Re: [U2] Newbies need love too

[Mark Johnson]

I've found that existing systems can offer a great learning area. Perhaps
not for the best programming styles. But it's usually pretty readable and
the newbies can relate to the inside based on what's happening on the
outside.

My 1 cent
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To: 
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 6:35 PM
Subject: Re: [U2] Newbies need love too


> On 1/31/06, Walter Vaughan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Is there not a "UniVerse for Dummies" website? Our sales rep asked his
> > programmer and he said, "I learned it 20 years ago, I don't know how you
would
> > learn it today."
> >
> > I have 23 and 28 year old programers that will have to live with this
solution
> > for the next 20 years. They're bright, but in order to get them excited
about
> > this platform I need to let them experiment.
>
> I'm not aware of any "introductory" material... you just have to dive in.
:)
>
> Have them install the Personal Edition on their development
> workstations, then go through the library of PDFs.
>
>  *
http://www14.software.ibm.com/webapp/download/search.jsp?go=y&rs=u2trials
>  *
http://www-306.ibm.com/software/data/u2/pubs/library/100univ/univ_101.html
>
> It goes without saying that they should be subscribed to u2-users!
>
> --
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Re: [U2][UV] Universe and SQL Server

[Ray Wurlod]

If UniVerse is on Windows, BCI calls are definitely the way to go.  IMHO, of 
course.
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[U2] Unidata/XML Newbie

[jbutera]

I have a need to export a Unidata (6.1.4) file as XML and later populate
data in the file from an XML document.  For the sake of simplicity, let's
assume that every field is single valued at the moment so the XML
document is quite simple - no nested fields, etc.  The only wrinkle
in this is that the XML field names will not match the DICT field names,
so something like

LIST FILENAME TOXML ELEMENTS ...

won't cut it for the export portion.  From the discussion here and my
reading, it appears that I can go the route of  PrepareXML, OpenXMLData,
ReadXMLData, CloseXMLData, ReleaseXML.

But then I stumbled upon DBOTXML, XMLTODB which seem simpler (at least
conceptually).  I'm not sure if I'm missing something obvious, and I know
at some point I have to create an XML mapping, just not sure which route
is the one I should try - so I'm asking those of you actively working with
with XML.

If anyone can advice on which avenue I should follow (even if it's
something I haven't listed above) I'd be grateful.

Jeff Butera, Ph.D.
Administrative Systems
Hampshire College
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
413-559-5556

"Hindsight alone is not wisdom."
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RE: [U2][UV] Universe and SQL Server

[Stuart . Boydell]

   The BEST WAY?? Is always my way of course .

   ... you might also consider the HTTP/XML type options. One of the lads
   here  is experimenting with a Web Service, using the UniVerse SOAP API
   and  SQL2005,  we're also currently using SQLXML quite successfully to
   update SQL2000...

   Stuart

   __

   Hello all,
   We  are currently looking into ways to share our data between universe
   and  SQL  Server,  and I am trying to get some suggestions on the best
   way  to  do  this.  We  are  currently generating text files in UV and
   ftp'ing those files to a designated location. We have a task scheduler
   that  picks  up  the  files when they arrive and inserts them into SQL
   server.  I  know  there  are  ways to communicate directly between SQL
   server  and  Universe and I am looking for the best way to do this. It
   doesn't  matter  if  Universe reaches out to SQL Server or vice versa.
   Thanks.

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RE: [U2][UV] Universe and SQL Server

[Tony Gravagno]

Just because you're exchanging data with a relational database doesn't mean
you need to use SQL or ODBC with U2.  You can use a middle-tier ADO.NET
dataset, and then use that as your data source for SQL Server or Universe.
For ADO.NET to U2 connectivity I'd use mv.NET, but you can use any tool
available in this market once you setup the structures.   The way you're
doing this now, and this middle-tier approach, both allow you some freedom
to make the data exchanges asynchronously - if one system is down the other
can continue exporting or importing data with the middle tier.  You don't
have that option if you go direct from Universe to relational.  It also
allows you to change your data extraction methods without affecting the
"other" side:  If you're doing SQL queries from Universe, you need someone
who understands both SQL and Universe to get in and make changes.  If you
keep the sides separate then you don't need one person with all skillsets.

mv.NET is ideal for this sort of thing.  With one of the built-in libraries
(Core Objects) you can exchange data just with calls to BASIC rules, or you
can open files and process dynamic arrays directly using familiar syntax
from VB.NET, C#, or other languages.  With another included library
(Adapter Objects) you can use SQL-like syntax with DICT references for
doing retrievals _and_ insert/update/delete operations.

With SQL Server 2005 now allowing managed code for stored procedures, SQL
Server is actually getting closer to the MV model, with code inside the
environment itself.  I haven't tried this, but I'd guess you could use
mv.NET or UO.NET directly within SQL Server to poll Universe for data.

