RE: [OT][U2] Wintegrate

2006-12-15 Thread leslie chamberlin
I'd like to give kudos to Peter and his Accuterm 2K2 product.  I am
fairly new to this environment and had issues which I inquired about to
Peter prior to the release of the latest version.  Not only did he
include me in beta testing, but the items I brought to his attention
were resolved.  I applaud his hands on approach, customer service, and
the product he has to offer.

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In my post I suggested not focusing on cost alone.

So is there a fair comparison (like consumer reports) between Wintegrate
and
Accuterm. I've used both and am pro-Accuterm and am finding some of my
colleagues dissing Accuterm 97 as that's as far as they got. Yes, I'm
using
Wintegrate 98 but I don't know what their latest is either.

I can't imagine Accuterm 2K2 falling short on any comparison for any
features as Peter Schellenbach has impressed me tremendously with his
knowledge (or access to) MS internals and MV internals in his product.

Therefore, is there an unbiased review of the features of these 2
emulators.
And what about Procomm and/or Viaduct.

Thanks
Mark Johnson


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From: "Bill Haskett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2006 6:29 PM
Subject: RE: [OT][U2] Wintegrate


> Mark:
>
> The usual rule for technologists is "we want what we want because
someone
> else is paying for it".  The usual rule for business people is "we
want
what
> works as long as it's cost effective (or cheap)".  :-)
>
> The cost difference isn't really fair for a side-by-side comparison of
the
> benefits of the products.
>
> To me the cost is of paramount importance because whatever wIntegrate
has
> that AccuTerm doesn't have can't possibly justify wIntegrate costing
$11,250
> for a 50 user operation vs $1,000 for AccuTerm when I'm paying for it.
It's
> like U2 costing $75,000 for a 100 user license while DB2 or SQL Server
costs
> $5,000 - $7,500 for an unlimited single CPU license.  It makes it hard
to
> compete.
>
> Bill
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Johnson
> Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2006 2:45 PM
> To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
> Subject: Re: [OT][U2] Wintegrate
>
> I'm all ears. I've been using Wintegrate for 10 years (most recent is
W98)
> and was Pro-Wintegrate up until 2 years ago when a client wanted to
get
out
> from under VE-Client (that's another disaster).
>
> I wrote up my side of the story and another consultant posted his side
about
> Accuterm 2K2 (The latest). Side, by side things were equal until we
got to
> WED, GED and, best of all (although no flames for being only price
> conscious), the price. IBM wanted $225 per seat for my client's 40
user
> system and Accuterm was $1,000 for 50 seats. The best IBM would do is
a 5%
> discount.
>
> Considering the immense support that I've personally received from
Peter
> Schellenbach and the wonderful features of Accuterm, compared to the
stoic
> corporate stonewall from IBM it was more of a no brainer.
>
> Perhaps if you're remembering Accuterm only as a terminal emulator
then
> that's not fair to accuterm. The WED program editor is the best I've
seen
in
> my 3 decades of MV programming and the GED environment allows
VB-looking
> forms to work directly with the MV database without any ODBC or other
> middleware. Plus, there's a whole boatload of VB-Scripting
capabilities
that
> make every PC and network resource available to a MV program.
>
> As an emulator, accuterm can have multiple sessions in split windows,
bridge
> copy/paste between different systems, copy/paste to MS apps, detect PC
> elements like last window opened etc plus all the expected keyboard
mapping,
> emulations and other emulator stuff.
>
> For us programmers, WED is worth the price of admission by itself.
Words
> cannot fully describe how wonderful editing MV programs with a notepad
> editor that understands MV concepts as compared to just using notepad.
>
> My 2 cents for Accuterm.
> Mark Johnson
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Symeon Breen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2006 3:43 PM
> Subject: Re: [OT][U2] Wintegrate
>
>
> > No No No- Wintegrate wins against Accuterm any day .
> >
> > On 14/12/06, Mark Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > If you must get wintegrate, it should still be available from IBM.
> > >
> > > I would strongl

RE: [OT][U2] Wintegrate

2006-12-15 Thread Debster
This should depend on your current version of Unidata/Universe and what
platform so you had better check what goes with what version

I was unable to get Unidebugger to actually even load on some installs with
later versions of Universe.  Buggy to say the least on some previous
installs.  I found it much easier (and reliable) to simply drop-kick to
ye'ol debugger or Trace in the case of use with SB+

Accuterm is better choice over Wintegrate, although I would never use the
proprietary GUI, (if it ain't portable) since I found it
ratherwellconvoluted and not worth the effort.

