Re: [U2] Does anyone have an MV BASIC cheatsheet?

2011-03-25 Thread Tony Gravagno
 From: Bill Brutzman
 People can write pdf eBooks without losing their homes...

You're missing the math part.  That doesn't just include the
cost of paper and distribution.  It takes time to write material,
time during which an author isn't generating other income.  That
means near-term risk for a possible but unlikely long-term future
return.  During that time, where is the money coming from to pay
the bills?  And if that long-term return doesn't come in, who's
paying the bills or the interest on the loans taken out during
the period of risk?

You can certainly assume that someone qualified to be an author
is also financially capable of taking a month off to take a risk
like this - but that's not a great assumption to make.  A month
you say?  Yeah, at least a couple months really.  It takes a lot
of time to write quality material.

You could assume that an author is gainfully employed and has a
regular check to cover the bills.  Maybe they'll do all of their
writing in their free time on evenings and weekends.  Fair
enough, but most people I know haven't had any free time in
years, especially not to spend on a risky investment.  And
writing a book in such free time is sure to extend the time out
to several months.

You can assume that people who get their hands on a PDF will not
share it, and every copy distributed will yield an equitable
return.  I wouldn't bet on this either.

You can assume that the author can make use of some form of
security to protect the assets, but (without too much more math
here) the cost and aggravation to implement security like this
can be prohibitive unless you have guaranteed volume.
(Aggravation can come from proprietary protection mechanisms,
lost keys, lack of ability to move the media across devices, and
other hassles for both vendor and consumer.)

When faced with the number of problems that need to be solved,
anyone motivated to write educational material can get easily
demotivated.  I'm just expanding on details above but I think
it's reasonable to conclude that anyone who has considered
writing a Pick book in the last 15 years or so has simply decided
that it's too much effort with not enough potential return.

T

 From: Tony Gravagno
 Related, there isn't a critical mass of potential buyers to 
 balance the income potential with the cost of writing and 
 publishing a book.  Without getting into the math of 
 balancing investment vs income and the consumer price for a 
 book, it's just not worth it for someone in the Pick market, 
 nor a publisher, to publish a book for the Pick market 
 itself, or even for the outside world.

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Re: [U2] HMAC SHA256

2011-03-25 Thread Tony Gravagno
 From: Kevin King
 I know you said you didn't want to use PHP but there's 
 a simple function (hash_hmac) in PHP to generate the 
 value; should be simple enough to send values in and 
 get values back out through a OS level PHP call, if UV 
 won't do it natively.

Related, using cURL to do HTTP queries is dirt-simple.  Before
checking this forum I was writing BASIC code to make REST queries
and parse the responses.  That code is cross-MV portable, easy to
debug, and very maintainable.  It only took a few minutes to code
each transaction.  And the underlying utilities are FOSS and very
well supported.  Why not use the tools that are available?

I don't think most people realize how easy it is to invoke
functions exposed by PHP, Java, C#/Mono, or even the OS itself.
These days I wish the DBMS vendors would just work on making the
DBMS better.  Way too many people are hung up on trying to do
everything from inside the box, and the DBMS vendors for some
reason never seem to get that stuff right.

Hey, maybe someone should write a book on that kind of stuff?  ;)

T

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[U2] Masking data in fields

2011-03-25 Thread ggayathri

Hi

There is a requirement to mask some of the fields across all tables in the
database.

Can someone help me on how to go about it, programatically, as I am a novice
to programming?

GG

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Re: [U2] [OT] Site blocked

2011-03-25 Thread Symeon Breen
This is a very common problem 

 

Just use a web proxy like http://hidemyass.com/ or similar

 

 

 

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Subject: Re: [U2] [OT] Site blocked

 

This is how it was explained to me.  We are an advertising company and do
inserts and direct mailings for various stores.  We create for these clients
advertisements for Black Friday.  At some time in the past some of these
Black Friday ads mysteriously appeared on wordpress.com in advance of when
the client wanted them released.  Therefore the clients have 'requested'
that access to that domain (among others) be restricted from within our
network.