The session pooling capabilities in mv.NET also allow for many users to
process queries from a single DBMS license.  Of course higher traffic or
longer operations will require more licenses, but for short burst
transactions this can be very economical.  For a single process that sends
data from Universe to SQL Server you only need one low-cost license.

If you want to do this without getting an mv.NET developer license, I'll be
happy to whip up a data exchange component to suit your needs,  it would
run as a Windows service that exchanges data in the background.  I've been
wanting to do this for a while anyway.  The advantage of having a developer
license of course is that instead of purchasing a single-use component
you'll have a general purpose toolkit for doing all sorts of things.

E-mail for more info:
Tony Gravagno
TG@ removethisNebula-RnD.com


Nick Cipollina wrote:
> Hello all,
> 
> We are currently looking into ways to share our data
> between universe and SQL Server, and I am trying to get
> some suggestions on the best way to do this.  We are
> currently generating text files in UV and ftp'ing those
> files to a designated location.  We have a task scheduler
> that picks up the files when they arrive and inserts them
> into SQL server.  I know there are ways to communicate
> directly between SQL server and Universe and I am looking
> for the best way to do this.  It doesn't matter if
> Universe reaches out to SQL Server or vice versa. 
> Thanks.  
> 
> Nick Cipollina
> 
> Pick Programmer
> ACS Heritage, Inc.
> 2810 North Parham Road, Suite 210
> Richmond, VA 23294
> (804)644-8707 x 314
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RE: [U2] Re: XML Issue

[Stuart . Boydell]

   Nancy,

   I  am  presuming that you are opening the document using a text editor
   and then saving it to an operating system file, not a U2 file??

   XML is `structure' agnostic. The layout of an XML document when opened
   in  a  text  editor (for example) is unaffected by the encoding of the
   document.

   What  you  are  seeing is probably just the difference in how the line
   feeds are represented in your text editor.

   If  you  need  to manipulate the XML before writing it, use a specific
   XML  editor  like  XMLSpy.  Otherwise  a text editor like EditPlus can
   figure out your linefeeds and is also excellent for dealing with XML.

   If  you  want  to  view  the  document  with `pretty' layout, open the
   document with a web browser (Firefox, Internet Explorer etc).

   Cheers,

   Stuart

   __

   From: "Nancy Fisher"

   However  it is different than the download I get with the heading that
   COMES
   WITH 'UTF-8'.
   That  download  has a better 'structure' when it comes with UTF-8 than
   with
   ISO-8850-1...

   And  in  the 2nd download I have to remove linefeeds before writing to
   the
   file.
   (p.s.  Is  there a convention for changing the heading? I just replace
   and
   append...)

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RE: [U2] Telnet on Windows 2003 Server

[Mike Randall]

Craig,

Thank you.  That cleared up the problem.

-Original Message-
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ross Craig
Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 6:57 PM
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Subject: RE: [U2] Telnet on Windows 2003 Server

It's a file permission issue.  You need to allow non-admin users
permission to write to the UV directory.  Do not share this directory.

Ross


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Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 3:20 PM
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Subject: [U2] Telnet on Windows 2003 Server

On a fresh install of UV on Windows 2003 server, only admin users can
telnet
in.   

Any ideas?

TIA

Mike
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Re: [U2][UV] Universe and SQL Server

[Wendy Smoak]

On 2/2/06, Nick Cipollina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>  I know there are ways to communicate directly between SQL
> server and Universe and I am looking for the best way to do this.

(Caveat:  my experience is with UniData.)

What OS is UniVerse running on?  If it's Windows, you can easily
access an ODBC data source from UniBasic using 'BCI'.

If it's Unix, it's going to depend on the precise combination of your
OS, and whether a driver and driver manager is available for the
target DB (SQL Server in this case.)

It ought to work in the other direction as well, UniVerse as an ODBC
data *source*, but I've never managed to get it to work.  (Probably
more due to Datatel than UniData.)

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RE: [U2][UV] Universe and SQL Server {Unclassified}

[HENDERSON MIKE, MR]

Use the UV Basic SQL client Interface (BCI) to directly update the
SQL-Server database.

The example program in the BCI manual is complete rubbish, the CONNECT
program in BP file in the UV account is a bit better.

There are some good examples in the Knowledge Base written by Paul Chang
at IBM Denver.
Try Q00178, Q00179, Q00180 , Q00182 - Q00187.


