Re: [U2] Compiling 102
Bill, By default CATALOG will catalog programs globally. To catalog a program locally you have to use the LOCAL option. This will generate a VOC entry for the program name without the file name. So CATALOG BP CODE LOCAL will generate a VOC entry named CODE. To run the program you only need to type CODE at ECL and your program will run. Quite simple really. Mecki On 20/10/2010 17:06, Bill Brutzman wrote: I have been using Revision suffixes and VOC. In other words... LOGTO SANDBOX ED VOC SAMPLE.PROGRAM PA RUN BP SAMPLE.PROGRAM.R1 -- R2 save BASIC BP SAMPLE.PROGRAM.R2 After the program is found to be workable... LOGTO METAL ED VOC SAMPLE.PROGRAM PA RUN BP SAMPLE.PROGRAM.R1 -- R2 save I have only been using CATALOG to register global SUBs. --Bill -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Mark Eastwood Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 11:44 AM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] Compiling 102 You might want to consider having two BP files - Production and Test (Sandbox?) - e.g. BP and TEST.BP You then use the CATALOG command to control which version is running. Mark -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Bill Brutzman Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 8:28 AM To: U2 Users List Subject: [U2] Compiling 102 1. It works. Thanks to Kat, Tom, Vance, and Drew. 2. I am wondering if others keep their source code in an UV account as such. 3. Prior to this thread, I had two accounts /u2/METAL /u2/SANDBOX 4. The source code was not in a UV account in /u2/SOFTWARE 5. An advantage that I seem to have now is that I can compile code when logged in to either METAL or SANDBOX and the compiled code works in both METAL and SANDBOX. In other words, I do not have to compile the same source code for each account. It is not clear to me how VOC and Q-Pointers are setup to handle this scheme. 6. Comments would be welcome. --Bill ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
[U2] NoSQL
Everything I have read about the NoSQL movement in the past year has met the requirements of U2. Depending on who you are talking to, NoSQL means Not Only SQL or NO SQL. One of the advantages of U2 is that we meet both these definitions. Has anyone been marketing themselves as a NoSQL expert? If this isn't just the latest fad, this could be a huge boost for U2 supporters... Thoughts? 'We act as though comfort and luxury were the chief requirements of life, when all that we need to make us happy is something to be enthusiastic about.' ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
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Re: [U2] Compiling 102
The usage of the CATALOG command depends on the flavor you are using. Jerry Banker -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Mecki Foerthmann Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 2:24 AM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] Compiling 102 Bill, By default CATALOG will catalog programs globally. To catalog a program locally you have to use the LOCAL option. This will generate a VOC entry for the program name without the file name. So CATALOG BP CODE LOCAL will generate a VOC entry named CODE. To run the program you only need to type CODE at ECL and your program will run. Quite simple really. Mecki On 20/10/2010 17:06, Bill Brutzman wrote: I have been using Revision suffixes and VOC. In other words... LOGTO SANDBOX ED VOC SAMPLE.PROGRAM PA RUN BP SAMPLE.PROGRAM.R1 -- R2 save BASIC BP SAMPLE.PROGRAM.R2 After the program is found to be workable... LOGTO METAL ED VOC SAMPLE.PROGRAM PA RUN BP SAMPLE.PROGRAM.R1 -- R2 save I have only been using CATALOG to register global SUBs. --Bill -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Mark Eastwood Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 11:44 AM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] Compiling 102 You might want to consider having two BP files - Production and Test (Sandbox?) - e.g. BP and TEST.BP You then use the CATALOG command to control which version is running. Mark -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Bill Brutzman Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 8:28 AM To: U2 Users List Subject: [U2] Compiling 102 1. It works. Thanks to Kat, Tom, Vance, and Drew. 2. I am wondering if others keep their source code in an UV account as such. 3. Prior to this thread, I had two accounts /u2/METAL /u2/SANDBOX 4. The source code was not in a UV account in /u2/SOFTWARE 5. An advantage that I seem to have now is that I can compile code when logged in to either METAL or SANDBOX and the compiled code works in both METAL and SANDBOX. In other words, I do not have to compile the same source code for each account. It is not clear to me how VOC and Q-Pointers are setup to handle this scheme. 6. Comments would be welcome. --Bill ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] NoSQL
You said, Some industry insiders are trying to claim that the old databases cannot fit under that heading. One of the things that I am having trouble with is the definition. There seems to be many definitions and criteria for what NoSQL means and many of them are ambiguous at best. Bottom line, NoSQL touts faster access to data, which has been what the MV community has been saying for years. ACID guarantees seem to be the biggest hurdle I have seen so far. Do you know WHY they are saying that U2 cannot fit the ambiguous NoSQL definition? PS – I have been following Cache Intersystem for a while and (IMO) they are at the leading edge of being able to apply as many of the benefits that NoSQL is touting… 'We act as though comfort and luxury were the chief requirements of life, when all that we need to make us happy is something to be enthusiastic about.' - Original Message From: Dawn Wolthuis dw...