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Bummer. I did a blog a couple of years ago on wordpress.com and was
thinking of setting up one for someone else there, also a business
blog. Is there a reason that wordpress.com is considered bad? Are they
opposed to wikipedia and other professional resources that sound like
they are too informal too?  I'm curious why they could not open up
wordpress.com completely.  --dawn

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Re: [U2] HMAC SHA256

2011-03-25 Thread Caminiti, Marc
Gregor

They accept SHA1 as well, so this is great news.

Thanks
marc

Marc Caminiti
IS Manager
Nashbar Direct, Inc
6103 State Route 446
Canfield, OH 44406
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We created an HMAC-SHA1 function in UV basic, using the digest()
function of UV. Very quick and effective.

I don't think UV supports SHA256, though so you might need to look
externally to UV to generate the signature. Perhaps the SSL package
within the underlying OS can provide it for you.

Gregor

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Subject: [U2] HMAC SHA256

We are looking to get onto Amazon and rather than using their php, java
or c# packages, we are looking to use the createRequest and
addRequestParameter functions in Universe.  The one roadblock that I am
running into is that they are requesting requests to be signed using
HMAC SHA256.  Is this something the universe can do, or is there any
package out there that universe could call to calculate the signature?
We run RHEL 5.3, UV 10.2.7



Thanks in Advance

marc





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Re: [U2] HMAC SHA256

2011-03-25 Thread Steve Romanow
+1 to everything Tony just said.

On 3/25/11, Tony Gravagno 3xk547...@sneakemail.com wrote:
 From: Kevin King
 I know you said you didn't want to use PHP but there's
 a simple function (hash_hmac) in PHP to generate the
 value; should be simple enough to send values in and
 get values back out through a OS level PHP call, if UV
 won't do it natively.

 Related, using cURL to do HTTP queries is dirt-simple.  Before
 checking this forum I was writing BASIC code to make REST queries
 and parse the responses.  That code is cross-MV portable, easy to
 debug, and very maintainable.  It only took a few minutes to code
 each transaction.  And the underlying utilities are FOSS and very
 well supported.  Why not use the tools that are available?

 I don't think most people realize how easy it is to invoke
 functions exposed by PHP, Java, C#/Mono, or even the OS itself.
 These days I wish the DBMS vendors would just work on making the
 DBMS better.  Way too many people are hung up on trying to do
 everything from inside the box, and the DBMS vendors for some
 reason never seem to get that stuff right.

 Hey, maybe someone should write a book on that kind of stuff?  ;)

 T

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Re: [U2] Does anyone have an MV BASIC cheatsheet?

2011-03-25 Thread George Gallen
Of course there is also the financial gain from the status of being a published 
author.
It could mean the difference in not getting and getting that higher paying 
position,
   just because you have a published work in the specialty your in.

In that case, the long term financial gains are not from the direct sale of the 
product
   but the fact that you were able to produce that product.

Just a different view of long term gains...Thinking outside the book...mean box.

George

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  From: Bill Brutzman
  People can write pdf eBooks without losing their homes...
 
 You're missing the math part.  That doesn't just include the
 cost of paper and distribution.  It takes time to write material,
 time during which an author isn't generating other income.  That
 means near-term risk for a possible but unlikely long-term future
 return.  During that time, where is the money coming from to pay
 the bills?  And if that long-term return doesn't come in, who's
 paying the bills or the interest on the loans taken out during
 the period of risk?
 
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Re: [U2] Does anyone have an MV BASIC cheatsheet?

2011-03-25 Thread Kevin King
I never made much money from writing and selling the SB+ Solutions book, but
the good will of being the guy who wrote the book has been priceless in
keeping me working since.  Then again, I never set out to write a book.
 Like most things, the book - and nearly everything to follow - has been a
serendipitous accident.  Hoping for another one sometime. :)

-Kevin
http://www.PrecisOnline.com
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Re: [U2] Masking data in fields

2011-03-25 Thread Bill Brutzman
   Who.Me = @logname

Read R.User from F.Users, Who.Me  else  R.User = ''
  My.Dept = R.User2

Begin case
Case My.Dept = 'Acct'  ;  Crt.Str =  Invoice.Dollars.F 'R#11'
Case My.Dept = 'Exec'  ;  Crt.Str = Invoice.Dollars.F 'R#11'
Case 1 ;   Crt.Str = space(11)  
 
End   case

 crt Crt.Str

--Bill

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Subject: [U2] Masking data in fields


Hi

There is a requirement to mask some of the fields across all tables in the 
database.