HTH


Mike

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nick Cipollina
> Sent: Friday, 3 February 2006 10:41
> To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
> Subject: [U2][UV] Universe and SQL Server
> 
> Hello all,
> 
> We are currently looking into ways to share our data between 
> universe and SQL Server, and I am trying to get some 
> suggestions on the best way to do this.  We are currently 
> generating text files in UV and ftp'ing those files to a 
> designated location.  We have a task scheduler that picks up 
> the files when they arrive and inserts them into SQL server.  
> I know there are ways to communicate directly between SQL 
> server and Universe and I am looking for the best way to do 
> this.  It doesn't matter if Universe reaches out to SQL 
> Server or vice versa.  Thanks.
> 
> Nick Cipollina
>  
> Pick Programmer
> ACS Heritage, Inc.
> 2810 North Parham Road, Suite 210
> Richmond, VA 23294
> (804)644-8707 x 314
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RE: [U2][UV] Universe and SQL Server

[Janet Bond]

Hi Nick,

We have a few solutions to your project at FusionWare. 

The most elegant solution is our mv2SQL product. It is very fast,
reliable and we have many customers using this product. Your processes
can be scheduled with DTS or run live.

If you would like further information on this or other solutions please
call me at 1.866.266.23.26 x159

Regards
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FusionWare Corporation
Development
409 Granville Street, Suite 1155
Vancouver, BC V6C 1T2

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Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2006 1:41 PM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: [U2][UV] Universe and SQL Server

Hello all,

We are currently looking into ways to share our data between universe
and SQL Server, and I am trying to get some suggestions on the best way
to do this.  We are currently generating text files in UV and ftp'ing
those files to a designated location.  We have a task scheduler that
picks up the files when they arrive and inserts them into SQL server.  I
know there are ways to communicate directly between SQL server and
Universe and I am looking for the best way to do this.  It doesn't
matter if Universe reaches out to SQL Server or vice versa.  Thanks.

Nick Cipollina
 
Pick Programmer
ACS Heritage, Inc.
2810 North Parham Road, Suite 210
Richmond, VA 23294
(804)644-8707 x 314
 
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RE: [U2][UV] Universe and SQL Server

[Bill Haskett]

Nick:

I wonder how well an ODBC linked table can scale?

Bill
 

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nick 
> Cipollina
> Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2006 1:41 PM
> To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
> Subject: [U2][UV] Universe and SQL Server
> 
> Hello all,
> 
> We are currently looking into ways to share our data between 
> universe and SQL Server, and I am trying to get some 
> suggestions on the best way to do this.  We are currently 
> generating text files in UV and ftp'ing those files to a 
> designated location.  We have a task scheduler that picks up 
> the files when they arrive and inserts them into SQL server.  
> I know there are ways to communicate directly between SQL 
> server and Universe and I am looking for the best way to do 
> this.  It doesn't matter if Universe reaches out to SQL 
> Server or vice versa.  Thanks.
> 
> Nick Cipollina
>  
> Pick Programmer
> ACS Heritage, Inc.
> 2810 North Parham Road, Suite 210
> Richmond, VA 23294
> (804)644-8707 x 314
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Re: [U2][UV] Universe and SQL Server

[John Hester]

Nick Cipollina wrote:

We are currently looking into ways to share our data between universe and SQL 
Server, and I am trying to get some suggestions on the best way to do this.  We 
are currently generating text files in UV and ftp'ing those files to a 
designated location.  We have a task scheduler that picks up the files when 
they arrive and inserts them into SQL server.  I know there are ways to 
communicate directly between SQL server and Universe and I am looking for the 
best way to do this.  It doesn't matter if Universe reaches out to SQL Server 
or vice versa.  Thanks.


We accomplish this via UV's BCI and a 3rd party ODBC driver from 
OpenLink.  We have a cron job that runs every 3 minutes to insert 
changes on the UV side into SQL Server and pick up SQL Server changes to 
put into UV.  There are triggers on the SQL side that write to a temp 
SQL database whenever a field we keep in sync is changed by a Windows 
application.  UV picks up these records and deletes them from the temp 
file.  When UV needs to send a change to SQL Server, it's inserted in 
another temp SQL database, where a trigger there inserts it into the 
live SQL database and deletes the temp entry.  We've been doing this for 
about 3 years now, and it works very well.


There are a handful of 3rd party ODBC software companies out there: 
OpenLink, DataDirect, and EasySoft.  We chose OpenLink because it works 
for UV on linux.  A good place to start would be to get hold of the UV 
BCI pdf documentation (either from your installation CD or the IBM web 
site), then get an evaluation copy from one or all of the above ODBC 
software vendors.


Of course, all of this is only useful if you're running UV on linux or 
unix.  If you're running it on Windows I don't think you need to worry 
about 3rd party ODBC drivers, but someone who's more familiar with that 
setup can probably tell you for sure.


-John
--
John Hester
System & Network Administrator
Momentum Group Inc.
(949) 833-8886 x623
http://memosamples.com
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RE: [U2][UV] Universe and SQL Server

[Mike Rajkowski]

Nick wrote: 
"We are currently looking into ways to share our data between universe
and SQL Server..."

