[twitter-dev] Re: Send @replies/mentions via SMS?
On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 11:34 AM, Derek Gathright drg...@gmail.com wrote: If you (or anyone else) is still looking for something, I have a bot that I wrote a while back at twitter.com/dmreply. Just request to follow, I'll approve, and then it will automatically forward any @replies to you via a DM. Your account has to be public as it uses Twitter Search to retrieve the tweets. Simple, requires no authentication info, unfollow at anytime to turn off the service. That's how I started, but then I realized that people I have blocked would be sent, and I have a (very) few followers whose updates are protected, and I wouldn't see there. Of course as soon as I finished this, I realized that what would be *better* for my use would actually be email notification of 'mentions', so that's what I'm working on now. The nice thing is that you're not bound to 140 characters in email, so I can also include what the message was in_reply_to (I have a few followers who @reply HOURS later and I often have no idea what they are referring to), and hopefully even a link to @reply back to them, including a proper in_reply_to also. I remembered trying to do it back in the Track days, but tracking @derek failed miserably as it dropped the @ and I instantly got swamped with tweets mentioning derek. Yeah, I'm thinking about using the search API for a roll my own track functionality too. TjL
[twitter-dev] Re: Send @replies/mentions via SMS?
Yeah, I'm thinking about using the search API for a roll my own track functionality too. Rebuilding Track is a fun little project. I've done it various ways, but the problem I always run into is the scalability once I publicize it. Early versions of my Twitter client (Tweenky) had the ability to track queries and have them delivered via SMS, email, DM, and XMPP. Having those delivery options on a per query basis made it very powerful as some things you care little about, but still wish to track (hourly aggregate by email). Other things have high priority and I want to be notified right away (via SMS). So, if you feel like building your own Track, consider various delivery methods per query, as well as keeping in mind the scalability if publicly launching it, cause it's easy to do up until that point. Most of my Twitter stuff is just private little projects, for that reason. Tweenky ( new.tweenky.com) being the exception, because now it's all written in Javascript and doesn't use any server-side code, eliminating the scalability issue. =) Good luck. On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 12:53 PM, TjL luo...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 11:34 AM, Derek Gathright drg...@gmail.com wrote: If you (or anyone else) is still looking for something, I have a bot that I wrote a while back at twitter.com/dmreply. Just request to follow, I'll approve, and then it will automatically forward any @replies to you via a DM. Your account has to be public as it uses Twitter Search to retrieve the tweets. Simple, requires no authentication info, unfollow at anytime to turn off the service. That's how I started, but then I realized that people I have blocked would be sent, and I have a (very) few followers whose updates are protected, and I wouldn't see there. Of course as soon as I finished this, I realized that what would be *better* for my use would actually be email notification of 'mentions', so that's what I'm working on now. The nice thing is that you're not bound to 140 characters in email, so I can also include what the message was in_reply_to (I have a few followers who @reply HOURS later and I often have no idea what they are referring to), and hopefully even a link to @reply back to them, including a proper in_reply_to also. I remembered trying to do it back in the Track days, but tracking @derek failed miserably as it dropped the @ and I instantly got swamped with tweets mentioning derek. Yeah, I'm thinking about using the search API for a roll my own track functionality too. TjL
[twitter-dev] Re: Send @replies/mentions via SMS?
