[U2] EDI Question...

2013-12-31 Thread George Gallen
The control numbers for the ISA/GS/ST segments, do they need to be unique only 
on a trading partner scale, or on a VAN scale?

So if two trading partners are going through the same VAN, can they both have 
say a ISA control # of 1?

George Gallen
Senior Programmer/Analyst
Accounting/Data Division, EDI Administrator
ggal...@wyanokegroup.com
ph:856.848.9005 Ext 220
The Wyanoke Group
http://www.wyanokegroup.comhttp://www.wyanokegroup.com/

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Re: [U2] EDI Question...

2013-12-31 Thread Jon Card
Yes

Each trading partner should have their own ISA counter. The GS Counter for each 
transaction set and each trading partner should have their own counter. This is 
one way to tell if you are missing a record.


Jon Card
VP Special Projects
Combined Transport, Inc.
541-618-6565
Fax 541-826-9787

www.combinedtransport.com
Division of Combined Transport Logistics Group, Inc


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[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of George Gallen
Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2013 7:40 AM
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Subject: [U2] EDI Question...

The control numbers for the ISA/GS/ST segments, do they need to be unique only 
on a trading partner scale, or on a VAN scale?

So if two trading partners are going through the same VAN, can they both have 
say a ISA control # of 1?

George Gallen
Senior Programmer/Analyst
Accounting/Data Division, EDI Administrator ggal...@wyanokegroup.com
ph:856.848.9005 Ext 220
The Wyanoke Group
http://www.wyanokegroup.comhttp://www.wyanokegroup.com/

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Re: [U2] EDI Question...

2013-12-31 Thread Peter S. Goldberger
ISA (IEA) and GS (GE) control numbers should be consecutive per trading 
partner. The Receiver COMM ID and the control number together are what 
the VAN looks at.



George Gallen wrote:

The control numbers for the ISA/GS/ST segments, do they need to be unique only 
on a trading partner scale, or on a VAN scale?

So if two trading partners are going through the same VAN, can they both have 
say a ISA control # of 1?

George Gallen
Senior Programmer/Analyst
Accounting/Data Division, EDI Administrator
ggal...@wyanokegroup.com
ph:856.848.9005 Ext 220
The Wyanoke Group
http://www.wyanokegroup.comhttp://www.wyanokegroup.com/

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Re: [U2] EDI Question...

2013-12-31 Thread George Gallen
Thanks.

I should be good then. Just making sure it didn't need to be on a VAN level.

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Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2013 10:56 AM
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Subject: Re: [U2] EDI Question...

ISA (IEA) and GS (GE) control numbers should be consecutive per trading 
partner. The Receiver COMM ID and the control number together are what 
the VAN looks at.


George Gallen wrote:
 The control numbers for the ISA/GS/ST segments, do they need to be unique 
 only on a trading partner scale, or on a VAN scale?

 So if two trading partners are going through the same VAN, can they both have 
 say a ISA control # of 1?

 George Gallen
 Senior Programmer/Analyst
 Accounting/Data Division, EDI Administrator
 ggal...@wyanokegroup.com
 ph:856.848.9005 Ext 220
 The Wyanoke Group
 http://www.wyanokegroup.comhttp://www.wyanokegroup.com/

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Re: [U2] EDI Question...

2013-12-31 Thread George Gallen
thanks

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[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Jon Card
Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2013 10:54 AM
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Subject: Re: [U2] EDI Question...

Yes

Each trading partner should have their own ISA counter. The GS Counter for each 
transaction set and each trading partner should have their own counter. This is 
one way to tell if you are missing a record.


Jon Card
VP Special Projects
Combined Transport, Inc.
541-618-6565
Fax 541-826-9787

www.combinedtransport.com
Division of Combined Transport Logistics Group, Inc


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From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org 
[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of George Gallen
Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2013 7:40 AM
To: U2 Users
Subject: [U2] EDI Question...

The control numbers for the ISA/GS/ST segments, do they need to be unique only 
on a trading partner scale, or on a VAN scale?

So if two trading partners are going through the same VAN, can they both have 
say a ISA control # of 1?

George Gallen
Senior Programmer/Analyst
Accounting/Data Division, EDI Administrator ggal...@wyanokegroup.com
ph:856.848.9005 Ext 220
The Wyanoke Group
http://www.wyanokegroup.comhttp://www.wyanokegroup.com/

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Re: [U2] EDI Question...

