[U2] Job Posting
I was asked to pass this on to the group. As a personal note I will say that is it is a very good company to work for. Work environment is very nice and the leadership in IT are very responsive to ideas. DSig Job Posting Date:November 3, 2008 Job Title: Senior PICK D3 Programmer Department: I.T. Reports To: Kib Reed, Lead Developer Salary: DOE Start Date: ASAP Hours:Full Time Location: Preston WA 2 Full Time Positions available Overview Seeking a senior level programmer / analyst with strong Pick/D3 background. Must work independently and with our existing group of developers. A strong entrepreneurial background is required. Must like working with teams, groups and end users to develop applications solutions for our growing business. Must be able to multi-task and respond to a high level of requests. Job Duties Job Duties will vary in the first year of employment: * Learn about our System Architecture, SDLC Process and File structures * Write documentation on existing programs * Assist in testing new applications that are being developed. * Write ad-hoc reports on an as needed basis. * Communicate and work directly with Quality Assurance staff to document and validate code changes. Qualifications: * Proven skills in database interface and transaction system programming. * Expert knowledge of sound database design/integrity principles and database administration. * Associates Degree in Computer Science, or IS. 4-year Degree is preferred. * Knowledge of Unix Linux environments. * Distribution/Manufacturing/Warehouse Environment experience. * Ability to look at an application and quickly drill down to determine existing functionality andprocess. * Must be a team player. * Must be a good communicator * A high level of energy. * Must have a positive attitude and like working with people/end users. * Must have a minimum of 4 years PICK / D3 Experience. (Other Multi-Value experience considered). * Must have reliable transportation. * Long Term Commitment expected. * Some evening and weekend work required for launches. Interested candidates should submit their resume to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
Re[2]: [U2] Universe, 32bit and file size
Tony, Running D3 on a 64bit version of Linux does not allow reading. This is not because of the OS. The blame is where it belongs .. Does it really matter why i need the data? If we need to bring the data into the system then THAT IS what needs to be done. Of course I could always contract with someone to write a wrapper that could then be called from D3. Or i could just write it in c myself. You have never lost your back side from my posts unless you start selling your services instead of offering information. I know plenty of consultants .. during a small wind they fall out of the trees G If 'tiger logic' has a good solution then i hope to hear it. About a month ago we ran into a similar issue and in fact it caused a core dump .. imagine not protecting your code G. One of the contacts at the company asked about it and even sent the code .. never heard anything back. SO hope you fare better. Thanks Thursday, October 23, 2008, 3:17:13 PM, you wrote: TG As I mentioned in CDP, this has nothing to do with D3 but it's TG always fun to blame D3 for whatever ails ya. David is using the TG %functions from BASIC which are wrappers around raw C functions. TG The limitations of these functions are that of the OS, not the TG DBMS wrappers. A quick Google for fopen 2gb will show tons of TG postings on this topic from non-MV developers. My posting to CDP TG also asked about the main reason for taking this technical TG approach so that someone can provide a better approach to solving TG the problem, but the last time I asked why here I lost a bit of TG my backside. I've also posted a note on David's behalf to the TG TigerLogic D3 Linux forum to ask if the %functions allow for a TG complete passthru to the OS. If so then he may be able to make TG use of 64bit (or Long) functions that are available to C TG developers but not in the current D3 documentation. TG Tony Gravagno TG Nebula Research and Development TG TG@ remove.pleaseNebula-RnD.com From: Martin Phillips I'm not quite sure why I would want to read/write a sequential file over 2Gb but, given that this originated as a D3 comment and has found its way on to the U2 site, let me just add that QM can handle sequential files over 2Gb. The argument used by UV is that because integer values are stored as 32 bit numbers internally, file addresses over 2Gb cause a problem. A 64 bit version of UV still stores integer values as 32 bits because to do otherwise would potentially impact some applications (think about bitwise operations, for example). Also remember that at the operating system level, 64 bit file addressing does not require a 64 bit architecture, just use of long long int variables or, in some cases, a pair of 32 bit variables. TG --- TG u2-users mailing list TG u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org TG To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ TG __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of TG virus signature database 3550 (20081023) __ TG The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. TG http://www.eset.com -- DSig ` David Tod Sigafoos ( O O ) ___oOOo__( )__oOOo___ Academic chairs are many, but wise and noble teachers are few; lecture-rooms are numerous and large, but the number of young people who genuinely thirst after truth and justice is small. -- Albert Einstein. 1879-1955 --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
Re[2]: [U2] Universe, 32bit and file size
Robert, ding ding ding ding ... great answer Robert. Thanks Thursday, October 23, 2008, 11:46:41 AM, you wrote: RP Look at uconfig (but note the ONLY valid on 64-bit capable platforms comment) RP # 64BIT_FILES - This sets the default mode used to RP # create static hashed and dynamic files. RP # A value of 0 results in the creation of 32-bit RP # files. 32-bit files have a maximum file size of RP # 2 gigabytes. A value of 1 results in the creation RP # of 64-bit files (ONLY valid on 64-bit capable platforms). RP # The maximum file size for 64-bit RP # files is system dependent. The default behavior RP # may be overridden by keywords on certain commands. RP 64BIT_FILES 1 -- DSig ` David Tod Sigafoos ( O O ) ___oOOo__( )__oOOo___ A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury. -- Alexander Tyler --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
Re[2]: [U2] Universe, 32bit and file size
Yes .. trying to read in a os level file that is gt 2 gig. and yes %fopen fails Thursday, October 23, 2008, 12:10:56 PM, you wrote: SB I am not sure what you mean when you say ...D3 can only access files 2gig SB and smaller? SB Certainly, there is no 2gb limit on D3 files themselves (I have many SB instances of D3 files with modulos in excess of 1 million). Are you saying SB that you can't read native OS files from inside D3 when those file(s) are SB greater than 2gb? I would not suggest trying to read an entire large file SB into D3 this way. Have you tried the %open, %read functions to read and SB process the file in reasonably sized chunks, say 10K at a time? You can use SB %write to build large files this way as well. -- DSig ` David Tod Sigafoos ( O O ) ___oOOo__( )__oOOo___ When buying selling are controlled by legislation, the first thing to be bought sold are the legislators - P.J. O'Rourke --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
Re[2]: [U2] Universe, 32bit and file size
MP I'm not quite sure why I would want to read/write a sequential file over 2Gb MP but, given that this originated as a D3 comment and has found its way on to MP the U2 site, let me just add that QM can handle sequential files over 2Gb. I guess the reason is that I need the data from the file. It is good to hear that QM can handle a file of this size. MP Also remember that at the operating system level, 64 bit file addressing MP does not require a 64 bit architecture, just use of long long int variables MP or, in some cases, a pair of 32 bit variables. Working from the D3 environment I was just trying to use what tools they have. I am surprised that they don't have and are not talking about a 64bit version but that's cool if that is the direction they are taking. The reason to ask here is that I was wondering if IBM had an alternate path. --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
[U2] Universe, 32bit and file size
We have just run into a problem with D3. It is 32bit and can only access files 2gig and smaller. Now I understand that this is a very large file BUT ... sometimes you have to do what you have to do. In looking at the Universe site it looks as if it too is only 32bit. 1) is there a 64bit version of universe .. am i just missing it? the platform would be be linux 64big 2) if there isn't a 64bit version of universe is it possible for universe to stream through files greater than 64bit? Thanks -- DSig ` David Tod Sigafoos ( O O ) ___oOOo__( )__oOOo___ For the traitor appears no traitor -- he speaks in the accents familiar to his victims and he wears their face and their garments and he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of a city. He infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist -- Marcus Tullius Cicero 743 --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
Re[2]: [U2] access to mvBase VTF files
Tony, Funny thing about consultants .. first thing they want to do is write a program instead of finding a pre-existing solution. TG Dave, anything I suggest is (usually) well considered before I TG hit the reply button. Having done this thing for (I believe) TG almost as long as you have, I'm familiar with most of the TG pre-existing solutions out there. All suggestions and solutions TG I offer are based on the premise that alternatives are deficient, TG time consuming, expensive, or simply non-existent - the nature of TG my business is to come up with (hopefully) better solutions based TG on an understanding of what's already out there. Sure, it was TG good for you to check here before you started writing code. If TG it wasn't implied properly I'll be explicit - I don't believe TG there is a pre-existing solution to read an mvBase VTF into TG Unidata. Therefore I suggested writing (trivial) code for TG synchronous or asynchronous exchanges, or to just get a (free) TG mvBase environment setup so that you can restore the VTF and TG export the data in an easy to migrate format. No biggs .. on re-read it did sound like that was directed to you and it really wasn't. It just surprises me that someone like uv/ud wouldn't have same since they are trying to be replacements/covers for all flavors. And i would think that anyone running from 'Tiger Logic' (just another group of sales people selling something they don't make?) would have found on or created one and make it available. If we decide to go the 'create one' way we will make it available. Thanks again .. Just a cranky old guy DSig -- DSig ` David Tod Sigafoos ( O O ) ___oOOo__( )__oOOo___ Should any political party attempt to abolish social security, unemployment insurance, and eliminate labor laws and farm programs, you would not hear of that party again in our political history. There is a tiny splinter group, of course, that believes you can do these things. Among them are a few Texas oil millionaires, and an occasional politician or business man from other areas. Their number is negligible and they are stupid. --President Dwight D. Eisenhower, 1954 (source: Eisenhower Presidential Papers, Document #1147; November 8, 1954 The Papers of Dwight David Eisenhower, Volume XV - The Presidency: The Middle Way Part VI: Crises Abroad, Party Problems at Home; September 1954 to December 1954,) Chapter 13: A new phase of political experience --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
Re[2]: [U2] access to mvBase VTF files
TG Dave wrote: And i would think that anyone running from 'Tiger Logic' (just another group of sales people selling something they don't make?) TG Tiger Logic is simply a name change from Raining Data (IMO TG only one of two good business decisions they've made in recent TG years). They acquired mvBase from GA about 8 years ago and have TG been (arguably) maintaining it since. To my knowledge TL does TG not pass-through any products for which they don't have/maintain TG source. would have found on or created one and make it available. TG And why would any company write and/or publish a tool that allows TG a backup tape to be read by another DBMS? Again, this is a tool TG for daily local backups. It's not a data transport medium. TG There are other ways to do that. I'ts okay .. you still aren't hearing what i'm typing TG For the cost of our time we'll convert your entire database, any TG platform, any OS, into an ADO.NET dataset or SQL Server database, TG which can then be read by any product that supports modern TG interfaces. Or we'll create interfaces for live access via any TG application that supports a .NET DataSource. Now _that_ is a TG transport medium. But at least i gave you a change to pitch your consultancy again G -- DSig ` David Tod Sigafoos ( O O ) ___oOOo__( )__oOOo___ It is my ambition to say in ten sentences what others say in a whole book. -- Friedrich Nietzsche --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
Re[2]: [U2] access to mvBase VTF files