and doesn't use any server-side code Well, let me clarify, uses *very little* server-side code. (before someone corrects me) On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 1:13 PM, Derek Gathright drg...@gmail.com wrote: Yeah, I'm thinking about using the search API for a roll my own track functionality too. Rebuilding Track is a fun little project. I've done it various ways, but the problem I always run into is the scalability once I publicize it. Early versions of my Twitter client (Tweenky) had the ability to track queries and have them delivered via SMS, email, DM, and XMPP. Having those delivery options on a per query basis made it very powerful as some things you care little about, but still wish to track (hourly aggregate by email). Other things have high priority and I want to be notified right away (via SMS). So, if you feel like building your own Track, consider various delivery methods per query, as well as keeping in mind the scalability if publicly launching it, cause it's easy to do up until that point. Most of my Twitter stuff is just private little projects, for that reason. Tweenky ( new.tweenky.com) being the exception, because now it's all written in Javascript and doesn't use any server-side code, eliminating the scalability issue. =) Good luck. On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 12:53 PM, TjL luo...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 11:34 AM, Derek Gathright drg...@gmail.com wrote: If you (or anyone else) is still looking for something, I have a bot that I wrote a while back at twitter.com/dmreply. Just request to follow, I'll approve, and then it will automatically forward any @replies to you via a DM. Your account has to be public as it uses Twitter Search to retrieve the tweets. Simple, requires no authentication info, unfollow at anytime to turn off the service. That's how I started, but then I realized that people I have blocked would be sent, and I have a (very) few followers whose updates are protected, and I wouldn't see there. Of course as soon as I finished this, I realized that what would be *better* for my use would actually be email notification of 'mentions', so that's what I'm working on now. The nice thing is that you're not bound to 140 characters in email, so I can also include what the message was in_reply_to (I have a few followers who @reply HOURS later and I often have no idea what they are referring to), and hopefully even a link to @reply back to them, including a proper in_reply_to also. I remembered trying to do it back in the Track days, but tracking @derek failed miserably as it dropped the @ and I instantly got swamped with tweets mentioning derek. Yeah, I'm thinking about using the search API for a roll my own track functionality too. TjL
[twitter-dev] Re: Send @replies/mentions via SMS?
Someone already developed an application that forwards mentions to DM (see here: http://apiwiki.twitter.com/Application-Ideas). When I tried it, it didn't work that good, but I think he did some changes since then. On May 11, 8:15 am, TjL luo...@gmail.com wrote: I've been banging my head against this for several days (when I've had free time) and wonder if maybe someone has already invented this wheel. I'm looking for a way to get @replies (sorry, I mean mentions) via SMS. *ahem* Ideally this would be an officially supported option listed inhttp://twitter.com/devices:-) *ahem* But, since it isn't :-) My idea has been to fetch thehttp://twitter.com/statuses/mentions.formatevery minute or so, check against a cache of previously sent mentions and send the new ones (as DMs to myself, since I have DMs forwarded to my cell via SMS already). This seems HUGELY inefficient (i.e. there will be a LOT of minutes throughout the day which return no new mentions) but I can't think of a more efficient way of getting them in a fairly timely manner. Thanks for any pointers. TjL
[twitter-dev] Re: Send @replies/mentions via SMS?
Hi, Just to let you know, I developed www.twe2.com exactly for this purpose. However, we have just been blocked by our SMS provider. It is a shame really because we sent 2 million SMS's to the Twitter community, Paul 2009/5/11 Arik Fraimovich arik...@gmail.com Someone already developed an application that forwards mentions to DM (see here: http://apiwiki.twitter.com/Application-Ideas). When I tried it, it didn't work that good, but I think he did some changes since then. On May 11, 8:15 am, TjL luo...@gmail.com wrote: I've been banging my head against this for several days (when I've had free time) and wonder if maybe someone has already invented this wheel. I'm looking for a way to get @replies (sorry, I mean mentions) via SMS. *ahem* Ideally this would be an officially supported option listed inhttp://twitter.com/devices:-) *ahem* But, since it isn't :-) My idea has been to fetch thehttp:// twitter.com/statuses/mentions.formatevery minute or so, check against a cache of previously sent mentions and send the new ones (as DMs to myself, since I have DMs forwarded to my cell via SMS already). This seems HUGELY inefficient (i.e. there will be a LOT of minutes throughout the day which return no new mentions) but I can't think of a more efficient way of getting them in a fairly timely manner. Thanks for any pointers. TjL
[twitter-dev] Re: Send @replies/mentions via SMS?
