RE: [U2] Why Buy (or develop in) UniVerse?
Relational theory requires you to abstract the database to fit a (badly flawed) prescriptive theory of what data *should* be like. MV simply models the database to look like the real world. Relational scatters the data about individual real-world items across multiple tables. MV (properly designed) puts it all in one place. That's why MV doesn't need optimisers etc - it doesn't need to guess what data is likely to be accessed as a blob - if data is tightly joined in the real world, it is likely to be tightly joined in an MV database (while it's guaranteed to be scattered everywhere in a relational database). Relational REQUIRES that data comes in two dimensions. MV reflects the real world in accepting data that comes in more than two dimensions. A generic data is n-dimensional theory will ALWAYS be preferable to a data is 2-dimensional theory. I liken that requirement of relational to Euclid's assertion in geometry that parallel lines never meet. Without realising it, he placed an artificial restraint on geometry and held it back centuries. CD have done the same for database theory. Would you use Newtonian mechanics to model events in the LHC? The physicists would laugh you out of Switzerland. As David said, Oracle market to CEOs - relational wins on marketing clout. Unfortunately, the mathematical foundation behind it is iredeemably flawed :-( It breaks the Einsteinian corollory to Occam - make it as simple as possible - but no simpler - relational theory has been simplified too far, with the result that it ends up far more complex than it need be. Cheers, Wol -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Jordan Sent: 13 August 2008 01:18 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: RE: [U2] Why Buy (or develop in) UniVerse? Hi Louie Intersystems have done some benchmarks of multidimensional databases versus RDBMS and some of that logic follows through to UniVerse. It is difficult to compare UniVerse to RDBMS in benchmarks as they are designed for RDBMS strengths. If a benchmark was designed for UniVerse strengths instead, RDBMS would not look so rosy. RDBMS databases are designed to optimise cache and indexing because of the performance issues in the database. UniVerse does not inherit those performance issues, hence they do not need to optimise Cache and indexs to the same extent and the optimisations needs to be different. There are hosts of differences. RDBMS have fixed length and fixed structure records, where as UniVerse has variable length records and fields can be added at any time. More UniVerse records can fit on a disk sector than RDBMS rows increasing U2 performance. RDBMS don't efficiently lock rows, they do group locks. Universe can lock individual records without performance hits. RDBMS work with optimistic locking as pessimistic locking is a nightmare with group locking. UniVerse can handle both optimistic and pessimistic locking. RDBMS stores all tables within one file, UniVerse has a file for every table. Totally different approaches for BU, Restore and handling file corruptions. RDBMS have to join multiple tables which creates overhead and referential integrity issues. UniVerse stores all specific data in a multidimensional record. UniVerse is close to Zero-Administration, where RDBMS still require expensive Database administrators. RDBMS have large workloads in setting up security access to tables for different users. UniVerse can use table security or OS file security. RDBMS have limited functionality in business rules stored in the database. UniVerse can handle complex business rules with ease. In complex applications UniVerse is well ahead. However the argument should not be technical. The CEO and board does not make decisions on Cache and indexes, they make it on a business case. ROI, Cost of running, Staff numbers to administer and develop, competitive advantage. The old joke was what hardware does Oracle run best on, a projector. Oracle markets to CEOs and does little technology discussion, that is why they are successful. Its horses for courses, but if a project is going to be complex, the success rate of the project completing on time and on cost in UniVerse is near 100%, on an RDBMS the numbers are scary. Regards David Jordan Managing Consultant --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2] Why Buy (or develop in) UniVerse?
David As always, that is a great post. Hit the nail on the head. I think part of the problem is we continue to call UniVerse a database. It isn't - it's an application platform that happens to have a complex storage model behind it. When you compare *application* performance against the three tier models required for effective RDBMS backed apps, the numbers will stack up very differently. Brian --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2] Why Buy (or develop in) UniVerse?