2013-12-31 Thread Robert Frailey

EDI brings up a whole can of worms for me in the new year.
We currently use softshare as our van, I would really like to do EDI in 
house or find something more affordable.

Does anyone have any suggestions.

Thank You

Robert Frailey
Manager Information Systems
Utah Medical Products Inc.
Utah Medical Products Ltd.
Femcare-Nikomed Ltd.
Femcare Australia
rfrai...@utahmed.com
801-569-4016
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Subject: Re: [U2] EDI Question...


ISA (IEA) and GS (GE) control numbers should be consecutive per trading 
partner. The Receiver COMM ID and the control number together are what the 
VAN looks at.



George Gallen wrote:
The control numbers for the ISA/GS/ST segments, do they need to be unique 
only on a trading partner scale, or on a VAN scale?


So if two trading partners are going through the same VAN, can they both 
have say a ISA control # of 1?


George Gallen
Senior Programmer/Analyst
Accounting/Data Division, EDI Administrator
ggal...@wyanokegroup.com
ph:856.848.9005 Ext 220
The Wyanoke Group
http://www.wyanokegroup.comhttp://www.wyanokegroup.com/

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Re: [U2] EDI Question...

2013-12-31 Thread George Gallen
We are using custom software that is integrated to our current order 
processing. Luckily we are only doing 850/855 and 810 at the moment.
And I'm sure 856 in the future.

Where it's getting difficult (at the expense of expense) - is doing direct ftp 
with partners to bypass the VANs and
The IMO absolutely outrageous transmissions costs.

So we are doing a combination of XML with our VAN, and edi with our direct 
partners - the XML side doesn't need 997's
Whereas the edi side does.

What our system does is converts the XML - edi , then converts the edi to an 
internal multivalued format
Our order entry, and billing is based off that internal format. Then when we 
need to send out a document
The internal format is converted back to either edi or xml and then FTP'd to 
each of the appropriate servers.

It's annoying in every time we gain a new partner, the software needs to be 
tweeked to each of their uniqueness
Within their document requirements.

As standards go, EDI is the most non standardized standard I have seen.

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[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Robert Frailey
Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2013 11:46 AM
To: U2 Users List
Subject: Re: [U2] EDI Question...

EDI brings up a whole can of worms for me in the new year.
We currently use softshare as our van, I would really like to do EDI in 
house or find something more affordable.
Does anyone have any suggestions.

Thank You

 Robert Frailey
Manager Information Systems
Utah Medical Products Inc.
Utah Medical Products Ltd.
Femcare-Nikomed Ltd.
Femcare Australia
 rfrai...@utahmed.com
 801-569-4016
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Re: [U2] EDI Question...

2013-12-31 Thread Robert Frailey

Thank You
Robert
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Subject: Re: [U2] EDI Question...


We are using custom software that is integrated to our current order 
processing. Luckily we are only doing 850/855 and 810 at the moment.

And I'm sure 856 in the future.

Where it's getting difficult (at the expense of expense) - is doing direct 
ftp with partners to bypass the VANs and

The IMO absolutely outrageous transmissions costs.

So we are doing a combination of XML with our VAN, and edi with our direct 
partners - the XML side doesn't need 997's

Whereas the edi side does.

What our system does is converts the XML - edi , then converts the edi to 
an internal multivalued format
Our order entry, and billing is based off that internal format. Then when 
we need to send out a document
The internal format is converted back to either edi or xml and then FTP'd 
to each of the appropriate servers.


It's annoying in every time we gain a new partner, the software needs to 
be tweeked to each of their uniqueness

Within their document requirements.

As standards go, EDI is the most non standardized standard I have seen.

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From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org 
[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Robert Frailey

Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2013 11:46 AM
To: U2 Users List
Subject: Re: [U2] EDI Question...

EDI brings up a whole can of worms for me in the new year.
We currently use softshare as our van, I would really like to do EDI in
house or find something more affordable.
Does anyone have any suggestions.

Thank You

Robert Frailey
Manager Information Systems
Utah Medical Products Inc.
Utah Medical Products Ltd.
Femcare-Nikomed Ltd.
Femcare Australia
rfrai...@utahmed.com
801-569-4016
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