Why were you blocked? And there seems to be a lot of competition in this space (SMS Gateway providers) can’t you just go to someone else? -- Patrick Burrows http://Categorical.ly (the Best Twitter Client Possible) @Categorically From: twitter-development-talk@googlegroups.com [mailto:twitter-development-t...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Paul Kinlan Sent: Monday, May 11, 2009 9:44 AM To: twitter-development-talk@googlegroups.com Subject: [twitter-dev] Re: Send @replies/mentions via SMS? Hi, Just to let you know, I developed www.twe2.com exactly for this purpose. However, we have just been blocked by our SMS provider. It is a shame really because we sent 2 million SMS's to the Twitter community, Paul 2009/5/11 Arik Fraimovich arik...@gmail.com Someone already developed an application that forwards mentions to DM (see here: http://apiwiki.twitter.com/Application-Ideas). When I tried it, it didn't work that good, but I think he did some changes since then. On May 11, 8:15 am, TjL luo...@gmail.com wrote: I've been banging my head against this for several days (when I've had free time) and wonder if maybe someone has already invented this wheel. I'm looking for a way to get @replies (sorry, I mean mentions) via SMS. *ahem* Ideally this would be an officially supported option listed inhttp://twitter.com/devices:-) *ahem* But, since it isn't :-) My idea has been to fetch thehttp://twitter.com/statuses/mentions.formatevery minute or so, check against a cache of previously sent mentions and send the new ones (as DMs to myself, since I have DMs forwarded to my cell via SMS already). This seems HUGELY inefficient (i.e. there will be a LOT of minutes throughout the day which return no new mentions) but I can't think of a more efficient way of getting them in a fairly timely manner. Thanks for any pointers. TjL
[twitter-dev] Re: Send @replies/mentions via SMS?
If this is just for yourself, then you could send them through your carrier provided SMS to email gateway (as far as I know, every carrier provides one.) It is an email address that you can use to send yourself text messages. For instance, for ATT, it is yourphonenumber@txt.att.net. An email sent there will show up as a txt message on that person's phone. As far as actually getting the replies from Twitter -- polling every minute or so is the only way. Oh, and if this is for more than just yourself, there are 3rd party SMS Gateways that know all the formats for the different mobile carriers. Check out: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SMS_gateways -- Patrick Burrows http://Categorical.ly @Categorically -Original Message- From: twitter-development-talk@googlegroups.com [mailto:twitter-development-t...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of TjL Sent: Monday, May 11, 2009 1:16 AM To: twitter-development-talk@googlegroups.com Subject: [twitter-dev] Send @replies/mentions via SMS? I've been banging my head against this for several days (when I've had free time) and wonder if maybe someone has already invented this wheel. I'm looking for a way to get @replies (sorry, I mean mentions) via SMS. *ahem* Ideally this would be an officially supported option listed in http://twitter.com/devices :-) *ahem* But, since it isn't :-) My idea has been to fetch the http://twitter.com/statuses/mentions.format every minute or so, check against a cache of previously sent mentions and send the new ones (as DMs to myself, since I have DMs forwarded to my cell via SMS already). This seems HUGELY inefficient (i.e. there will be a LOT of minutes throughout the day which return no new mentions) but I can't think of a more efficient way of getting them in a fairly timely manner. Thanks for any pointers. TjL
[twitter-dev] Re: Send @replies/mentions via SMS?