I am in the process of trying to set up an OLE DB connection from SQL
Server to Unidata.  Has any one done this?  Can you provide example
connection strings?

Link server properties ask for Product name, Data source, provider
string location and catalog.

I would assume that the connection should be similar for both unidata
and universe, and would also like to know if there is an easier way to
connect.
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[U2] Jeremy Woods/WA/QBE/Insurance is out of the office.

[Jeremy Woods]

I will be out of the office starting  03/02/2006 and will not return until
14/02/2006.

I will respond to your message when I return.


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[U2][UV] Universe and SQL Server

[Nick Cipollina]

Hello all,

We are currently looking into ways to share our data between universe and SQL 
Server, and I am trying to get some suggestions on the best way to do this.  We 
are currently generating text files in UV and ftp'ing those files to a 
designated location.  We have a task scheduler that picks up the files when 
they arrive and inserts them into SQL server.  I know there are ways to 
communicate directly between SQL server and Universe and I am looking for the 
best way to do this.  It doesn't matter if Universe reaches out to SQL Server 
or vice versa.  Thanks.

Nick Cipollina
 
Pick Programmer
ACS Heritage, Inc.
2810 North Parham Road, Suite 210
Richmond, VA 23294
(804)644-8707 x 314
 
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RE: [U2] phantom COMO file message

[Baakkonen, Rodney A (Rod) 46K]

Here is one we get when some one does not correctly code a program running
as a Phantom:

at line 528 illegal terminal input request for background job
PHANTOM process 27830 has completed.

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> On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> Sorry, I was not clear,  I know where the _PH_ records are 
> and how to view and create them, I was asking for a listing 
> of various messages that Unidata would write to them, not 
> just what is captured by the PHANTOM or COMO ON commands as out
put.
> Thanks!
> 
> > For example, when is this message written out?:
> > 
> > "PHANTOM process 392716 has completed."

I only recall seeing the "has completed" message, even if the
process aborted or was killed.  There might be an error message
above it but there's no guarantee of that.

 - jmh
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[U2] DesignBais at Seattle Area Pick Users Group February 16th

[Ross Morrissey]

Please join SAPUG on Thursday, February 16th for an afternoon technical
workshop and evening presentation by DesignBais.
 
Dave Bryant, President, and Rick Weiser, Technical Manager at DesignBais
International will be on hand to present the features and benefits of
the DesignBais environment.  
 
In the afternoon, Rick will provide a technical overview of the features
of DesignBais, a functionally rich toolset that enables MultiValue
developers to design and create enterprise wide web-based applications.
DesignBais makes MultiValue developers into web developers without
needing to know technologies such as Java, HTML, or ASP required. After
dinner, Dave will cover news about the company and its future plans for
features and functionality.
 
The Seattle Area Pick Users Group meets at the Paragon (formally Ramada
Inn, formally the small Doubletree Inn, formally the small Red Lion,
etc.) and it is still at 818 112th Ave NE, Bellevue.
 
The meeting costs $30.00 if you register in advance ($35.00 if you just
show up). If you come to any part of the meeting, you need to pay since
we will be charged whether you eat dinner or not.
 
3:00 - 5:00: DesignBais technical overview.
5:30 - 6:45: Networking
6:45 - 8:00: Dinner
8:00 - 9:00: DesignBais presentation by Dave Bryant
 
Note the date and times and RSVP today
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RE: [U2] phantom COMO file message

[colin.alfke]

It will print anything/everything that would go to the terminal screen
if it was running the program.

If you simply scan for "process complete" it will not tell you if the
process finished properly. For example, if the program hits an error
condition that you have a "press  to continue" type prompt/input
there will be an error message in the _PH_ file about: phantom requires
input, error 3, process complete. In this case the program certainly
didn't finish properly.

I think this error code is returned to the calling process. However, our
quick and dirty way around it was to simply create an item in a file
saying the program was in process and then delete it when done. We did
this primarily so that the program could only be run once - but it works
for this as well.

Hth
Colin Alfke
Calgary, Canada

>-Original Message-
>From: TVankirk
>
>Sorry, I was not clear,  I know where the _PH_ records are and 
>how to view and create them, I was asking for a listing of 
>various messages that Unidata would write to them, not just 
>what is captured by the PHANTOM or COMO ON commands as out put.
>Thanks!
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RE: [U2] phantom COMO file message

[Horn, John]

> On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> Sorry, I was not clear,  I know where the _PH_ records are 
> and how to view and create them, I was asking for a listing 
> of various messages that Unidata would write to them, not 
> just what is captured by the PHANTOM or COMO ON commands as out
put.
> Thanks!
> 
> > For example, when is this message written out?:
> > 
> > "PHANTOM process 392716 has completed."

I only recall seeing the "has completed" message, even if the
process aborted or was killed.  There might be an error message
above it but there's no guarantee of that.