then there's unidata ... talk about grotesque G You are right .. moving data is moving data. A simple save/restore solves a lot of problems, if there is one. Of course I can follow the norm and just write something and charge the client a lot of something that should be there G Thanks Saturday, September 13, 2008, 6:54:47 PM, you wrote: BH G-man: BH Let me try to answer a couple of your questions... BH Moving data can be a goal. Whether you or I can foresee the need is BH irrelevant. I've moved quite a few accounts from D3 to UV and UD and I BH suspect Dave has an equally justifiable need (not that he should need to BH justify anything). BH There used to be a common backup to an older format that all platforms BH did. I can remember upgrading several different platforms to D3 and BH upgrading several D3 platforms to U2. They all had that familiar BH account-save (a type of thing. BH Many of the vendors had (have) utilities to bring in accounts from other BH systems. Flat-file BS is grotesque! Then there's UniData. :-) BH Bill BH -Original Message- BH From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] BH [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tony G BH Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2008 5:07 PM BH To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org BH Subject: RE: [U2] access to mvBase VTF files From: David Tod Sigafoos My higher goal is to move data from mvBase to uniVerse. Account save / account restore What I want is information on if this can be done simply. I can, as ray suggested, read the tape OR i can simply stream in the file and try to restore on my own. BH [flame jacket in hand] BH Moving data isn't a goal, it's a tactical effort to satisfy some BH more strategic business function. I'm still curious as to why BH you need to move data using platform-specific media. I find that BH the real answer to problems we see presented here is frequently BH that the wrong question is being asked. And while I know there BH can be some resentment when I question why someone is asking for BH a specific solution, that line of inquiry frequently leads to BH saving a lot of time and money in accomplishing the real BH strategic goal. Seriously, I deal with this all the time. BH The only valid case I can think of for your inquiry is that you BH have an old VTF and the source system no longer exists - maybe a BH crash-n-burn where the user wants to move to U2 rather than to BH pay for a new mvBASE license. Fair enough. If that's the case BH then my suggestion is to move the data into a live mvBASE system BH somewhere (which you can get for free from any mvBASE dealer) BH and then to extract it out using more conventional means. BH The tape mechanisms in all of these platforms was never intended BH to be cross-platform. They're intended to backup and restore BH data to a specific platform. And while we expect to be able to BH move data from one shop to another, across operating systems, and BH across DBMS releases, many of us have found there are occasional BH issues here. Extract data from these proprietary formats is a BH sure way to win geek points, but it's a pointless business effort BH considering there are better ways to accomplish the goals. BH So I would back up a moment (pun intended I guess) and ask why BH you're not writing flat files that can be transported and then BH read from the file system? If the systems are local then you can BH simply write to a file in BASIC that's simultaneously accessed by BH Universe. I do that for development all the time with a bunch of BH DBMS's. BH If the mvBASE system is still up and you want to do this on a BH regular basis, I'm guessing the environments are remote and you BH want to duplicate one or more accounts from one platform and just BH read it somewhere else. All the File-Save process does is to BH select the SYSTEM file, loop through all MD files, loop through BH all DICT files, and the copy all the DATA file items in a BH proprietary tape buffer format. I know you could swing that in a BH few minutes, using the same type of recursive loop to create BH directories and write items as files. ( I actually have code BH like that around here somewhere from an effort where I needed to BH extract an entire R83 system over a network via AccuTerm. ) BH Anyway, I hope you accomplish your goals. BH Best, BH T -- DSig ` David Tod Sigafoos ( O O ) ___oOOo__( )__oOOo___ Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity. -- Martin Luther King, Jr. (1929-1968) --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe
Re[2]: [U2] access to mvBase VTF files
Tony, Funny thing about consultants .. first thing they want to do is write a program instead of finding a pre-existing solution. IF there were a way to move data from one environment to another without charging the client more money just to show off my brilliance that would be the best thing for the client (saving money and getting good results) and myself (why re invent the wheel .. i know i am smart i don't need to prove it to myself again). If there is no such thing then the simple answer would be .. nope .. there is no such thing. No one has ever done it .. set up a 300 baud line and just serialize the data from one box to the next G Thanks Saturday, September 13, 2008, 5:06:37 PM, you wrote: From: David Tod Sigafoos My higher goal is to move data from mvBase to uniVerse. Account save / account restore What I want is information on if this can be done simply. I can, as ray suggested, read the tape OR i can simply stream in the file and try to restore on my own. TG [flame jacket in hand] TG Moving data isn't a goal, it's a tactical effort to satisfy some TG more strategic business function. I'm still curious as to why TG you need to move data using platform-specific media. I find that TG the real answer to problems we see presented here is frequently TG that the wrong question is being asked. And while I know there TG can be some resentment when I question why someone is asking for TG a specific solution, that line of inquiry frequently leads to TG saving a lot of time and money in accomplishing the real TG strategic goal. Seriously, I deal with this all the time. TG The only valid case I can think of for your inquiry is that you TG have an old VTF and the source system no longer exists - maybe a TG crash-n-burn where the user wants to move to U2 rather than to TG pay for a new mvBASE license. Fair enough. If that's the case TG then my suggestion is to move the data into a live mvBASE system TG somewhere (which you can get for free from any mvBASE dealer) TG and then to extract it out using more conventional means. TG The tape mechanisms in all of these platforms was never intended TG to be cross-platform. They're intended to backup and restore TG data to a specific platform. And while we expect to be able to TG move data from one shop to another, across operating systems, and TG across DBMS releases, many of us have found there are occasional TG issues here. Extract data from these proprietary formats is a TG sure way to win geek points, but it's a pointless business effort TG considering there are better ways to accomplish the goals. TG So I would back up a moment (pun intended I guess) and ask why TG you're not writing flat files that can be transported and then TG read from the file system? If the systems are local then you can TG simply write to a file in BASIC that's simultaneously accessed by TG Universe. I do that for development all the time with a bunch of TG DBMS's. TG If the mvBASE system is still up and you want to do this on a TG regular basis, I'm guessing the environments are remote and you TG want to duplicate one or more accounts from one platform and just TG read it somewhere else. All the File-Save process does is to TG select the SYSTEM file, loop through all MD files, loop through TG all DICT files, and the copy all the DATA file items in a TG proprietary tape buffer format. I know you could swing that in a TG few minutes, using the same type of recursive loop to create TG directories and write items as files. ( I actually have code TG like that around here somewhere from an effort where I needed to TG extract an entire R83 system over a network via AccuTerm. ) TG Anyway, I hope you accomplish your goals. TG Best, TG T TG Tony Gravagno TG Nebula Research and Development TG TG@ remove.pleaseNebula-RnD.com TG --- TG u2-users mailing list TG u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org TG To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ TG __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of TG virus signature database 3440 (20080913) __ TG The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. TG http://www.eset.com -- DSig ` David Tod Sigafoos ( O O ) ___oOOo__( )__oOOo___ Nearly all men can stand adversity, but if you want to test a man's character, give him power. -- Abraham Lincoln(1809-1865) --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
Re: [U2] I need a correlative, just like the correlative...
Jeff, Why not just call a simple DICT program? Tuesday, September 16, 2008, 10:46:01 AM, you wrote: JS My Pick Pocket Guide fails me. JS I can't use an I descriptor (that would be way too easy) and I need to JS create a correlative that presents the data in a multivalued field as a JS single valued comma delimited list. JS The equivalent of this: JS 0001: I JS 0002: CONVERT(@VM,',',PO.NUMBER) JS 0003: JS 0004: PO NUMBER JS 0005: 30T JS 0006: S JS Thanks -- DSig ` David Tod Sigafoos ( O O ) ___oOOo__( )__oOOo___ I'm frankly sick and tired of the political preachers across this country telling me as a citizen that if I want to be a moral person, I must believe in A, B, C, and D. Just who do they think they are? And from where do they presume to claim the right to dictate their moral beliefs to me? -- Barry Goldwater. --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
Re[2]: [U2] access to mvBase VTF files
Tony, My higher goal is to move data from mvBase to uniVerse. Account save / account restore What I want is information on if this can be done simply. I can, as ray suggested, read the tape OR i can simply stream in the file and try to restore on my own. Thanks Wednesday, September 10, 2008, 11:39:03 PM, you wrote: Can uniVerse read and optionally create a VTF accessible to/from mvBase. The big bit is to read in .. TG David - I can't tell what your higher goal is from your question. TG If you want to exchange data synchronously or asynchronously TG between Universe and mvBASE (or any other MV environment), have a TG look at this blog entry: TG removepleaseNebula-RnD.com/blog/tech/mv/2008/02/cross-mv01.html TG That doesn't provide all the details, but in short, you can TG read/write between any local or remote environments with normal TG BASIC OPEN/READ/WRITE and some networking setup to move the data TG around. TG As usual, if you want a solution, just ask. Do I give away TG complex solutions? No, I write code for a living just like TG anyone else here. So yes, consider this an AD. Sigh. TG Regards, -- DSig ` David Tod Sigafoos ( O O ) ___oOOo__( )__oOOo___ 'Politics is like driving. To go backward, put it in R. To go forward, put it in D' unknown --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
[U2] access to mvBase VTF files
Can uniVerse read and optionally create a VTF accessible to/from mvBase. The big bit is to read in .. Thanks -- DSig ` David Tod Sigafoos ( O O ) ___oOOo__( )__oOOo___ If by Liberal they mean someone who looks ahead and not behind, someone who welcomes new ideas without rigid reactions, someone who cares about the welfare of the people -- their health, their housing, their schools, their jobs, their civil rights, and their civil liberties -- someone who believes we can break through the stalemate and suspicions that grip us in our policies abroad, if that is what they mean by a Liberal, then I'm proud to say I'm a Liberal. - John Fitzgerald Kennedy --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
Re: [U2] ouch
Roger, Nothing to fix this specific problem. For the future, I have implemented triggers on source tables which archive out data and creates a header record for date/time info. This allow reporting on changes and be able to retrieve source that has gone missing. On development tables you do need to clean out the archives as they grow. But comes in handy. Tuesday, July 8, 2008, 12:35:17 PM, you wrote: ron We just had something chew up two source programs today. We ron have restored from yesterday, but that still means 4-5 lost ron hours. And the programmer is one of those young guys that works ron directly to/from the screen rather then pencil scribling like this old timer. ron He still has the latest version of object. Is there a ron quick/free way to look at his object code and remind him of the program structure? -- DSig ` David Tod Sigafoos ( O O ) ___oOOo__( )__oOOo___ ...our behavior matters more than the beliefs that we profess. Elizabeth Deutsch Earle --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
Re[2]: [U2] testing
Bill, g probably depends on what 'lose me' means g Friday, December 28, 2007, 2:32:14 PM, you wrote: BH Doug: BH A direct quote from Wol; My preference is for email, which is why I'm here, not there! (and if this became a forum, you'd probably lose me.) BH My apologies if I've misunderstood his meaning. BH Bill -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of doug chanco Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 2:06 PM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] testing I for one did not notice any if you don't playing our way go home in his email. All he said is that if you prefer using a forum why are you subscribed to email when a forum is available on u2ug (at least that how I read his email) BH [snipped] Bill Haskett wrote: Wol: I just don't get this attitude. Why is it necessary to pick up our toys and go BH home? To say, if you don't do things my way I'm quitting the team? There are too many postings that forswear any solution that doesn't result in a complicated mess of things. -- DSig ` David Tod Sigafoos ( O O ) ___oOOo__( )__oOOo___ Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn't pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same, or one day we will spend our sunset years telling our children and our children's children what it was once like in the United States where men were free. ~ Ronald Reagan ~ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
Re[2]: [U2] testing
MAJ, Of course a simpler method would to be for users to use a email client that can perform threading .. even may web based ones can do that Of course if people don't read first nothing can help DSig Monday, December 24, 2007, 10:28:42 AM, you wrote: MP Perhaps this is why this forum may like a single thread method (like MP Raining Data's D3, Mvbase etc). MP 5 of the responses were identical to the Phantom on Universe question and MP PH answer. MP Had the first reply said PH, the other four would have already seen PH MP and not bothered. This ain't a quiz and with everyone complainig about MP bandwidth, cycles and extraneous email clutter, this would be a great step MP in the reduction of all MP Have a Merry Christmas. MP My 1 cent MP Mark Johnson MP - Original Message - MP From: Perry Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] MP To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org MP Sent: Monday, December 24, 2007 12:56 PM MP Subject: Re: [U2] testing Output is saved to the PH file. Include the SQUAWK keyword in your MP PHANTOM command to get the specific item I'd Perry - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MP [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Mon Dec 24 11:39:00 2007 Subject: RE: [U2] testing A wonderous and happy holidays to all! If anyone happens to be reading this list , I do have one universe phantom question Is there anyway to see what a phantom did? At my last job there was a way to see phantom output (it wrote to a phantom log file, if you started the phantom with logging) Hopefully there is something similar in universe (10.1) Thanks, Dougc -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of gerry-u2ug Sent: Monday, December 24, 2007 10:34 AM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: [U2] testing hohoho --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by SecureMail, and is believed to be clean. --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is MP for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. ZirMed, Inc. has strict policies regarding the content of e-mail communications, specifically Protected Health MP Information, any communications containing such material will be returned to the originating party with such advisement noted. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all MP copies of the original message. --- -- DSig ` David Tod Sigafoos ( O O ) ___oOOo__( )__oOOo___ Nearly all men can stand adversity, but if you want to test a man's character, give him power. -- Abraham Lincoln(1809-1865) --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