To add to my post: If you want one single good reason, take a look at the Wrox Press Expert One to One series books by Roger Jennings on database programming. He's a SQL Server and .Net guru. Read his chapters on performance tuning and concurrency management and weep for those guys. And if that doesn't convince, I'd really recommend a good book on using the Oracle query optimiser to get performance out of that... Then you'll know why so few RDMBS projects deliver robusness on time and on budget. Brian --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
[U2] RE: TCL literal select
Rather than writing a simple program ... SELECT PARTS WITH EVAL DCOUNT(F1, '') GT 0 Cheers, Wol -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Israel, John R. Sent: 12 August 2008 21:59 To: 'u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org' Subject: [U2] RE: TCL literal select I tried using the lower case SELECT/LIST to use native UniData syntax, and that did not work. Try writing a simple program to convert the double quotes to something else (like a tilda) then search the I-desc for that. ED BP TILDA SUBROUTINE TILDA(RTN.VAL, ORIG.VAL) RTN.VAL = CONVERT(ORIG.VAL, '', '~') RETURN ED DICT PARTS F1.TILDA I SUBR(TILDA, F1) ... SELECT PARTS WITH F1.TILDA = [~] John Israel Sr. Programmer/Analyst Dayton Superior Corporation 721 Richard St. Dayton, OH 45342 937-866-0711 x44380 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bruce Ordway Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 4:00 PM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: [U2] TCL literal select Hi, I work with a Unidata/Dataflo system on HPUX. I am having trouble selecting records in my PARTS file. I want to select all parts that have a in the description field (F1). People have been using instead of INCH. This causes problems for me during processing some reports and exports. I have tried quite a few select statements with no success. LIST PARTS WITH F1 = [//] LIST PARTS WITH F1 = // LIST PARTS WITH F1 = /''/ LIST PARTS WITH F1 = [''] LIST PARTS WITH F1 = '' LIST PARTS WITH F1 = /''/ LIST PARTS WITH F1 = \[]\ LIST PARTS WITH F1 = [\\] LIST PARTS WITH F1 = '' Wildcards on my system are brackets, [ leading and ] following Any ideas on what would work? Somebody showed me once, so I know it can be done. I lost my notes though. Thanks, Bruce Ordway Viking Engineering Development Inc. 5750 Main St. N.E. Fridley, MN 55432 Visit us at www.Vikingeng.com This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. E-mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. The sender therefore does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message, which arise as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required please request a hard-copy version. --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
[U2] RE: TCL literal select
Ooops ... COUNT, not DCOUNT Cheers, Wol -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Anthony Youngman Sent: 13 August 2008 12:01 To: 'u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org' Subject: [U2] RE: TCL literal select Rather than writing a simple program ... SELECT PARTS WITH EVAL DCOUNT(F1, '') GT 0 Cheers, Wol -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Israel, John R. Sent: 12 August 2008 21:59 To: 'u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org' Subject: [U2] RE: TCL literal select I tried using the lower case SELECT/LIST to use native UniData syntax, and that did not work. Try writing a simple program to convert the double quotes to something else (like a tilda) then search the I-desc for that. ED BP TILDA SUBROUTINE TILDA(RTN.VAL, ORIG.VAL) RTN.VAL = CONVERT(ORIG.VAL, '', '~') RETURN ED DICT PARTS F1.TILDA I SUBR(TILDA, F1) ... SELECT PARTS WITH F1.TILDA = [~] John Israel Sr. Programmer/Analyst Dayton Superior Corporation 721 Richard St. Dayton, OH 45342 937-866-0711 x44380 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bruce Ordway Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 4:00 PM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: [U2] TCL literal select Hi, I work with a Unidata/Dataflo system on HPUX. I am having trouble selecting records in my PARTS file. I want to select all parts that have a in the description field (F1). People have been using instead of INCH. This causes problems for me during processing some reports and exports. I have tried quite a few select statements with no success. LIST PARTS WITH F1 = [//] LIST PARTS WITH F1 = // LIST PARTS WITH F1 = /''/ LIST PARTS WITH F1 = [''] LIST PARTS WITH F1 = '' LIST PARTS WITH F1 = /''/ LIST PARTS WITH F1 = \[]\ LIST PARTS WITH F1 = [\\] LIST PARTS WITH F1 = '' Wildcards on my system are brackets, [ leading and ] following Any ideas on what would work? Somebody showed me once, so I know it can be done. I lost my notes though. Thanks, Bruce Ordway Viking Engineering Development Inc. 5750 Main St. N.E. Fridley, MN 55432 Visit us at www.Vikingeng.com This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. E-mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. The sender therefore does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message, which arise as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required please request a hard-copy version. --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2] Why Develop in UniVerse?
