Re: [U2] mv.NET and U2.NET
Thanks, Charlie. I'm surprised so few in this forum either use these products or are willing to talk about them. :-( Bill Charlie Noah said the following on 8/2/2010 4:09 PM: Bill, We're just getting into MV.NET with Jbase, using one pad PC running a shop bay scheduling system. We are finding it very expensive, difficult to work with and a resource HOG. One session took as much bandwidth as the entire store it's being used at normally takes - one of our bigger stores, so that's considerable. I'm not really involved with it, thank God, but I'm seeing the fallout. I don't know anything about U2.NET. Regards, Charlie Noah Inland Truck Parts Company On 08-02-2010 4:32 PM, Bill Haskett wrote: Does anyone use mv.NET? Do you have any problems; stability, connectivity, licensing, etc? Is U2.NET a good substitute? I understand they re-wrote the licensing. What is the U2.NET cost? Does anyone use U2.NET? Any thoughts would be appreciated. Thanks, Bill Haskett ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] mv.NET and U2.NET
David: If you're astonished, you may want to pay more attention to your customers. Bill David Cooper (Support#2) said the following on 8/3/2010 1:34 AM: Charlie, I am, to put it mildly, absolutely astonished to read your comments about mv.NET. Have you posted this feedback to the Bluefinity support team? On what basis are you assessing the cost of mv.NET as being very expensive? Compared to what else? What mv.NET process(es) are you classifying as a resource HOG? Again, to my knowledge, BlueFinity support has received absolutely nothing relating to this issue from your organization. What kind of data movement pattern is being performed at the store you mention? Did anyone at Inland Truck ask BlueFinity for assistance in diagnosing this issue? It seems to me as though a little more communication with BlueFinity support might me to the benefit of everyone here. As for U2.NET, I refer you to Tony Gravagno's post on this thread. David Cooper Lead developer BlueFinity International __ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email __ ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] mv.NET and U2.NET
Bill, BlueFinity pays very close attention to its customers. We pride ourselves on our responsiveness to customer issues and have many, many testimonials from our customer base that testify to this fact. If customers do not communicate issues to us how are we supposed to assist? David -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Bill Haskett Sent: 03 August 2010 16:56 To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] mv.NET and U2.NET David: If you're astonished, you may want to pay more attention to your customers. Bill David Cooper (Support#2) said the following on 8/3/2010 1:34 AM: Charlie, I am, to put it mildly, absolutely astonished to read your comments about mv.NET. Have you posted this feedback to the Bluefinity support team? On what basis are you assessing the cost of mv.NET as being very expensive? Compared to what else? What mv.NET process(es) are you classifying as a resource HOG? Again, to my knowledge, BlueFinity support has received absolutely nothing relating to this issue from your organization. What kind of data movement pattern is being performed at the store you mention? Did anyone at Inland Truck ask BlueFinity for assistance in diagnosing this issue? It seems to me as though a little more communication with BlueFinity support might me to the benefit of everyone here. As for U2.NET, I refer you to Tony Gravagno's post on this thread. David Cooper Lead developer BlueFinity International __ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email __ ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users __ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email __ ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Redback
Just in case someone else comes across this in the future, I wanted to let you know that I figured out what the problem was. It had to do with some of the registry settings for IIS (see: http://mcsknowledge.com/Articles.aspx?P_ID=11A_ID=111). I originally discounted it since mine was reporting 'rgw.ini' and not '' and my version of windows is 32bit not 64bit but when I made these changes my gateway now reports 'c:\inetput\wwwroot\rgw.ini' like it should. When I try and hit an account I get an actual error now so at least I can make some progress. Thanks for your help, Jake -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Holt, Jake Sent: Monday, August 02, 2010 5:20 PM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] Redback I'm not sure where that port is coming from. Just to be sure I went and deleted all of the rgw.ini files (I had a few from reinstalls) and left only the newest one. SHOWRGW.exe displays the accounts I have setup in this RGW.INI so I would expect I have the right file. -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of andy baum Sent: Monday, August 02, 2010 4:36 PM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] Redback Jake, This line :- Can't connect to account 'DATAFLO' (DATAFLO:8413) rc=-1 suggests you are trying to connect on port 8413. Have you checked you don't have multiple rgw.ini files. In the early days of Redback the location of this file seemed to move with every release and I've been caught out a number of times with a system having two or more copies of rgw.ini containing conflicting information. HTH, Andy - Original Message From: Holt, Jake jh...