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RE: [U2] phantom COMO file message

[Jeff Schasny]

The messages in the &PH& file are whatever the output of your applications
program provides.

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Sorry, I was not clear,  I know where the _PH_ records are and how to view
and create them, I was asking for a listing of various messages that
Unidata would write to them, not just what is captured by the PHANTOM or
COMO ON commands as out put.
Thanks!




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They are in the &PH& file.  Here is an example;

>CLEAR.FILE DATA &PH&
File "&PH&" has been cleared.
>PHANTOM COUNT CF
Phantom process started with process ID 17087.
[17087] Done: COUNT CF
>LIST &PH&

LIST &PH& 12:49:43  02-02-06  PAGE 1
OS filename...

COUNT_46180_13913

1 records listed.
>

46180 IS THE TIME 12:49:40 AND 13913 IS THE DATE 02/02/06

Another way to track things is by doing COMO ON whatever, in each
PAragraph.  The problem with this is that each time you run the job it
will step on the last one possibly hiding errors.  Another thing to look
at is the error log for Universe.  On our system is in in
/usr/ibm/uv/errlog.  Basically the Universe home directory.  If the file
doesn't exist, then just create it and Universe will start logging to
it.

Anthony

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> Does anyone know where I might get a list of COMO file
> messages that are
> written out by phantoms, when different issues come up in the
> programs,
> being ran by the PHANTOM command?
>
> For example, when is this message written out?:
>
> "PHANTOM process 392716 has completed."
>
> Is this simply written everytime the process that created the
> COMO file
> ended for any reason? What if an error state is encountered? What if
> killed by an admin? What about a core dump? Etc.
>
> Our programmers relate "has completed" with a successful
> completion of the
> program.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Tom VanKirk
> Systems Admin
> Kraftmaid Cabinetry Inc.
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RE: [U2] Calendar and Contacts (UV)

[Tony Gravagno]

Tom Dodds wrote:
> Does anyone know of a good set of tools for UniVerse that
> has integrated Contacts and Calendaring capabilities.  We
> would prefer the tools to be written in Basic with no
> need for outside routines.  We are running UV 
> 10.1.17 on AIX 5.2.3

Tom, you'll have to describe for us what you really want in a Contacts and
Calendering tool - there are so many different ways to implement this
depending on the unique needs of a site.  Outside of Desqtop I doubt you'll
find a set of generic tools in BASIC for this unless you purchase an app
which has it included as one module of many.

(This applies to pretty much any "I'd like to connect U2 to ..." questions)
If you're open to creating a BASIC interface to outside code (probably
going to be a requirement) then there are plenty of Open Source CRM and
Calendar/Scheduling solutions out there, including OpenOffice.  You need to
research the API for the specific software, work out the interface with
Universe, and create a BASIC API to faciliate app calls.  Again, there is
no one-size-fits-all solution here because everyone wants something
different.  I'm guessing your solution will be to find something you like
outside of the MV space and then to work out the Universe integration.

There seems to be a newfound appreciation for integration of MV with MS
Office for these functions: I've been asked to work on two other projects
to integrate Microsoft Outlook (w/wo Exchange) with Universe.  Please have
a look at this page which describes a product no longer being offered:
http://removethisNebula-RnD.com/products/manager.htm  Rather than selling
this as a development tool I'm offering development services using some of
my tools plus custom code.  If it seems of interest we can talk.

HTH
Tony
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RE: [U2] phantom COMO file message

[TVankirk]

Sorry, I was not clear,  I know where the _PH_ records are and how to view 
and create them, I was asking for a listing of various messages that 
Unidata would write to them, not just what is captured by the PHANTOM or 
COMO ON commands as out put.
Thanks!




"Anthony Dzikiewicz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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They are in the &PH& file.  Here is an example;

>CLEAR.FILE DATA &PH&
File "&PH&" has been cleared.
>PHANTOM COUNT CF
Phantom process started with process ID 17087.
[17087] Done: COUNT CF
>LIST &PH&
 
LIST &PH& 12:49:43  02-02-06  PAGE 1
OS filename...
 
COUNT_46180_13913
 
1 records listed.
>

46180 IS THE TIME 12:49:40 AND 13913 IS THE DATE 02/02/06

Another way to track things is by doing COMO ON whatever, in each
PAragraph.  The problem with this is that each time you run the job it
will step on the last one possibly hiding errors.  Another thing to look
at is the error log for Universe.  On our system is in in
/usr/ibm/uv/errlog.  Basically the Universe home directory.  If the file
doesn't exist, then just create it and Universe will start logging to
it.