A lot of CEO's have a finance background. A lot of finance people revere Oracle financials. They worship the functionality of the screens and reports. That it takes an extra guy or two to admin the database... just does not matter. Invoking one of (soft) rock music's hard lessons... Give the people what they want. --Bill --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
[U2] [UV] Editing Subsequent Value Marks
I have what looks like ^253^253 that needs to be just ^253. Without luck I have tried... 1: C/^253^253/^253 and 1: C\^253^253\^253 Suggestions would be appreciated. --Bill --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2] RE: TCL literal select
Hi, I ended up using this from Martin C. (of Epicor fame). I don't know why none of the TCL examples would work for me. Something to do with Unidata 5.2 and my particular flavor I guess. Thanks to you all a Virtual Field type dictionary using the INDEX function... i.e. 001: V 002: INDEX(F1,'',1) 003: 004: 005: 6L 006: S -Original Message- From: Anthony Youngman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 7:08 AM To: 'u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org' Subject: [U2] RE: TCL literal select Ooops ... COUNT, not DCOUNT Cheers, Wol -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Anthony Youngman Sent: 13 August 2008 12:01 To: 'u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org' Subject: [U2] RE: TCL literal select Rather than writing a simple program ... SELECT PARTS WITH EVAL DCOUNT(F1, '') GT 0 Cheers, Wol -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Israel, John R. Sent: 12 August 2008 21:59 To: 'u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org' Subject: [U2] RE: TCL literal select I tried using the lower case SELECT/LIST to use native UniData syntax, and that did not work. Try writing a simple program to convert the double quotes to something else (like a tilda) then search the I-desc for that. ED BP TILDA SUBROUTINE TILDA(RTN.VAL, ORIG.VAL) RTN.VAL = CONVERT(ORIG.VAL, '', '~') RETURN ED DICT PARTS F1.TILDA I SUBR(TILDA, F1) ... SELECT PARTS WITH F1.TILDA = [~] John Israel Sr. Programmer/Analyst Dayton Superior Corporation 721 Richard St. Dayton, OH 45342 937-866-0711 x44380 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bruce Ordway Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 4:00 PM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: [U2] TCL literal select Hi, I work with a Unidata/Dataflo system on HPUX. I am having trouble selecting records in my PARTS file. I want to select all parts that have a in the description field (F1). People have been using instead of INCH. This causes problems for me during processing some reports and exports. I have tried quite a few select statements with no success. LIST PARTS WITH F1 = [//] LIST PARTS WITH F1 = // LIST PARTS WITH F1 = /''/ LIST PARTS WITH F1 = [''] LIST PARTS WITH F1 = '' LIST PARTS WITH F1 = /''/ LIST PARTS WITH F1 = \[]\ LIST PARTS WITH F1 = [\\] LIST PARTS WITH F1 = '' Wildcards on my system are brackets, [ leading and ] following Any ideas on what would work? Somebody showed me once, so I know it can be done. I lost my notes though. Thanks, Bruce Ordway Viking Engineering Development Inc. 5750 Main St. N.E. Fridley, MN 55432 Visit us at www.Vikingeng.com This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. E-mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. The sender therefore does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message, which arise as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required please request a hard-copy version. --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ Viking Engineering Development Inc. 5750 Main St. N.E. Fridley, MN 55432 Visit us at www.Vikingeng.com This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. E-mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. The sender therefore does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message, which arise as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required please request a hard-copy version. --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2] [UV] Editing Subsequent Value Marks
If it's Unidata, then do EV (Edit Values) and that will put you in a vertical editor of those values, then you can go to the one you want to remove and do a DE (Delete line) then FI (File Item) and it will return you to the level you where at. You may want to play with this on a test item till you get the hang of it. Ed Burwell CASIO AMERICA, INC. 570 Mt. Pleasant Avenue Dover, NJ 07801 973-361-5400 x1512 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] www.casio.com http://www.casio.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Brutzman, Bill Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 11:20 AM To: 'u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org' Subject: [U2] [UV] Editing Subsequent Value Marks I have what looks like ^253^253 that needs to be just ^253. Without luck I have tried... 1: C/^253^253/^253 and 1: C\^253^253\^253 Suggestions would be appreciated. --Bill --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ __ This e-mail has been scanned by MCI Managed Email Content Service, using Skeptic(tm) technology powered by MessageLabs. For more information on MCI's Managed Email Content Service, visit http://www.mci.com. __ __ This e-mail has been scanned by MCI Managed Email Content Service, using Skeptic(tm) technology powered by MessageLabs. For more information on MCI's Managed Email Content Service, visit http://www.mci.com. __ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2] [UV] Editing Subsequent Value Marks
