Re: [U2] Interesting... Unidata VLIST options
But I'm not sure why you'd do that? You can scan the BASIC object code, entirely within Pick BASIC Without recourse to any outside routine at all -Original Message- From: McGowan, Ian To: U2 Users List Sent: Wed, Oct 2, 2013 11:00 am Subject: Re: [U2] Interesting... Unidata VLIST options Po-te-to/Po-ta-to. http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb897439.aspx A unidata VLIST clone would be great, and I've spent a long time looking at object code and can see some patterns, but it's grueling to get going. -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Wjhonson Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2013 10:52 AM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] Interesting... Unidata VLIST options A, my tool was written for use on Windows. -Original Message- From: Dave Davis To: U2 Users List Sent: Wed, Oct 2, 2013 10:49 am Subject: Re: [U2] Interesting... Unidata VLIST options It's a *nix command that shows the displayable characters in a file. -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Wjhonson Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2013 1:46 PM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] Interesting... Unidata VLIST options What is "!strings" ? I have no such command in Universe -Original Message- From: McGowan, Ian To: U2 Users List Sent: Wed, Oct 2, 2013 10:42 am Subject: Re: [U2] Interesting... Unidata VLIST options Changing the subject to not hijack the other thread. Yes, I too have a program that basically does a "strings" command on the object code and either dumps all strings or for each one looks it up in the VOC to check if it's a file. https://github.com/ianmcgowan/PickCode/blob/master/CHECK.FILES -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Wjhonson Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2013 9:46 AM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] Interesting I have to think (and I havent' yet checked) that the names of the files opened will appear within the object code, since they have to be represented as literal strings when they are named. Sure you could pass the name in, but then the program wouldn't know it either, so we're just talking about files where the project itself knows the name of what it's opening. So you can walk the object code, and reconstruct any literal strings within it. In fact I think I have a tool that does that ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Interesting... Unidata VLIST options
Po-te-to/Po-ta-to. http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb897439.aspx A unidata VLIST clone would be great, and I've spent a long time looking at object code and can see some patterns, but it's grueling to get going. -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Wjhonson Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2013 10:52 AM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] Interesting... Unidata VLIST options A, my tool was written for use on Windows. -Original Message- From: Dave Davis To: U2 Users List Sent: Wed, Oct 2, 2013 10:49 am Subject: Re: [U2] Interesting... Unidata VLIST options It's a *nix command that shows the displayable characters in a file. -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Wjhonson Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2013 1:46 PM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] Interesting... Unidata VLIST options What is "!strings" ? I have no such command in Universe -Original Message- From: McGowan, Ian To: U2 Users List Sent: Wed, Oct 2, 2013 10:42 am Subject: Re: [U2] Interesting... Unidata VLIST options Changing the subject to not hijack the other thread. Yes, I too have a program that basically does a "strings" command on the object code and either dumps all strings or for each one looks it up in the VOC to check if it's a file. https://github.com/ianmcgowan/PickCode/blob/master/CHECK.FILES -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Wjhonson Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2013 9:46 AM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] Interesting I have to think (and I havent' yet checked) that the names of the files opened will appear within the object code, since they have to be represented as literal strings when they are named. Sure you could pass the name in, but then the program wouldn't know it either, so we're just talking about files where the project itself knows the name of what it's opening. So you can walk the object code, and reconstruct any literal strings within it. In fact I think I have a tool that does that -Original Message- From: McGowan, Ian To: U2 Users List Sent: Wed, Oct 2, 2013 9:42 am Subject: Re: [U2] Interesting >The use of PORT.STATUS using the "PID" option and "LAYER.STACK" >(>PORT.STATUS PID 123456 LAYER.STACK) > over and over again can show you what hex address in the program your > process is at. I suggest calling this > 50 or 100 times in a row and inspecting the output. Once you have the > hex addresses, use "VLIST" to figure > out what line in the program each address represents. Does anyone have tips for doing the equivalent in Unidata (when you don't have source code, obviously)? I end up using truss or strace to at least see which files are opened/written to, which can be instructive but really hard to follow. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users - IMPORTANT NOTICE: This message is intended only for the addressee and may contain confidential, privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, you may not use, copy or disclose any information contained in the message. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender by reply e-mail and delete the message. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Interesting... Unidata VLIST options