Can someone help me on how to go about it, programatically, as I am a novice to 
programming?

GG

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Re: [U2] Masking data in fields

2011-03-25 Thread Marc Harbeson
I sure wish UniData had a OnRead trigger  :-)

It sure would be handy to mask out fields at the read operation globally

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   Who.Me = @logname

Read R.User from F.Users, Who.Me  else  R.User = ''
  My.Dept = R.User2

Begin case
Case My.Dept = 'Acct'  ;  Crt.Str =  Invoice.Dollars.F 'R#11'
Case My.Dept = 'Exec'  ;  Crt.Str = Invoice.Dollars.F 'R#11'
Case 1 ;   Crt.Str = space(11)

End   case

 crt Crt.Str

--Bill

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Hi

There is a requirement to mask some of the fields across all tables in the
database.

Can someone help me on how to go about it, programatically, as I am a novice
to programming?

GG

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Re: [U2] Printer Segment Removed?

2011-03-25 Thread Bill Brutzman
In UniVerse 10.3.6 on HP-Ux Itanium v11i r2, I have seen these three words 
appear.  Now I have a user asking about it.

What is the meaning of Printer Segment Removed ?

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Re: [U2] Printer Segment Removed?

2011-03-25 Thread inquieti

Are you getting this a lot?

Bill Brutzman-2 wrote:
 
 In UniVerse 10.3.6 on HP-Ux Itanium v11i r2, I have seen these three words
 appear.  Now I have a user asking about it.
 
 What is the meaning of Printer Segment Removed ?
 
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Re: [U2] HMAC SHA256

2011-03-25 Thread FFT2001
What is the advantage of cURL over wGET for invoking HTTP queries ?
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Re: [U2] Masking data in fields

2011-03-25 Thread FFT2001
In a message dated 


 Hi
 
 There is a requirement to mask some of the fields across all tables in the
 database.
 
 Can someone help me on how to go about it, programatically, as I am a 
 novice
 to programming?
 
 GG
 



Um... can you give some specific clear examples?
Mask SOME of the fields across ALL tables...

To me I wonder if you mean on report output which would possibly be simply 
changing the dictionary entries.
If you mean in programs, why wouldn't that require changing all the 
targeted programs?
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Re: [U2] Does anyone have an MV BASIC cheatsheet?

2011-03-25 Thread FFT2001
In a message dated 3/25/2011 12:00:56 AM Pacific Daylight Time, 
3xk547...@sneakemail.com writes:


 You can assume that people who get their hands on a PDF will not
 share it, and every copy distributed will yield an equitable
 return.  I wouldn't bet on this either.
 

Yes I know this part. It was one of my own qualms when I wrote a work 
recently (HTML not PDF) that was a buyable offer, hidden behind a pay wall.  I 
figure it's quite possible that each buyer may be sharing it with five others, 
but the work is so incredibly specific

At any rate, I've just yesterday passed my 100th sale.

Dubya
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Re: [U2] HMAC SHA256

2011-03-25 Thread Steve Romanow
I think the difference would be curl can handle more protocols, and
also makes doing posts pretty easy.  I have and use both.

The wget --spider option was awesome for testing web image urls on our
product catalog.  It returns a 200ok if the url is good and 404
otherwise, but does not download the image.

I use curl to post some data to a mongodb instance on my lan from
prelude.  I maybe could have used wget, but not sure.

On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 2:20 PM,  fft2...@aol.com wrote:
 What is the advantage of cURL over wGET for invoking HTTP queries ?
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Re: [U2] HMAC SHA256

2011-03-25 Thread George Gallen
I use wget to post both XML and SOAP transactions to api's and capture the XML 
output

Works good. Just have to play with it to get the headers correct.

