Re: [twsocket] Why is this list so slow?

2006-11-09 Thread Arno Garrels
DZ-Jay wrote:
 On Nov 4, 2006, at 03:24, Francois PIETTE wrote:
 The time frame to complete will be a few days.
 
 Sounds very reasonable.

Only it becomes slower and slower, the last message
I got (David Lewis, subject Testing (NM)) took one
day. The message from Johnnie Norsworthy, subject
EBay API SOAP Calls (SSL) was sent on 
7 Nov 2006 15:00:56 -0800 received here 09 Nov 2006 07:42:57 -.

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Re: [twsocket] Why is this list so slow?

2006-11-09 Thread Bjørnar Nielsen
Test (I send this message 9th november 10:00, +0100).

Regards Bjørnar

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 DZ-Jay wrote:
  On Nov 4, 2006, at 03:24, Francois PIETTE wrote:
  The time frame to complete will be a few days.
  
  Sounds very reasonable.
 
 Only it becomes slower and slower, the last message I got 
 (David Lewis, subject Testing (NM)) took one day. The message 
 from Johnnie Norsworthy, subject EBay API SOAP Calls (SSL) 
 was sent on
 7 Nov 2006 15:00:56 -0800 received here 09 Nov 2006 07:42:57 -.
 
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Re: [twsocket] Why is this list so slow?

2006-11-04 Thread Francois PIETTE
 I never noticed something like that. I think that _any_ mail now takes
 approximately 2 hours to process at elist.org. The delay started with
 30 minutes or so and grew to current 2 hours. 
 
 Is there anybody not having this problem?

 Looking back through emails from the list I receive, it seems
 that on October 30th the gap between TimeSent and
 TimeReceived started growing from the usual time of
 less than 5 minutes to about 15 minutes, to about 30
 minutes the next day, and now about 2 hours today.

I contacted the mailing list host administrator. Here is his explanation:

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This is due to the additional sender and recipient checking that is now 
in place. Postfix will no longer accept connections from invalid domains 
and unknown hosts. It will do a dns look-up for every inbound connection 
and also checks against the following dns blacklists before processing 
inbound messages:

http://www.spamhaus.org/sbl/index.lasso
http://dsbl.org/listing
http://www.njabl.org/
http://ordb.org/lookup/
http://www.de.sorbs.net/lookup.shtml

Any matches result in the connection being dropped.

Postfix now also checks for valid recipient domains when processing 
outbound emails. This is where the real bottleneck occurs, because there 
are so many invalid member email addresses in the various lists. When an 
invalid recipient domain is detected, the message sending is deferred 
and each deferred message added to the queue increases the processing 
time. Several hundred messages in the queue really slows things down.

Whilst this checking is causing problems now, it is better to stop the 
spam before it gets in the front door.

Fixing this involves filtering out the list of invalid recipient domains 
and email addresses and cross referencing them with the members email 
addresses and enabling the no mail option in the membership management 
screen. Once this is done the processing speed will improve considerably.

The time frame to complete will be a few days.

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Re: [twsocket] Why is this list so slow?

2006-11-04 Thread DZ-Jay

On Nov 4, 2006, at 03:24, Francois PIETTE wrote:
 The time frame to complete will be a few days.

Sounds very reasonable.

dZ.

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Re: [twsocket] Why is this list so slow?

2006-11-03 Thread Arno Garrels
Francois PIETTE wrote:
 Since two or three days mails posted to elist.org take one
 and a half hour until I receive them back. That's no fun :(
 
 No idea. I haven't noticed a particular slow down.

Would you please send me your headers of your reply to 
my initial mail, because in my headers elists.org caused
the delay of ~ 2 hours.
You sent your reply at 19:34:43 (UTC),
elists.org received it at 19:34:56 (UTC)  
elists.org internal received it at 21:29:40 (UTC)
My provider received it at 21:31:51 (UTC)


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Re: [twsocket] Why is this list so slow?

2006-11-03 Thread Wilfried Mestdagh
Hello Arno,

Latest time I regulary get reply's to some questions, and the questions
follow hours after it. Seems you have sortof same problem.

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Friday, November 3, 2006, 12:17, Arno Garrels wrote:

 Francois PIETTE wrote:
 Since two or three days mails posted to elist.org take one
 and a half hour until I receive them back. That's no fun :(
 
 No idea. I haven't noticed a particular slow down.

 Would you please send me your headers of your reply to 
 my initial mail, because in my headers elists.org caused
 the delay of ~ 2 hours.
 You sent your reply at 19:34:43 (UTC),
 elists.org received it at 19:34:56 (UTC)  
 elists.org internal received it at 21:29:40 (UTC)
 My provider received it at 21:31:51 (UTC)


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Re: [twsocket] Why is this list so slow?

2006-11-03 Thread Arno Garrels
Wilfried Mestdagh wrote:
 Hello Arno,
 
 Latest time I regulary get reply's to some questions, and the
 questions follow hours after it. Seems you have sortof same problem.

I never noticed something like that. I think that _any_ mail now takes
approximately 2 hours to process at elist.org. The delay started with
30 minutes or so and grew to current 2 hours. 

Is there anybody not having this problem?

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 Friday, November 3, 2006, 12:17, Arno Garrels wrote:
 
 Francois PIETTE wrote:
 Since two or three days mails posted to elist.org take one
 and a half hour until I receive them back. That's no fun :(
 
 No idea. I haven't noticed a particular slow down.
 
 Would you please send me your headers of your reply to
 my initial mail, because in my headers elists.org caused
 the delay of ~ 2 hours.
 You sent your reply at 19:34:43 (UTC),
 elists.org received it at 19:34:56 (UTC)
 elists.org internal received it at 21:29:40 (UTC)
 My provider received it at 21:31:51 (UTC)
 
 
 Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 X-Flags: 
 Delivered-To: GMX delivery to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 02 Nov 2006 21:31:51 -
 Received: from elists.org (EHLO elists.org) [64.34.172.189]
   by mx0.gmx.net (mx060) with SMTP; 02 Nov 2006 22:31:51 +0100
 Received: from elists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1])
  by elists.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6250465803D;
  Thu,  2 Nov 2006 21:29:40 + (UTC)
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 Delivered-To: twsocket@elists.org
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Re: [twsocket] Why is this list so slow?

2006-11-03 Thread Jeff Hamblin
 I never noticed something like that. I think that _any_ mail now takes
 approximately 2 hours to process at elist.org. The delay started with
 30 minutes or so and grew to current 2 hours. 
 
 Is there anybody not having this problem?
 


Looking back through emails from the list I receive, it seems
that on October 30th the gap between TimeSent and
TimeReceived started growing from the usual time of
less than 5 minutes to about 15 minutes, to about 30
minutes the next day, and now about 2 hours today.


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[twsocket] Why is this list so slow?

2006-11-02 Thread Arno Garrels
Hello,

Since two or three days mails posted to elist.org take one
and a half hour until I receive them back. That's no fun :(

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Re: [twsocket] Why is this list so slow?

2006-11-02 Thread Francois PIETTE
 Since two or three days mails posted to elist.org take one
 and a half hour until I receive them back. That's no fun :(

No idea. I haven't noticed a particular slow down.

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