@samsill.com To: U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Mon, 2 August, 2010 17:21:47 Subject: [U2] Redback We're currently running Universe 10.0.21 and I have RedBack 4.1.3.2 (its old, long story...). I can get everything to install properly it would seem but when I go to test it I get the following error: http://jonah/scripts/rgw.dll/DATAFLO *** Sorry, an error has occurred in rgw.dll running on host 'JONAH' (192.168.221.15) at 'Mon Aug 02 10:57:57 2010' at line 1161 of 'rgwi.c'. Can't connect to account 'DATAFLO' (DATAFLO:8413) rc=-1. [rgw.ini file is 'rgw.ini'] (RedBack ErrorCode = 0xf0060010) (System ErrorCode=11004 - The requested name is valid, but no data of the requested type was found. ) *** If I test just the gateway itself I get: http://jonah/scripts/rgw.dll/ You have successfully performed a test connection to the RedBack Requester (rgw) running on host 'JONAH' (192.168.221.15). Your RedBack accounts will be looked up in file 'rgw.ini'. * So it looks to be reading the rgw.ini file properly. This looks like a DNS error, but if I change rgw/rgwresp to use the IP it gives me the exact same error. The virtual directory for the redback scripts folder is under the default website in IIS. I've also added the web extension for the responder. I've tried about everything I can think to try including reinstalling both the server and gateway 3 or 4 times. The licensing isn't displaying any issues, I've run ENABLE.RBO and REDBACK.UPG. Anyone have any ideas? Thanks, Jake We're running on Windows Server 2003 32bit. Files: *** RGWRESP.INI: [Default] delim=254 startbackend=1 nresponders=2 backend=E:\UV\uv\bin\uv.exe perfstats=1 [Default.Environment] TERM=dumb RBHOME=e:\Redback\UVServer\RedBack COMSPEC=C:\WINDOWS\system32\cmd.exe SystemRoot=C:\WINDOWS Path=C:\WINDOWS\system32\;C:\WINDOWS\;e:\Redback\UVServer\RedBack\rgw\bi n UVHOME=E:\UV\uv UVBIN=E:\UV\uv\bin RedBack=1 [LogLevel] panic=1 err=1 wrn=1 inf=1 init=1 trace=1 verb=1 big=1 [Accounts] DATAFLO [DATAFLO] port= workdir=E:\dbms\LIVE\DATAFLO RGW.INI: DATAFLO 192.168.221.15: [LogLevel] panic=1 err=1 wrn=1 inf=1 init=1 trace=1 verb=1 big=1 ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] mv.NET and U2.NET
Ahhh. The old customer's fault perspective. I like that...I only wish I could use it myself. :-) Bill David Cooper (Support#2) said the following on 8/3/2010 10:09 AM: Bill, BlueFinity pays very close attention to its customers. We pride ourselves on our responsiveness to customer issues and have many, many testimonials from our customer base that testify to this fact. If customers do not communicate issues to us how are we supposed to assist? David -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Bill Haskett Sent: 03 August 2010 16:56 To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] mv.NET and U2.NET David: If you're astonished, you may want to pay more attention to your customers. Bill David Cooper (Support#2) said the following on 8/3/2010 1:34 AM: Charlie, I am, to put it mildly, absolutely astonished to read your comments about mv.NET. Have you posted this feedback to the Bluefinity support team? On what basis are you assessing the cost of mv.NET as being very expensive? Compared to what else? What mv.NET process(es) are you classifying as a resource HOG? Again, to my knowledge, BlueFinity support has received absolutely nothing relating to this issue from your organization. What kind of data movement pattern is being performed at the store you mention? Did anyone at Inland Truck ask BlueFinity for assistance in diagnosing this issue? It seems to me as though a little more communication with BlueFinity support might me to the benefit of everyone here. As for U2.NET, I refer you to Tony Gravagno's post on this thread. David Cooper Lead developer BlueFinity International __ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email __ ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users __ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email __ ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] mv.NET and U2.NET
Tis the customers fault if they do not inform the supplier of any problems - until suppliers become psychic that is ! -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Bill Haskett Sent: 03 August 2010 22:47 To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] mv.NET and U2.NET Ahhh. The old customer's fault perspective. I like that...I only wish I could use it myself. :-) Bill David Cooper (Support#2) said the following on 8/3/2010 10:09 AM: Bill, BlueFinity pays very close attention to its customers. We pride ourselves on our responsiveness to customer issues and have many, many testimonials from our customer base that testify to this fact. If customers do not communicate issues to us how are we supposed to assist? David -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Bill Haskett Sent: 03 August 2010 16:56 To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] mv.NET and U2.NET David: If you're astonished, you may want to pay more attention to your customers. Bill David Cooper (Support#2) said the following on 8/3/2010 1:34 AM: Charlie, I am, to