Anthony

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> 
> 
> Does anyone know where I might get a list of COMO file 
> messages that are 
> written out by phantoms, when different issues come up in the 
> programs, 
> being ran by the PHANTOM command?
> 
> For example, when is this message written out?:
> 
> "PHANTOM process 392716 has completed."
> 
> Is this simply written everytime the process that created the 
> COMO file 
> ended for any reason? What if an error state is encountered? What if 
> killed by an admin? What about a core dump? Etc.
> 
> Our programmers relate "has completed" with a successful 
> completion of the 
> program.
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Tom VanKirk
> Systems Admin
> Kraftmaid Cabinetry Inc.
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RE: [U2] Calendar and Contacts (UV)

[D Averch]

We have Customer Resource Management (CRM) package that is written in
Universe/Unidata Basic.  Instead of a plain green screen look and feel, we
use the Web as the front end allows the users to interact with what they are
use to. Check us out at www.u2logic.com.


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Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2006 8:34 AM
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Subject: [U2] Calendar and Contacts (UV)

Does anyone know of a good set of tools for UniVerse that has integrated
Contacts and Calendaring capabilities.  We would prefer the tools to be
written in Basic with no need for outside routines.  We are running UV
10.1.17 on AIX 5.2.3

 

Thanks for the help.

 

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RE: [U2] phantom COMO file message

[Barry Rogen]

Try  the  &PH& file

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Does anyone know where I might get a list of COMO file messages that are

written out by phantoms, when different issues come up in the programs, 
being ran by the PHANTOM command?

For example, when is this message written out?:

"PHANTOM process 392716 has completed."

Is this simply written everytime the process that created the COMO file 
ended for any reason? What if an error state is encountered? What if 
killed by an admin? What about a core dump? Etc.

Our programmers relate "has completed" with a successful completion of
the 
program.

Thanks!

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Kraftmaid Cabinetry Inc.
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RE: [U2] phantom COMO file message

[Anthony Dzikiewicz]

They are in the &PH& file.  Here is an example;

>CLEAR.FILE DATA &PH&
File "&PH&" has been cleared.
>PHANTOM COUNT CF
Phantom process started with process ID 17087.
[17087] Done: COUNT CF
>LIST &PH&
 
LIST &PH& 12:49:43  02-02-06  PAGE 1
OS filename...
 
COUNT_46180_13913
 
1 records listed.
>

46180 IS THE TIME 12:49:40 AND 13913 IS THE DATE 02/02/06

Another way to track things is by doing COMO ON whatever, in each
PAragraph.  The problem with this is that each time you run the job it
will step on the last one possibly hiding errors.  Another thing to look
at is the error log for Universe.  On our system is in in
/usr/ibm/uv/errlog.  Basically the Universe home directory.  If the file
doesn't exist, then just create it and Universe will start logging to
it.

Anthony

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> Subject: [U2] phantom COMO file message
> 
> 
> Does anyone know where I might get a list of COMO file 
> messages that are 
> written out by phantoms, when different issues come up in the 
> programs, 
> being ran by the PHANTOM command?
> 
> For example, when is this message written out?:
> 
> "PHANTOM process 392716 has completed."
> 
> Is this simply written everytime the process that created the 
> COMO file 
> ended for any reason? What if an error state is encountered? What if 
> killed by an admin? What about a core dump? Etc.
> 
> Our programmers relate "has completed" with a successful 
> completion of the 
> program.
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Tom VanKirk
> Systems Admin
> Kraftmaid Cabinetry Inc.
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RE: [U2] [OT] Where's my voting instructions?

[Dana Baron]

For those of you on this list who are U2UG members, you should be receiving
instructions for voting in this year's board election soon. Due to
"technical difficulties" (mostly caused by me), the election has been
delayed. Stay tuned!

Thanks for your patience,

Dana Baron
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[U2] high CPU used

[Luis Castro]

Hi,
We need to know if is normal that CPU work more than Memory in UNIDATA.
I saw many Databases (Oracle, SQL Server, Sybase)  that work more with
Memory, but in that case Unidata has a high CPU use. Does anyone has the
same behavior.


Platform: Unidata 7.1, SB+ 5.1 and Windows 2000 Advance Server, IBM Intel
Xeon, 4 CPU's and 4GB RAM


Is normal that Unidata has a high CPU (70%) over 15% of Memory.


Thanks

Regards



Luis



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RE: [U2] high CPU used

[colin.alfke]

Basically, it depends on what you are doing. Does task manager show a
udt.exe process consuming the CPU? Usually it is something else on the
server that is running - especially poorly configured virus checkers. A
report on a poorly sized file may do it as well.

Hth
Colin Alfke
Calgary, Canada 

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>
>Hi,
>We need to know if is normal that CPU work more than Memory in UNIDATA.
>I saw many Databases (Oracle, SQL Server, Sybase)  that work 
>more with Memory, but in that case Unidata has a high CPU use. 
>Does anyone has the same behavior.
>
>
>Platform: Unidata 7.1, SB+ 5.1 and Windows 2000 Advance 
>Server, IBM Intel Xeon, 4 CPU's and 4GB RAM
>
>
>Is normal that Unidata has a high CPU (70%) over 15% of Memory.
>
>
>Thanks
>
>Regards
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[U2] phantom COMO file message

[TVankirk]

Does anyone know where I might get a list of COMO file messages that are 
written out by phantoms, when different issues come up in the programs, 
being ran by the PHANTOM command?