@tincat-group.com To: U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Thu, October 21, 2010 8:35:35 AM Subject: Re: [U2] NoSQL I made a passionate pitch to a few folks in a meeting at Spectrum this year that we start marketing our niche that way. It wasn't met with disdain, but also not with a lot of interest, it seemed. The nosql.com and .org domains are held by an MV person since a few of us coined the term in 2006 or so (before others coined it, although there is an outside chance they saw the No SQL symbol in my 2006 blog, read by more non-MV folks than I expected, about 20,000 unique visitors). Now some industry insiders are trying to claim that the old databases cannot fit under that heading, but I sure think we can. We should get our noses in there, in my opinion. I suspect some are doing that, but not yet in a big enough way to be visible. Check out this paper that mumps folks did at http://www.google.com/url?sa=Dq=http://www.mgateway.com/docs/universalNoSQL.pdfusg=AFQjCNGv19S_1lFurM49IDmfErFjDu1mfQ. We pickies might be well-served to do likewise. I suggested quite a while ago to InterSystems (and again more recently) that they wave the NoSQL banner, but they have such a fantastic and fast SQL product (the best in the MV space, but also great in the relational space) that they want to tout that. Their MV Query language is far faster than most because it is built on top of THEIR SQL implementation, a far cry from typical SQL performance. There needs to be a NotJustSQL designation that is clearer, I suspect. cheers! --dawn On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 7:44 AM, Shawn Hayes go_mnviki...@yahoo.com wrote: Everything I have read about the NoSQL movement in the past year has met the requirements of U2. Depending on who you are talking to, NoSQL means Not Only SQL or NO SQL. One of the advantages of U2 is that we meet both these definitions. Has anyone been marketing themselves as a NoSQL expert? If this isn't just the latest fad, this could be a huge boost for U2 supporters... Thoughts? 'We act as though comfort and luxury were the chief requirements of life, when all that we need to make us happy is something to be enthusiastic about.' ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users -- Dawn M. Wolthuis Take and give some delight today ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] NoSQL
u2 is listed in the nosql pages http://www.nosql-databases.org/ I do not think we can market ourselves as no-sql experts - u2 experts yes - but the nosql movement is more than knowing one particular database. Many of the more 'modern' nosql db's have a lot of features we certainly do not have in u2 - like auto sharding, clustering, map/reduce etc - one of my favourites in MongoDB - used by a lot of high avail, high transaction people for example bit.ly. From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Shawn Hayes Sent: 21 October 2010 13:45 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: [U2] NoSQL Everything I have read about the NoSQL movement in the past year has met the requirements of U2. Depending on who you are talking to, NoSQL means Not Only SQL or NO SQL. One of the advantages of U2 is that we meet both these definitions. Has anyone been marketing themselves as a NoSQL expert? If this isn't just the latest fad, this could be a huge boost for U2 supporters... Thoughts? 'We act as though comfort and luxury were the chief requirements of life, when all that we need to make us happy is something to be enthusiastic about.' ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users _ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1136 / Virus Database: 422/3209 - Release Date: 10/20/10 ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] NoSQL
I thought that the reasoning behind NoSQL wasn't to speed up access, but that all aspects of gigantic databases cannot be made available to a given user at a given moment. So it's a kind of distributed database without a universal view of real-time data. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] NoSQL
To Symeon's point, there are some key componants missing (like sharding as you point out) but the architecture of the database is the 'selling point'. We don't just know 'U2', we understand and have realized the advantages of multivalue databases in real life applications. On Thu Oct 21st, 2010 11:42 AM CDT fft2...@aol.com wrote: I thought that the reasoning behind NoSQL wasn't to speed up access, but that all aspects of gigantic databases cannot be made available to a given user at a given moment. So it's a kind of distributed database without a universal view of real-time data. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] NoSQL
I was fortunate to attend the recent Emerging Technologies Conference in Philadelphia PA. I remember the Cassandra presenter invoked blasphemies like forget about persisting data when considering application like social networking. Thus real-time chit-chat (is in RAM) and takes big priority over last week's chit-chat . --Bill -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of fft2...@aol.com Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 12:42 PM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] NoSQL I thought that the reasoning behind NoSQL wasn't to speed up access, but that all aspects of gigantic databases cannot be made available to a given user at a given moment. So it's a kind of distributed database without a universal view of real-time data. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] NoSQL