Re[2]: [U2] Over-coming EDitor shortcomings
MAJ, Does Accuterm work under WINE (though not sure why anyone would want to use Accuterm G) Monday, October 15, 2007, 6:07:04 AM, you wrote: SNIP MP I don't argue the stability or anything supporting the use of unix as a MP desktop OS. But in this case, it loses if it cannot use Accuterm. -- DSig ` David Tod Sigafoos ( O O ) ___oOOo__( )__oOOo___ Our greatest duty in this life is to help others. And please, if you can't help them, could you at least not hurt them? - H.H. the Dalai Lama --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
Re[2]: [U2] Linux Intercall library
Is there a Intercall library for Linux? If so .. where can i find it If not how is the same functionality achieved? SB Yes SB I seem to remember the Intercall manual tells you how. hmmm .. i don't recall it there but will look again today. thanks --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
[U2] Linux Intercall library
Is there a Intercall library for Linux? If so .. where can i find it If not how is the same functionality achieved? thanks --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
Re: [U2] Unidata logging of BASIC Runtime errors
Bill, of course the flip side is .. why request something that you know you aren't going to get. Ah .. Unidata .. the ugly stepchild G Wednesday, May 10, 2006, 3:07:05 PM, you wrote: BH Dave: BH UniData does not have logging for BASIC runtime errors (IBM got back with me BH on this). There aren't enough requests for this feature to include it in BH UniData. :-( -- DSig ` David Tod Sigafoos ( O O ) ___oOOo__( )__oOOo___ Far better it is to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs even though checkered by failure, than to rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy nor suffer much because they live in the gray twilight that knows neither victory nor defeat. Theodore Roosevelt --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
Re[2]: [U2] Basic statement
Ross, only a victim if you want to be or believe yourself to be 'victim' (i knew the new listserver rules were a conspiracy to get me) rotfl dsig Tuesday, March 21, 2006, 3:34:08 PM, you wrote: RF Another victim of the new list and not doing a reply all :-( RF Ross Ferris RF Stamina Software Visage Better by Design! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:owner-u2- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Barry Rogen Sent: Wednesday, 22 March 2006 4:34 AM To: Stevenson, Charles Cc: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: RE: [U2] Basic statement Buy that man a drink - that is exactly what it was. There was an $Include that contained an equate statement that equated CALL.TRANS.WRITE.SUB TO 'CALL subroutine' Excellent job Charles and much thanks Barry Rogen PNY Technologies, Inc. Senior Programmer/Analyst (973) 515 - 9700 ext 5327 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Far better it is to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs even though checkered by failure, than to rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy nor suffer much because they live in the gray twilight that knows neither victory nor defeat.t. roosevelt -Original Message- From: Stevenson, Charles [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 11:48 AM To: Barry Rogen Subject: RE: [U2] Basic statement ten chances out of nine there is an $INCLUDE that has an EQUATE buried in it: EQUATE CALL.TRANS.WRITE.SUB LIT CALL *TRANS.WRITE.SUB( FILE.VAR, RF ID, REC ) If this is universe, compile with -L option look at the listing. and do a VLIST to see what this actually compiles to. cds -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Barry Rogen Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 7:55 AM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: [U2] Basic statement To all, We have 'new' programs from a package I need now support. There is a Basic statement that I have never seen in my 20+ years. Hopefully, one can shed a little light for me... CALL.TRANS.WRITE.SUB (that's a dot tween CALL and TRANS not a space) I search everywhere for it being a custom entity and found so such clue. This led me to assume that it had to be a Pick Basic command format that I am just unfamiliar with. Any thoughts are, as always, very appreciated. Barry Rogen PNY Technologies, Inc. Senior Programmer/Analyst (973) 515 - 9700 ext 5327 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Far better it is to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs even though checkered by failure, than to rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy nor suffer much because they live in the gray twilight that knows neither victory nor defeat.t. roosevelt NOT INTENDED AS A SUBSTITUTE FOR A WRITING NOTHING IN THIS E-MAIL, IN ANY E-MAIL THREAD OF WHICH IT MAY BE A PART, OR IN ANY ATTACHMENTS THERETO, SHALL CONSTITUTE A BINDING CONTRACT, OR ANY CONTRACTUAL OBLIGATION BY PNY, OR ANY INTENT TO ENTER INTO ANY BINDING OBLIGATIONS, NOTWITHSTANDING ANY ENACTMENT OF THE UNIFORM ELECTRONIC TRANSACTIONS ACT, THE FEDERAL E-SIGN ACT, OR ANY OTHER STATE OR FEDERAL LAW OF SIMILAR SUBSTANCE OR EFFECT. THIS EMAIL MESSAGE, ITS CONTENTS AND ATTACHMENTS ARE NOT INTENDED TO REPRESENT AN OFFER OR ACCEPTANCE OF AN OFFER TO ENTER INTO A CONTRACT. NOTHING IN THIS E-MAIL, IN ANY E-MAIL THREAD OF WHICH IT MAY BE A PART, OR IN ANY ATTACHMENTS THERETO SHALL ALTER THIS DISCLAIMER. This e-mail message from PNY Technologies, Inc. is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ RF --- RF u2-users mailing list RF u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org RF To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ RF __ NOD32 1.1454 (20060321) Information __ RF This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. RF http://www.eset.com -- DSig ` David Tod Sigafoos ( O O ) ___oOOo__( )__oOOo___ a pirate walks into a bar with a steering wheel hanging out of his zipper. The bartender says doesn't that hurt?'arrr.. it's drivin' me nuts!' -Subweird --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
Re[2]: [U2] connection within UniVerse and Oracle
I think i would only use vb.net IF there was something specific that the uv odbc connection does not provide. I have found that for most applications the ODBC connection is not too slow and for most MV guys it is much easier and faster to learn the vb.net. And the price is right .. Tuesday, February 28, 2006, 5:52:52 PM, you wrote: MR Depending on what you are trying to do, ODBC (slow and awkward IMO) or a MR VB/VB.Net program that can easily access both databases would be a MR very easy MR way to go about it. You would need uniobjects or Redback to connect to MR Universe. MR Again, depending on your goals, there are some tools out there like the MR stuff from ON Corp. MR HTH MR Mike R. MR -Original Message- MR From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MR [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MR [EMAIL PROTECTED] MR Sent: Monday, February 27, 2006 11:21 PM MR To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org MR Subject: [U2] connection within UniVerse and Oracle MR I am trying to establish a connection between UniVerse 10.1 ( aix unix ) MR and Oracle (Window 2003), has anyone done this before? I was told to MR either use socket connection or ODBC. It seems that it is not that easy to MR use socket connection talking to Oracle, so I am thinking of using ODBC? MR Any ideas. Thanks. -- DSig ` David Tod Sigafoos ( O O ) ___oOOo__( )__oOOo___ Jazz isn't dead, it just smells funny - Frank Zappa --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
Re: [U2][UV] Universe and SQL Server
Nick, Thursday, February 2, 2006, 1:41:23 PM, you wrote: NC Hello all, NC We are currently looking into ways to share our data between NC universe and SQL Server, and I am trying to get some suggestions NC on the best way to do this. We are currently generating text NC files in UV and ftp'ing those files to a designated location. We NC have a task scheduler that picks up the files when they arrive and NC inserts them into SQL server. I know there are ways to NC communicate directly between SQL server and Universe and I am NC looking for the best way to do this. It doesn't matter if NC Universe reaches out to SQL Server or vice versa. Thanks. I think you will find the BCI client of Universe to be very good at the communication to SqlServer. Last year I worked with a client who needed the same type of communication. We developed a couple of routines they could use to 'read/write' SqlServer with minimal interference with the Universe developers. It turned out faily well .. quick and error free. There really is no need to go to any 'external middleware' answer when all the tools are right there. It lowers maintenance as your developers don't need to learn anything new (although that IS always fun). Give it a try .. ask questions here. -- DSig ` David Tod Sigafoos ( O O ) ___oOOo__( )__oOOo___ 'Politics is like driving. To go backward, put it in R. To go forward, put it in D' unknown --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
Re: [U2] [UD] Best practices
Bill, Friday, January 27, 2006, 12:24:47 PM, you wrote: BH I've been converting dictionaries from a D3 dbms and am wondering what is BH considered best practices in virtual attribute design. BH Does one build standard Direct fields first then use these fields to build BH virtual attributes (I-Descriptors) or should one use the direct field BH references, EXTRACT() or n,n,n, in virtual attributes? BH DEPOSITED BH 001 D The date of the deposit. BH 002 2 BH VOID BH 001 D Is this a voided receipt? BH 002 12 BH DEPDATE BH 001 I The displayed deposit date (if not voided). BH 002 IF VOID = THEN DEPOSITED ELSE *Voided* BH or BH DEPDATE BH 001 I The displayed deposit date (if not voided). BH 002 EXTRACT( @RECORD, 2, 0, 0 ) ; EXTRACT( @RECORD, 12, 0, 0 ) ; BH IF @2 = THEN @1 ELSE *Voided* BH The obvious concern is if a direct field definition is renamed, then all BH references to the old field name need to be changed. I rarely rename a BH field, until I started exposing the data to other data sources and was BH forced to clean up the field names. So, hopefully, this won't be an issue BH in the future. I would go with using the dict names .. that is the beauty of the dictionary . that you don't have to hardcode a position in. And if some idiot deletes 'VOID' then they get what they deserve. It is better documented using name and should be a 'required' practice in a shop. AND if for some reason you want to restructure the table then there are no worries .. always with the right opinion .. your buddy -- DSig ` David Tod Sigafoos ( O O ) ___oOOo__( )__oOOo___ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
Re[2]: [U2] Converting Jbase Code into Universe
Perry, Thursday, January 26, 2006, 7:05:20 AM, you wrote: PT John, PT We converted from jBASE about 6 months ago and had to deal with this. PT Here's a user-defined function which performs just like the jBASE PT GETENV() function. snip thanks .. that's a keeper -- DSig ` David Tod Sigafoos ( O O ) ___oOOo__( )__oOOo___ Cannot open file C:\DOCUMENTS AND SETTINGS\DAVID TOD SIGAFOOS\APPLICATION DATA\BATMAIL\COOKIES.TXT --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
Re[2]: [U2] [OT] Travels with Mark: A Hitchhiker's Guide to the UniVerse, Part 1: Profiling the UniVerse
another alternative is to join the lines and go to the url Wednesday, December 28, 2005, 2:57:09 AM, you wrote: AP snip http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/edu/dm-dw-dm-0512baldridge- i.html?S_TACT=105AGX11S_CMP=FP AP A little tip for posting long URLs. As some mail clients may wrap this AP URL making it unclickable, surrounding the entire hyperlink in and should helplike this: AP http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/edu/dm-dw-dm-0512baldridge-i.html?S_TACT=105AGX11S_CMP=FP AP Another alternative would be use www.notlong.com and convert the long AP URL to a short one such as myshorturl.notlong.com. -- DSig ` David Tod Sigafoos ( O O ) ___oOOo__( )__oOOo___ Should any political party attempt to abolish social security, unemployment insurance, and eliminate labor laws and farm programs, you would not hear of that party again in our political history. There is a tiny splinter group, of course, that believes you can do these things. Among them are a few Texas oil millionaires, and an occasional politician or business man from other areas. Their number is negligible and they are stupid. --President Dwight D. Eisenhower, 1954 (source: Eisenhower Presidential Papers, Document #1147; November 8, 1954 The Papers of Dwight David Eisenhower, Volume XV - The Presidency: The Middle Way Part VI: Crises Abroad, Party Problems at Home; September 1954 to December 1954,) Chapter 13: A new phase of political experience --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
Re[2]: [U2] UD: Named common
Bill, real programmers don't compile in PICK mode .. or use PICK .. they just scale back the expectations G Tuesday, December 27, 2005, 8:19:42 AM, you wrote: BH Of course, programs won't compile in PICK mode if the label exceeds 7 BH characters. :-) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Wolverton Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 4:58 AM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: RE: [U2] UD: Named common I probably should have been more clear -- that's why we rearranged and put our 'most unique' details at the front of the Named Common block -- but ulimately, we truncated all at 7 characters. DW -Original Message- In terms of readability/maintainability, the named common label can be more than 7 characters, however - the first 7 must be unique in your application (or much confusion can reign... :-( ) -- DSig ` David Tod Sigafoos ( O O ) ___oOOo__( )__oOOo___ ...our behavior matters more than the beliefs that we profess. Elizabeth Deutsch Earle --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
Re[2]: [U2] UD: Named common
Keith, Wednesday, December 28, 2005, 7:24:34 AM, you wrote: And if you're using an include to bring in the named common, what's the big deal anyway? Okay, so the named common name can't be larger than 7 characters. Frankly, the 7 is a little weird (3 bits?) but considering we have so few limitations anyway and this one is so easily worked around for most apps, I just don't see anything of real concern. KWR Pooh! A stupid (and antediluvian) restriction is still stupid (and KWR antediluvian) even if it can be worked around. :) bravo .. our customers expect a certain level of professionalism from use .. not bad if we expect the same from out vendors -- DSig ` David Tod Sigafoos ( O O ) ___oOOo__( )__oOOo___ Far better it is to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs even though checkered by failure, than to rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy nor suffer much because they live in the gray twilight that knows neither victory nor defeat. Theodore Roosevelt --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
