Re: [U2] UV on Linux question...

2011-02-20 Thread Wols Lists
On 18/02/11 05:09, DavidJMurray (mvdbs.com) wrote:
 
 
 Even though Fedora is sort-of (but not) the 'community' version of Red Hat,
 there are major differences between the two; which are not clearly
 documented when it comes to commercial applications - installing and
 running.
 
 If you have to use U2 on a 'freedom' version of Red Hat, I suggest that you
 have a look at CentOS - centos.org and use that instead of Fedora.
 
 
What's not freedom about Red Hat?

I suspect the more important word is *modern* - for which CentOS will be
no better than Red Hat.

(The only thing that could be unfree about Red Hat is the trademarks,
which Red Hat are obliged by law to enforce if they want to keep them.
And as far as libre software goes, trademarks are an irrelevance.)

Cheers,
Wol
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Re: [U2] Friendfeed and U2 EDA similarities

2011-02-20 Thread Steve Romanow
IIRC, the company that asked for it was losing sales to competitors
for their app based purely on name-brand and needed to store data on
DB2 for a customer.  DB abstraction is a good thing.  Would be cool if
we had a real ORM, but as we have seen, instead of using industry
practices, we have yet another very specialized tool.

I think it works well, but I would be wary of MSV data when expecting
live updates.

On Sat, Feb 19, 2011 at 5:31 PM, DavidJMurray (mvdbs.com)
nab...@mvdbs.com wrote:

 Is anyone using the EDA features of U2?

 I assume that at least one VAR must have wanted the ability to use another
 DBMS besides the U2 one as the amount of effort in implementing EDA is no
 small task.

 I was just interested in the applications and purpose of EDA.

 Cheers,

 djm


 DavidJMurray (mvdbs.com) wrote:


 The method is very, very similar to the U2 EDA.




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Re: [U2] [SPAM?]Re: silly company names

2011-02-20 Thread Steve Romanow
Or the Gnu version, Gawk King.  Had to go there.



On Sat, Feb 19, 2011 at 7:53 PM, Kevin King precisonl...@gmail.com wrote:
 Ah how I miss the caveman days when you could name your kids awk, grep,
 and sed and people wouldn't stare...
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Re: [U2] [SPAM?]Re: silly company names

2011-02-20 Thread Steve Romanow
I am  not in marketing by any means, but isnt the chore for branding
to make something that sticks whether it is a word or not?  Sony is
not a real word, but a great company name.

The source for Ubuntu's name is pretty well known and documented on their site.

On Sun, Feb 20, 2011 at 9:57 AM, Steve Romanow slestak...@gmail.com wrote:
 Or the Gnu version, Gawk King.  Had to go there.



 On Sat, Feb 19, 2011 at 7:53 PM, Kevin King precisonl...@gmail.com wrote:
 Ah how I miss the caveman days when you could name your kids awk, grep,
 and sed and people wouldn't stare...
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Re: [U2] [SPAM?]Re: silly company names

2011-02-20 Thread Steve Romanow
We have a silly marketing ploy in my town that tweaks me every time I
drive by.  A local security company has their sign on the pole upside
down.  Been that way for 3 years now.  I have no idea why they have
not made them flip it over, but it certainly draws the eye.  G.

On Sun, Feb 20, 2011 at 10:00 AM, Steve Romanow slestak...@gmail.com wrote:
 I am  not in marketing by any means, but isnt the chore for branding
 to make something that sticks whether it is a word or not?  Sony is
 not a real word, but a great company name.

 The source for Ubuntu's name is pretty well known and documented on their 
 site.

 On Sun, Feb 20, 2011 at 9:57 AM, Steve Romanow slestak...@gmail.com wrote:
 Or the Gnu version, Gawk King.  Had to go there.



 On Sat, Feb 19, 2011 at 7:53 PM, Kevin King precisonl...@gmail.com wrote:
 Ah how I miss the caveman days when you could name your kids awk, grep,
 and sed and people wouldn't stare...
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Re: [U2] Frustrated with Rocket / Unidata 7.2 ..?

2011-02-20 Thread Steve Romanow
All I can say is ... Ewww.

Packaging stinks everywhere, but that does look tremendously frustrating.

On Sat, Feb 19, 2011 at 8:07 AM, Brian Leach br...@brianleach.co.uk wrote:
 Almost all my frustrations are with Microsoft.

 Over half the development I did last year was simply handling differences
 between Win7x64 and previous versions.. which in turn meant upgrading my
 development platforms (Delphi and .Net) and dealing with THEIR backward
 incompatibilities, spending stupid amounts on new installation software to
 rebuild all my setups and discovering that they were also not backward
 compatible with regard to the plug-in DLLs I needed (and the first one I
 bought ONLY worked on Win7 and not on XP, as I discovered too late), and
 then changing my licensing routines and where I install data .. did you know
 that there is actually now NO place in Windows 7 where you can officially
 install updatable files that can be shared between users without breaking
 UAC?

 All of which has taken months of my time that should have been better spent
 on improving the products, not hitting my head against whatever walls
 Microsoft keeps raising.

 So compared to that, it's nice to have at least one platform (U2) that
 remains relatively stable!

 Rant over ..  for now.


 Brian

 -Original Message-
 From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org
 [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Lettau, Jeff
 Sent: 18 February 2011 18:43
 To: U2 Users List
 Subject: Re: [U2] Frustrated with Rocket / Unidata 7.2

 Yes, it appears to me that the issue I experienced was related to updated
 security in win2008, not in unidata.

 I've also noticed that every upgrade breaks something.  Sometimes you get
 lucky and things run for 10 years, then one day, BAM! A program stops
 working after you upgrade the database.  It's the nature of the job.  Things
 change.  Things break. Things need to be fixed.  That is what testing is
 for.

 Jeffrey Lettau
 ERP Systems Manager
 polkaudio



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Re: [U2] [SPAM?]Re: silly company names

2011-02-20 Thread FFT2001
Short, hard to misspell, unique, and not likely to be confused with  
something gross or stupid.
 
 
In a message dated 2/20/2011 7:00:38 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,  
slestak...@gmail.com writes:

I  am  not in marketing by any means, but isnt the chore for branding
to  make something that sticks whether it is a word or not?  Sony is
not  a real word, but a great company  name.


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Re: [U2] Friendfeed and U2 EDA similarities

2011-02-20 Thread David Jordan
The main benefit for EDA is to be able to tell clients that your application 
runs on Oracle, DB2, SQL Server, etc.  At the end of the day the customer may 
just run U2, but it enables a VAR to meet a criteria.  Tender documents might 
require that products have to run on Oracle that would have denied U2 
applications the opportunity.  Termenos has sold their pick application on 
Oracle.  As a banking system, customers feel more comfortable with Oracle as a 
database, so why loose the sale when you can say I run on Oracle.

The question is, how much of the Database needs to be put on the external 
database to satisfy a customer's expectation.  Do you just transport 
information for enquiry/data warehouse data or do you transfer the whole 
transaction database.

One are to be aware is that most pick applications are pessimistic locking and 
SQL databases prefer optimistic locking for performance.   It would usually 
require U2 to the only application updating the database.

Regards

David Jordan

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