I think this has been a big driving force in the nosql movement - massive databases with high avail and high transactions are very common these days, To do these types of systems in oracle or sql server would require rooms of servers and complex architecture, many of these databases like Cassandra, Hadoop etal tackle this problem. U2 could be good in this arena as it is a small footprint fairly fast simplistic interface, but it falls a long way short fulfilling these distributed, and horizontal scaling requirements that many of the nosql databases excel at. From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Bill Brutzman Sent: 21 October 2010 18:53 To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] NoSQL I was fortunate to attend the recent Emerging Technologies Conference in Philadelphia PA. I remember the Cassandra presenter invoked blasphemies like forget about persisting data when considering application like social networking. Thus real-time chit-chat (is in RAM) and takes big priority over last week's chit-chat . --Bill -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of fft2...@aol.com Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 12:42 PM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] NoSQL I thought that the reasoning behind NoSQL wasn't to speed up access, but that all aspects of gigantic databases cannot be made available to a given user at a given moment. So it's a kind of distributed database without a universal view of real-time data. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users _ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1136 / Virus Database: 422/3210 - Release Date: 10/21/10 ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
[U2] Licensing
Hello, We have always used only RDBMS licenses and have always had plenty of seats. Recently we are hitting our limit. We also access our Unidata dabases from web apps. I am hoping for some advise on connection pooling and device licensing as a way to allow more sessions without more licenses. Charles Shaffer Senior Analyst NTN-Bower Corporation ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Licensing
Are they all real users? We have times on UV / Unix where a uv process goes zombie and doesn't release the seat. After we manually kill of the zombie process, the seat opens back up. George -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users- boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of charles_shaf...@ntn-bower.com Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 3:08 PM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: [U2] Licensing Hello, We have always used only RDBMS licenses and have always had plenty of seats. Recently we are hitting our limit. We also access our Unidata dabases from web apps. I am hoping for some advise on connection pooling and device licensing as a way to allow more sessions without more licenses. Charles Shaffer Senior Analyst NTN-Bower Corporation ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Licensing
I think there is some of that, but for the most part they are real. Some folks like to keep 4 or 5 sessions open at a time instead of moving around between screens. Charles Shaffer Senior Analyst NTN-Bower Corporation George Gallen ggal...@wyanokegroup.com Sent by: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org 10/21/2010 02:21 PM Please respond to U2 Users List To: U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org cc: Subject:Re: [U2] Licensing Are they all real users? We have times on UV / Unix where a uv process goes zombie and doesn't release the seat. After we manually kill of the zombie process, the seat opens back up. George -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users- boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of charles_shaf...@ntn-bower.com Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 3:08 PM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: [U2] Licensing Hello, We have always used only RDBMS licenses and have always had plenty of seats. Recently we are hitting our limit. We also access our Unidata dabases from web apps. I am hoping for some advise on connection pooling and device licensing as a way to allow more sessions without more licenses. Charles Shaffer Senior Analyst NTN-Bower Corporation ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Licensing
Shorten the autologout limit? -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users- boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of charles_shaf...@ntn-bower.com Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 3:28 PM To: U2 Users List Cc: U2 Users List; u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] Licensing I think there is some of that, but for the most part they are real. Some folks like to keep 4 or 5 sessions open at a time instead of moving around between screens. Charles Shaffer Senior Analyst NTN-Bower Corporation ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Licensing
On Thu, 21 Oct 2010, charles_shaf...@ntn-bower.com wrote: I think there is some of that, but for the most part they are real. Some folks like to keep 4 or 5 sessions open at a time instead of moving around between screens. Note that (unless something changed recently) your licensing actually is based on number of users, not sessions. If you have a terminal emulator that can handle this, properly configured, one user on one machine with 5 open sessions will consume only one license. Our Anzio emulators can do this. Regards, Bob Rasmussen, President, Rasmussen Software, Inc. personal e-mail: r...@anzio.com company e-mail: r...@anzio.com voice: (US) 503-624-0360 (9:00-6:00 Pacific Time) fax: (US) 503-624-0760 web: http://www.anzio.com street address: Rasmussen Software, Inc. 10240 SW Nimbus, Suite L9 Portland, OR 97223 USA ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Licensing
There has been a lot of discussion about that. If there is a way to take advantage of device licenses or connection pooling, we would like to take a look at that. Charles Shaffer Senior Analyst NTN-Bower Corporation George Gallen ggal...@wyanokegroup.com Sent by: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org 10/21/2010 02:28 PM Please respond to U2 Users List To: U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org cc: Subject:Re: [U2] Licensing Shorten the autologout limit? -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users- boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of charles_shaf...@ntn-bower.com Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 3:28 PM To: U2 Users List Cc: U2 Users List; u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] Licensing I think there is some of that, but for the most part they are real. Some folks like to keep 4 or 5 sessions open at a time instead of moving around between screens. Charles Shaffer Senior Analyst NTN-Bower Corporation ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Licensing