Re[2]: [U2] UD: Named common
David, you are of course right. I am not sure what Bill is thinking. I am still wondering why we are staying with file names 8.3. Come on folks how many characters do you need. Most MV devs know that vars only need a couple of characters .. I, II, III etc. there is way too much typing going on here Monday, December 26, 2005, 7:21:03 PM, you wrote: DW At this moment and time, that would be true... But how many unique DW combinations of 7 characters can be created? 26 to the 7th power? (if we DW exclude numerics, anyway!) So far, 8 billion+ choices has been enough DW leeway for us to work within - But it is a hard limit -- we just truncated DW our Common Group labels to meet the requirement, and moved the 'unique' DW attributes to the FRONT of the common block labels. DW DW DW -Original Message- DW From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] DW [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill Haskett DW Sent: Monday, December 26, 2005 9:05 PM DW To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org DW Subject: [U2] UD: Named common DW Is it true UniData named common cannot have a label longer than 7 DW characters? Is this a paleozoic joke or is it a PICK basic type thing? DW Onward Upward. :-) DW Thanks. -- DSig ` David Tod Sigafoos ( O O ) ___oOOo__( )__oOOo___ Should any political party attempt to abolish social security, unemployment insurance, and eliminate labor laws and farm programs, you would not hear of that party again in our political history. There is a tiny splinter group, of course, that believes you can do these things. Among them are a few Texas oil millionaires, and an occasional politician or business man from other areas. Their number is negligible and they are stupid. --President Dwight D. Eisenhower, 1954 (source: Eisenhower Presidential Papers, Document #1147; November 8, 1954 The Papers of Dwight David Eisenhower, Volume XV - The Presidency: The Middle Way Part VI: Crises Abroad, Party Problems at Home; September 1954 to December 1954,) Chapter 13: A new phase of political experience --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
Re[2]: [U2] T-DUMP
Bill, did you ever get your question answered ?? if not drop me an email with environment information (i don't have your original email) and will look it up DSig Sunday, December 25, 2005, 7:51:13 PM, you wrote: BH Kate: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kate Stanton Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2005 6:50 PM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] T-DUMP Is there any reason why you can't make a DOS (UV type 19) file out, move it around however you like, and read it back into UD?Kate: BH Some data can be copied this way. However, when record keys are moved to a BH type 19 DOS file they're changed from, for example, 192*16 to 192%A16; which BH is a real pain. Most of our software is upgraded from within the mvDbms BH environment, as we do this simply by building all changes into a single file BH with a key of [DICT*]FileName*ItemID; old standard PICK stuff. BH But without T-DUMP/T-LOADs, this process needs to be reengineered and all BH kinds of issues arise. Most of our customers no longer have either tape BH drives or floppies and do backups to other drives and C/Ds and DVDs. What BH used to be simple is now becoming a convoluted mess. Oh well, that's what BH it's like working with 1980 technology. :-( BH So, now I have to copy some stuff via DOS files and some via wIntegrate. BH Anyway, thanks for the ideas. -- DSig ` David Tod Sigafoos ( O O ) ___oOOo__( )__oOOo___ ...our behavior matters more than the beliefs that we profess. Elizabeth Deutsch Earle --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
Re[2]: [U2] sql server universe {Unclassified}
Mike hmm .. if i had been having a problem this might work. But i find it best to have the dictionaries actually define the data. So if/when we find something like this we simply run a routine against the data which lets us note and redefine as necessary. DSig Tuesday, November 22, 2005, 8:17:44 PM, you wrote: HMM David, -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Tod HMM Sigafoos Sent: Wednesday, 23 November 2005 16:06 To: Daniel Perttula Subject: Re: [U2] sql server universe Daniel, SQL is pretty insistent on data being what it is defined as (a feature for some .. a drawback for others) Your best bet is to make your dictionaries match the data. Not sure I would actually make the fields lenght 999 but instead write a routine to examine the data and let you know the best size to make it. HMM Doesn't HS.SCRUB do this for you? Then you can describe the data HMM correctly in Attribute 10. HMM Or HMM Leave that attribute blank [except for fields which need correct HMM description like DATE, or DECIMAL 12,2] and describe everything else on HMM the SQL side as VARCHAR(255) HMM HTH HMM Mike If 13 char is the longest(in this case) then smudge to 14 if you think the data will change to that. Tuesday, November 22, 2005, 3:40:56 PM, you wrote: DP Hello all - quick question for the SQL gurus out there, we have a DP customer using SQL Server 2000 making queries to a UV 10.1.11 DP server. We've noted that SQL Server errors out if the data in any DP field matches or exceeds the field length specified in the field DP dictionary. For example if we have a DP dictionary: DP WIDGET.PRICE DP 1 A DP 2 100 DP 3 WIDGET PRICE DP 4 DP 5 DP 6 DP 7 MD2 DP 8 DP 9 R DP 10 12 --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
Re: [U2] sql server universe
Daniel, SQL is pretty insistent on data being what it is defined as (a feature for some .. a drawback for others) Your best bet is to make your dictionaries match the data. Not sure I would actually make the fields lenght 999 but instead write a routine to examine the data and let you know the best size to make it. If 13 char is the longest(in this case) then smudge to 14 if you think the data will change to that. Tuesday, November 22, 2005, 3:40:56 PM, you wrote: DP Hello all - quick question for the SQL gurus out there, we have a customer DP using SQL Server 2000 making queries to a UV 10.1.11 server. We've noted DP that SQL Server errors out if the data in any field matches or exceeds the DP field length specified in the field dictionary. For example if we have a DP dictionary: DP WIDGET.PRICE DP 1 A DP 2 100 DP 3 WIDGET PRICE DP 4 DP 5 DP 6 DP 7 MD2 DP 8 DP 9 R DP 10 12 DP and the length of the data is 12 or higher (like if the widget price was DP 9.99), this will cause the SQL Server query to fail with a data DP value overflowed the data type used by the provider error. We are DP considering bumping the field lengths for all of our ODBC field dictionaries DP up to 999 or higher just to avoid these errors. Are there any negatives to DP doing this, specifically could it cause problems for SQL Server? Or is there DP another way to handle this (like a query option or switch or ??) DP Any help or suggestions would be appreciated! --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
Re: [U2] [UV] SQL Server Data Access
Sunny, SM I know this may have discussed before but has anyone developed a VB SM interface between SQL Server and UV. what kind of 'interface' are you looking for? UV has a connection that works well with SqlServer so possibly before we get a lot of code generated you describe better what exactly you are looking to do -- DSig ` David Tod Sigafoos ( O O ) ___oOOo__( )__oOOo___ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
Re: [U2][UV] UPS rate calculator
JH Has anyone directly integrated UPS's online shipping rate calculator JH service and/or address verification with UV? Not the rate calculator but the USPS 'shipping label' process. It was pretty simple once we got on line and talked through our understanding of their documentation G. -- DSig ` David Tod Sigafoos ( O O ) ___oOOo__( )__oOOo___ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
Re[2]: [U2][UV] UPS rate calculator
Peter, thanks .. but as i noted we did the labeling bit (in universe). Worked well .. Thursday, October 27, 2005, 8:19:43 AM, you wrote: PG I actually wrote the entire UPS host manifest system in Unidata. It is PG integrated with our custom programs. We get a UPS label, Summary label, PG tracking details, summary reports and a file to send to UPS for billing. PG The only feature that we don't use is international service codes. We PG create over 1,000 labels a day. It has been working for over 4 years. Let PG me know if you need any assistance. PG At 07:38 AM 10/27/2005 -0700, you wrote: JH Has anyone directly integrated UPS's online shipping rate calculator JH service and/or address verification with UV? Not the rate calculator but the USPS 'shipping label' process. It was pretty simple once we got on line and talked through our understanding of their documentation G. -- DSig ` David Tod Sigafoos ( O O ) ___oOOo__( )__oOOo___ Cannot open file C:\DOCUMENTS AND SETTINGS\DAVID TOD SIGAFOOS\APPLICATION DATA\BATMAIL\COOKIES.TXT --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
Re[2]: [SPAM] RE: [U2] Bad news from Microsoft
and a 256 user pack brings costs to approx $26/connection dsig Monday, October 24, 2005, 10:52:04 AM, you wrote: R George, R If we are looking at lower deploy costs, OpenInsight can deploy R single users for free off of a developers license and still be 100% legal. R - Chuck Legal Barouch R George Smith wrote: Don, I am not only now seeing this as a threat the question is when and if IBM, Raining Data and jBase will help developers meet the threat? Below is a posting on jBase's list server and I might add that jBase per port cost is lower than IBM's (I am not advocating jBase just pointing that he cost is higher). grs --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
Re[2]: [U2] the 4 letter word
Mark, Monday, October 3, 2005, 8:08:26 PM, you wrote: MJ Being one of the most (four letter word) supporters (probably because I MJ understand how to use it properly), notice I didn't bring it up. they always think 'they' know how to use it G -- DSig ` David Tod Sigafoos ( O O ) ___oOOo__( )__oOOo___ When i'm good, i'm good. When i'm bad i'm even better Mae West --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
Re[2]: AW: [U2] Good Programming Practice Question.........
Serguei, Thursday, September 29, 2005, 8:04:07 AM, you wrote: S There is no reason to lock details if the header is locked (you would not S want two users to modify the same invoice). So the correct procedure is not S to lock details at all. '... So the correct procedure ...' G What problem does this cause? IF the locks are placed and removed correctly there is no problem. I would agree that it is easier to simply lock the header but only if you can guarantee that this will IN ALL SITUATIONS handle the entire set. Should be .. could be .. maybe .. Sometimes, as a consultant, I might do this (belt and suspenders) because of the state of the code and programming style that the 'employees' (monkeys) have exibited in the system does not give me any confidence that they will correctly respect lock 'sets' that way. dsig --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
[U2] Lower case in Unidata basic
u2-users, I have looked for archives at u2ug.org but not found them .. (must be blind) I have downloaded pdfs from IBM but i keep getting Universe .. so I will just ask and take the deserved harassment G is there a udt.option that allows you to use lower case in unidata programs? thanks .. and if anyone has a pointer to the unidata pdfs i would like it .. -- DSig David Tod Sigafoos 'Politics is like driving. To go backward, put it in R. To go forward, put it in D' unknown --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
Re: [U2] Lower case in Unidata basic
David, just for the info .. BASIC FILE ITEM -I is how to compile a program containing lower case. Tuesday, September 27, 2005, 12:19:21 PM, you wrote: DTS u2-users, DTS I have looked for archives at u2ug.org but not found them .. (must be DTS blind) DTS I have downloaded pdfs from IBM but i keep getting Universe .. DTS so I will just ask and take the deserved harassment G DTS is there a udt.option that allows you to use lower case in unidata DTS programs? DTS thanks .. and if anyone has a pointer to the unidata pdfs i would like DTS it .. DTS -- DSig ` David Tod Sigafoos ( O O ) ___oOOo__( )__oOOo___ 'Politics is like driving. To go backward, put it in R. To go forward, put it in D' unknown --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
Re[2]: [U2] Lower case in Unidata basic
Clifton, i posted in a different reply .. i found in the new docs (thanks to the links i was given) (at same time as my good buddy Dan Fitzgerald emailed me) BASIC file item -I of course this does you no good with FIB from the editor .. but hey part of a solution is good enough for me G No very sophisticated .. but 'green screen' 'pickies' wouldn't know what to do if they counldn't shout at their monitors all day G Tuesday, September 27, 2005, 3:02:30 PM, you wrote: CO And what is the short answer? Can you or can you not use lower case CO keywords in Unidata BASIC these days? CO Thx. -- DSig ` David Tod Sigafoos ( O O ) ___oOOo__( )__oOOo___ 'Politics is like driving. To go backward, put it in R. To go forward, put it in D' unknown --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
Re[2]: [U2] Good Programming Practice Question.........
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Re[2]: [U2] Good Programming Practice Question.........
Jerry, Tuesday, September 27, 2005, 3:09:02 PM, you wrote: JB Ugh! My personal preference. The only reason I use mixed case is for JB comments. With Universe differentiating between case (OrderRec is not JB orderrec or ORDERREC) you have to remember the way you mixed the case. you should be able to remember what vars you used .. it becomes habit .. just like THIS BECOMES A HABIT. JB Also, it makes it easier to recognize the comment lines in the JB code. a good editor with syntax highlighting makes recongizing comments even easier JB When modifying code if you can't re-write the program always use the same JB standard used in the existing program otherwise it gets confusing to the JB next programmer that picks up the program. true .. when you are making changes .. but new stuff can start a new trend. we used to use punch cards .. but I moved on .. and if I can move on then anybody can G -- DSig ` David Tod Sigafoos ( O O ) ___oOOo__( )__oOOo___ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
Re: [OT]RE: Re[2]: [U2] Good Programming Practice Question.........