Try a CW first? Although your first form works in AE on unidata 7.1... Edward -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brutzman, Bill Sent: 13 August 2008 16:20 To: 'u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org' Subject: [U2] [UV] Editing Subsequent Value Marks I have what looks like ^253^253 that needs to be just ^253. Without luck I have tried... 1: C/^253^253/^253 and 1: C\^253^253\^253 Suggestions would be appreciated. --Bill --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- Please remember to recycle wherever possible. Reduce, reuse, recycle, think do you need to print this e-mail? --- This e-mail and any attachment(s), is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. If you are not the addressee, dissemination, copying or use of this e-mail or any of its content is prohibited and may be unlawful. If you are not the intended recipient please inform the sender immediately and destroy the e-mail, any attachment(s) and any copies. All liability for viruses is excluded to the fullest extent permitted by law. It is your responsibility to scan or otherwise check this email and any attachment(s). Unless otherwise stated (i) views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender (ii) no contract may be construed by this e-mail. Emails may be monitored and you are taken to consent to this monitoring. Civica Services Limited, Company No. 02374268; Civica UK Limited, Company No. 01628868 Both companies are registered in England and Wales and each has its registered office at 2 Burston Road, Putney, London, SW15 6AR. --- --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2] [UV] Editing Subsequent Value Marks
If you have a version of UV with AE and it is working you can use EV to edit the mv position and delete the extra. Brenda -Original Message- From: Brutzman, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 10:20 AM To: 'u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org' Subject: [U2] [UV] Editing Subsequent Value Marks I have what looks like ^253^253 that needs to be just ^253. Without luck I have tried... 1: C/^253^253/^253 and 1: C\^253^253\^253 Suggestions would be appreciated. --Bill --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2] TCL literal select
I would suggest creating INDEX to access, build and maintain. 1. create a virtual dictionary called CHECKINCH with the following on line 2. IF INDEX(F1,'',1) THEN 1 ELSE 0 2. create a virtual dictionary called INCH with this on line 2. IF CHECKINCH THEN F1 ELSE 3. CREATE.INDEX PARTS INCH NO.NULLS To view the data LIST.INDEX PARTS INCH DETAIL Now you have just the INCH records identified to do with as you like, and any adds, deletes or modifications get automatically done with no coding. You can now also use SETINDEX and SELECTINDEX to go directly where a key should be in the file or grab the entire file that has INCH. Nick Nicholas M Gettino | Director of Development | EnRoute Emergency Systems, an Infor company | office: 813-207-6998 | fax: 678-393-5389 [EMAIL PROTECTED] | www.enroute911.com Register Now! | EnRoute Emergency Systems Customer Conference | September 22-25, 2008 | Mainsail Suites Hotel Conference Center | Tampa, Florida -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Allen Egerton Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 9:56 PM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] TCL literal select Bruce Ordway wrote: Hi, I work with a Unidata/Dataflo system on HPUX. I am having trouble selecting records in my PARTS file. I want to select all parts that have a in the description field (F1). People have been using instead of INCH. This causes problems for me during processing some reports and exports. To include double-quote within field to be searched, use single quote as delimiter. SELECT PARTS WITH F1 = '[' -or- SELECT PARTS WITH F1 LIKE '..' -- Allen Egerton aegerton at pobox dot com --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2] [UV] Editing Subsequent Value Marks
If you're using AE then DV will delete the last MV (whether it's empty or not). Check the help for more extensive syntax (you can delete specified values, sub-values etc). There are a whole host of value editing functions. Hth Colin Alfke Calgary, Canada -Original Message- From: Brutzman, Bill I have what looks like ^253^253 that needs to be just ^253. Without luck I have tried... 1: C/^253^253/^253 and 1: C\^253^253\^253 Suggestions would be appreciated. --Bill --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2] [UV] Editing Subsequent Value Marks
A dot? C.^253^253.^253 Caryl -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brutzman, Bill Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 8:20 AM To: 'u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org' Subject: [U2] [UV] Editing Subsequent Value Marks I have what looks like ^253^253 that needs to be just ^253. Without luck I have tried... 1: C/^253^253/^253 and 1: C\^253^253\^253 Suggestions would be appreciated. --Bill --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2] [UV] Editing Subsequent Value Marks
Either should work. When you are editing the record, type ^ (shift+6) alone then press (Enter) to reveal the hidden or mysterious codes. It may be that what looks like ^253^253 is not truly that. Laure Hansen, City of Redwood City - Information Technology 1017 Middlefield Road - Redwood City, CA 94063 Office 650-780-7087 - Cell 650-207-3235 - Fax 650-556-9204 [EMAIL PROTECTED] o Please think green before printing this e-mail Subscribe to receive Redwood City E-News, news releases, or other documents via email: Click here to register/subscribe -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brutzman, Bill Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 8:20 AM To: 'u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org' Subject: [U2] [UV] Editing Subsequent Value Marks I have what looks like ^253^253 that needs to be just ^253. Without luck I have tried... 1: C/^253^253/^253 and 1: C\^253^253\^253 Suggestions would be appreciated. --Bill --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2] TCL literal select