Our users are accessing UniData through a VB-based GUI interface and it appears that it is using a license per session. Charles Shaffer Senior Analyst NTN-Bower Corporation Bob Rasmussen r...@anzio.com Sent by: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org 10/21/2010 02:31 PM Please respond to U2 Users List To: U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org cc: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org Subject:Re: [U2] Licensing On Thu, 21 Oct 2010, charles_shaf...@ntn-bower.com wrote: I think there is some of that, but for the most part they are real. Some folks like to keep 4 or 5 sessions open at a time instead of moving around between screens. Note that (unless something changed recently) your licensing actually is based on number of users, not sessions. If you have a terminal emulator that can handle this, properly configured, one user on one machine with 5 open sessions will consume only one license. Our Anzio emulators can do this. Regards, Bob Rasmussen, President, Rasmussen Software, Inc. personal e-mail: r...@anzio.com company e-mail: r...@anzio.com voice: (US) 503-624-0360 (9:00-6:00 Pacific Time) fax: (US) 503-624-0760 web: http://www.anzio.com street address: Rasmussen Software, Inc. 10240 SW Nimbus, Suite L9 Portland, OR 97223 USA ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Licensing
You will find connection pooling much faster for your web connections. I presume they are using uniobjects (.net or java). IF they are not pooled, each connection has to login, do its work, and logout. Pools are ideal if your web transactions are in and out pretty quick. If your web connections come in and stay in for a while then you had best stick with non pooled. The idea of a pooled connection is that a smaller number of connections stay logged in and can then handle lots of web transactions coming in and out. Device licensing means you can have up to ten connections from one ip using a single licence. This is meant for a single PC user who may have a telnet client and a .net client using uniobjects open at the same time, in reality they are just one user so should not be taking multiple licences. However non pooled uniobjects connections from a web server will also use device licensing so the first 10 connections will use 1 licence and any subsequent ones take a full licence each. Whether this is in the spirit of device licensing i am not sure... From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of charles_shaf...@ntn-bower.com Sent: 21 October 2010 20:08 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: [U2] Licensing Hello, We have always used only RDBMS licenses and have always had plenty of seats. Recently we are hitting our limit. We also access our Unidata dabases from web apps. I am hoping for some advise on connection pooling and device licensing as a way to allow more sessions without more licenses. Charles Shaffer Senior Analyst NTN-Bower Corporation ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users _ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1136 / Virus Database: 422/3210 - Release Date: 10/21/10 ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Licensing
That's where the device licensing comes in - but it will only work on products that are device licensing enabled, such as Accuterm and apparently Anzio mentioned below. I'm not sure what other products it will work with. -Dianne On 10/21/2010 3:36 PM, charles_shaf...@ntn-bower.com wrote: Our users are accessing UniData through a VB-based GUI interface and it appears that it is using a license per session. Charles Shaffer Senior Analyst NTN-Bower Corporation Bob Rasmussenr...@anzio.com Sent by: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org 10/21/2010 02:31 PM Please respond to U2 Users List To: U2 Users Listu2-users@listserver.u2ug.org cc: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org Subject:Re: [U2] Licensing On Thu, 21 Oct 2010, charles_shaf...@ntn-bower.com wrote: I think there is some of that, but for the most part they are real. Some folks like to keep 4 or 5 sessions open at a time instead of moving around between screens. Note that (unless something changed recently) your licensing actually is based on number of users, not sessions. If you have a terminal emulator that can handle this, properly configured, one user on one machine with 5 open sessions will consume only one license. Our Anzio emulators can do this. Regards, Bob Rasmussen, President, Rasmussen Software, Inc. personal e-mail: r...@anzio.com company e-mail: r...@anzio.com voice: (US) 503-624-0360 (9:00-6:00 Pacific Time) fax: (US) 503-624-0760 web: http://www.anzio.com street address: Rasmussen Software, Inc. 10240 SW Nimbus, Suite L9 Portland, OR 97223 USA ___ ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Licensing
There is a dll such products can use to do device licencing - it is also built into uniobjects, so his VB app may have it anyway. However it has to be switched on and licenced at ud/uv as well. From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Dianne Ackerman Sent: 21 October 2010 20:51 To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] Licensing That's where the device licensing comes in - but it will only work on products that are device licensing enabled, such as Accuterm and apparently Anzio mentioned below. I'm not sure what other products it will work with. -Dianne On 10/21/2010 3:36 PM, charles_shaf...@ntn-bower.com wrote: Our users are accessing UniData through a VB-based GUI interface and it appears that it is using a license per session. Charles Shaffer Senior Analyst NTN-Bower Corporation Bob Rasmussenr...@anzio.com Sent by: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org 10/21/2010 02:31 PM Please respond to U2 Users List To: U2 Users Listu2-users@listserver.u2ug.org cc: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org Subject:Re: [U2] Licensing On Thu, 21 Oct 2010, charles_shaf...