Dan, Tuesday, September 27, 2005, 3:39:21 PM, you wrote: true .. when you are making changes .. but new stuff can start a new trend. we used to use punch cards .. but I moved on .. and if I can move on then anybody can G DF You don't use punch cards? How do you make your programs run? i send them to my guru buddies and let them make them run .. -- DSig ` David Tod Sigafoos ( O O ) ___oOOo__( )__oOOo___ ...our behavior matters more than the beliefs that we profess. Elizabeth Deutsch Earle --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
Re[2]: [U2] Lower case in Unidata basic
Laura, what .. Lee is still around .. who would've guessed G Tuesday, September 27, 2005, 5:22:05 PM, you wrote: LH David, and U2-Users: LH There is now a link on the u2ug.org home page to the IBM documentation page. LH It's in the column at the left. In addition, you'll also now find a direct LH link to the searchable archives (BTW, thanks to Lee Leitner and Infocus for LH providing this service). We really want to make the u2ug.org site work for LH the group, so any other ideas, suggestions, or contributions would be great! LH And so that we don't clutter up this group, either post your LH ideas/suggestions in the u2ug Web site design forum, or email me directly. LH Thanks! LH Laura Hirsh LH U2UG Board Member LH -Original Message- LH From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] LH [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Tod Sigafoos LH Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2005 3:19 PM LH To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org LH Subject: [U2] Lower case in Unidata basic LH u2-users, LH I have looked for archives at u2ug.org but not found them .. (must be LH blind) LH I have downloaded pdfs from IBM but i keep getting Universe .. -- DSig ` David Tod Sigafoos ( O O ) ___oOOo__( )__oOOo___ ...our behavior matters more than the beliefs that we profess. Elizabeth Deutsch Earle --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
Re[2]: [U2] Looking for CheckIn CheckOut
Tony, Monday, September 12, 2005, 12:40:36 PM, you wrote: TG Hi Dave. Of course said simple but if it's too simple it may not achieve TG goals your client has in mind. You may want to verify their goals and TG budget, and exactly what simple really means. I deleted several different replies which all caused me to hear what Thumpers father would say .. so let me just say thank you for the reply -- DSig ` David Tod Sigafoos ( O O ) ___oOOo__( )__oOOo___ ...our behavior matters more than the beliefs that we profess. Elizabeth Deutsch Earle --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
[U2] Looking for CheckIn CheckOut
u2-users, my client has asked for a simple CheckIn/CheckOut. The one I have is written specifically for another environment (bad choice but i was young) and so i wanted to check here to see if anyone had one that they would share before I go to the expense of writing one. I know the client would be much happier G TIA -- DSig David Tod Sigafoos Far better it is to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs even though checkered by failure, than to rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy nor suffer much because they live in the gray twilight that knows neither victory nor defeat. Theodore Roosevelt --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
Re[2]: [U2] Looking for CheckIn CheckOut
Allen, Thanks .. i was looking for something more 'U2' directed. thanks again Monday, September 12, 2005, 10:48:38 AM, you wrote: AEE Hi David, AEE Just a quick search for 'version control software' yielded 134,000,000 hits. AEE This one looked interesting'free' version control software, and there's AEE a bunch of them. AEE http://www.thefreecountry.com/programming/versioncontrol.shtml AEE hth, AEE Allen AEE -Original Message- AEE From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] AEE [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of David Tod AEE Sigafoos AEE Sent: Monday, September 12, 2005 08:06 AEE To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org AEE Subject: [U2] Looking for CheckIn CheckOut AEE u2-users, AEE my client has asked for a simple CheckIn/CheckOut. The one I have AEE is written specifically for another environment (bad choice but i AEE was young) and so i wanted to check here to see if anyone had one AEE that they would share before I go to the expense of writing one. I AEE know the client would be much happier G AEE TIA AEE -- AEE DSig AEE David Tod Sigafoos AEE Far better it is to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs even AEE though checkered by failure, than to rank with those poor spirits who AEE neither enjoy nor suffer much because they live in the gray twilight AEE that knows neither victory nor defeat. Theodore Roosevelt AEE --- AEE u2-users mailing list AEE u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org AEE To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ AEE --- AEE u2-users mailing list AEE u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org AEE To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ AEE __ NOD32 1.1213 (20050909) Information __ AEE This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. AEE http://www.eset.com -- DSig ` David Tod Sigafoos ( O O ) ___oOOo__( )__oOOo___ Far better it is to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs even though checkered by failure, than to rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy nor suffer much because they live in the gray twilight that knows neither victory nor defeat. Theodore Roosevelt --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
Re: FW: Re[2]: [U2] Connection Problems with Ud6 and UV10
Anthony, thanks for the reply .. Tuesday, August 16, 2005, 2:58:24 AM, you wrote: AY I'm following this well out of date so somebody may have given you the AY answer ... nope .. no one has won the silver ring yet g AY Does the path to where the admin programs are stored contain a space? AY For example, in Program Files? If so, REINSTALL SOMEWHERE ELSE. AY I made the mistake of changing the default ( C:\IBM\...) and AY admin, etc, AY was promptly screwed up. Everything appeared to work, but it just AY didn't AY :-( g I think i ran into this a long time ago when I first started to play with Universe at home. Sadly I am just using the install defaults. But you were the first to suggest this .. thanks AY -Original Message- AY From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] AY [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Tod AY Sigafoos AY Sent: 11 August 2005 00:02 AY To: Ron White AY Subject: Re[2]: [U2] Connection Problems with Ud6 and UV10 AY Ron, AY Wednesday, August 10, 2005, 1:01:03 PM, you wrote: RW Launch UniAdmin and select Telnet under the Network services RW header. When RW the screen appears, the first thing on the screen is the desired RW telnet RW port number. RW After entering your port number, click the stop button to stop the AY UV RW services RW and then click start to restart them. If you are accessing UV with AY a RW terminal RW emulator you will have to change your telnet port setting in the RW emulator as well. AY I start UniAdmin and Local Host shows on the left. AY The menu items are File, View, COnnect, Admin, Window, Logging and AY Help AY Under Admin is Network Services. Problem is that ALL items under AY Admin are grayed out. AY I find that if i use uniadmin on another server those items don't AY become available until a connection has been made. AY So is this one of those chicken and egg things G -- DSig ` David Tod Sigafoos ( O O ) ___oOOo__( )__oOOo___ 'Politics is like driving. To go backward, put it in R. To go forward, put it in D' unknown --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
Re[8]: [U2] Connection Problems with Ud6 and UV10
Mike, thanks .. this is on my list to work on this week. The issue wasn't resolved but hope putting all the suggestions together will get something working. Thanks Monday, August 15, 2005, 12:19:04 PM, you wrote: MD David, MD I have been on vacation so I am not sure if you have resolved MD this issue. MD Below is a little snippet from one of our internal docs concerning RPC MD issues and UniAdmin. Also, we have found the Windows firewall MD can cause MD problems. MD When trying to log into UniAdmin for UniVerse 10.1 on a Windows MD 2003 server. MD This resulted in the ODBC connection getting an invalid user id or MD password error when trying to connect MD If RRAS is running it can automatically turn on the firewall and MD block the MD port that the RPC service listens on, which is port 31438. MD UniVerse RPC Service is not tied in with Windows RPC service. MD So, UniVerse RPC can fail and Windows RPC will still be MD running. MD If Windows 2003 is running IIS v6.0 it can interfere with the MD RPC port. To correct it, open IIS and right click on Web MD Sites. Click on the Service tab and check the box that says MD Run WWW service in IIS 5.0 isolation mode. Then reboot the MD server. -- DSig ` David Tod Sigafoos ( O O ) ___oOOo__( )__oOOo___ ...our behavior matters more than the beliefs that we profess. Elizabeth Deutsch Earle --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
Re[6]: [U2] Connection Problems with Ud6
colin, Friday, August 12, 2005, 5:43:48 AM, you wrote: catc No arguments there. I just thought (like Robert's reply) that you need catc to see where the problem actually lies. If it's something with the catc windows firewall preventing the connection or it's XP media catc edition not catc letting the DB server work. catc Can you load another O/S on the laptop (maybe inside of VMWare)? HP is catc usually pretty good at having recovery CD's so you can get the laptop catc back to 'how you got it.' snip I will probably try that when I get back to the office next week. It is just such a PITA sigh .. but then if it was all simple we would be out of jobs G thanks -- DSig ` David Tod Sigafoos ( O O ) ___oOOo__( )__oOOo___ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
Re[2]: [U2] Connection Problems with Ud6 and UV10
Robert, Friday, August 12, 2005, 1:07:04 AM, you wrote: RP What problem are we trying to fix at the moment? snip This has become 'a' problem. So many tries .. no hits and who knows who is on base So, when i get back to the office on monday I will re-install windows on the laptop and attempt installation with fresh install. As for the problems (and they persist) 1) I can not connect through the Intercall api as it returns with RPC not running. 2) I can not connect through telnet (even after changing ports) The Telnet screen comes up and blinking cursor BUT if I hit return the cursor drops a line and blinks there. 3) UniAdmin would not connect. RPC problem again 4) I could connect through 'Dynamic Connect' i think it was called. It went to the DEMO system so I know the DB is working fine So there you are .. the basic symptoms .. original and persistent. Thanks -- DSig ` David Tod Sigafoos ( O O ) ___oOOo__( )__oOOo___ ...our behavior matters more than the beliefs that we profess. Elizabeth Deutsch Earle --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
Re[4]: [U2] Connection Problems with Ud6 and UV10
Bill_H, Wednesday, August 10, 2005, 4:57:21 PM, you wrote: B Dave: B I'm just guessing here but I wonder if there is a registry setting B inke in HLM Software Informix (or is it IBM) Universe (or UniData) that sets B the port for telnet. I have modified the setting and I know the setting took root as trying to start the link got message back that it couldn't connect But when telnet 127.0.0.1 7005 it reacts the same. This is just so weird .. it only happens on U2 databases. I have SqlServer, MySql and others and they work just fine. Guess i will just need to move to another environment G -- DSig ` David Tod Sigafoos ( O O ) ___oOOo__( )__oOOo___ Our greatest duty in this life is to help others. And please, if you can't help them, could you at least not hurt them? - H.H. the Dalai Lama --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
Re[2]: [U2] Connection Problems with Ud6 and UV10 - unmentioned
Chuck, Thanks for the try .. I have removed UV and UD, then installed UD only. Still no connection. I have turned off as many services as I could and that didn't help. I can only conclude that there is SOMETHING running on this box that keeps UV RPC from working. DSig Wednesday, August 10, 2005, 10:15:44 PM, you wrote: KA Sig, KA Have you checked for IP port conflicts? I had a similar KA problem when I had UniVision and UniVerse on the same box. I movedsome IP Port assignments and voila! KA - Chuck KA -- Original Message - KA Subject: Re: [U2] Connection Problems with Ud6 and UV10 - unmentioned KA info KA From: David Tod Sigafoos [EMAIL PROTECTED] KA From UniAdmin and Intercall client i get 'No RPC Connection Active' KA (or server from Intercall). This means that the Intercall client has KA found the server (127.0.0.1) but that it did not find the RPC service KA running .. KA If i try the telnet i just get the blinking cursor. If i hit enter it KA moves down a line but blinks .. -- DSig ` David Tod Sigafoos ( O O ) ___oOOo__( )__oOOo___ When i'm good, i'm good. When i'm bad i'm even better Mae West --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
Re[2]: [U2] Connection Problems with Ud6 and UV10
Ron, sorry to hear it is empty G ms telnet is disabled Thursday, August 11, 2005, 12:42:03 PM, you wrote: RW David Tod Sigafoos wrote: Bill_H, Wednesday, August 10, 2005, 4:57:21 PM, you wrote: B Dave: B I'm just guessing here but I wonder if there is a registry setting B inke in HLM Software Informix (or is it IBM) Universe (or UniData) that sets B the port for telnet. I have modified the setting and I know the setting took root as trying to start the link got message back that it couldn't connect But when telnet 127.0.0.1 7005 it reacts the same. This is just so weird .. it only happens on U2 databases. I have SqlServer, MySql and others and they work just fine. Guess i will just need to move to another environment G RW On my development machine I have the M$ telnet service disabled. If RW yours is RW still running it will intercept your telnet request before UV RW sees it. RW That is the last RW idea in my head. The (head) room is now completely empty. :-) RW Ron White RW --- RW u2-users mailing list RW u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org RW To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ RW __ NOD32 1.1192 (20050811) Information __ RW This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. RW http://www.eset.com -- DSig ` David Tod Sigafoos ( O O ) ___oOOo__( )__oOOo___ Our greatest duty in this life is to help others. And please, if you can't help them, could you at least not hurt them? - H.H. the Dalai Lama --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
Re[2]: [U2] Connection Problems with Ud6 and UV10
Ron, Thursday, August 11, 2005, 12:37:27 PM, you wrote: RW I don't have any other advise. I just tried the command telnet RW 127.0.0.1 7005 on my RW development machine and the login prompt appeared immediately. I RW don't RW have a copy RW of the personal edition to test with. I don't know either. I know that it works well on my desktop back in Oregon .. maybe it is the california weather .. The desktop I have it running on is even XP home .. G .. There just has to be something with HP laptops (2 now) or the XP media edition .. THanks for trying -- DSig ` David Tod Sigafoos ( O O ) ___oOOo__( )__oOOo___ Our greatest duty in this life is to help others. And please, if you can't help them, could you at least not hurt them? - H.H. the Dalai Lama --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
Re[4]: [U2] Connection Problems with Ud6 and UV10 - unmentioned
colin, Thursday, August 11, 2005, 1:01:24 PM, you wrote: catc With just UniData installed can you use UDT to connect - that catc will take catc telnet out of the equation. true .. but the problem is that connectivity with u6 other requires telnet and even more importantly RPC .. Neither of which 'work' though the services say they are running -- DSig ` David Tod Sigafoos ( O O ) ___oOOo__( )__oOOo___ 'Politics is like driving. To go backward, put it in R. To go forward, put it in D' unknown --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
Re[6]: [U2] Connection Problems with Ud6 and UV10