For example, when is this message written out?:

"PHANTOM process 392716 has completed."

Is this simply written everytime the process that created the COMO file 
ended for any reason? What if an error state is encountered? What if 
killed by an admin? What about a core dump? Etc.

Our programmers relate "has completed" with a successful completion of the 
program.

Thanks!

Tom VanKirk
Systems Admin
Kraftmaid Cabinetry Inc.
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[U2] NFA issues

[TVankirk]

We are having issues with nfa file opens failing with errors on 
Unidata 6.1: 

In /usr/ud61/sys/CTLG/g/GET.RAW.COMPONENT.FOR.WIP.COMPONENT at line 11, 
Your NFA server has gone down, errno is 0.

011:   OPEN '','U.DATA' TO FILE.FL ELSE

:ED VOC U.DATA
Top of "U.DATA" in "VOC", 3 lines, 52 characters.
001: FX
002: UDT
003: MACHINE remote, VOC /remote/apps/KMC, FILE DATA
Bottom.

We have verified that the file and pointer are correct and 
accessible. My thought  is that the remote nfauser session that was opened 
had died for some reason and the next time Unidata went to open this file, 
it fails. 
Should'nt Unidata be smart enough to spawn a new nfauser process, 
if the last one is no longer valid? It appears that it simply fails 
outright, instead of retrying with a new process.
Anyone having similiar issues?

AIX 5.2.06
Unidata 6.1

Tom Vankirk
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Re: [U2] Calendar and Contacts (UV)

[Richard Sammartino]

Tom,  We have used the Desqtop product from Monolith Corp.  It is written 
in Pick/Basic and has callable subroutine that can be integrated into your 
own software if you like.  It has a calendar, rolodex,  phone messages, 
spell checker etc.  I don't know if the product is still available but it 
is worth a try.


Richard Sammartino

At 10:33 AM 2/2/2006 -0500, you wrote:

Does anyone know of a good set of tools for UniVerse that has integrated
Contacts and Calendaring capabilities.  We would prefer the tools to be
written in Basic with no need for outside routines.  We are running UV
10.1.17 on AIX 5.2.3



Thanks for the help.



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RE: [U2] [UV] Trouble starting logs on Win Server 2003

[Anthony Caufield]

This particular system has had an upgrade to UV since the last service
pack was installed.

Tony

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Just a thought - have you tried this on a non-service packed
environment?

I seem to recall something where, when you have service packed, you may
have to reinstall the U2 DB...

Can't find any references - but under the circumstances - you may find
it useful to consider? 

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Subject: [U2] [UV] Trouble starting logs on Win Server 2003

When I try to start a counter log in Windows Server 2003 Performance
Monitor, I get the error "log or alert has not started. Refresh the log
or alert list to view current status, or see the application event log
for any errors."

I am in the Administrators Group. I can watch the stats, I just cannot
get a log to capture them.

Anyone been down this path? I've been reading tech docs over on
Microsoft 'til my eyes are crossed .

Thanks for any answers, leads, or suggestions.


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RE: [U2] Telnet on Windows 2003 Server

[Eppel,Gary]

Be sure to set your Telnet Policy in UniAdmin to Any Account.

Also, as Ross indicates in his response, you need to check permissions.
According to UV Support, there are permission setting problems with the
UV install on Win2003. They first had me set permissions on the uvtemp
subdirectory under uv so that Everyone had Full access to it. I found
that this allowed for logins but not for certain TCL activities. So I
went ahead and set Everyone permissions to Full access for all of uv,
which fixed the latter problem. This may have been overkill but so far
no side effects have been noted.

Gary


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On a fresh install of UV on Windows 2003 server, only admin users can
telnet
in.  

Any ideas?

TIA

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[U2] Calendar and Contacts (UV)

[Tom Dodds]

Does anyone know of a good set of tools for UniVerse that has integrated
Contacts and Calendaring capabilities.  We would prefer the tools to be
written in Basic with no need for outside routines.  We are running UV
10.1.17 on AIX 5.2.3

 

Thanks for the help.

 

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Re: [U2] [OT] Where's my voting instructions?

[Gordon J Glorfield]

Thank you, Dawn.


Gordon J. Glorfield
Sr. Applications Developer
MAMSI (A UnitedHealth Company)
301-360-8839

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> On 2/1/06, Gordon J Glorfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > In a message yesterday, it was mentioned that we would be receiving 
our
> > voting instructions today.  Will that still be forthcoming?