/usr/bin/wget -nv --post-file $1 -O - --header=Content-Type: text/xml --header
=SOAPAction: \http://sitename.com/page/page/Step_01\; 
http://sitename.com/page/service.asmx

and the $1 (filename that contains my SOAP/XML transaction)




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 Subject: Re: [U2] HMAC SHA256
 
 I think the difference would be curl can handle more protocols, and
 also makes doing posts pretty easy.  I have and use both.
 
 The wget --spider option was awesome for testing web image urls on our
 product catalog.  It returns a 200ok if the url is good and 404
 otherwise, but does not download the image.
 
 I use curl to post some data to a mongodb instance on my lan from
 prelude.  I maybe could have used wget, but not sure.
 
 On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 2:20 PM,  fft2...@aol.com wrote:
  What is the advantage of cURL over wGET for invoking HTTP queries ?
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Re: [U2] Printer Segment Removed?

2011-03-25 Thread Bill Brutzman
Not a lot... We are getting it a little.

--Bill

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Are you getting this a lot?

Bill Brutzman-2 wrote:
 
 In UniVerse 10.3.6 on HP-Ux Itanium v11i r2, I have seen these three 
 words appear.  Now I have a user asking about it.
 
 What is the meaning of Printer Segment Removed ?
 
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Re: [U2] HMAC SHA256

2011-03-25 Thread Steve Romanow
Glad we have 2 good choices.

On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 3:00 PM, George Gallen ggal...@wyanokegroup.com wrote:
 I use wget to post both XML and SOAP transactions to api's and capture the 
 XML output

 Works good. Just have to play with it to get the headers correct.

 /usr/bin/wget -nv --post-file $1 -O - --header=Content-Type: text/xml 
 --header
 =SOAPAction: \http://sitename.com/page/page/Step_01\; 
 http://sitename.com/page/service.asmx

 and the $1 (filename that contains my SOAP/XML transaction)




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 To: U2 Users List
 Subject: Re: [U2] HMAC SHA256

 I think the difference would be curl can handle more protocols, and
 also makes doing posts pretty easy.  I have and use both.

 The wget --spider option was awesome for testing web image urls on our
 product catalog.  It returns a 200ok if the url is good and 404
 otherwise, but does not download the image.

 I use curl to post some data to a mongodb instance on my lan from
 prelude.  I maybe could have used wget, but not sure.

 On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 2:20 PM,  fft2...@aol.com wrote:
  What is the advantage of cURL over wGET for invoking HTTP queries ?
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[U2] Unidata bit depth

2011-03-25 Thread Kevin King
Is there any command in Unidata that will show the bit depth of the Unidata
executable (on AIX, preferably)?

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Re: [U2] HMAC SHA256

2011-03-25 Thread Tony Gravagno
 From: FFT2001
 What is the advantage of cURL over wGET for invoking HTTP
queries ?

http://bit.ly/curl-vs-wget

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Re: [U2] Does anyone have an MV BASIC cheatsheet?

2011-03-25 Thread Tony Gravagno
 From: George Gallen
 Of course there is also the financial gain from the 
 status of being a published author.

George, toss that one by anyone in this market who has published
a book, and see how far it flies.  Jon?  Matt?  Steve?  Harvey?
Malcolm?  (Most people here are saying who?)  These days the
blog is the new book (many of us blog books-worth of material
each year) but that doesn't seem to be the marketing venue that
most people would think either.  Brian could comment on all of
that too.

I'm not trying to proclaim the death of the medium.  I'm just
answering the question why aren't there any new Pick books?.
It seems that authors are not enticed by notoriety or the lure of
future work based on being a published author.  Guaranteed
compensation for work is the real bottom line.

As an aside, I think one can draw an analogy with why user groups
have all but gone away.  All of the work is put on a few board
members who do that work for free and in their free time.
Without some kind of compensation people wear down.  We've seen
this happen thousands of times, in the Pick market and elsewhere.
It also affects most of the FOSS that people claim to love so
much.  How many of you know the names of the people who write
your FOSS?  How many of you send money to the people who write
the FOSS that you rely on every day, or commissioned them to make
a fix or enhancement?  How many of you have found that the author
of your precious FOSS got tired (or got a girlfriend) and decided
not to support their software anymore?  It's all a part of the
same dynamic.