Dan, .. i have even removed my laptop from the network .. rebooted .. no network .. still no joy in mudville Dsig Thursday, August 11, 2005, 1:02:10 PM, you wrote: DF Shot in the dark... is there a nat (Network Address Translator) DF on this DF network? DF Our greatest duty in this life is to help others. And please, if DF you can't DF help them, could you at least not hurt them? - H.H. the Dalai Lama DF When buying selling are controlled by legislation, the first DF thing to be DF bought sold are the legislators - P.J. O'Rourke DF Dan Fitzgerald From: David Tod Sigafoos [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To: Bill_H u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re[4]: [U2] Connection Problems with Ud6 and UV10 Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 11:54:56 -0700 Bill_H, Wednesday, August 10, 2005, 4:57:21 PM, you wrote: B Dave: B I'm just guessing here but I wonder if there is a registry setting B inke in HLM Software Informix (or is it IBM) Universe (or UniData) that sets B the port for telnet. I have modified the setting and I know the setting took root as trying to start the link got message back that it couldn't connect But when telnet 127.0.0.1 7005 it reacts the same. This is just so weird .. it only happens on U2 databases. I have SqlServer, MySql and others and they work just fine. Guess i will just need to move to another environment G -- DSig ` David Tod Sigafoos ( O O ) ___oOOo__( )__oOOo___ Our greatest duty in this life is to help others. And please, if you can't help them, could you at least not hurt them? - H.H. the Dalai Lama --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ DF --- DF u2-users mailing list DF u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org DF To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ DF __ NOD32 1.1192 (20050811) Information __ DF This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. DF http://www.eset.com -- DSig ` David Tod Sigafoos ( O O ) ___oOOo__( )__oOOo___ When i'm good, i'm good. When i'm bad i'm even better Mae West --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
Re[4]: [U2] Connection Problems with Ud6 and UV10 - unmentioned
Ken, Thursday, August 11, 2005, 4:56:18 PM, you wrote: I have turned off as many services as I could and that didn't help. I can only conclude that there is SOMETHING running on this box that keeps UV RPC from working. KW Windows Firewall? Yes .. BUT if you bring up the security screen it says Firewall on. Drill down to the setting and it says it is off .. I am not getting the ' your computer is not protected ' from windows with makes me think SOMETHING is still working to block actual work .. -- DSig ` David Tod Sigafoos ( O O ) ___oOOo__( )__oOOo___ Should any political party attempt to abolish social security, unemployment insurance, and eliminate labor laws and farm programs, you would not hear of that party again in our political history. There is a tiny splinter group, of course, that believes you can do these things. Among them are a few Texas oil millionaires, and an occasional politician or business man from other areas. Their number is negligible and they are stupid. --President Dwight D. Eisenhower, 1954 (source: Eisenhower Presidential Papers, Document #1147; November 8, 1954 The Papers of Dwight David Eisenhower, Volume XV - The Presidency: The Middle Way Part VI: Crises Abroad, Party Problems at Home; September 1954 to December 1954,) Chapter 13: A new phase of political experience --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
[U2] Connection Problems with Ud6 and UV10
I posted this questions last year, got some responses and tried everything but without resolve. I got a new laptop in February of this year and am not experiencing the same problems. Below is a 'basic' system information Problem. After installing (without any problems) either Universe 10 PE or Unidata 6 PE I am unable to connect to the serves locally. I can connect to clients UD and UV servers but there is no TELNET or InterCall access available on localhost. This IS (for me) a big problem, and I hope that there is some brainiac (http://theages.superman.ws/Encyclopaedia/brainiac.php) out there who can help me figure this out. I can only GUESS that there is a windows service running that in clobberin' (The Thing's favorite phrase is It's Clobberin time) Are there any known tools which would help find out what might be clobberin' telnet? System Basics (some extras in case it helps): HP Pavilion zd8065 Windows XP Professional 5.1 build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current date/time: 8/10/2005 8:34 AM Total physical memory = 522732 Kbytes Physical memory available = 101352 Kbytes Total virtual memory = 2097024 Kbytes Virtual memory available = 2026904 Kbytes Country code: 1 Language: English Code-page: 1252 Internet Explorer C:\Program Files\Internet Explorer\IEXPLORE.EXE ver: 6.0.2900.2180 8/9/2004 7:00 PM ver in registry: 6.0.2900.2180 Microsoft Installer C:\WINDOWS\system32\msiexec.exe ver: 3.1.4000.1823 3/21/2005 3:00 PM Folder Options: Using System Settings Classic Style: 0 DblClk in Web: 1 IconUnderline: 3 Browser ULine: yes RichEdit 1.0ver: 5.1.2600.0 8/9/2004 7:00 PM RichEdit 2.0ver: 5.30.23.1221 8/9/2004 7:00 PM System desktop theme installer: Installer name:rundll32.exe Installer version: 5.1.2600.2180 Theme base folder: C:\WINDOWS\system32\Themes\ Default mail client location info... Mail client name from 'HKLM\SOFTWARE\Clients\Mail' is: 'The Bat!' Default mail client specifies MAPI DLL as: C:\Program Files\The Bat!\tbmapi.dll ... and this file exists. shell32.dll ver: 6.0.2900.2620 2/28/2005 4:11 PM comdlg32.dllver: 6.0.2900.2180 8/9/2004 7:00 PM comctl32.dllver: 6.0.2900.2180 8/9/2004 7:00 PM Thanks -- DSig David Tod Sigafoos 'Politics is like driving. To go backward, put it in R. To go forward, put it in D' unknown --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
Re: [U2] Connection Problems with Ud6 and UV10 - unmentioned info
In my original post I forgot to mention that I have tried this with all spyware protection, virus protection firewalls etc turned off. I have even tried this after rebooting into safe mode (and making sure the services were running) I installed this as the administrator and as a user that is administrator privileges. From UniAdmin and Intercall client i get 'No RPC Connection Active' (or server from Intercall). This means that the Intercall client has found the server (127.0.0.1) but that it did not find the RPC service running .. If i try the telnet i just get the blinking cursor. If i hit enter it moves down a line but blinks .. Dynamic Connect gives me [Connecting to 127.0.0.1...] then just hangs XMLDB simply hangs I have check that the Uni services are running (the following from the services list .. all started) Uni RPC Service Unidata Database Service 6.1 Undiata ObjectCall Server 6.1 Unidata Telnet Service 6.1 Unidata Terminal Server 6.1 thanks .. Wednesday, August 10, 2005, 8:44:15 AM, you wrote: snip -- DSig ` David Tod Sigafoos ( O O ) ___oOOo__( )__oOOo___ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
Re[2]: [U2] Connection Problems with Ud6 and UV10
Ron, Wednesday, August 10, 2005, 11:15:49 AM, you wrote: RW David Tod Sigafoos wrote: snipped for brevity Problem. After installing (without any problems) either Universe 10 PE or Unidata 6 PE I am unable to connect to the serves locally. I can connect to clients UD and UV servers but there is no TELNET or InterCall access available on localhost. /snip RW Since I see no other responses I will give this a go. I run UV-Nt and RW have for years. I discovered when I first installed UV that the UV RW telnet server conflicted with the Windows telnet server running RW on port RW 23. I changed my UV telnet to use port 7005 and my problem went RW away. Any short instructions on how to change the UV telnet port? Thanks -- DSig ` David Tod Sigafoos ( O O ) ___oOOo__( )__oOOo___ When buying selling are controlled by legislation, the first thing to be bought sold are the legislators - P.J. O'Rourke --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
Re: [U2] Can we use WIN.PCWRITE to copy binary files??
Frank, Wednesday, August 10, 2005, 11:55:37 AM, you wrote: BF To All: BF We are trying to copy files from our AIX system using the Unidata BF WIN.PCWRITE script. The script comes with Wintegrate 4.2.1. BF Problem we BF are having is that we cannot copy binary files from the AIX side BF to the BF PC using this script. if you have it available .. it would be much easier to FTP -- DSig ` David Tod Sigafoos ( O O ) ___oOOo__( )__oOOo___ When buying selling are controlled by legislation, the first thing to be bought sold are the legislators - P.J. O'Rourke --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
Re[2]: [U2] Can we use WIN.PCWRITE to copy binary files??
Frank, Wednesday, August 10, 2005, 12:36:00 PM, you wrote: BF Hi David, BF Sorry for the post to the listserve. Wouldn't ftp involve BF passwording?? BF I am trying to get around this! it does depend on your setup. for example on the SunOS box i am currently working on, since i have rights to the data already i have FTP access. Since I am not the administrator I don't know how they set that up but I am *sure* that they don't set up the FTP for each user. have you tried to FTP to the box? -- DSig ` David Tod Sigafoos ( O O ) ___oOOo__( )__oOOo___ When i'm good, i'm good. When i'm bad i'm even better Mae West --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
Re[2]: [U2] Connection Problems with Ud6 and UV10
Bill_H, Wednesday, August 10, 2005, 3:47:26 PM, you wrote: B Dave: B I'm thinking of two choices: 1) shutdown the Windows telnet B service (which I B always do anyway), it is set to disabled B or 2) change the port# for the UV telnet B services. I B believe you can do this via UniAdmin; at least that's how I did it B so UV and B D3 would both run on the same machine. :-) You are the second one to suggest this .. but as mentioned in another post .. uniAdmin does not enable the items under admin until you can access the server G I think it is not just a telnet issue but also a RPc (does rpc use telnet?) -- DSig ` David Tod Sigafoos ( O O ) ___oOOo__( )__oOOo___ ...our behavior matters more than the beliefs that we profess. Elizabeth Deutsch Earle --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
Re[2]: [U2] Connection Problems with Ud6 and UV10
Ron, Wednesday, August 10, 2005, 1:01:03 PM, you wrote: RW Launch UniAdmin and select Telnet under the Network services RW header. When RW the screen appears, the first thing on the screen is the desired RW telnet RW port number. RW After entering your port number, click the stop button to stop the UV RW services RW and then click start to restart them. If you are accessing UV with a RW terminal RW emulator you will have to change your telnet port setting in the RW emulator as well. I start UniAdmin and Local Host shows on the left. The menu items are File, View, COnnect, Admin, Window, Logging and Help Under Admin is Network Services. Problem is that ALL items under Admin are grayed out. I find that if i use uniadmin on another server those items don't become available until a connection has been made. So is this one of those chicken and egg things G -- DSig ` David Tod Sigafoos ( O O ) ___oOOo__( )__oOOo___ Should any political party attempt to abolish social security, unemployment insurance, and eliminate labor laws and farm programs, you would not hear of that party again in our political history. There is a tiny splinter group, of course, that believes you can do these things. Among them are a few Texas oil millionaires, and an occasional politician or business man from other areas. Their number is negligible and they are stupid. --President Dwight D. Eisenhower, 1954 (source: Eisenhower Presidential Papers, Document #1147; November 8, 1954 The Papers of Dwight David Eisenhower, Volume XV - The Presidency: The Middle Way Part VI: Crises Abroad, Party Problems at Home; September 1954 to December 1954,) Chapter 13: A new phase of political experience --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
Re[2]: [U2] Connection Problems with Ud6 and UV10
Craig, Wednesday, August 10, 2005, 4:35:11 PM, you wrote: CB David, CB are you connecting to localhost or 127.0.0.1. I have tried both CB I have had problems in the past where a DNS server returned a CB value for localhost which was not 127.0.0.1. there should not be a 'dns' server involved .. in fact I have just disconnected from the network and tried .. still no good. (thought windows probably has a 'mini' dns under the covers) CB It could explain why you had problems on both machines. man .. don't i wish THe problem with this line of thinking is that MySql, which is another database I use, and apache etc use local host and resolve to 127.0.0.1. I really wonder about some contention with telnet and/or rpc CB You might also have a look at your hosts file in \WINDOWS\SYSTEM32 CB and see where it maps localhost to. hosts file found CB What do you see if you: CB nslookup localhost Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600] (C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp. C:\Documents and Settings\David Tod Sigafoosnslookup localhost *** Default servers are not available Server: UnKnown Address: 127.0.0.1 *** UnKnown can't find localhost: No response from server C:\Documents and Settings\David Tod Sigafoos CB and CB ping localhost ping is cool .. Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600] (C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp. C:\Documents and Settings\David Tod Sigafoosping localhost Pinging DSigsHpLaptop [127.0.0.1] with 32 bytes of data: Reply from 127.0.0.1: bytes=32 time1ms TTL=128 Reply from 127.0.0.1: bytes=32 time1ms TTL=128 Reply from 127.0.0.1: bytes=32 time1ms TTL=128 Reply from 127.0.0.1: bytes=32 time1ms TTL=128 Ping statistics for 127.0.0.1: Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss), Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds: Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 0ms, Average = 0ms C:\Documents and Settings\David Tod Sigafoos -- DSig ` David Tod Sigafoos ( O O ) ___oOOo__( )__oOOo___ Our greatest duty in this life is to help others. And please, if you can't help them, could you at least not hurt them? - H.H. the Dalai Lama --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
Re[4]: [U2] Connection Problems with Ud6 and UV10
Bill_H, Wednesday, August 10, 2005, 4:57:21 PM, you wrote: B Dave: B I'm just guessing here but I wonder if there is a registry setting B inke in HLM Software Informix (or is it IBM) Universe (or UniData) that sets B the port for telnet. u ... regedit ... put on beanie (looking for cecil) IBM/UNIDATA/G.1/UDTELNET/TELNET_SOCKET value = 0X0017(23) oh my .. this is going to take a second .. will let you now how it works ... -- DSig ` David Tod Sigafoos ( O O ) ___oOOo__( )__oOOo___ Our greatest duty in this life is to help others. And please, if you can't help them, could you at least not hurt them? - H.H. the Dalai Lama --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
[U2] Intercall - ic_opensession
The intercall definition ic_opensession is defined for opening a session for a connection to U2 .. there is also a ic_unidata_session and a ic_universe_session. The only difference I can see between the 3 is that ic_unidata_session has a 7th parameter 'Unidata_Server'. Otherwise they all appear to work the same. As we are moving a process from Universe to Unidata i wanted to check that I am not missing anything *important*. The process appears to work correctly but .. Thanks -- DSig David Tod Sigafoos When I'm good I'm very good, but when I'm bad I'm better. Mae West --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
Re[2]: [U2] Intercall - ic_opensession
jbutera, yes, we have been using that for years in universe. My question was more about the Unidata extension and what it brings? thanks Tuesday, August 2, 2005, 11:30:26 AM, you wrote: The intercall definition ic_opensession is defined for opening a session for a connection to U2 .. there is also a ic_unidata_session and a ic_universe_session. The only difference I can see between the 3 is that ic_unidata_session has a 7th parameter 'Unidata_Server'. Otherwise they all appear to work the same. As we are moving a process from Universe to Unidata i wanted to check that I am not missing anything *important*. The process appears to work correctly but .. jhe I've been using this on Unidata for 3+ years without a hitch: jhe session_id=ic_opensession(server,username,password,account,code,NULL); -- DSig ` David Tod Sigafoos ( O O ) ___oOOo__( )__oOOo___ Our greatest duty in this life is to help others. And please, if you can't help them, could you at least not hurt them? - H.H. the Dalai Lama --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
