RE: [U2] [AD] Green Screen Dev. Environment

2007-10-08 Thread Horacio Pellegrino
Well, the .NET environment works fine with UniObjects in the Windows world.



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True, not everyone has difficulty with SB+, but having trained a lot of SB+
developers over the years, that's the opinion I hear the most.  As you
stated, SB+ has a lot of features and functionality, but equally important
is the ability to rapidly get results, which can be a significant cost saver
over the development lifecycle.  And with that being said, there are still a
number of shops trying to implement SB+ solutions using BASIC implementation
paradigms and trading away much of the rapid development features in the
process.  This then leads to the perception that development actually takes
longer and is more difficult using SB+ than it does in BASIC, when the
reality is that personal choices of how the product is used is more likely
to have contributed to the reduced productivity.

-K
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Re: [U2] [AD] Green Screen Dev. Environment

2007-10-08 Thread Kevin King
True, not everyone has difficulty with SB+, but having trained a lot of SB+
developers over the years, that's the opinion I hear the most.  As you
stated, SB+ has a lot of features and functionality, but equally important
is the ability to rapidly get results, which can be a significant cost saver
over the development lifecycle.  And with that being said, there are still a
number of shops trying to implement SB+ solutions using BASIC implementation
paradigms and trading away much of the rapid development features in the
process.  This then leads to the perception that development actually takes
longer and is more difficult using SB+ than it does in BASIC, when the
reality is that personal choices of how the product is used is more likely
to have contributed to the reduced productivity.

-K
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RE: [U2] [AD] Green Screen Dev. Environment

2007-10-08 Thread Brutzman, Bill
I never thought of SB+ having a "steep learning curve".  

My spin is that SB+ has a lot of features and functionality.

--Bill
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Re: [U2] [AD] Green Screen Dev. Environment

2007-10-06 Thread Kevin King
SB+ is generally known to have a pretty steep learning curve, but once you
figure it out it can provide amazingly rapid results with minimal effort.
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RE: [U2] [AD] Green Screen Dev. Environment

2007-10-05 Thread Tom Dodds
Have you looked at OpenInsight from Revelation Software.  The same people
that have done Advanced Revelation for years.  They now have a product that
will allow the OpenInsight development platform to interface with the U2
database.  This is jointly marketed by Revelation and IBM/U2. This allows
you to keep the green screens where you want them, but do the new
development in a true GUI environment. The report writing abilities are
outstanding and from my experience the response time is more that
acceptable.  You should look into it.

This allows you to keep the same data base, the same subroutines and a lot
of the same programs and fix up the new ones.

I have put the AD in the subject because I know this sounds like and ad.  I
am not a re-seller for OpenInsight although I have done some development
work in the development environment and the U2 interface tool.

Tom Dodds

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Sent: Friday, October 05, 2007 3:21 PM
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Subject: [U2] Green Screen Dev. Environment

Hi list,



I'm researching the types of character based development tools that are
available in the UV environment for screen and report development.
We're cutting/pasting code from our vendors software, which is poorly
coded btw, to create new screens and what not.  It's a mess and I really
want to get away from this practice.

I know we can use gui tools like VS, MV.net, etc, but our transactional
system is all character based and that's what we want to stick with for
the time being.  I know AREV and SB+ are out there, but are there others
that anyone is using that is not 'home grown'?  And if you are using
AREV or SB+ how do you like it?



Thx,



Rudy



Technical Project Lead

Sage Publications

Information Technology Development
(805) 410-7724

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