 ~ Debbie  

"Anyone can hold the helm when the sea is calm"

-Syrus Publilius

www.infinite-systems.net 

 
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I want wIntegrate because of the tie-in to unidebugger, which can then
be tied into PRC which we are going to be purchasing soon.

Thanks,
 
Nick Cipollina
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Have you checked into Dynamic Connect?  It is the default supplied with 
Unidata/Universe PE version.

Vance Alspach




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If you must get wintegrate, it should still be available from IBM.

I would strongly go with Accuterm as it wins hands down on many 
comparisons.
Unless your apps are married to wintegrate's gui components.

Accuterm's GUI designer is huge. 2 of my clients have dictated that all 
new
programs are done with it and it works perfectly side by side in a green
screen environment.

Best of all, Accuterm is $1,000 for 50 licenses versus $225 each from
IBM.
You do the math.

My 1,000 cents
Mark Johnson



> Does anyone know where I can get a copy of Wintegrate?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Nick Cipollina
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Re: [OT][U2] Wintegrate

2006-12-15 Thread Mark Johnson
In my post I suggested not focusing on cost alone.

So is there a fair comparison (like consumer reports) between Wintegrate and
Accuterm. I've used both and am pro-Accuterm and am finding some of my
colleagues dissing Accuterm 97 as that's as far as they got. Yes, I'm using
Wintegrate 98 but I don't know what their latest is either.

I can't imagine Accuterm 2K2 falling short on any comparison for any
features as Peter Schellenbach has impressed me tremendously with his
knowledge (or access to) MS internals and MV internals in his product.

Therefore, is there an unbiased review of the features of these 2 emulators.
And what about Procomm and/or Viaduct.

Thanks
Mark Johnson


- Original Message -
From: "Bill Haskett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2006 6:29 PM
Subject: RE: [OT][U2] Wintegrate


> Mark:
>
> The usual rule for technologists is "we want what we want because someone
> else is paying for it".  The usual rule for business people is "we want
what
> works as long as it's cost effective (or cheap)".  :-)
>
> The cost difference isn't really fair for a side-by-side comparison of the
> benefits of the products.
>
> To me the cost is of paramount importance because whatever wIntegrate has
> that AccuTerm doesn't have can't possibly justify wIntegrate costing
$11,250
> for a 50 user operation vs $1,000 for AccuTerm when I'm paying for it.
It's
> like U2 costing $75,000 for a 100 user license while DB2 or SQL Server
costs
> $5,000 - $7,500 for an unlimited single CPU license.  It makes it hard to
> compete.
>
> Bill
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Johnson
> Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2006 2:45 PM
> To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
> Subject: Re: [OT][U2] Wintegrate
>
> I'm all ears. I've been using Wintegrate for 10 years (most recent is W98)
> and was Pro-Wintegrate up until 2 years ago when a client wanted to get
out
> from under VE-Client (that's another disaster).
>
> I wrote up my side of the story and another consultant posted his side
about
> Accuterm 2K2 (The latest). Side, by side things were equal until we got to
> WED, GED and, best of all (although no flames for being only price
> conscious), the price. IBM wanted $225 per seat for my client's 40 user
> system and Accuterm was $1,000 for 50 seats. The best IBM would do is a 5%
> discount.
>
> Considering the immense support that I've personally received from Peter
> Schellenbach and the wonderful features of Accuterm, compared to the stoic
> corporate stonewall from IBM it was more of a no brainer.
>
> Perhaps if you're remembering Accuterm only as a terminal emulator then
> that's not fair to accuterm. The WED program editor is the best I've seen
in
> my 3 decades of MV programming and the GED environment allows VB-looking
> forms to work directly with the MV database without any ODBC or other
> middleware. Plus, there's a whole boatload of VB-Scripting capabilities
that
> make every PC and network resource available to a MV program.
>
> As an emulator, accuterm can have multiple sessions in split windows,
bridge
> copy/paste between different systems, copy/paste to MS apps, detect PC
> elements like last window opened etc plus all the expected keyboard
mapping,
> emulations and other emulator stuff.
>
> For us programmers, WED is worth the price of admission by itself. Words
> cannot fully describe how wonderful editing MV programs with a notepad
> editor that understands MV concepts as compared to just using notepad.
>
> My 2 cents for Accuterm.
> Mark Johnson
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Symeon Breen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2006 3:43 PM
> Subject: Re: [OT][U2] Wintegrate
>
>
> > No No No- Wintegrate wins against Accuterm any day .
> >
> > On 14/12/06, Mark Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > If you must get wintegrate, it should still be available from IBM.
> > >
> > > I would strongly go with Accuterm as it wins hands down on many
> > > comparisons.
> > > Unless your apps are married to wintegrate's gui components.
> > >
> > > Accuterm's GUI designer is huge. 2 of my clients have dictated that
all
> > > new
> > > programs are done with it and it works perfectly side by side in a
green
> > > screen environment.
> > >
> > > Best of all, Accuterm is $1,000 for 50 licenses versus $225 each from
> IBM.
> > > You do the math.
> > >
> > > My 1,000 cents