put it mildly, absolutely astonished to read your comments about mv.NET. Have you posted this feedback to the Bluefinity support team? On what basis are you assessing the cost of mv.NET as being very expensive? Compared to what else? What mv.NET process(es) are you classifying as a resource HOG? Again, to my knowledge, BlueFinity support has received absolutely nothing relating to this issue from your organization. What kind of data movement pattern is being performed at the store you mention? Did anyone at Inland Truck ask BlueFinity for assistance in diagnosing this issue? It seems to me as though a little more communication with BlueFinity support might me to the benefit of everyone here. As for U2.NET, I refer you to Tony Gravagno's post on this thread. David Cooper Lead developer BlueFinity International __ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email __ ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users __ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email __ ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] mv.NET and U2.NET
I do think Bill's issues may be legit, but he is not responding like someone who contacted the vendor and attempted to resolve the issue. He speaks like someone that saw some issues and considered them egregious but did not follow up to see if the problems were a black swan or white one just assumed the whole technology was problematic without investigation / speaking to the experts. If Bill wants to prove my assumption wrong by saying 'I contacted this person by email and this one by phone # and after a hour conversation or 6 emails no resolution occurred' I would feel like he really tried to see whether his issues are typical or edge case. I do think in an ideal world we never should have to contact vendors it should all just work, but the windows software 'stack' lends itself to lots of side effects that specific vendors will have seen with their software. I had a Postcript printer card that corrupted my hard disk (very bizarre side effect) and windows search scanning a constantly churning XML file on iTunes brought my 64-bit 16 gig of RAM quad core desktop to it's knees so yeah windows software stack things can get really ugly in certain combinations. We have a pretty complex millions of rows transfer/Import/Data Warehouse we are/were considering Bluefinity for and my co-wroker Angela and me and our U2 genius all worked with them in a pre-sales situation and they helped us explained many options and got a HUGE IMPORT working that showed they could handle very high volume and presented us with a few ways and scenarios their customers work with large data to give us some other options for our complex data warehouse loading scenarios. They do seem to know their product, have some successful customers and are excited to help make things work if given the data that things are not working whereas I have met with many vendors that just don't care. But that being said maybe Bill did contact people at Bluefinity and have bad experiences and just is not telling us and has a legit gripe because their tech support dropped the ball, but I don't think he has told us enough to come to the conclusion he tried and we ain't psychic either. Telling is what bad experience he had with their tech support in more concrete terms would make me feel like he did due diligence if I had to take sides then we could feel like Bluefinity let him down when he gave them some data about what does not work if he gives us some info about his contact with them. On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 6:47 PM, Symeon Breen syme...@gmail.com wrote: Tis the customers fault if they do not inform the supplier of any problems - until suppliers become psychic that is ! -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Bill Haskett Sent: 03 August 2010 22:47 To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] mv.NET and U2.NET Ahhh. The old customer's fault perspective. I like that...I only wish I could use it myself. :-) Bill David Cooper (Support#2) said the following on 8/3/2010 10:09 AM: Bill, BlueFinity pays very close attention to its customers. We pride ourselves on our responsiveness to customer issues and have many, many testimonials from our customer base that testify to this fact. If customers do not communicate issues to us how are we supposed to assist? David -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Bill Haskett Sent: 03 August 2010 16:56 To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] mv.NET and U2.NET David: If you're astonished, you may want to pay more attention to your customers. Bill David Cooper (Support#2) said the following on 8/3/2010 1:34 AM: Charlie, I am, to put it mildly, absolutely astonished to read your comments about mv.NET. Have you posted this feedback to the Bluefinity support team? On what basis are you assessing the cost of mv.NET as being very expensive? Compared to what else? What mv.NET process(es) are you classifying as a resource HOG? Again, to my knowledge, BlueFinity support has received absolutely nothing relating to this issue from your organization. What kind of data movement pattern is being performed at the store you mention? Did anyone at Inland Truck ask BlueFinity for assistance in diagnosing this issue? It seems to me as though a little more communication with BlueFinity support might me to the benefit of everyone here. As for U2.NET, I refer you to Tony Gravagno's post on this thread. David Cooper Lead developer BlueFinity International __ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For