[U2] Index and Print servers
A friend asked me recently about the need or Print and Index servers on Unidata. As I don't work with Unidata that much, or at least not to the infrastructure level, I thought I would pass this on to the knowledge trust here. They are running 'current' unidata on Sun OS box. They have around 600 users with fairly active entry and reporting going on. They have noticed a lot of different bog downs and we have been able to find some. SO .. their question is .. should they be using Index/Print servers. If so using Unix for these processes they shouldn't need 'state of the art' boxes .. Yes thanks -- DSig David Tod Sigafoos --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
Re[2]: [U2] Index and Print servers
Ken, thanks for the info .. your 'little idea what you mean by .. ' tells me a lot. I believe it is 6.x but they are looking to make sure. My friend just got there and found a company with no 'support' for these system, no knowledge of what is or was there. So she is digging through everything to find out what is what. '.. application in that environment without input from someone who knows UniData could end up with a system that doesn't run as smoothly as it could' which is right where we are. There are a lot if file size issues we know we have to work through. I had not heard of index servers on unidata (or universe for that matter which is where i am from) but it was asked at the company and thought I would pass it along .. Thanks again DSig --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
Re: [U2] U2 group archives
Ralph, try www.indexinfocus.com (noted on the u2ug.org Main Menu/Email List page Thursday, July 21, 2005, 11:30:38 AM, you wrote: RB How do I find the message archives? RB RB Thanks, RB Ralph RB --- RB u2-users mailing list RB u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org RB To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ -- DSig ` David Tod Sigafoos ( O O ) ___oOOo__( )__oOOo___ 'Politics is like driving. To go backward, put it in R. To go forward, put it in D' unknown --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
Re[2]: [U2] Include Vs Call - Software Maintenance
Jeffrey, Thursday, May 19, 2005, 8:23:40 AM, you wrote: JB On Thursday 19 May 2005 09:58, Mark Johnson wrote: So are functions a kept secret in MV programming or has no-one had any issues with them? I'd like to know so I could either get better with them or ignore them and continue with subs. JB Functionally speaking, why would I use a function which can return a single JB argument when I can use a subroutine which can return 1 or more? 2 reasons off the top of my head .. 1) allows boolean operation against so you could if myfucn( .. ) then I find this much cleaner than mysub(...) if ... then 2) the original constructs of subroutines and functions (not mv but in the real programming world :) was that subroutines were passed data in parameters .. but you couldn't change the parameters .. Functions allowed for a routine to pass back information. Now .. true .. like so many other things .. these are not rules in MV .. but i use this structure (an ask our programmers to do the same) as I feel it is much easier to *see* what has been changed. IF i need to modify/passback multiple items either i put them in an static or dynamic array .. depending. Some people think it is more work than is necessary .. but that is fine. We are always thinking of maintenance and support .. --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
Re[2]: [U2] Questions about addRequestParameter
Mike, Wednesday, May 18, 2005, 5:22:15 AM, you wrote: If you are accessing a web service, callHTTP is for HTTP requests, similar to an HTML form post. It does not send XML. If you are not, ignore the rest of this! MD Just to throw in my 2 cents, you can use callHTTP to send XML. We are MD running 16 different interfaces using callHTTP POST to send and receive XML. MD Also, the response files contain embedded pdf's, html, or can be used with MD XSL stylesheets. MD That is not to say, however, that the SOAP functionality may not be better MD suited for your purposes. you are, of course correct .. you don't need SOAP etc to do this as my original post mentioned .. Simple callHttp passing the XML works great -- DSig ` David Tod Sigafoos ( O O ) ___oOOo__( )__oOOo___ Cannot open file C:\DOCUMENTS AND SETTINGS\DAVID TOD SIGAFOOS\APPLICATION DATA\BATMAIL\COOKIES.TXT --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
Re[2]: [U2] Questions about addRequestParameter
Bruce, Tuesday, May 17, 2005, 10:34:19 PM, you wrote: BL Thanks, David. BL I did finally get it to work, after changing the url address. BL I was geeting a 0 response to my requests but it wasn't giving me what I was BL asking for. It turns out that something along the way was changing the url BL from ws. to www. and that put me in the wrong camp, but the right service. BL Everything is working great, now. Great .. you have to poke around as the 'documentation' is not quite explicit and there does not seem to be any real examples .. but when all is said and done .. it works quite well --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
Re: [U2] Questions about addRequestParameter
Bruce, i recently used callHttp to generate 'Customs Form' through the USPS. You are basically right in your understanding. It is very quick as long as you have a good connection .. we were getting forms back in PDF format (6 pages) in approx 2-4 seconds after submit. For your address you should be able to get response quicker. so .. rtn = createRequest(.) will return 0 if there was no error. This builds the handle that all the other requests use. Not sure what you want to 'see' with the handle. give it a try .. think you will like the results. DTsig Monday, May 16, 2005, 3:19:20 PM, you wrote: BL Hi All Esteemed Ones, BL I have been investigating using callhttp to send addresses to the web for BL address verification and the documentation is leaving me a little BL unfulfilled. BL If I am understanding things correctly, I first do: BL createRequest(URL, http_method, request_handle) BL Then, I would add the address fields one by one to this by issuing: BL addRequestParameter(request_handle, parameter_name, parameter_value, BL content_handling) BL for as many fields as I have to validate. BL Finally, I would do: BL submitRequest(request_handle, time_out, post_data, response_headers, BL response_data, http_status). The response_headers and response_data vars BL would have my reply. In this case it is XML. BL I am assuming that the request_handle is used by all three processes but I BL cannot see what is being done with it. I don't know whether it is correct or BL not. BL And finally, can anyone tell me if this is even worth pursuing? Is it fast BL enough to use with data-entry? Or should I be looking into another method? BL Thanks, BL R. Bruce Lunt BL HP/UX v. 11 BL Unidata v. 6.0 BL --- BL u2-users mailing list BL u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org BL To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ BL __ NOD32 1.1099 (20050516) Information __ BL This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. BL http://www.nod32.com -- DSig ` David Tod Sigafoos ( O O ) ___oOOo__( )__oOOo___ Cannot open file C:\DOCUMENTS AND SETTINGS\DAVID TOD SIGAFOOS\APPLICATION DATA\BATMAIL\COOKIES.TXT --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
Re[4]: [U2] Printing PDF from uv {Unclassified}
Thanks all .. it was the DOS command that i was missing Tuesday, April 26, 2005, 12:17:40 AM, you wrote: RW Don't forget that UniVerse BASIC has three quote characters, RW the backslash being the third. And PERFORM is more efficient than RW EXECUTE (depending on flavor and/or $OPTIONS) since it doesn't set RW up an extra execution level. F'r instance: RW Cmd = \DOS /C AcroRd32 /p /t 123.pdf\ RW PERFORM Cmd RW --- RW u2-users mailing list RW u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org RW To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ RW __ NOD32 1.1079 (20050426) Information __ RW This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. RW http://www.nod32.com -- DSig ` David Tod Sigafoos ( O O ) ___oOOo__( )__oOOo___ Cannot open file C:\DOCUMENTS AND SETTINGS\DAVID TOD SIGAFOOS\APPLICATION DATA\BATMAIL\COOKIES.TXT --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
[U2] Printing PDF from uv
I must say this has been a very interesting project .. learned lots of great stuff (some from this group) and had to come up with many work arounds .. i can feel the brain cells firing. Now .. how to print a PDF to a specific printer .. is there a way to do this from universe? 10.0.1 on windows Primarily the client has a shipping package running under windows which uses ODBC to update the uniVerse table with shipping info. There is a trigger on this table which we will enhance to generate the PDFs (postal forms etc) and then once generated (by the trigger process) we want UV to 'print' the PDF form to a specific printer. I am looking for ideas, directions etc to get this working .. everything is cool except the printing bits .. Thanks again -- DSig David Tod Sigafoos --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
Re[2]: [U2] Printing PDF from uv
Tony, thanks .. but the question is not use of Acrobat or ghost(?) or .. but how to have uniVerse perform a 'cmd' on a windows system. I probably wasn't very explicit in my original post. The ENCODE is a pretty sweet command, now that I know it is there G, but once the file is written out is there a way to get universe to send off the printing to Acrobat on the server? thanks again Monday, April 25, 2005, 2:41:39 PM, you wrote: TG I did a little googling on the topic and found the typical assortment of TG PDF tools in the market. They range in cost from free to about $1500, with TG very little relation between cost and quality - a perfect example of how TG the mystery of the medium allows some people to command whatever the market TG will bear. PlanetPDF.com and PDFStore.com have a good assortment of tools. TG Try using this string to search in Google: TG print pdf command line TG Only you can decide about what's good value from what's outrageous. TG One interesting hit was this one: TG http://www.stat.rice.edu/~helpdesk/compguide/node13.html TG It offers a couple brief but helpful tips. TG HTH -- DSig ` David Tod Sigafoos ( O O ) ___oOOo__( )__oOOo___ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
Re[4]: [U2] Printing PDF from uv
Bob, that's the info i was looking for .. dsig Monday, April 25, 2005, 4:07:35 PM, you wrote: BW To issue a command from within a basic program in Universe, use BW something like this: BW CMD = DOS /c 'dir c:\*.dat' BW EXECUTE CMD CAPTURING DAT.LIST BW I'm pretty sure the /c is case sensitive but I've never really tested BW that. Watch the single and double quote marks, not so much of the order BW as is pairing them up where you want them. -- DSig ` David Tod Sigafoos ( O O ) ___oOOo__( )__oOOo___ Cannot open file C:\DOCUMENTS AND SETTINGS\DAVID TOD SIGAFOOS\APPLICATION DATA\BATMAIL\COOKIES.TXT --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
Re[4]: [U2] Printing PDF from uv {Unclassified}
Mike thanks man .. that is the kind of info i was looking for dsig Monday, April 25, 2005, 4:46:42 PM, you wrote: HMM In UniVerse Basic you can do it directly by HMM Cmd = DOS /c ' HMM Cmd := DOS Command HMM Cmd := ' HMM EXECUTE Cmd HMM e.g. HMM Cmd = DOS /c ' HMM Cmd := AcroRd32 /p /t 123.pdf HMM Cmd := ' HMM EXECUTE Cmd HMM Or HMM If it's more complicated than that, you could create a .BAT file on the HMM fly and then execute that by the method shown above. HMM HTh -- DSig ` David Tod Sigafoos ( O O ) ___oOOo__( )__oOOo___ Cannot open file C:\DOCUMENTS AND SETTINGS\DAVID TOD SIGAFOOS\APPLICATION DATA\BATMAIL\COOKIES.TXT --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
[U2] URL Encoding
trying to connect and send a string through createRequest and then submitRequest .. urlString = 'http://sandbox.dowap.org/tools/httprequest/?API=CustomsCN22XM L=CustomsCP72V2Request USERID=91919191919 PASSWORD=1919191919191Option/From FirstNameJohn/FromFirstNameFromLastNameSmith/FromLastNameFromFirmXYZ Co rporation/FromFirmFromAddress1Suite A/FromAddress1FromAddress21234 Etail er Dr./FromAddress2FromUrbanization/FromCityLos Angeles/FromCityFromSta teCA/FromStateFromZip590052/FromZip5 ... /CustomsCP72V2Request The problem is that it appears from the manual that POST will cause the URL to be encoded .. but that does not appear to be happening. So, is it possible (or better yet *correct*) to do it this way or is there another way to pass this on? We are not allowed to use the XML or DOM so forget that G Also .. what is AddRequestParameter() used for? Since the parameters are in the URL. Thanks -- DSig David Tod Sigafoos --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
[U2] Decoding 64Base string
I am looking for information on decoding a base64 string. We will be receiving this back with an xml stream from a client. The base64 string is a image which we must decode and write out. Anyone having done this? Would love to talk to you about it or possibly get snippets to get us on our way. I have searched the u2ug site but found nothing thanks .. -- DSig David Tod Sigafoos --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
Re: [U2] Re: Decoding Base64 String
Jeff, Monday, April 18, 2005, 11:59:00 AM, you wrote: JS Go here: http://www.fourmilab.ch/webtools/base64/ JS Freeware command line base64 encoder/decoder oh man .. thanks .. i think G .. c .. uuu JS Quoting David Tod Sigafoos [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I am looking for information on decoding a base64 string. We will be receiving this back with an xml stream from a client. The base64 string is a image which we must decode and write out. -- DSig ` David Tod Sigafoos ( O O ) ___oOOo__( )__oOOo___ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
Re[2]: [U2] BCI and Dates to SqlServer
Ray, if you get a chance could you please look at the sample code I sent. I can not find any errors in it and yet the dates do not work. According to the manual .. If you use SQL.B.INTDATE, the SQL Client Interface assumes the program variable holds a date in UniVerse internal date format and uses the DATEFORM conversion string to convert the internal date to an external format as required by the data source. As you can see from the sample code I sent last week I am using SQL.B.INTDATE with SQL.DATE which should force the internal date to the correct format. My test code sets 'date = 13598' which should be converted to 24Mar05. I have tried to mix and match this .. but still have no success. Any help will be appreciated. thanks Thursday, March 24, 2005, 1:52:39 PM, you wrote: RW BCI mimics the ODBC API, so dates are expected to be in ODBC format (-MM-DD). RW Using the constant SQL.B.DATE in SQLBindParameter() or RW SQLBindColumn() causes an implicit conversion to occur, so that RW you get internal format out of a SELECT, and must supply internal RW format in bound variables to an INSERT or UPDATE. -- DSig ` David Tod Sigafoos ( O O ) ___oOOo__( )__oOOo___ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
Re[2]: [U2] BCI and Dates to SqlServer
Ray,
sorry to do this again but i forgot to mention ..
if i change the 'prepare' section as noted here .. it does work well.
Now I can modify the read, write shells to force the conversion ..
but now am really interested in why i am not getting it right to
begin with g
*if (SQLBindParameter(sqlStmtEnv, 2, SQL.B.INTDATE, SQL.DATE, 30, 0, date)
SQL.SUCCESS) then stop 'date'
if (SQLBindParameter(sqlStmtEnv, 2, SQL.B.BASIC, SQL.DATE, 30, 0, date)
SQL.SUCCESS) then stop 'date'
nbr = 1
tdate = 13598
tdate = oconv(tdate,'D4-')
date = field(tdate,'-',3) :'-': field(tdate,'-',1) :'-': field(tdate,'-',2)
sqlStatement = 'insert into testDate values (' : nbr : ',' : squote(date) : ')'
*sqlStatement = 'insert into testDate values (?,?)'
IF (SQLPrepare(sqlStmtEnv, sqlStatement) SQL.SUCCESS) then stop 'prepare'
*nbr = 1
*tdate = 13598
*tdate = oconv(tdate,'D4-')
*date = field(tdate,'-',3) :'-': field(tdate,'-',1) :'-': field(tdate,'-',2)
Thanks again ..
Thursday, March 24, 2005, 1:52:39 PM, you wrote:
RW BCI mimics the ODBC API, so dates are expected to be in ODBC format
(-MM-DD).