RE: [OT][U2] Wintegrate

2006-12-14 Thread Bill Haskett
Mark:

The usual rule for technologists is "we want what we want because someone
else is paying for it".  The usual rule for business people is "we want what
works as long as it's cost effective (or cheap)".  :-)

The cost difference isn't really fair for a side-by-side comparison of the
benefits of the products.

To me the cost is of paramount importance because whatever wIntegrate has
that AccuTerm doesn't have can't possibly justify wIntegrate costing $11,250
for a 50 user operation vs $1,000 for AccuTerm when I'm paying for it.  It's
like U2 costing $75,000 for a 100 user license while DB2 or SQL Server costs
$5,000 - $7,500 for an unlimited single CPU license.  It makes it hard to
compete.

Bill

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Subject: Re: [OT][U2] Wintegrate

I'm all ears. I've been using Wintegrate for 10 years (most recent is W98)
and was Pro-Wintegrate up until 2 years ago when a client wanted to get out
from under VE-Client (that's another disaster).

I wrote up my side of the story and another consultant posted his side about
Accuterm 2K2 (The latest). Side, by side things were equal until we got to
WED, GED and, best of all (although no flames for being only price
conscious), the price. IBM wanted $225 per seat for my client's 40 user
system and Accuterm was $1,000 for 50 seats. The best IBM would do is a 5%
discount.

Considering the immense support that I've personally received from Peter
Schellenbach and the wonderful features of Accuterm, compared to the stoic
corporate stonewall from IBM it was more of a no brainer.

Perhaps if you're remembering Accuterm only as a terminal emulator then
that's not fair to accuterm. The WED program editor is the best I've seen in
my 3 decades of MV programming and the GED environment allows VB-looking
forms to work directly with the MV database without any ODBC or other
middleware. Plus, there's a whole boatload of VB-Scripting capabilities that
make every PC and network resource available to a MV program.

As an emulator, accuterm can have multiple sessions in split windows, bridge
copy/paste between different systems, copy/paste to MS apps, detect PC
elements like last window opened etc plus all the expected keyboard mapping,
emulations and other emulator stuff.

For us programmers, WED is worth the price of admission by itself. Words
cannot fully describe how wonderful editing MV programs with a notepad
editor that understands MV concepts as compared to just using notepad.

My 2 cents for Accuterm.
Mark Johnson

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From: "Symeon Breen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2006 3:43 PM
Subject: Re: [OT][U2] Wintegrate


> No No No- Wintegrate wins against Accuterm any day .
>
> On 14/12/06, Mark Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > If you must get wintegrate, it should still be available from IBM.
> >
> > I would strongly go with Accuterm as it wins hands down on many
> > comparisons.
> > Unless your apps are married to wintegrate's gui components.
> >
> > Accuterm's GUI designer is huge. 2 of my clients have dictated that all
> > new
> > programs are done with it and it works perfectly side by side in a green
> > screen environment.
> >
> > Best of all, Accuterm is $1,000 for 50 licenses versus $225 each from
IBM.
> > You do the math.
> >
> > My 1,000 cents
> > Mark Johnson
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Nick Cipollina" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: 
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2006 11:47 AM
> > Subject: [OT][U2] Wintegrate
> >
> >
> > > Does anyone know where I can get a copy of Wintegrate?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Nick Cipollina
> > >
> > > MCTS, MCP
> > > ACS Heritage, Inc.
> > > 2810 North Parham Road, Suite 210
> > > Richmond, VA 23294
> > > (804) 965-8294
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Re: [OT][U2] Wintegrate

2006-12-14 Thread Mark Johnson
I'm all ears. I've been using Wintegrate for 10 years (most recent is W98)
and was Pro-Wintegrate up until 2 years ago when a client wanted to get out
from under VE-Client (that's another disaster).