A, my tool was written for use on Windows. -Original Message- From: Dave Davis To: U2 Users List Sent: Wed, Oct 2, 2013 10:49 am Subject: Re: [U2] Interesting... Unidata VLIST options It's a *nix command that shows the displayable characters in a file. -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Wjhonson Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2013 1:46 PM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] Interesting... Unidata VLIST options What is "!strings" ? I have no such command in Universe -Original Message- From: McGowan, Ian To: U2 Users List Sent: Wed, Oct 2, 2013 10:42 am Subject: Re: [U2] Interesting... Unidata VLIST options Changing the subject to not hijack the other thread. Yes, I too have a program that basically does a "strings" command on the object code and either dumps all strings or for each one looks it up in the VOC to check if it's a file. https://github.com/ianmcgowan/PickCode/blob/master/CHECK.FILES -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Wjhonson Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2013 9:46 AM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] Interesting I have to think (and I havent' yet checked) that the names of the files opened will appear within the object code, since they have to be represented as literal strings when they are named. Sure you could pass the name in, but then the program wouldn't know it either, so we're just talking about files where the project itself knows the name of what it's opening. So you can walk the object code, and reconstruct any literal strings within it. In fact I think I have a tool that does that -Original Message- From: McGowan, Ian To: U2 Users List Sent: Wed, Oct 2, 2013 9:42 am Subject: Re: [U2] Interesting >The use of PORT.STATUS using the "PID" option and "LAYER.STACK" >(>PORT.STATUS PID 123456 LAYER.STACK) > over and over again can show you what hex address in the program your > process is at. I suggest calling this > 50 or 100 times in a row and inspecting the output. Once you have the > hex addresses, use "VLIST" to figure > out what line in the program each address represents. Does anyone have tips for doing the equivalent in Unidata (when you don't have source code, obviously)? I end up using truss or strace to at least see which files are opened/written to, which can be instructive but really hard to follow. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Interesting... Unidata VLIST options
It's a *nix command that shows the displayable characters in a file. -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Wjhonson Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2013 1:46 PM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] Interesting... Unidata VLIST options What is "!strings" ? I have no such command in Universe -Original Message- From: McGowan, Ian To: U2 Users List Sent: Wed, Oct 2, 2013 10:42 am Subject: Re: [U2] Interesting... Unidata VLIST options Changing the subject to not hijack the other thread. Yes, I too have a program that basically does a "strings" command on the object code and either dumps all strings or for each one looks it up in the VOC to check if it's a file. https://github.com/ianmcgowan/PickCode/blob/master/CHECK.FILES -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Wjhonson Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2013 9:46 AM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] Interesting I have to think (and I havent' yet checked) that the names of the files opened will appear within the object code, since they have to be represented as literal strings when they are named. Sure you could pass the name in, but then the program wouldn't know it either, so we're just talking about files where the project itself knows the name of what it's opening. So you can walk the object code, and reconstruct any literal strings within it. In fact I think I have a tool that does that -Original Message- From: McGowan, Ian To: U2 Users List Sent: Wed, Oct 2, 2013 9:42 am Subject: Re: [U2] Interesting >The use of PORT.STATUS using the "PID" option and "LAYER.STACK" >(>PORT.STATUS PID 123456 LAYER.STACK) > over and over again can show you what hex address in the program your > process is at. I suggest calling this > 50 or 100 times in a row and inspecting the output. Once you have the > hex addresses, use "VLIST" to figure > out what line in the program each address represents. Does anyone have tips for doing the equivalent in Unidata (when you don't have source code, obviously)? I end up using truss or strace to at least see which files are opened/written to, which can be instructive but really hard to follow. - IMPORTANT NOTICE: This message is intended only for the addressee and may contain confidential, privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, you may not use, copy or disclose any information contained in the message. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender by reply e-mail and delete the message. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users Dave Davis Team Lead, Research & Development P: 614-875-4910 x108 F: 614-875-4088 E: dda...@harriscomputer.com [http://www.harriscomputer.com/images/signatures/HarrisSchools.jpg] [http://www.harriscomputer.com/images/signatures/DivisionofHarris.gif]<http://www.harriscomputer.com/> 6110 Enterprise Parkway Grove City, OH 43123 www.harris-schoolsolutions.com<http://www.harris-schoolsolutions.com> This message is intended exclusively for the individual or entity to which it is addressed. This communication may contain information that is proprietary, privileged or confidential or otherwise legally exempt from disclosure. If you are not the named addressee, you are not authorized to read, print, retain, copy or disseminate this message or any part of it. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by e-mail and delete all copies of the message. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Interesting... Unidata VLIST options
What is "!strings" ? I have no such command in Universe -Original Message- From: McGowan, Ian To: U2 Users List Sent: Wed, Oct 2, 2013 10:42 am Subject: Re: [U2] Interesting... Unidata VLIST options Changing the subject to not hijack the other thread. Yes, I too have a program that basically does a "strings" command on the object code and either dumps all strings or for each one looks it up in the VOC to check if it's a file. https://github.com/ianmcgowan/PickCode/blob/master/CHECK.FILES -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Wjhonson Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2013 9:46 AM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] Interesting I have to think (and I havent' yet checked) that the names of the files opened will appear within the object code, since they have to be represented as literal strings when they are named. Sure you could pass the name in, but then the program wouldn't know it either, so we're just talking about files where the project itself knows the name of what it's opening. So you can walk the object code, and reconstruct any literal strings within it. In fact I think I have a tool that does that -Original Message- From: McGowan, Ian To: U2 Users List Sent: Wed, Oct 2, 2013 9:42 am Subject: Re: [U2] Interesting >The use of PORT.STATUS using the "PID" option and "LAYER.STACK" >(>PORT.STATUS PID 123456 LAYER.STACK) > over and over again can show you what hex address in the program your > process is at. I suggest calling this > 50 or 100 times in a row and inspecting the output. Once you have the > hex addresses, use "VLIST" to figure > out what line in the program each address represents. Does anyone have tips for doing the equivalent in Unidata (when you don't have source code, obviously)? I end up using truss or strace to at least see which files are opened/written to, which can be instructive but really hard to follow. - IMPORTANT NOTICE: This message is intended only for the addressee and may contain confidential, privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, you may not use, copy or disclose any information contained in the message. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender by reply e-mail and delete the message. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Interesting... Unidata VLIST options
Changing the subject to not hijack the other thread. Yes, I too have a program that basically does a "strings" command on the object code and either dumps all strings or for each one looks it up in the VOC to check if it's a file. https://github.com/ianmcgowan/PickCode/blob/master/CHECK.FILES -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Wjhonson Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2013 9:46 AM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] Interesting I have to think (and I havent' yet checked) that the names of the files opened will appear within the object code, since they have to be represented as literal strings when they are named. Sure you could pass the name in, but then the program wouldn't know it either, so we're just talking about files where the project itself knows the name of what it's opening. So you can walk the object code, and reconstruct any literal strings within it. In fact I think I have a tool that does that -Original Message- From: McGowan, Ian To: U2 Users List Sent: Wed, Oct 2, 2013 9:42 am Subject: Re: [U2] Interesting >The use of PORT.STATUS using the "PID" option and "LAYER.STACK" >(>PORT.STATUS PID 123456 LAYER.STACK) > over and over again can show you what hex address in the program your > process is at. I suggest calling this > 50 or 100 times in a row and inspecting the output. Once you have the > hex addresses, use "VLIST" to figure > out what line in the program each address represents. Does anyone have tips for doing the equivalent in Unidata (when you don't have source code, obviously)? I end up using truss or strace to at least see which files are opened/written to, which can be instructive but really hard to follow. - IMPORTANT NOTICE: This message is intended only for the addressee and may contain confidential, privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, you may not use, copy or disclose any information contained in the message. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender by reply e-mail and delete the message. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