Re: [U2] mv.NET and U2.NET
Charles: Firstly, I never complained in this forum. I only asked who's using mv.NET, U2.NET, why, are there issues, have they moved from one to another, and why. I thought I'd get some honest feedback on these two closely related products. I had no intention of starting anything, just wanted some plain and simple thoughts and comments. Secondly, whatever issues I ever had with a vendor, be they BlueFinity or anyone else, I always communicate and work with them; that goes without saying. Thirdly, I was poking fun at David's email because I often find myself in the same boat as he describes and even though it'd be nice to blame someone once in awhile, this never seems to resolve anything (the point of the poke). :-) That said, I can now get back to reading my Viagra email. :-) Bill Charles Carroll said the following on 8/3/2010 4:18 PM: I do think Bill's issues may be legit, but he is not responding like someone who contacted the vendor and attempted to resolve the issue. He speaks like someone that saw some issues and considered them egregious but did not follow up to see if the problems were a black swan or white one just assumed the whole technology was problematic without investigation / speaking to the experts. If Bill wants to prove my assumption wrong by saying 'I contacted this person by email and this one by phone # and after a hour conversation or 6 emails no resolution occurred' I would feel like he really tried to see whether his issues are typical or edge case. I do think in an ideal world we never should have to contact vendors it should all just work, but the windows software 'stack' lends itself to lots of side effects that specific vendors will have seen with their software. I had a Postcript printer card that corrupted my hard disk (very bizarre side effect) and windows search scanning a constantly churning XML file on iTunes brought my 64-bit 16 gig of RAM quad core desktop to it's knees so yeah windows software stack things can get really ugly in certain combinations. We have a pretty complex millions of rows transfer/Import/Data Warehouse we are/were considering Bluefinity for and my co-wroker Angela and me and our U2 genius all worked with them in a pre-sales situation and they helped us explained many options and got a HUGE IMPORT working that showed they could handle very high volume and presented us with a few ways and scenarios their customers work with large data to give us some other options for our complex data warehouse loading scenarios. They do seem to know their product, have some successful customers and are excited to help make things work if given the data that things are not working whereas I have met with many vendors that just don't care. But that being said maybe Bill did contact people at Bluefinity and have bad experiences and just is not telling us and has a legit gripe because their tech support dropped the ball, but I don't think he has told us enough to come to the conclusion he tried and we ain't psychic either. Telling is what bad experience he had with their tech support in more concrete terms would make me feel like he did due diligence if I had to take sides then we could feel like Bluefinity let him down when he gave them some data about what does not work if he gives us some info about his contact with them. On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 6:47 PM, Symeon Breensyme...@gmail.com wrote: Tis the customers fault if they do not inform the supplier of any problems - until suppliers become psychic that is ! -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Bill Haskett Sent: 03 August 2010 22:47 To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] mv.NET and U2.NET Ahhh. The old customer's fault perspective. I like that...I only wish I could use it myself. :-) Bill David Cooper (Support#2) said the following on 8/3/2010 10:09 AM: Bill, BlueFinity pays very close attention to its customers. We pride ourselves on our responsiveness to customer issues and have many, many testimonials from our customer base that testify to this fact. If customers do not communicate issues to us how are we supposed to assist? David -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Bill Haskett Sent: 03 August 2010 16:56 To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] mv.NET and U2.NET David: If you're astonished, you may want to pay more attention to your customers. Bill David Cooper (Support#2) said the following on 8/3/2010 1:34 AM: Charlie, I am, to put it mildly, absolutely astonished to read your comments about mv.NET. Have you posted this feedback to the Bluefinity
Re: [U2] mv.NET and U2.NET