I like to try to solve problems rather than simply pointing out
all the barriers.  To solve this problem of books in the MV
market, years ago I suggested that in the MV community we could
use a wiki as a framework for writing new books, with a Table of
Contents to define the content, and guest authors to contribute
content on every topic and for each MV platform.  The idea didn't
fly back then, but maybe in today's world it would have more
success.  Of course the lack of participation in other community
wikis isn't encouraging for that initiative, but this is a
different kind of project with a different goal, so this could be
different.  Once complete, the book would be sold as hardcopy
with the proceeds used to support the environment, fund code
changes to make the process better, etc.  Maybe I should blog
this? ;)

Tony Gravagno
Nebula Research and Development
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Nebula RD sells mv.NET and other Pick/MultiValue products
worldwide, and provides related development services
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Re: [U2] Unidata bit depth

2011-03-25 Thread Glorfield, Gordon
I was going to hide my ignorance by being quiet but I can't take.  So I'll bite 
(pun intended).  What is bit depth?

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Subject: [U2] Unidata bit depth

Is there any command in Unidata that will show the bit depth of the Unidata
executable (on AIX, preferably)?

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Re: [U2] Unidata bit depth

2011-03-25 Thread Kevin King
You know, like 32-bit vs. 64-bit?  And perhaps it is I who is being
ignorant; if a system is 64-bit AIX does that mean that it's running 64-bit
Unidata?  And does 64-bit Unidata get past the 2G file size limitations of
32-bit?
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Re: [U2] Does anyone have an MV BASIC cheatsheet?

2011-03-25 Thread George Gallen
I don't knowWhen I've gone on interviews in the past, the fact I've had
articles published always seems to go in my favor. Granted, books and articles
are different. Can I say that without that, I wouldn't have gotten the jobs
or at the same salaries...no, but it didn't hurt.

The ultimate goal is to be financially rewarded, whether it's from directly
from the sale of the book, or indirectly through monitary rewards because you
have authored a book. Sometimes, the indirect rewards can far surpass the direct
rewards. 

So, yes, to approach writing a book, not to make direct money from the book
is not that unrealistic.


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 From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-
 boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Tony Gravagno
 Sent: Friday, March 25, 2011 4:14 PM
 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
 Subject: Re: [U2] Does anyone have an MV BASIC cheatsheet?
 
  From: George Gallen
  Of course there is also the financial gain from the
  status of being a published author.
 
 George, toss that one by anyone in this market who has published
 a book, and see how far it flies.  Jon?  Matt?  Steve?  Harvey?
 Malcolm?  (Most people here are saying who?)  These days the
 blog is the new book (many of us blog books-worth of material
 each year) but that doesn't seem to be the marketing venue that
 most people would think either.  Brian could comment on all of
 that too.
 
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Re: [U2] Unidata bit depth

2011-03-25 Thread Glorfield, Gordon
Ah so.  Just because you are running on a 64 bit system you can still be 
running 32 bit Unidata.  And for hashed files both static sized and dynamic, 64 
bit Unidata does not get past the 2G file limit.  For some of the log files 
though it does allow files to grow past the 2G size.

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To: U2 Users List
Subject: Re: [U2] Unidata bit depth

You know, like 32-bit vs. 64-bit?  And perhaps it is I who is being
ignorant; if a system is 64-bit AIX does that mean that it's running 64-bit
Unidata?  And does 64-bit Unidata get past the 2G file size limitations of
32-bit?
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Re: [U2] Unidata bit depth

2011-03-25 Thread Kevin King
So what's the added value of a 64-bit Unidata?
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Re: [U2] Does anyone have an MV BASIC cheatsheet?

2011-03-25 Thread fft2001

 Tony Gravagno 3xk547...@sneakemail.com wrote:

To solve this problem of books in the MV

market, years ago I suggested that in the MV community we could

use a wiki as a framework for writing new books, with a Table of

Contents to define the content, and guest authors to contribute

content on every topic and for each MV platform. 

 

 I like this idea.
What's the first book you want to co-author?
Each chapter could be written by a different person.
Do we want to start with just an overview of Pick and then get more specific in 
later books?
Or do we want to tackle a specific area in the first book?

DubYa


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