Allen: I use UD in PICK mode and the query processor has the same problem as the OP noted. UD doesn't like single quotes in PICK mode. In fact, numerous things don't work in AQL when in PICK mode. I wasn't able to get any of the suggestions to work in UD. Bill -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:owner-u2- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Allen Egerton Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 6:56 PM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] TCL literal select Bruce Ordway wrote: Hi, I work with a Unidata/Dataflo system on HPUX. I am having trouble selecting records in my PARTS file. I want to select all parts that have a in the description field (F1). People have been using instead of INCH. This causes problems for me during processing some reports and exports. To include double-quote within field to be searched, use single quote as delimiter. SELECT PARTS WITH F1 = '[' -or- SELECT PARTS WITH F1 LIKE '..' -- Allen Egerton aegerton at pobox dot com --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2] RE: TCL literal select
Bruce: I think it's UD specifically (even D3 works with a number of the suggestions). UD is very finicky with AQL and drives almost ALL PICK people crazy, and many who work both UD and something else concurrently. Bill -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:owner-u2- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bruce Ordway Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 8:26 AM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: RE: [U2] RE: TCL literal select Hi, I ended up using this from Martin C. (of Epicor fame). I don't know why none of the TCL examples would work for me. Something to do with Unidata 5.2 and my particular flavor I guess. Thanks to you all a Virtual Field type dictionary using the INDEX function... i.e. 001: V 002: INDEX(F1,'',1) 003: 004: 005: 6L 006: S -Original Message- From: Anthony Youngman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 7:08 AM To: 'u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org' Subject: [U2] RE: TCL literal select Ooops ... COUNT, not DCOUNT Cheers, Wol -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Anthony Youngman Sent: 13 August 2008 12:01 To: 'u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org' Subject: [U2] RE: TCL literal select Rather than writing a simple program ... SELECT PARTS WITH EVAL DCOUNT(F1, '') GT 0 Cheers, Wol -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Israel, John R. Sent: 12 August 2008 21:59 To: 'u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org' Subject: [U2] RE: TCL literal select I tried using the lower case SELECT/LIST to use native UniData syntax, and that did not work. Try writing a simple program to convert the double quotes to something else (like a tilda) then search the I-desc for that. ED BP TILDA SUBROUTINE TILDA(RTN.VAL, ORIG.VAL) RTN.VAL = CONVERT(ORIG.VAL, '', '~') RETURN ED DICT PARTS F1.TILDA I SUBR(TILDA, F1) ... SELECT PARTS WITH F1.TILDA = [~] John Israel Sr. Programmer/Analyst Dayton Superior Corporation 721 Richard St. Dayton, OH 45342 937-866-0711 x44380 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bruce Ordway Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 4:00 PM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: [U2] TCL literal select Hi, I work with a Unidata/Dataflo system on HPUX. I am having trouble selecting records in my PARTS file. I want to select all parts that have a in the description field (F1). People have been using instead of INCH. This causes problems for me during processing some reports and exports. I have tried quite a few select statements with no success. LIST PARTS WITH F1 = [//] LIST PARTS WITH F1 = // LIST PARTS WITH F1 = /''/ LIST PARTS WITH F1 = [''] LIST PARTS WITH F1 = '' LIST PARTS WITH F1 = /''/ LIST PARTS WITH F1 = \[]\ LIST PARTS WITH F1 = [\\] LIST PARTS WITH F1 = '' Wildcards on my system are brackets, [ leading and ] following Any ideas on what would work? Somebody showed me once, so I know it can be done. I lost my notes though. Thanks, Bruce Ordway Viking Engineering Development Inc. 5750 Main St. N.E. Fridley, MN 55432 Visit us at www.Vikingeng.com This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. E-mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. The sender therefore does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message, which arise as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required please request a hard-copy version. --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ Viking Engineering Development Inc. 5750 Main St. N.E. Fridley, MN 55432 Visit us at www.Vikingeng.com This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. E-mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. The sender therefore does not accept liability for any errors or omissions
[U2] uniobjects
does anyone know if its possible to run the uvrpc deamon (uniobjects) from the command line? It appears that since we cannot find the problem we are going to rewrite our order entry program in .net from vb6, apparently from some initial testing that the .net version fo the program works whereas the vb6 version is still having problems. Also is anyone aware of any ways to see what a deamon (in particular uvrpc) is doing? We have talked to IBM and apparently the best suggestion we got from them was that the issue was being caused by the network card in the systems (which have been the same for years) so I am not even sure where that idea came from. is anyone aware of any differences that would cause code written in .net to work versus code written in vb6 (I assume they are using different dll's anything on the server side)? Also does the uvrpc have different daemons for .net and non .net? thanks everyone dougc --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2] [UV] Editing Subsequent Value Marks
Did you do a shift-6 (^) first? How about trying an R instead of a C? _ Got Game? Win Prizes in the Windows Live Hotmail Mobile Summer Games Trivia Contest http://www.gowindowslive.com/summergames?ocid=TXT_TAGHM --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2] [UV] Editing Paired Value Marks - Victory