I hope the turn this thread has taken can be straightened out. Bill Haskett (Advantos Software) is a valued client of Nebula RD, and we also happen to be good friends. Nebula provides and supports his mv.NET software, and we're in fairly frequent contact. I think Bill made a harmless inquiry and the thread went off on an unfortunate tangent. I've exchanged notes with him. We're on the same page, as always. BlueFinity has also been in contact with him, just to make sure they're being properly represented by (us) their channel partners. :) I don't mind Bill asking about other offerings. That's just pragmatic, professional, and good business. I'm always considering alternatives for specific environments as well, because my business is about providing solutions, not products. We all need to do this. In this market, it's unfortunate, but (with the exception of U2 itself and a few other community forums) people just don't talk about the software they use. That gives the impression that no one is using the tools. I really wish we'd see more enthusiasm for these products because it would help us all to grow in our understanding of the depth of the tools. The mv.NET forum gets no hits, in part because everyone gets their answers from their sales/support people. The same goes for DesignBais, UO.NET, QMClient, Viságe, FlashCONNECT, and many other products. Maybe high quality software and excellent support serve as a form of anti-marketing? :) C'est la vie. Tony Gravagno Nebula Research and Development TG@ remove.pleaseNebula-RnD.com Nebula RD sells mv.NET and other Pick/MultiValue products worldwide, and provides related development services remove.pleaseNebula-RnD.com/blog Visit PickWiki.com! Contribute! http://Twitter.com/TonyGravagno ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] mv.NET and U2.NET
Hi Tony, There's an MV.NET forum? News to me. Tell me how to access it and I will definitely check it out. The more I can learn, the better, and these forums are a great source of knowledge from the users themselves. As I said earlier, I'm not working directly with MV.NET, one of our programmers is (and a damn fine programmer he is, too). I was passing along what I've gotten from him. If we can get info that will make his job easier and add to his knowledge, then this whole thing can be productive. I really didn't intend to start a war, but there's definitely been some lively discussion, and that's usually a good thing (at least I hope so). My apologies to anyone I have offended. If you just disagree with me, and weren't offended, that's OK. I'm a big boy and I can take it ;^). Best regards, Charlie Noah On 08-03-2010 7:51 PM, Tony Gravagno wrote: I hope the turn this thread has taken can be straightened out. Bill Haskett (Advantos Software) is a valued client of Nebula RD, and we also happen to be good friends. Nebula provides and supports his mv.NET software, and we're in fairly frequent contact. I think Bill made a harmless inquiry and the thread went off on an unfortunate tangent. I've exchanged notes with him. We're on the same page, as always. BlueFinity has also been in contact with him, just to make sure they're being properly represented by (us) their channel partners. :) I don't mind Bill asking about other offerings. That's just pragmatic, professional, and good business. I'm always considering alternatives for specific environments as well, because my business is about providing solutions, not products. We all need to do this. In this market, it's unfortunate, but (with the exception of U2 itself and a few other community forums) people just don't talk about the software they use. That gives the impression that no one is using the tools. I really wish we'd see more enthusiasm for these products because it would help us all to grow in our understanding of the depth of the tools. The mv.NET forum gets no hits, in part because everyone gets their answers from their sales/support people. The same goes for DesignBais, UO.NET, QMClient, Viságe, FlashCONNECT, and many other products. Maybe high quality software and excellent support serve as a form of anti-marketing? :) C'est la vie. Tony Gravagno Nebula Research and Development TG@ remove.pleaseNebula-RnD.com Nebula RD sells mv.NET and other Pick/MultiValue products worldwide, and provides related development services remove.pleaseNebula-RnD.com/blog Visit PickWiki.com! Contribute! http://Twitter.com/TonyGravagno ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] mv.NET and U2.NET
From: Charlie Noah There's an MV.NET forum? News to me. Tell me how to access it and I will definitely check it out. The more I can learn, the better As I said earlier, I'm not working directly with MV.NET, one of our programmers is (and a damn fine programmer he is, too). I was passing along what I've gotten from him. If we can get info that will make his job easier and add to his knowledge, then this whole thing can be productive. Respectfully, my friend, please contact your mv.NET _value-add_ reseller and give them the opportunity to answer your questions about the software, performance, the forum, etc. I think that issue is what prompted the confusion in this thread. Without trying to be too competitive here, this is exactly the sort of thing that differentiates resellers, and I try to make sure my company excels in this area. Now I need to sit back and reconcile that statement with the fact that it was my client who started this thread. Hey, gotta be real. ;) Regards, Tony Gravagno Nebula Research and Development TG@ remove.pleaseNebula-RnD.com remove.pleaseNebula-RnD.com/blog Visit PickWiki.com! Contribute! http://Twitter.com/TonyGravagno ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