I wrote up my side of the story and another consultant posted his side about
Accuterm 2K2 (The latest). Side, by side things were equal until we got to
WED, GED and, best of all (although no flames for being only price
conscious), the price. IBM wanted $225 per seat for my client's 40 user
system and Accuterm was $1,000 for 50 seats. The best IBM would do is a 5%
discount.

Considering the immense support that I've personally received from Peter
Schellenbach and the wonderful features of Accuterm, compared to the stoic
corporate stonewall from IBM it was more of a no brainer.

Perhaps if you're remembering Accuterm only as a terminal emulator then
that's not fair to accuterm. The WED program editor is the best I've seen in
my 3 decades of MV programming and the GED environment allows VB-looking
forms to work directly with the MV database without any ODBC or other
middleware. Plus, there's a whole boatload of VB-Scripting capabilities that
make every PC and network resource available to a MV program.

As an emulator, accuterm can have multiple sessions in split windows, bridge
copy/paste between different systems, copy/paste to MS apps, detect PC
elements like last window opened etc plus all the expected keyboard mapping,
emulations and other emulator stuff.

For us programmers, WED is worth the price of admission by itself. Words
cannot fully describe how wonderful editing MV programs with a notepad
editor that understands MV concepts as compared to just using notepad.

My 2 cents for Accuterm.
Mark Johnson

- Original Message -
From: "Symeon Breen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2006 3:43 PM
Subject: Re: [OT][U2] Wintegrate


> No No No- Wintegrate wins against Accuterm any day .
>
> On 14/12/06, Mark Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > If you must get wintegrate, it should still be available from IBM.
> >
> > I would strongly go with Accuterm as it wins hands down on many
> > comparisons.
> > Unless your apps are married to wintegrate's gui components.
> >
> > Accuterm's GUI designer is huge. 2 of my clients have dictated that all
> > new
> > programs are done with it and it works perfectly side by side in a green
> > screen environment.
> >
> > Best of all, Accuterm is $1,000 for 50 licenses versus $225 each from
IBM.
> > You do the math.
> >
> > My 1,000 cents
> > Mark Johnson
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Nick Cipollina" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: 
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2006 11:47 AM
> > Subject: [OT][U2] Wintegrate
> >
> >
> > > Does anyone know where I can get a copy of Wintegrate?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Nick Cipollina
> > >
> > > MCTS, MCP
> > > ACS Heritage, Inc.
> > > 2810 North Parham Road, Suite 210
> > > Richmond, VA 23294
> > > (804) 965-8294
> > > ---
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> > > u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
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RE: [OT][U2] Wintegrate

2006-12-14 Thread David Jordan
When you install unidebugger, it first looks for Wintegrate and if that's
not available it sets up to work with dynamic connect.   However if
afterwards wintegrate is uninstalled or a demo versio has expired, then
unidebugger will not start with an error message related to wintegrate.  If
you uninstall and reinstall the unidebugger without wintegrate on the
client, it wil work with dynamic connect.

Regards

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Re: [OT][U2] Wintegrate

2006-12-14 Thread jpb
If I remember correctly Dynamic Connect is a dumbed down version of 
Wintegrate.
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Strange. You actually need to install Dynamic Connect to use
UniDebugger.  With Wintgrate you may not need to, but it seems to be a
bit of overkill just for UniDebugger.

I'd make sure that Dynamic Connect won't work for you before buying
Wintegrate. If you already have then please disregard

Hth
Colin Alfke
Calgary Canada


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I want wIntegrate because of the tie-in to unidebugger, which
can then be tied into PRC which we are going to be purchasing soon.

Thanks,

Nick Cipollina

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RE: [OT][U2] Wintegrate

2006-12-14 Thread colin.alfke
Strange. You actually need to install Dynamic Connect to use
UniDebugger.  With Wintgrate you may not need to, but it seems to be a
bit of overkill just for UniDebugger.

I'd make sure that Dynamic Connect won't work for you before buying
Wintegrate. If you already have then please disregard

Hth
Colin Alfke
Calgary Canada

>-Original Message-
>From: Nick Cipollina
>
>I want wIntegrate because of the tie-in to unidebugger, which 
>can then be tied into PRC which we are going to be purchasing soon.
>
>Thanks,
> 
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Re: [OT][U2] Wintegrate

2006-12-14 Thread Symeon Breen
No No No- Wintegrate wins against Accuterm any day .