Thanks to those who responded. Using AE I was able to do a... 1: C/Sales.Order.ID^253/Sales.Order.ID --Bill --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2] uniobjects
We had problems with the DLL's when they added the Chinese character set and went from device licensing being on or off to it being a number from 0-9. It was 7.1.6 Unidata on Windows, and 7.1.8 on AIX versions. I am copying my RD Manager on this reply she can get you more details if you believe this could be the issue. Kim can you please read this thread and respond? Thanks, Nick Nicholas M Gettino | Director of Development | EnRoute Emergency Systems, an Infor company | office: 813-207-6998 | fax: 678-393-5389 [EMAIL PROTECTED] | www.enroute911.com Register Now! | EnRoute Emergency Systems Customer Conference | September 22-25, 2008 | Mainsail Suites Hotel Conference Center | Tampa, Florida -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of doug chanco Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 1:08 PM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: [U2] uniobjects does anyone know if its possible to run the uvrpc deamon (uniobjects) from the command line? It appears that since we cannot find the problem we are going to rewrite our order entry program in .net from vb6, apparently from some initial testing that the .net version fo the program works whereas the vb6 version is still having problems. Also is anyone aware of any ways to see what a deamon (in particular uvrpc) is doing? We have talked to IBM and apparently the best suggestion we got from them was that the issue was being caused by the network card in the systems (which have been the same for years) so I am not even sure where that idea came from. is anyone aware of any differences that would cause code written in .net to work versus code written in vb6 (I assume they are using different dll's anything on the server side)? Also does the uvrpc have different daemons for .net and non .net? thanks everyone dougc --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2] TCL literal select
Allen, Changing the first letter of the verb forces processing of the query in 'U'nidata mode so you have to use 'LIKE' instead of '='. If that doesn't work, try a virtual dictionary item that calls a subroutine that outputs IN for every occurance of ''. Tom -Original Message- From: Bill Haskett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 12:48 PM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: RE: [U2] TCL literal select Allen: I use UD in PICK mode and the query processor has the same problem as the OP noted. UD doesn't like single quotes in PICK mode. In fact, numerous things don't work in AQL when in PICK mode. I wasn't able to get any of the suggestions to work in UD. Bill -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:owner-u2- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Allen Egerton Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 6:56 PM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] TCL literal select Bruce Ordway wrote: Hi, I work with a Unidata/Dataflo system on HPUX. I am having trouble selecting records in my PARTS file. I want to select all parts that have a in the description field (F1). People have been using instead of INCH. This causes problems for me during processing some reports and exports. To include double-quote within field to be searched, use single quote as delimiter. SELECT PARTS WITH F1 = '[' -or- SELECT PARTS WITH F1 LIKE '..' -- Allen Egerton aegerton at pobox dot com --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
Re: [U2] TCL literal select
Bill Haskett wrote: Allen: I use UD in PICK mode and the query processor has the same problem as the OP noted. UD doesn't like single quotes in PICK mode. In fact, numerous things don't work in AQL when in PICK mode. I wasn't able to get any of the suggestions to work in UD. Bill I just created a temporary account on a Universe machine, in PICK flavor. And ran right into the same problem. Which suggests to me that I test my answers before I present them. -- Allen Egerton aegerton at pobox dot com --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2] [UV] Editing Paired Value Marks
1. Yes... I definitely did a shift-6 first. 2. Although our LIVE data was fixed, I had made a copy to our SANDBOX. I tested the R technique and found that works for other strings, but the R does not work here (either) for the paired value marks. 3. It is easy for anyone to test on their own machines. I suppose that it is something of a small curiosity. --Bill -Original Message- [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dan Fitzgerald Subject: RE: [U2] [UV] Editing Subsequent Value Marks Did you do a shift-6 (^) first? How about trying an R instead of a C? --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
Re: RE: [U2] Why Develop in UniVerse?
Same thing with SAP. And SAPs magic financial systems. - Original Message - From: Brutzman, Bill Date: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 10:55 am Subject: RE: [U2] Why Develop in UniVerse? To: 'u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org' A lot of CEO's have a finance background. A lot of finance people revere Oracle financials. They worship the functionality of the screens and reports. That it takes an extra guy or two to admin the database... just does not matter. Invoking one of (soft) rock music's hard lessons... Give the people what they want. --Bill --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
[U2] U2.NET v IBM.NET v UNIOBJECTS.NET
Greetings, I'm studying the U2 University Agenda to see what mischief I can get into. Anyone know what is the difference between IBM.NET, U2.NET and UNIOBJECTS.NET? There are three distinct sessions at U2U on these. TIA, Susan --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
[U2] can anyone shed any light on parts of this core file?