@ntn-bower.com wrote: I think there is some of that, but for the most part they are real. Some folks like to keep 4 or 5 sessions open at a time instead of moving around between screens. Note that (unless something changed recently) your licensing actually is based on number of users, not sessions. If you have a terminal emulator that can handle this, properly configured, one user on one machine with 5 open sessions will consume only one license. Our Anzio emulators can do this. Regards, Bob Rasmussen, President, Rasmussen Software, Inc. personal e-mail: r...@anzio.com company e-mail: r...@anzio.com voice: (US) 503-624-0360 (9:00-6:00 Pacific Time) fax: (US) 503-624-0760 web: http://www.anzio.com street address: Rasmussen Software, Inc. 10240 SW Nimbus, Suite L9 Portland, OR 97223 USA ___ ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users _ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1136 / Virus Database: 422/3210 - Release Date: 10/21/10 ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Licensing
Symeon, Good advice. Right now most of our usage is from users who are logging in to multiple sessions from one IP. Sounds like device licensing would work for that. Our web access is completely quick in and outs. Right now it is less of our usage than the user logins, although it is growing. Sounds like connection pooling is something we should look at down the road. Thanks everyone. Charles Shaffer Senior Analyst NTN-Bower Corporation Symeon Breen syme...@gmail.com Sent by: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org 10/21/2010 02:51 PM Please respond to U2 Users List To: 'U2 Users List' u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org cc: Subject:Re: [U2] Licensing You will find connection pooling much faster for your web connections. I presume they are using uniobjects (.net or java). IF they are not pooled, each connection has to login, do its work, and logout. Pools are ideal if your web transactions are in and out pretty quick. If your web connections come in and stay in for a while then you had best stick with non pooled. The idea of a pooled connection is that a smaller number of connections stay logged in and can then handle lots of web transactions coming in and out. Device licensing means you can have up to ten connections from one ip using a single licence. This is meant for a single PC user who may have a telnet client and a .net client using uniobjects open at the same time, in reality they are just one user so should not be taking multiple licences. However non pooled uniobjects connections from a web server will also use device licensing so the first 10 connections will use 1 licence and any subsequent ones take a full licence each. Whether this is in the spirit of device licensing i am not sure... From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of charles_shaf...@ntn-bower.com Sent: 21 October 2010 20:08 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: [U2] Licensing Hello, We have always used only RDBMS licenses and have always had plenty of seats. Recently we are hitting our limit. We also access our Unidata dabases from web apps. I am hoping for some advise on connection pooling and device licensing as a way to allow more sessions without more licenses. Charles Shaffer Senior Analyst NTN-Bower Corporation ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users _ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1136 / Virus Database: 422/3210 - Release Date: 10/21/10 ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Licensing
I like to use a small script in the .profile of *ix to limit the number of simultaneous logins to say 3 Roy -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of charles_shaf...@ntn-bower.com Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 4:00 PM To: U2 Users List Cc: 'U2 Users List'; u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] Licensing Symeon, Good advice. Right now most of our usage is from users who are logging in to multiple sessions from one IP. Sounds like device licensing would work for that. Our web access is completely quick in and outs. Right now it is less of our usage than the user logins, although it is growing. Sounds like connection pooling is something we should look at down the road. Thanks everyone. Charles Shaffer Senior Analyst NTN-Bower Corporation Symeon Breen syme...@gmail.com Sent by: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org 10/21/2010 02:51 PM Please respond to U2 Users List To: 'U2 Users List' u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org cc: Subject:Re: [U2] Licensing You will find connection pooling much faster for your web connections. I presume they are using uniobjects (.net or java). IF they are not pooled, each connection has to login, do its work, and logout. Pools are ideal if your web transactions are in and out pretty quick. If your web connections come in and stay in for a while then you had best stick with non pooled. The idea of a pooled connection is that a smaller number of connections stay logged in and can then handle lots of web transactions coming in and out. Device licensing means you can have up to ten connections from one ip using a single licence. This is meant for a single PC user who may have a telnet client and a .net client using uniobjects open at the same time, in reality they are just one user so should not be taking multiple licences. However non pooled uniobjects connections from a web server will also use device licensing so the first 10 connections will use 1 licence and any subsequent ones take a full licence each. Whether this is in the spirit of device licensing i am not sure... From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of charles_shaf...@ntn-bower.com Sent: 21 October 2010 20:08 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: [U2] Licensing Hello, We have always used only RDBMS licenses and have always had plenty of seats. Recently we are hitting our limit. We also access our Unidata dabases from web apps. I am hoping for some advise on connection pooling and device licensing as a way to allow more sessions without more licenses. Charles Shaffer Senior Analyst NTN-Bower Corporation ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users _ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1136 / Virus Database: 422/3210 - Release Date: 10/21/10 ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Licensing
