS 3rd PARTY ADVERTISINGFrom: Eric Woodward e...@nambu.comDate: Mon, May 24, 2010 1:34 pmTo: Twitter Development Talktwitter-development-talk@googlegroups.comAt this point I am not why anyone that cares enough to be in thisgroup is surprised. It is clear that Twitter is going to take*everything* for themselves. I don't understand why anyone wouldcontinue to develop on Twitter's platform as anything more than ahobby. First it was us (Twitter clients) and now it is the adplatforms' turn. Next it will be somebody else.Lots of us enjoy developing for its own sake, and that is what Twitteris now: a feature you add to something else, or a hobby activity. Timewe all just faced up to it.--ejwEric WoodwardEmail: e...@nambu.com


RE: [twitter-dev] Re: Introduce yourself!

2010-02-22 Thread mycroftt



Howdy,

I'm Donald Page from Tennesse. I'm an unemployed wannabe programmer. My experience with the twitter API came after an acquaintance asked me to build him a twitter application. I built a quick and dirty app for him but his finances fel through and nothing came of it. After following the posts on this board I realized I could not spend my time chasing the ever-changing API and decided to stp the development in favor of projects I had a better chance with.

D. Page


RE: [twitter-dev] Question about licensing

2009-12-04 Thread mycroftt
Ryan,
 I realized a few months ago that there were some problems along the lines you have mentioned. I stopped development on my project partially due to these issues and the extremely plastic state of the API. I continue to watch this forum to keep abreast of the state of things but I doubt I will get back into twitter deveopment as an individual. Thanks for your question and I'll watch for the answer.


 Original Message Subject: Re: [twitter-dev] Question about licensingFrom: Ryan Sarver rsar...@twitter.comDate: Thu, December 03, 2009 11:51 amTo: twitter-development-talk@googlegroups.comJust an update from our end: I am still working with our General Counsel to get answers to the questions, but it's going to take a bit. So please bear with us but we'll get an update to you in the coming weeks after we get back from LeWeb.

Thanks, Ryan
On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 9:12 AM, DeWitt Clinton dclin...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi all,

I recently received a request to implement the "retweet" api calls in the python-twitter and java-twitter libraries, but before I proceed I was hoping for a bit of clarification around the licensing terms for the Twitter API.

My layman's understanding is that without explicit terms there are relatively few rights offered by default regarding a specification. In particular, I have a few questions about copyright, trademark, and patents rights being offered to implementors of the Twitter API. My longstanding sense is that Twitter has indicated the spirit of offering the API under generally permissive usage rights, so hopefully this thread can move the discussion forward a bit and perhaps turn that spirit into something more formal.


Copyright

Question: Under what terms may third-party library and application developers use the text and images associated with the Twitter API specification?

Example use case: Third-party library developers would like to copy and/or modify the text of the Twitter API specification in the library's documentation. This is preferred over inventing new text for the documentation, the meaning of which could deviate from the canonical version in the Twitter API specification.

Potential concern: Without a copyright license, implementors may not be permitted to use or reuse the Twitter API specification text in third-party library documentation.

Current state: While the Twitter API specification itself doesn't mention copyright, the Twitter Terms of Service(http://twitter.com/tos)state: "The Services are protected by copyright, trademark, and other laws of both the United States and foreign countries," which could reasonably be interpreted to apply to the Twitter API service as well.

Possible desired outcome: The Twitter API specification is made available under a permissive and derivative works-friendly copyright license, such as the Creative Commons BY or BY-SA license.


Trademark

Question: Under what terms may third-party library and application developers use the various registered service marks of Twitter, Inc? 

Example use case: Third-party library authors would like to use the words "twitter", "tweet", "retweet" (all live service marks of Twitter, Inc) in their libraries. This is preferred over third-party library authors inventing new terms for API methods such as "retweet".

Potential concern: Without terms that specify where and how the various registered marks can be used, third-party library implementors may or may not be permitted to use terms such as "twitter", "tweet", "retweet", etc., in their libraries.

Current state: The Twitter Terms of Service (http://twitter.com/tos) appear to prohibit such use: "Nothing in the Terms gives you a right to use the Twitter name or any of the Twitter trademarks, logos, domain names, and other distinctive brand features."

Possible desired outcome: Twitter publishes acceptable-use guidelines for registered marks in third-party libraries and third-party applications.


Patent

Question: Under what terms may third-party library and application developers make use of current or future patent claims made by Twitter, Inc?

Example use cases: A third-party developer may wish to implement an independent service that conforms to the Twitter API method signatures, or a third-party developer may wish to implement a library that implements portions of the Twitter API on the client.

Potential concern: Without terms that specify how third-party developers may use patent claims(if any)made by Twitter, Inc, implementors assume the risk of potentially infringing on current or future claims made by Twitter.

Current state: Twitter (to my knowledge) has made no statement regarding patent claims with respect to implementations of the Twitter API.

Possible desired outcome: The Twitter API specification is made available under a patent agreement, such as the Open Web Foundation Agreement (http://openwebfoundation.org/legal/), or a similarly permissive agreement, such as the Microsoft Open Specification Promise 

[twitter-dev] Re: Comments for the group and Twitter staff

2009-09-15 Thread mycroftt

I am only one person with too many irons in the fire. During the month or so that I spent actively working on the Twitter API project I had to go back and change partsmy code more than once, not because of my errors (plenty of those but not the subject of this communication), but because of changes or proposed changes in the API. I would love to be in a position where I could focus exclusvely on this one project but I am not. As well as an ongoing job search I have a couple other projectsshowing promise. I cannot justify more time on Twitter when I see no point where the project graduates from in-development to live and in maintenance mode.


 Original Message Subject: [twitter-dev] Re: Comments for the group and Twitter staffFrom: Ryan Sarver rsar...@twitter.comDate: Mon, September 14, 2009 11:59 pmTo: twitter-development-talk@googlegroups.comWyoKnott,Thanks for your email. We really appreciate the candid feedback anddefinitely is not something we want to see happening. I would like tohear more about what you mean by "not stable enough" and what specificissues we can work on that would get you to consider Twitter aplatform worthy of building your business on.I look forward to your feedback.Best, Ryan


[twitter-dev] Re: Twitter for Motorcycle Riders

2009-09-15 Thread mycroftt

Looks like a good opportunity for a niche twitter app. If I trusted the API a bit more I'd help you develop it. I'm sure there are several programmers thinking about it right now, once you exposed the idea.


 Original Message Subject: [twitter-dev] Twitter for Motorcycle RidersFrom: "Thomas Hirschmann" thomas.hirschm...@gmail.comDate: Tue, September 15, 2009 5:31 amTo: twitter-development-talk@googlegroups.com



Hi there.

I am a motorcycle freak and would like to know if there is a possibility to use twitter to improve motorcycle riding, e.g.

Ø finding out where the police is hiding to catch you for speeding
Ø finding out about the best motorcycle streets / routes
Ø finding out about the best overnight stays / hotels for riders
Ø finding out about the best food on the road
Ø finding out about other riders in my area

Could I help realize this with you?

Best regards,

Thomas


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