well i finally got a core file but had no luck trying to read it with dbx (so I just vi'ed the file and below is what I was able to read) I am praying that one of you universe/aix/uniobjects guru's can see if anything below is useful in finding our problem. thanks! dougc -I/r-b/r-y/r. /r.,/r.=/r.P/r.e/r.^@/r.^U/r.$/r.@/r.V/r.}/r/^W/r/*/r/Muv_=/usr/ib m/uv/bin/uvLANG=CLOGIN=carrmaPATH=/usr/bin:/usr/lbin:/usr/bin:/etc:/usr/sbin:/us r/ucb:/usr/bin/X11:/sbin:/usr/java14/jre/bin:/usr/java14/bin:/usr/local/samba/sb in:/usr/ibm/uv/bin:/usr/opt/uv/bin:.LC__FASTMSG=trueCGI_DIRECTORY=/var/docsearch /cgi-binLOGNAME=carrmaLOCPATH=/usr/lib/nls/locUVPATH=/usr/ibm/uv/binDOCUMENT_SER VER_MACHINE_NAME=localhostUSER=carrmaAUTHSTATE=compatSHELL=/usr/bin/kshODMDIR=/e tc/objreposDOCUMENT_SERVER_PORT=49213HOME=/home/everybodyTERM=viewpointITECONFIG SRV=/etc/IMNSearchPWD=/usr2/zircon/INSTDOCUMENT_DIRECTORY=/usr/docsearch/htmlTZ= EST5EDT,M3.2.0,M11.1.0UVHOME=/usr/ibm/uvITECONFIGCL=/etc/IMNSearch/clientsITE_DO C_SEARCH_INSTANCE=searchNLSP^-o/r+@ ^Eth^A/r,D/r,L^-o^-o^-o^-o^-o^-o^-o^ -o^-o^-o^-o^-o^-o^-o^-o^-o^-o^-o^-o^-o^-o^-o ^AD^P^E^-o^P^Ax ^KR H/r/x@(#)61 1.13 src/bos/usr/ccs/lib/libc/__threads_init.c, libcthrd, bos43 N 3/25/99 13:50:27 ^Eth ^EP^P-UVTLSVC-TLTIMEOUT %cUVLICENSECHECK%dUVL ICENSECHECKUVLICENSECHECKselect is over. about to select. received %d, %s, %s, %u received %s, %s, %s, %s write failed, errno is %d. @(#)UniVerse Version 10.1.7%c%cA%cR%cD%cT%c%c%c%c%c%c%cioctl TCGETA failed, errn o %d Now get client identification about to write escape sequence. ioctl TCSETAW failed, errno %d. FD NOT SET on readfds, errno %d. select returned 0; timeout, errno %d. Debugging UNIX telnet server with timeout as 60. Copyright ) IBM Corporation 2001, 2005. All rights reserved.%Z%UniVerse Platfor m: International Business Machines (IBM) RS6000/AIX/r,0w%s-S%s%c%s VOC^A^A^BYesIdealON.EXIT10.1.7CVIEW ^H ^E8ON.ABORT^G ^E^X^H ^EPUV.LOGINphantom^E ^E^P^D ^E ^F ^E mkaccountALTER.IC updaccountMAXTRANSBUFUV_USERNO=LONGNAMES ON/b in/mkaccount/bin/updaccountBUILD.INDEX PHANTOMLONGNAMES ON NEWACCUPDATE.INDEX PH ANTOMRUN APP.PROGS UV.UPGRADESET.INDEX UV.TRANS INFORMBUILD.INDEX UV.TRANS FILER UN APP.PROGS PACKAGE.INSCREATE.INDEX UV.TRANS FILESPECIAL.EDITOR.SELECT.DATA@(#) UniVerse Version 10.1.7Copyright ) IBM Corporation 2001, 2005. All rights reser ved.%Z%UniVerse Platform: International Business Machines (IBM) RS6000/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ^K ^TCS5 -dWHORUNIAMTIMETERMRAIDQUITLOCKJOBSHUSHDATECORECHAPCASEBELLusrsUMASKT.REWT .FWDT.EODT.BCKSLEEPPTIMELOGTOLOGONLIMITCHDIRBREAKABORTTEMPBELLTERM%s=%iT.WEOFT. READSETPTRNOTIFYLOGOUTASSIGNT.WTLBLT.RDLBLSP.TAPERELEASEQSELECTPHANTOMNSELECTDIS PLAYCATALOGLOGNAMEWARNINGSUVPROMPTUNASSIGNT.UNLOADGET.LIST^E ^H4^A ^G^FSAVE.LIST LIST.DIFFGET.STACKFORM.LISTCLEARDATAUV_USERNOSET.TELNETSAVE.STACKMERGE.LISTLIST. UNIONLIST.LOCKSLIST.INTERDIVERT.OUTAUTOLOGOUT/bin/usrsRELEASE.XMLPREPARE.XMLLOGT O.ABORTGET.SQLNULLENVIRONMENTDELETE.LISTDATE.FORMATCLEARSELECTCLEARCOMMONCLEAR.L OCKSABORT.LOGINPAGE.MESSAGECLEARPROMPTS/tmp/utmp.%d5SET.REMOTE.IDSET.TERM.EUROGE T.TERM.EUROCENTURY.PIVOTSETPTR.DEFAULTSET.SYSTEM.EUROGET.SYSTEM.EUROSET.CONVERT. TERM.EUROGET.CONVERT.TERM.EURO \'~}|,^GDICTSAVEDLISTSSTACKWRITERELLEVELLOGI NDEVICEPDICTONONOFFOFFTapeProcVerbMenuQueryPerformExecuteParagraphTransactionR AID debuggerClient programExternal programCommand LanguageBASIC run machinewrarw a r+w+a+r+w+a+ ^LLfeofsemopfgetcfreadfputcftellfseekuvnetDBreadferrorfilenofflus hfclosefwriteDBfinfoDBwblokDBrbloksselectDBwriteDBprobeDBclrflDBcloseDBstatusDBs electDBdeleteDBscnat25DBreleaseDBReadLocknetgetstatsnetgetinfo30DBrecordlockedmi smatch: offset = %ld, outoff = %ld ^ATCP^A^Atcpuvrpc0x%8x 0x%8x ^A,ARG DATA TIMESTAMP 0x%8x MESSAGE Key 0x%8d 0x%8x 0x%8x In rpc_init() In uvrpc_call In uvrpc_call MESSAGE LENGTH 0x%4x 0x%4x NW RETURN CODE In send packet In read packet In build packet In write packet In read message before the recv In unpack packet 0x%2x 0x%2x 0x%2x message_length=%d message_length=%d message_length=%d before the select 0x%4x %x %d (%.*s) thissize set to %d thissize set to %d thissize set to %d thissize set to %d thissize set to %d thissize set to %d thissize set to %d thissize set to %d thissize set to %d char arg(0x%8x)=%s type of arg %d = %d VERSION NUMBER SEQNO current version set! encryption type set! length of arg %d = %d encryption state set! In get encryption type In set current version In set encryption type START OF ARG ARRAY DATA low level timeout error the read was interupted low level read errno=%d read returns 0 errno=%d In get encryption state In set encryption state Element %3d Length type addr=0x%8x 0x%8x %c%c%c%c Send Req: proc_name is %s the select was interupted after the recv nread = %d uvrpc_call failed bad arg1 after the select rcnt = %d In get current RPC version compression threshold set! going to read %d more chars remote