I like to use a small script in the .profile of *ix to limit the number of simultaneous logins to say 3 Roy The users feel they have a legitimate need for having quick access to all of the screens. I'm not sure if they do, but I've never done their jobs so I hesitate to argue with them. Charles Shaffer Senior Analyst NTN-Bower Corporation ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Licensing
Could you convert the licenses, or did you have to rebuy them? We changed from standard licensing to device licensing because of the fact that many of our users have multiple sessions open of the same IP. It has helped tremendously. We use to run out of licenses on a regular basis with only 75 users on a 117 license system. Now we have kept the same number of licenses except they are device licenses and we hardly ever run out. The only time that we have is when we had too many objects left as zombies and it was a heavy day for the web. Just as an aside we use Accuterm which has a configuration selection for device licensing. Jerry Banker Charles Shaffer Senior Analyst NTN-Bower Corporation ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Licensing
Not sure if I read DW's message correctly, but we have device licensing here and it works as follows; 1 device license means from 1 IP/device you can login to a maximum 10 uv sessions (thus only using 1 license) So 10 device licenses (10 individual IP's) equates to maximum number of 100 sessions . And can you mix your licenses on one machine?? Regards, Jeff Marcos -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of David Wolverton Sent: Friday, 22 October 2010 6:38 AM To: 'U2 Users List' Cc: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] Licensing You have to BUY device licensing for this to be true... If you device license 3 devices - and connect 4 sessions from one IP, you will end up using TWO seats - one for the first 3 sessions, and then 1 for every session thereafter. DW -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Bob Rasmussen Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 2:32 PM To: U2 Users List Cc: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] Licensing On Thu, 21 Oct 2010, charles_shaf...@ntn-bower.com wrote: I think there is some of that, but for the most part they are real. Some folks like to keep 4 or 5 sessions open at a time instead of moving around between screens. Note that (unless something changed recently) your licensing actually is based on number of users, not sessions. If you have a terminal emulator that can handle this, properly configured, one user on one machine with 5 open sessions will consume only one license. Our Anzio emulators can do this. Regards, Bob Rasmussen, President, Rasmussen Software, Inc. personal e-mail: r...@anzio.com company e-mail: r...@anzio.com voice: (US) 503-624-0360 (9:00-6:00 Pacific Time) fax: (US) 503-624-0760 web: http://www.anzio.com street address: Rasmussen Software, Inc. 10240 SW Nimbus, Suite L9 Portland, OR 97223 USA ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users The information contained in this email and any attached files are strictly private and confidential. This email should be read by the intended addressee only. If the recipient of this message is not the intended addressee, please call Corporate Express Australia Limited on +61 2 9335 0555 or Corporate Express New Zealand Limited on +64 9 271 7600 and promptly delete this email and any attachments. The intended recipient of this email may only use, reproduce, disclose or distribute the information contained in this email and any attached files with Corporate Express' permission. If you are not the intended addressee, you are strictly prohibited from using, reproducing, disclosing or distributing the information contained in this email and any attached files. Corporate Express advises that this email and any attached files should be scanned to detect viruses. Corporate Express accepts no liability for loss or damage (whether caused by negligence or not) resulting from the use of any attached files. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Licensing
As I understand, some of it depends on whether you have WorkGroup, Server, or Enterprise. You can have X count of device licenses allowed per IP address, with 10 I think being the maximum (10 is the 'standard count' for WorkGroup level licenses as well I think - it's 'built in' to WorkGroup licenses.) For server you 'choose' you Device License 'count'. And your example is correct - only thing to note is that if one machine has 12 connections and you have '10' as you Device License count, I think you'd end up being dinged 3 seats (1 for the first 10, then 1 for every seat used past 10). That's why if you are 'choosing' your device license count (as you would on the server licensing) you want to choose wisely! DW -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Jeff Marcos Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 10:22 PM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] Licensing Not sure if I read DW's message correctly, but we have device licensing here and it works as follows; 1 device license means from 1 IP/device you can login to a maximum 10 uv sessions (thus only using 1 license) So 10 device licenses (10 individual IP's) equates to maximum number of 100 sessions . And can you mix your licenses on one machine?? Regards, Jeff Marcos -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of David Wolverton Sent: Friday, 22 October 2010 6:38 AM To: 'U2 Users List' Cc: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] Licensing You have to BUY device licensing for this to be true... If you device license 3 devices - and connect 4 sessions from one IP, you will end up using TWO seats - one for the first 3 sessions, and then 1 for every session thereafter. DW -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Bob Rasmussen Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 2:32 PM To: U2 Users List Cc: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] Licensing On Thu, 21 Oct 2010, charles_shaf...