RW Using the constant SQL.B.DATE in SQLBindParameter() or
RW SQLBindColumn() causes an implicit conversion to occur, so that
RW you get internal format out of a SELECT, and must supply internal
RW format in bound variables to an INSERT or UPDATE.
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Re[2]: [U2] BCI and Dates to SqlServer
Ray, Thursday, March 24, 2005, 1:52:39 PM, you wrote: RW BCI mimics the ODBC API, so dates are expected to be in ODBC format (-MM-DD). yes .. RW Using the constant SQL.B.DATE in SQLBindParameter() or RW SQLBindColumn() causes an implicit conversion to occur, so that RW you get internal format out of a SELECT, and must supply internal RW format in bound variables to an INSERT or UPDATE. I do use the SQL.B.INTDATE and SQL.DATE. MsSql creates as datetime (using Enterprise Manager) .. As soon as i try to write to this column i get the error. If i change the column to 'char' in all places then it writes out correctly. It is only DATE that i have any problems with (haven't tried time). INTs chars varchars (which map also to text columns) etc work well. It is only date .. it must be something on my end as I would find it odd that there is some ambiguity in the uv - odbc interface -- DSig ` David Tod Sigafoos ( O O ) ___oOOo__( )__oOOo___ Cannot open file C:\DOCUMENTS AND SETTINGS\DAVID TOD SIGAFOOS\APPLICATION DATA\BATMAIL\COOKIES.TXT --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
Re[2]: [U2] BCI and Dates to SqlServer
Ray, Thursday, March 24, 2005, 1:52:39 PM, you wrote: snip as further follow up here is a sample routine and info. Note that that the only problem shows up after the sqlExecute .. and it is caused by the write .. RUN DAVES.BP DATE_TEST.MV Program: DATE_TEST Status for sqlExecute call is: -1 SQLSTATE,NATCOD are:S1C00 0 Error text is [IBM][SQL Client][ODBC][Microsoft][ODBC SQL Server Driver]Optional feature n ot implemented Program DATE_TEST.MV: Line 69, Cannot resolve ERRMSG item EXITING CKSTMTENV. sql definition: tableName = testDate columns nbr int testDatedatetime --- program = 'DATE_TEST' include UNIVERSE.INCLUDE ODBC.H equ TRUE$ to 1 equ FALSE$ to 0 equ NULL$ to '' if (SQLAllocEnv(comBaseEnv) SQL.SUCCESS) SQL.SUCCESS then stop 'allocEnv' if (SQLAllocConnect(comBaseEnv, comConnEnv) SQL.SUCCESS) then stop 'allocConnect' if (SQLConnect(comConnEnv, 'Universe','Universe','universe') SQL.SUCCESS) then stop 'Connect' if (SQLAllocStmt(comConnEnv, sqlStmtEnv) SQL.SUCCESS) SQL.SUCCESS then stop 'allocStmt' nbr = NULL$ date = NULL$ if (SQLBindParameter(sqlStmtEnv, 1, SQL.B.BASIC, SQL.INTEGER, 4, 0, nbr) SQL.SUCCESS) then stop 'BP nbr' if (SQLBindParameter(sqlStmtEnv, 2, SQL.B.INTDATE, SQL.DATE, 30, 0, date) SQL.SUCCESS) then stop 'date' sqlStatement = 'insert into testDate values (?,?)' IF (SQLPrepare(sqlStmtEnv, sqlStatement) SQL.SUCCESS) then stop 'prepare' nbr = 1 date = 13598 status = sqlExecute(sqlStmtEnv) if status SQL.SUCCESS then sqlRoutine = 'sqlExecute' gosub CKSTMTENV end STOP CKSTMTENV: STATUS = status Fn = sqlRoutine Expect = '' IF STATUS EQ -2 THEN status = SQLFreeStmt(sqlStmtEnv, SQL.DROP) STOP INVALID STATEMENT HANDLE end IF STATUS EQ 100 THEN RETURN IF STATUS NE 0 THEN 301* ST = SQLERROR(-1,-1,sqlStmtEnv,STATE,NATCODE,ERRTXT) IF ST SQL.NO.DATA.FOUND THEN PRINT COUNT = 1 IF Expect NE 0 AND STATE = Expect AND ST SQL.NO.DATA.FOUND THEN PRINT Allowed error of :STATE: returned for func :Fn GOTO 399 END ELSE PRINT 'Program: ': program PRINT Status for :Fn: call is: :STATUS PRINT SQLSTATE,NATCOD are: : STATE: :NATCODE PRINT Error text is PRINT : ERRTXT END IF ST = 0 THEN GOTO 301 END IF STATUS = -1 AND COUNT = 1 THEN status = SQLFreeStmt(sqlStmtEnv, SQL.DROP) STOP EXITING CKSTMTENV end END 399* IF STATUS 0 THEN PRINT RETURN -- DSig ` David Tod Sigafoos ( O O ) ___oOOo__( )__oOOo___ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
Re: [U2] Basic program editor for Windows
MBTPublish, Sunday, February 13, 2005, 10:39:00 AM, you wrote: Mac When I'm teaching my Basic programming courses, I am frequently asked about Mac any Windows editors which might be used to edit the source programs which are Mac held in DIRECTORY / DIR type files. Can anyone suggest any suitable Mac software which I might recommend? Mac It would be nice if the software had facilities for highlighting keywords, Mac labels, variables and so on, and if it could indent the source code. Textpad at textpad.com You can define hightlight syntax and even create a list oc commands and options. There is a syntax file available from their site for PICK. I have one for uniVerse and one for OpenInsight that I use daily for many years Give it a try .. it's free to test (with a nag screen only) -- DSig ` David Tod Sigafoos ( O O ) ___oOOo__( )__oOOo___ Cannot open file C:\DOCUMENTS AND SETTINGS\DAVID TOD SIGAFOOS\APPLICATION DATA\BATMAIL\COOKIES.TXT --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
Re: [U2] Running a stored procedure from Excel
To start with be sure they have a good working odbc connection to uniVerse (just checking ..) Next .. the 'Basic Sql Client Interface Guide' has some great info on running a procedure .. Where is it not working? DSig David Tod Sigafoos -Original Message- From: Richard Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2005 14:38:42 -0500 Subject: [U2] Running a stored procedure from Excel I have a co-worker that is trying to get a stored procedure to run from Excel via an ODBC connection. What he is trying to do is have a routine that will regenerate some data whenever this query is run or the refresh button is clicked. This is a straight ODBC connection run against UniData Any help would be appreciated. Rich Taylor | Senior Programmer/Analyst| VERTIS 250 W. Pratt Street | Baltimore, MD 21201 P 410.361.8688 | F 410.528.0319 [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.vertisinc.com Vertis is the premier provider of targeted advertising, media, and marketing services that drive consumers to marketers more effectively. The more they complicate the plumbing the easier it is to stop up the drain - Montgomery Scott NCC-1701 --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
Re[2]: [U2] Edit / Remove a record with no ID
Iain, Tuesday, January 18, 2005, 2:36:41 PM, you wrote: HI Simon, HI Have you tried to do a SSELECT (Ok, I only know Unidata, but UV is similar), HI and then Edit that list. HI Anything that has a NULL ID in the file will float to the top and then just HI delete that record. You might also try equ TRUE$ to 1 equ FALSE$ to 0 equ NULL$ to '' OPEN '','tablename' to hndTable then eof = TRUE$ select hndTable loop readnext idTable else eof = FALSE$ until eof do if trim( idTable ) = NULL$ then delete hndTable, idTable else null end repeat end of course you might want to write the offending records to temp ids before deleting .. might be some good bits there --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
Re: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Re:_[U2]_Where_Will_the_=2ENET_Apps_Live_??=
brian, Monday, December 27, 2004, 3:44:01 AM, you wrote: snip bbcu But you are absolutely right that it all begins and ends with the server bbcu logic. Get that right, and the choice of front end become pretty much bbcu irrelevant. I always tell my clients to build the server first: it is bbcu so much easier to verify and QA before the front end is assembled. bbcu Unfortunately too many sites still seem to approach it from the other bbcu end and end up with garbage and high QA costs. Have to disagree a bit with this. Although the backend is very important so is the front end. Knowing your market .. the way users actually do their work for the specific market and tying the two together. That is the challenge. The choice of front ends is just a critical for this portion of the environment. Although Delphi is a brilliant product, OpenInsight is much better for any MV environment. With a native bond to U2 it is just about the perfect tool for MV front end development. Front end does matter. Although you can set a screw with a hammer a screw driver would be the preferred tool g -- DSig ` David Tod Sigafoos ( O O ) ___oOOo__( )__oOOo___ Whenever you are in doubt...apply the first test. Recall the face of the poorest and the weakest man whom you may have seen, and ask yourself if the step you contemplate is going to be any use to him...True development puts first those that society puts last.-Mahatma Gandhi --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
[U2] PDF docs
It used to be that the pdfs were available for download. It appears now that all pdfs are for ONLINE only reading. Have I just not found the 'download' section? Thanks -- DSig David Tod Sigafoos If patriotism has to precipitate us into dishonour, if there is no precipice of inhumanity over which nations and men will not throw themselves, then, why in fact do we go to so much trouble to become, or to remain, human? Jean-Paul Sartre --- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2] problems with XP and PE
Nick, thanks for the reply. 1) Uni-XPPro on network. Network works valid NO firewall. I can PING from secondary machine. 2) Netstat shows the following Proto Local Address Foreign AddressState TCPDSigsHpLaptop:telnet asi1043.asi.com:1400 CLOSE_WAIT TCPDSigsHpLaptop:3029 207.46.156.60:http CLOSE_WAIT TCPDSigsHpLaptop:3030 207.46.134.30:http CLOSE_WAIT TCPDSigsHpLaptop:telnet localhost:3037 CLOSE_WAIT TCPDSigsHpLaptop:telnet localhost:3038 CLOSE_WAIT TCPDSigsHpLaptop:telnet localhost:3039 ESTABLISHED Disconnecting the local hyperterminal and 3039 goes to CLOSE_WAIT After turning off Uni Telnet all :telnet go away 3) PE version 10(?) just downloaded yesterday DSig David Tod Sigafoos -Original Message- From: Nick Southwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2004 01:07:13 +0100 Subject: RE: [U2] problems with XP and PE Have you got XP firewall switched on? Are you connected to a LAN with a valid functioning NIC? Does a netstat show a listening against port 23? (with and without Unidata Telnet service running?) What version of PE? Cheers Nick -Original Message- From: David Tod Sigafoos [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 01 July 2004 00:25 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [U2] problems with XP and PE I have just installed PE onto an XP pro machine. I am unable to connect through telnet. Service shows started but no joy in Mudville if I use hyperterminal (have used before) i get no response but the clock shows it is connected. I have not seen this before so am wondering if anyone knows what is going on. thanks DSig David Tod Sigafoos --- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ This correspondence is confidential and is solely for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient, you must not use, disclose, copy, distribute or retain this message or any part of it. If you are not the intended recipient please delete this correspondence from your system and notify the sender immediately. No warranty is given that this correspondence is free from any virus. In keeping with good computer practice, you should ensure that it is actually virus free. E-mail messages may be subject to delays, non-delivery and unauthorised alterations therefore, information expressed in this message is not given or endorsed by Open and Direct Group Limited unless otherwise notified by our duly authorised representative independent of this message. Open and Direct Group Limited is a limited company registered in United Kingdom under number 4390810 whose registered office is at 10 Norwich Street, London, EC4A 1BD --- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
[U2] problems with XP and PE
I have just installed PE onto an XP pro machine. I am unable to connect through telnet. Service shows started but no joy in Mudville if I use hyperterminal (have used before) i get no response but the clock shows it is connected. I have not seen this before so am wondering if anyone knows what is going on. thanks DSig David Tod Sigafoos --- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
[U2] PE10
u2-users, I have just installed the personal edition and can not find what the initial login/password is. I have searched the docs but must have missed it -- DSig David Tod Sigafoos If patriotism has to precipitate us into dishonour, if there is no precipice of inhumanity over which nations and men will not throw themselves, then, why in fact do we go to so much trouble to become, or to remain, human? Jean-Paul Sartre --- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.u2ug.org/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] PE10
David, Wednesday, May 26, 2004, 5:41:34 PM, you wrote: DTS u2-users, DTS I have just installed the personal edition and can not find what the DTS initial login/password is. I have searched the docs but must have DTS missed it DOH! after posting I remembered Windows User/Password. I love helping myself G -- DSig ` David Tod Sigafoos ( O O ) ___oOOo__( )__oOOo___ If patriotism has to precipitate us into dishonour, if there is no precipice of inhumanity over which nations and men will not throw themselves, then, why in fact do we go to so much trouble to become, or to remain, human? Jean-Paul Sartre --- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.u2ug.org/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] OT - Visual Basic 6.0
kmbodine, try a quick search on Google .. visual basic user groups Monday, May 10, 2004, 8:08:40 AM, you wrote: k Can anyone tell me where is find a Visual Basic User group? I looking k for some help k Thank you k --- k u2-users mailing list k [EMAIL PROTECTED] k http://www.u2ug.org/listinfo/u2-users -- DSig ` David Tod Sigafoos ( O O ) ___oOOo__( )__oOOo___ If patriotism has to precipitate us into dishonour, if there is no precipice of inhumanity over which nations and men will not throw themselves, then, why in fact do we go to so much trouble to become, or to remain, human? Jean-Paul Sartre --- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.u2ug.org/listinfo/u2-users