[U2] RE: TCL literal select and SQL Injection
From: Bruce Ordway I want to select all parts that have a in the description field (F1). People have been using instead of INCH. This causes problems for me during processing some reports and exports. I don't didn't get the original post to this, only replies - weird. What's being described here is the concept called SQL Injection where users intentionally or unintentionally put something in data that causes queries to misbehave. For example: PRINT Enter your customer ID to see your data INPUT CUSTID EXECUTE SELECT ORDERS WITH CUST ':CUSTID:' LOOP ... DISPLAY RESULTS ... What if the user enters: ME' OR NOT 'ME Please excuse my Pick-style syntax, but obviously embedding the user response into the query without filtering will allow anyone to see pretty much anything. Knowledge of the specific query isn't always required, but if the user knows they're working with a MV DBMS it's not tough to alter the query as easily as any SQL query. This isn't the sort of thing MV people grew up on with telnet clients, but it's critical when deploying apps to a public website - even with secured login. The rest of the development world is VERY aware of this concept and we aren't any more immune to it - we've just survived with the good fortune of using obscure software and being a more difficult target than your average LAMP-based website. This is a topic that I decided to NOT write about as the second entry to my blog on website hacking. But considering this is still something I see on a daily basis I decided maybe it is something that needs to be discussed somewhere. remove.thisNebula-RnD.com/blog/tech/2007/01/website-hacks1.html/2 HTH Tony Gravagno Nebula Research and Development TG@ remove.pleaseNebula-RnD.com --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2] uniobjects
Hi Doug One of the problems is that VB6 is not really supported. As the security packs are added to XP there is more chance that a security pack causes issues for VB6. Of course .Net is supported. If you upgrade to vista it is likely not to work at all. Check users are super users on the client. If you can make changes to the VB6, try and move the install out of program files and keep registered dlls from the windows directory. Regards David Jordan --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
Re: [U2] [UV] Editing Subsequent Value Marks
C/^^253^^253/^^253/ - Original Message - From: Brutzman, Bill [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org' u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: [U2] [UV] Editing Subsequent Value Marks Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 11:19:36 -0400 I have what looks like ^253^253 that needs to be just ^253. Without luck I have tried... 1: C/^253^253/^253 and 1: C\^253^253\^253 Suggestions would be appreciated. --Bill --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2] [UV] Editing Paired Value Marks
Ray: Thanks for writing but the double-carat technique did not work on what I have here. --Bill -Original Message- [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Ray Wurlod C/^^253^^253/^^253/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: RE: [U2] Why Develop in UniVerse?
A U2 reseller has just replaced a SAP site in Australia. A good CFO should be evaluating the business case. Also many businesses are getting hamstrung by the lack of flexibility in some of these systems and U2 applications are coming out on top in that area. Regards David Jordan --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
Re: [U2] [UV] Editing Paired Value Marks
Bill, The assumption is that you are using the standard UniVerse ED editor. What editor are you using? Regards, Clif -- W. Clifton Oliver, CCP CLIFTON OLIVER ASSOCIATES Tel: +1 619 460 5678Web: www.oliver.com On Aug 13, 2008, at 5:13 PM, Brutzman, Bill wrote: Ray: Thanks for writing but the double-carat technique did not work on what I have here. --Bill -Original Message- [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Ray Wurlod C/^^253^^253/^^253/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