@ntn-bower.com wrote: I think there is some of that, but for the most part they are real. Some folks like to keep 4 or 5 sessions open at a time instead of moving around between screens. Note that (unless something changed recently) your licensing actually is based on number of users, not sessions. If you have a terminal emulator that can handle this, properly configured, one user on one machine with 5 open sessions will consume only one license. Our Anzio emulators can do this. Regards, Bob Rasmussen, President, Rasmussen Software, Inc. personal e-mail: r...@anzio.com company e-mail: r...@anzio.com voice: (US) 503-624-0360 (9:00-6:00 Pacific Time) fax: (US) 503-624-0760 web: http://www.anzio.com street address: Rasmussen Software, Inc. 10240 SW Nimbus, Suite L9 Portland, OR 97223 USA ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users The information contained in this email and any attached files are strictly private and confidential. This email should be read by the intended addressee only. If the recipient of this message is not the intended addressee, please call Corporate Express Australia Limited on +61 2 9335 0555 or Corporate Express New Zealand Limited on +64 9 271 7600 and promptly delete this email and any attachments. The intended recipient of this email may only use, reproduce, disclose or distribute the information contained in this email and any attached files with Corporate Express' permission. If you are not the intended addressee, you are strictly prohibited from using, reproducing, disclosing or distributing the information contained in this email and any attached files. Corporate Express advises that this email and any attached files should be scanned to detect viruses. Corporate Express accepts no liability for loss or damage (whether caused by negligence or not) resulting from the use of any attached files. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Licensing
Would depend on the TYPE of licences you have as to wether device licencing would work for you I believe Ross Ferris Stamina Software Visage Better by Design! -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users- boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of charles_shaf...@ntn-bower.com Sent: Friday, 22 October 2010 6:34 AM To: U2 Users List Cc: U2 Users List; u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] Licensing There has been a lot of discussion about that. If there is a way to take advantage of device licenses or connection pooling, we would like to take a look at that. Charles Shaffer Senior Analyst NTN-Bower Corporation George Gallen ggal...@wyanokegroup.com Sent by: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org 10/21/2010 02:28 PM Please respond to U2 Users List To: U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org cc: Subject:Re: [U2] Licensing Shorten the autologout limit? -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users- boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of charles_shaf...@ntn- bower.com Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 3:28 PM To: U2 Users List Cc: U2 Users List; u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] Licensing I think there is some of that, but for the most part they are real. Some folks like to keep 4 or 5 sessions open at a time instead of moving around between screens. Charles Shaffer Senior Analyst NTN-Bower Corporation ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Licensing
I thought Enterprise licences included device licences, Server didn't ...? Ross Ferris Stamina Software Visage Better by Design! -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users- boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of David Wolverton Sent: Friday, 22 October 2010 2:34 PM To: 'U2 Users List' Subject: Re: [U2] Licensing As I understand, some of it depends on whether you have WorkGroup, Server, or Enterprise. You can have X count of device licenses allowed per IP address, with 10 I think being the maximum (10 is the 'standard count' for WorkGroup level licenses as well I think - it's 'built in' to WorkGroup licenses.) For server you 'choose' you Device License 'count'. And your example is correct - only thing to note is that if one machine has 12 connections and you have '10' as you Device License count, I think you'd end up being dinged 3 seats (1 for the first 10, then 1 for every seat used past 10). That's why if you are 'choosing' your device license count (as you would on the server licensing) you want to choose wisely! DW -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Jeff Marcos Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 10:22 PM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] Licensing Not sure if I read DW's message correctly, but we have device licensing here and it works as follows; 1 device license means from 1 IP/device you can login to a maximum 10 uv sessions (thus only using 1 license) So 10 device licenses (10 individual IP's) equates to maximum number of 100 sessions . And can you mix your licenses on one machine?? Regards, Jeff Marcos -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of David Wolverton Sent: Friday, 22 October 2010 6:38 AM To: 'U2 Users List' Cc: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] Licensing You have to BUY device licensing for this to be true... If you device license 3 devices - and connect 4 sessions from one IP, you will end up using TWO seats - one for the first 3 sessions, and then 1 for every session thereafter. DW -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Bob Rasmussen Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 2:32 PM To: U2 Users List Cc: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] Licensing On Thu, 21 Oct 2010, charles_shaf...