On 14/12/06, Mark Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> If you must get wintegrate, it should still be available from IBM.
>
> I would strongly go with Accuterm as it wins hands down on many
> comparisons.
> Unless your apps are married to wintegrate's gui components.
>
> Accuterm's GUI designer is huge. 2 of my clients have dictated that all
> new
> programs are done with it and it works perfectly side by side in a green
> screen environment.
>
> Best of all, Accuterm is $1,000 for 50 licenses versus $225 each from IBM.
> You do the math.
>
> My 1,000 cents
> Mark Johnson
> - Original Message -
> From: "Nick Cipollina" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2006 11:47 AM
> Subject: [OT][U2] Wintegrate
>
>
> > Does anyone know where I can get a copy of Wintegrate?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Nick Cipollina
> >
> > MCTS, MCP
> > ACS Heritage, Inc.
> > 2810 North Parham Road, Suite 210
> > Richmond, VA 23294
> > (804) 965-8294
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RE: [OT][U2] Wintegrate

2006-12-14 Thread Nick Cipollina
I want wIntegrate because of the tie-in to unidebugger, which can then
be tied into PRC which we are going to be purchasing soon.

Thanks,
 
Nick Cipollina
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Have you checked into Dynamic Connect?  It is the default supplied with 
Unidata/Universe PE version.

Vance Alspach




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If you must get wintegrate, it should still be available from IBM.

I would strongly go with Accuterm as it wins hands down on many 
comparisons.
Unless your apps are married to wintegrate's gui components.

Accuterm's GUI designer is huge. 2 of my clients have dictated that all 
new
programs are done with it and it works perfectly side by side in a green
screen environment.

Best of all, Accuterm is $1,000 for 50 licenses versus $225 each from
IBM.
You do the math.

My 1,000 cents
Mark Johnson



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>
> Nick Cipollina
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Re: [OT][U2] Wintegrate

2006-12-14 Thread vance . alspach
Have you checked into Dynamic Connect?  It is the default supplied with 
Unidata/Universe PE version.

Vance Alspach




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If you must get wintegrate, it should still be available from IBM.

I would strongly go with Accuterm as it wins hands down on many 
comparisons.
Unless your apps are married to wintegrate's gui components.

Accuterm's GUI designer is huge. 2 of my clients have dictated that all 
new
programs are done with it and it works perfectly side by side in a green
screen environment.

Best of all, Accuterm is $1,000 for 50 licenses versus $225 each from IBM.
You do the math.

My 1,000 cents
Mark Johnson



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Re: [OT][U2] Wintegrate

2006-12-14 Thread Mark Johnson
If you must get wintegrate, it should still be available from IBM.

I would strongly go with Accuterm as it wins hands down on many comparisons.
Unless your apps are married to wintegrate's gui components.

Accuterm's GUI designer is huge. 2 of my clients have dictated that all new
programs are done with it and it works perfectly side by side in a green
screen environment.

Best of all, Accuterm is $1,000 for 50 licenses versus $225 each from IBM.
You do the math.

My 1,000 cents
Mark Johnson
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RE: [OT][U2] Wintegrate

2006-12-13 Thread Nick Cipollina
Yeah, I had found that already, but I need to know where I can get the
license.

Thanks,
 
Nick Cipollina

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Try...

http://www14.software.ibm.com/webapp/download/search.jsp?go=y&rs=u2trial
s

Russ Watson
Asynchron Systems Inc.

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Does anyone know where I can get a copy of Wintegrate?

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RE: [OT][U2] Wintegrate

2006-12-13 Thread Joe Jamison
You can download a 60 day trial from IBM at
http://www14.software.ibm.com/webapp/download/preconfig.jsp?id=2005-05-0
6+08%3A39%3A27.710626R&S_TACT=104CBW71&S_CMP=

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RE: [OT][U2] Wintegrate

2006-12-13 Thread Russ Watson
Try...

http://www14.software.ibm.com/webapp/download/search.jsp?go=y&rs=u2trial
s

Russ Watson
Asynchron Systems Inc.

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Does anyone know where I can get a copy of Wintegrate?

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Re: [OT][U2] Wintegrate

2006-12-13 Thread Dave Taylor
Nick,

Any authorized IBM Business Partner for U2 products can order wIntegrate for
you.

Please let me know if we can be of assistance.

Best regards,

Dave

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[OT][U2] Wintegrate

2006-12-13 Thread Nick Cipollina
Does anyone know where I can get a copy of Wintegrate?

Thanks,

Nick Cipollina
 
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