Hi, We don't know why we were blocked, we had a commercial contract in place - but the provider aren't very forthcomming. The model that was used was an Adsense for mobiles, which meant that we were supposed to be paid for every message we processed, however the network never attached any adverts other than their own so we never got paid (but that has been the status quo for the last month). We were in talks with another company to buy our service from us and still use Wadja - we enquired to with Wadja to see if our contract was transferable; they cut us off. Finding another SMS gateway that will send messages worldwide for free is going to be hard - there is a reason why twitter pulled out of many markets (until they negotiated better deals - Vodafone etc). So if any twitters out there want to talk or know any one who can help we are all ears. To answer another question: not many phone networks provide Email to SMS - after all there is lots of money to be had for sending SMS's, even a 1pence/cent per SMS. But if you do have a provider that can accept emails then the whole process if very easy to replicate. Paul. 2009/5/11 Patrick Burrows pburr...@categorical.ly Why were you blocked? And there seems to be a lot of competition in this space (SMS Gateway providers) can’t you just go to someone else? -- Patrick Burrows http://Categorical.ly (the Best Twitter Client Possible) @Categorically *From:* twitter-development-talk@googlegroups.com [mailto: twitter-development-t...@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Paul Kinlan *Sent:* Monday, May 11, 2009 9:44 AM *To:* twitter-development-talk@googlegroups.com *Subject:* [twitter-dev] Re: Send @replies/mentions via SMS? Hi, Just to let you know, I developed www.twe2.com exactly for this purpose. However, we have just been blocked by our SMS provider. It is a shame really because we sent 2 million SMS's to the Twitter community, Paul 2009/5/11 Arik Fraimovich arik...@gmail.com Someone already developed an application that forwards mentions to DM (see here: http://apiwiki.twitter.com/Application-Ideas). When I tried it, it didn't work that good, but I think he did some changes since then. On May 11, 8:15 am, TjL luo...@gmail.com wrote: I've been banging my head against this for several days (when I've had free time) and wonder if maybe someone has already invented this wheel. I'm looking for a way to get @replies (sorry, I mean mentions) via SMS. *ahem* Ideally this would be an officially supported option listed inhttp://twitter.com/devices:-) *ahem* But, since it isn't :-) My idea has been to fetch thehttp:// twitter.com/statuses/mentions.formatevery minute or so, check against a cache of previously sent mentions and send the new ones (as DMs to myself, since I have DMs forwarded to my cell via SMS already). This seems HUGELY inefficient (i.e. there will be a LOT of minutes throughout the day which return no new mentions) but I can't think of a more efficient way of getting them in a fairly timely manner. Thanks for any pointers. TjL
[twitter-dev] Re: Send @replies/mentions via SMS?
hi, I am trying to develop an application using twitter API's(using twitter4j jar file). Can you suggest me a method to acess users replies without knowing the users password(I have the users username in the data base). Surya Sravanthi On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 7:14 PM, Paul Kinlan paul.kin...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Just to let you know, I developed www.twe2.com exactly for this purpose. However, we have just been blocked by our SMS provider. It is a shame really because we sent 2 million SMS's to the Twitter community, Paul 2009/5/11 Arik Fraimovich arik...@gmail.com Someone already developed an application that forwards mentions to DM (see here: http://apiwiki.twitter.com/Application-Ideas). When I tried it, it didn't work that good, but I think he did some changes since then. On May 11, 8:15 am, TjL luo...@gmail.com wrote: I've been banging my head against this for several days (when I've had free time) and wonder if maybe someone has already invented this wheel. I'm looking for a way to get @replies (sorry, I mean mentions) via SMS. *ahem* Ideally this would be an officially supported option listed inhttp://twitter.com/devices:-) *ahem* But, since it isn't :-) My idea has been to fetch thehttp://twitter.com/statuses/mentions.formatevery minute or so, check against a cache of previously sent mentions and send the new ones (as DMs to myself, since I have DMs forwarded to my cell via SMS already). This seems HUGELY inefficient (i.e. there will be a LOT of minutes throughout the day which return no new mentions) but I can't think of a more efficient way of getting them in a fairly timely manner. Thanks for any pointers. TjL
[twitter-dev] Re: Send @replies/mentions via SMS?