@ntn-bower.com wrote: I think there is some of that, but for the most part they are real. Some folks like to keep 4 or 5 sessions open at a time instead of moving around between screens. Note that (unless something changed recently) your licensing actually is based on number of users, not sessions. If you have a terminal emulator that can handle this, properly configured, one user on one machine with 5 open sessions will consume only one license. Our Anzio emulators can do this. Regards, Bob Rasmussen, President, Rasmussen Software, Inc. personal e-mail: r...@anzio.com company e-mail: r...@anzio.com voice: (US) 503-624-0360 (9:00-6:00 Pacific Time) fax: (US) 503-624-0760 web: http://www.anzio.com street address: Rasmussen Software, Inc. 10240 SW Nimbus, Suite L9 Portland, OR 97223 USA ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users The information contained in this email and any attached files are strictly private and confidential. This email should be read by the intended addressee only. If the recipient of this message is not the intended addressee, please call Corporate Express Australia Limited on +61 2 9335 0555 or Corporate Express New Zealand Limited on +64 9 271 7600 and promptly delete this email and any attachments. The intended recipient of this email may only use, reproduce, disclose or distribute the information contained in this email and any attached files with Corporate Express' permission. If you are not the intended addressee, you are strictly prohibited from using, reproducing, disclosing or distributing the information contained in this email and any attached files. Corporate Express advises that this email and any attached files should be scanned to detect viruses. Corporate Express accepts no liability for loss or damage (whether caused by negligence or not) resulting from the use of any attached files. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org
[U2] Contract assignment sought
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Re: [U2] Licensing
On UniVerse (10.2 onwards), the uvregen command will tell you if device licensing is active, and the max connections per device. SH $cd `cat /.uvhome` $uvregen -z UniVerse Ver.: 10.2.4 Serial#..: 99887766 Expiry Date..: 1/1/2500 Max Logins...: 162 Device Licn..: Enabled Conn per Dev.: 10 Authorized...: Yes UV master key: SYSTEMICMEZMERISM Package NameUser Limit Expiry Date -UVNET 0 uv -GCI162 1/1/2500 -UCI162 1/1/2500 -UVCS 162 1/1/2500 -UVADM 162 1/1/2500 -UVODBC 162 1/1/2500 -iPHANTOM 162 1/1/2500 -CONNPL 2 1/1/2500 You might need to be root user to run this command, as it relies on the user's access to the .uvconfig file I nthe UniVerse installation directory. The Device Licn setting indicates that it is active. The Conn per Dev setting indicates how many connections from one device will consume 1 database license. NOTE: Each and every connection above this setting from the same device will consume an additional license. With the above setting, an device that established 12 connections will use 3 database licenses. Gregor -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Ross Ferris Sent: Friday, 22 October 2010 2:39 PM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] Licensing Would depend on the TYPE of licences you have as to wether device licencing would work for you I believe Ross Ferris Stamina Software Visage Better by Design! -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users- boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of charles_shaf...@ntn-bower.com Sent: Friday, 22 October 2010 6:34 AM To: U2 Users List Cc: U2 Users List; u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] Licensing There has been a lot of discussion about that. If there is a way to take advantage of device licenses or connection pooling, we would like to take a look at that. Charles Shaffer Senior Analyst NTN-Bower Corporation George Gallen ggal...@wyanokegroup.com Sent by: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org 10/21/2010 02:28 PM Please respond to U2 Users List To: U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org cc: Subject:Re: [U2] Licensing Shorten the autologout limit? -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users- boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of charles_shaf...@ntn- bower.com Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 3:28 PM To: U2 Users List Cc: U2 Users List; u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] Licensing I think there is some of that, but for the most part they are real. Some folks like to keep 4 or 5 sessions open at a time instead of moving around between screens. Charles Shaffer Senior Analyst NTN-Bower Corporation ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users -- Message protected by DealerGuard: e-mail anti-virus, anti-spam and content filtering. http://www.pentanasolutions.com Click here to report this message as spam: https://login.mailguard.com.au/report/1AWMsrgsiI/5ghGrz6Xtf89aqmIKuCadR/0 This email and any attachments to it are confidential. You must not use, disclose or act on the email if you are not the intended recipient. Liability limited by a scheme approved under Professional Standards Legislation. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Licensing
We converted them. Jerry On 10/21/2010 4:03 PM, charles_shaf...@ntn-bower.com wrote: Could you convert the licenses, or did you have to rebuy them? We changed from standard licensing to device licensing because of the fact that many of our users have multiple sessions open of the same IP. It has helped tremendously. We use to run out of licenses on a regular basis with only 75 users on a 117 license system. Now we have kept the same number of licenses except they are device licenses and we hardly ever run out. The only time that we have is when we had too many objects left as zombies and it was a heavy day for the web. Just as an aside we use Accuterm which has a configuration selection for device licensing. Jerry Banker Charles Shaffer Senior Analyst NTN-Bower Corporation ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