> Good question, Gordon.  Unless something changes the circumstances in
> the next couple of hours, we will be sending something like the
> following to the U2UG members soon.:

> [U2UG] Board Elections

> Due to unexpected events, the U2UG board elections are being delayed
> with the entire schedule moved back five days.  The board apologizes
> for this inconvenience.  --dawn
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RE: [U2] Telnet on Windows 2003 Server

[colin.alfke]

We also set the policies for "log on locally" and "access this computer
from the network" to allow for the proper group members.

Hth
Colin Alfke
Calgary, Canada 

>-Original Message-
>From: Mike Randall
>
>On a fresh install of UV on Windows 2003 server, only admin 
>users can telnet
>in.   
>
>Any ideas?
>
>TIA
>
>Mike
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RE: [U2] [UV] SOAP interface

[phil walker]

Problem fixed...it seems by changing localhost to my machine name seemd
to fix the problem.hmmm

I guess in production this would be the case anyway, but I wonder why
this would cause a problem?

Oh well

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of phil walker
Sent: Thursday, 2 February 2006 3:31 p.m.
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: [U2] [UV] SOAP interface

I have the following program which I am testing to try and connect to a
webservice to gain understanding about how this all works and what is
and is not possible.
 
I run and rerun the program over and over without logging off, and get a
variety of results with the SoapSubmitRequest returing either a 0 or 2,
mainly 2 which is a timeout. The Soap status, is either 200 (OK) or 100
(continue).
 
As you can see the first run time outs, timeout set to 1000ms, but the
response does get logged in the protocol log, with the following entry:
 
02/02/2006 13:50:22 readSocket 1: The virtual circuit was terminated due
to a time-out or other failure. The application should close the socket
as it is no longer usable.
 
I believe readSocket is an underlying UV socket library call. One
question I have is what is the application, is that UV, is that my basic
program, and how can I close the socket with the SOAP api, or should I
use the socket API, in which case do I use the SOAP api handle?
 
Then without doing anything else, the second run works ok, but the third
one does not. This is a basic webservice both on the same machine, and
even when I set the timeout value to 3ms is still timesout more
often than not. Once I have this webservice ticking over reliably, I
will expand what is does, but this is just a proof of concept as to what
sort of throughput I can expect.
 
Has anyone found some better documentation or examples than the minimal
amount in the BASIC extensions, about how this all works.
 
Any input into or guidance as to what I may be doing wrong would be
greatly appreciated.
 
Cheers,
 
Phil
 
$Include UNIVERSE.INCLUDE XML.H
 
  LF = Char(10)
 
  Open '&XML&' To XML.FileVar Else
 Return
  End
 
  Database.Table.XML.Name = 'Consumer'
  Database.Table.XML.SOAPFileName =
Database.Table.XML.Name:'_Soap.xml'
 
  Default.HTTP.Version = '1.1'
  Default.SOAP.Version = '1.2'
  Default.XML.Version = '1.0'
  Default.XML.Encoding = 'UTF-8'
  Default.XML.Header = ''
  Default.SOAPRequest.Timeout = 1000  
  Default.SOAPRequest.Content = Default.XML.Header:LF
  Default.SOAPRequest.Content := 'http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance";'> 
  Default.SOAPRequest.Content := '
xmlns:xsd="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema";'
 
  Default.SOAPRequest.Content := '
xmlns:soap="http://www.w3.org/2003/05/soap-envelope";'
 
  Default.SOAPRequest.Content := '>':LF
  Default.SOAPRequest.Content := '  ':LF
  Default.SOAPRequest.Content := '':LF
  Default.SOAPRequest.Content := '
':Timedate():'':LF
  Default.SOAPRequest.Content := '':LF
  Default.SOAPRequest.Content := '  ':LF
  Default.SOAPRequest.Content := ''
  
  WebService.AddressLocation =
'http://localhost/Exodus/Service.asmx'
  WebService.TargetNameSpace = 'http://localhost/Exodus'
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RE: [U2] [UV] Trouble starting logs on Win Server 2003

[Robert Paterson]

Just a thought - have you tried this on a non-service packed
environment?

I seem to recall something where, when you have service packed, you may
have to reinstall the U2 DB...

Can't find any references - but under the circumstances - you may find
it useful to consider? 

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Sent: 30 January 2006 20:16
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: [U2] [UV] Trouble starting logs on Win Server 2003

When I try to start a counter log in Windows Server 2003 Performance
Monitor, I get the error "log or alert has not started. Refresh the log
or alert list to view current status, or see the application event log
for any errors."

I am in the Administrators Group. I can watch the stats, I just cannot
get a log to capture them.

Anyone been down this path? I've been reading tech docs over on
Microsoft 'til my eyes are crossed .

Thanks for any answers, leads, or suggestions.


-- 

Regards,

Clif

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