That sure is odd. I know this is off-topic, but have you tried to see if your customers would be willing to pay for the service you offer? Actually, it sounds like that is what you are going to have to do… -- Patrick Burrows http://Categorical.ly (the Best Twitter Client Possible) @Categorically From: twitter-development-talk@googlegroups.com [mailto:twitter-development-t...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Paul Kinlan Sent: Monday, May 11, 2009 10:56 AM To: twitter-development-talk@googlegroups.com Subject: [twitter-dev] Re: Send @replies/mentions via SMS? Hi, We don't know why we were blocked, we had a commercial contract in place - but the provider aren't very forthcomming. The model that was used was an Adsense for mobiles, which meant that we were supposed to be paid for every message we processed, however the network never attached any adverts other than their own so we never got paid (but that has been the status quo for the last month). We were in talks with another company to buy our service from us and still use Wadja - we enquired to with Wadja to see if our contract was transferable; they cut us off. Finding another SMS gateway that will send messages worldwide for free is going to be hard - there is a reason why twitter pulled out of many markets (until they negotiated better deals - Vodafone etc). So if any twitters out there want to talk or know any one who can help we are all ears. To answer another question: not many phone networks provide Email to SMS - after all there is lots of money to be had for sending SMS's, even a 1pence/cent per SMS. But if you do have a provider that can accept emails then the whole process if very easy to replicate. Paul. 2009/5/11 Patrick Burrows pburr...@categorical.ly Why were you blocked? And there seems to be a lot of competition in this space (SMS Gateway providers) can’t you just go to someone else? -- Patrick Burrows http://Categorical.ly (the Best Twitter Client Possible) @Categorically From: twitter-development-talk@googlegroups.com [mailto:twitter-development-t...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Paul Kinlan Sent: Monday, May 11, 2009 9:44 AM To: twitter-development-talk@googlegroups.com Subject: [twitter-dev] Re: Send @replies/mentions via SMS? Hi, Just to let you know, I developed www.twe2.com exactly for this purpose. However, we have just been blocked by our SMS provider. It is a shame really because we sent 2 million SMS's to the Twitter community, Paul 2009/5/11 Arik Fraimovich arik...@gmail.com Someone already developed an application that forwards mentions to DM (see here: http://apiwiki.twitter.com/Application-Ideas). When I tried it, it didn't work that good, but I think he did some changes since then. On May 11, 8:15 am, TjL luo...@gmail.com wrote: I've been banging my head against this for several days (when I've had free time) and wonder if maybe someone has already invented this wheel. I'm looking for a way to get @replies (sorry, I mean mentions) via SMS. *ahem* Ideally this would be an officially supported option listed inhttp://twitter.com/devices:-) *ahem* But, since it isn't :-) My idea has been to fetch thehttp://twitter.com/statuses/mentions.formatevery minute or so, check against a cache of previously sent mentions and send the new ones (as DMs to myself, since I have DMs forwarded to my cell via SMS already). This seems HUGELY inefficient (i.e. there will be a LOT of minutes throughout the day which return no new mentions) but I can't think of a more efficient way of getting them in a fairly timely manner. Thanks for any pointers. TjL
[twitter-dev] Re: Send @replies/mentions via SMS?
Well, I started over and about two hours later I had a script written. I've been testing / tweaking it today and it does seem to work. Basic premise is fairly simple, it checks http://twitter.com/statuses/mentions.rss?since_id=$LAST_ID; where $LAST_ID is stored in a text file as the last ID that was found/forwarded. I then send the message as a DM to myself, which has the added benefit of being able to use the http://twitter.com/devices setting for quiet hours already. (I have DMs sent to forward to my cell already) I also built in some rudimentary filtering to avoid some *people* (such as reTweet bots) and some regex (such as RT @tj and (via @tj) since I don't need/want those sent via SMS. One benefit of using the 'mentions' API vs the search API (which was what I had originally tried) is that it automatically excludes people that you have blocked, which search does not. My plan is to check it out for a few days, and if it seems to work I'll write up a description of how it works and post the code as well. If anyone would like to see it in its current state, drop me a note (preferably offlist, so everyone doesn't have to see it) at luo...@gmail.com TjL
