RE: [U2] OT: Unix Version of PR1MOS EDitor

2005-12-13 Thread Keith W. Roberts
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 It's all very well saying vi beats the stuffing out of a line editor,
 but if that's the case I'd rather have the Sheffield Editor
 instead ...
 the problem with vi (or emacs) is that I'm not familiar with
 either, and
 the documentation is (from my point of view) pretty naff.
 Maybe I ought
 to buy the relevant animal book, but ... I'm too used to nice manuals
 coming with programs :-) 

Actually, vim help is awesome.  You do need to get some basics under your
belt before it becomes easy, but there are user guide chapters and a
tutorial to get you started.

But to each their own. :)  The only definition of better which makes sense
is that which improves your comfort-level and productivity.

-Keith

P.S.  That naff is an interesting word ... where's that from?
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Re: [U2] OT: Unix Version of PR1MOS EDitor

2005-12-10 Thread Anthony W. Youngman
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Keith W. Roberts 
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Original Message
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I had to blow the dust off my old copy of the Hacker's Guide to the
Prime to remind myself about the Primos ED command. Dare I ask why
you would want to find a Unix equivalent?

I'll bet he is longing for the GMODIFY  commands within ED! ---


ABSOULTELY CORRECT


Good grief!  Why work so hard?  Use vim (vi), or even sed or awk if all you
want is the gmodify. :)


Maybe he's not familiar with those commands?


Seriously, even the most primitive features of vi beat the stuffing out of a
line editor (even Pr1me's ED, which is admittedly the best line editor I
ever ran into).

It's all very well saying vi beats the stuffing out of a line editor, 
but if that's the case I'd rather have the Sheffield Editor instead ... 
the problem with vi (or emacs) is that I'm not familiar with either, and 
the documentation is (from my point of view) pretty naff. Maybe I ought 
to buy the relevant animal book, but ... I'm too used to nice manuals 
coming with programs :-)


I don't know if it made its way abroad, but it was very popular over 
here. Fully (well, almost) with ED, but full screen as well (I found an 
incompatibility between the two, oddly enough in the way GModify 
worked!)


I wish I could get a copy of it, but it was written in Pascal and they 
dropped it ages ago. Gave the source away to anybody who would pay for 
it and said thank you, end of support, bye-bye :-(


Cheers,
Wol
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[U2] OT: Unix Version of PR1MOS EDitor

2005-12-08 Thread Denny Watkins
We are running UniVerse release 9.6.2.5 under IBM AIX 4.3.3 on an IBM F50.

Since there are still some us around who used PR1ME computers
and PR1ME Information, I'll direct this question mainly to them.

Does anyone know of any software for Unix which is compatible
with the old PR1MOS Editor?

I have a version of some software written by Greg Field who was with
Computervision and then with Sun Computer in Australia.  He wrote a
program which was 99% compatible with the PR1ME EDitor.  I've lost
track of Greg and have been unable to contact him.  If anyone knows
Greg's whereabouts any information would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,


Denny Watkins
Director Computer Services
Morningside College
1501 Morningside Ave
Sioux City, Ia 51106-1717

Phone:  1-712-274-5250

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Re: [U2] OT: Unix Version of PR1MOS EDitor

2005-12-08 Thread Martin Phillips
Hi Denny,

 Does anyone know of any software for Unix which is compatible
 with the old PR1MOS Editor?

I had to blow the dust off my old copy of the Hacker's Guide to the Prime
to remind myself about the Primos ED command. Dare I ask why you would want
to find a Unix equivalent?


Martin Phillips
Ladybridge Systems
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Re: [U2] OT: Unix Version of PR1MOS EDitor

2005-12-08 Thread aegerton
From: Martin Phillips [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 12:32 PM
Subject: Re: [U2] OT: Unix Version of PR1MOS EDitor


 Hi Denny,

  Does anyone know of any software for Unix which is compatible
  with the old PR1MOS Editor?

 I had to blow the dust off my old copy of the Hacker's Guide to the
Prime
 to remind myself about the Primos ED command. Dare I ask why you would
want
 to find a Unix equivalent?

(Piggybacking 'cause I haven't seen the original)

Since this is posted to the U2 list, I'm making the gross assumption that
the original poster is running Universe or Unidata, in which case the EDitor
within the U2 DBMS can be used on *nix flat files.

Probably a bad assumption on my part.
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Re: [U2] OT: Unix Version of PR1MOS EDitor

2005-12-08 Thread Drew Henderson

Hey Denny,

Do you need it because of familiarity with the Primos editor, or do you 
have software that makes use of it?


Drew

Denny Watkins wrote:


We are running UniVerse release 9.6.2.5 under IBM AIX 4.3.3 on an IBM F50.

Since there are still some us around who used PR1ME computers
and PR1ME Information, I'll direct this question mainly to them.

Does anyone know of any software for Unix which is compatible
with the old PR1MOS Editor?

I have a version of some software written by Greg Field who was with
Computervision and then with Sun Computer in Australia.  He wrote a
program which was 99% compatible with the PR1ME EDitor.  I've lost
track of Greg and have been unable to contact him.  If anyone knows
Greg's whereabouts any information would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,


Denny Watkins
Director Computer Services
Morningside College
1501 Morningside Ave
Sioux City, Ia 51106-1717

Phone:  1-712-274-5250

Email:   mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED]  
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Re: [U2] OT: Unix Version of PR1MOS EDitor

2005-12-08 Thread Richard A. Wilson

you can try [EMAIL PROTECTED] perhaps Randy has something

aegerton wrote:


From: Martin Phillips [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 12:32 PM
Subject: Re: [U2] OT: Unix Version of PR1MOS EDitor




Hi Denny,



Does anyone know of any software for Unix which is compatible
with the old PR1MOS Editor?


I had to blow the dust off my old copy of the Hacker's Guide to the


Prime


to remind myself about the Primos ED command. Dare I ask why you would


want


to find a Unix equivalent?



(Piggybacking 'cause I haven't seen the original)

Since this is posted to the U2 list, I'm making the gross assumption that
the original poster is running Universe or Unidata, in which case the EDitor
within the U2 DBMS can be used on *nix flat files.

Probably a bad assumption on my part.
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Re: [U2] OT: Unix Version of PR1MOS EDitor

2005-12-08 Thread Ron Hutchings

Does anyone know of any software for Unix which is compatible
with the old PR1MOS Editor?


I had to blow the dust off my old copy of the Hacker's Guide to the Prime
to remind myself about the Primos ED command. Dare I ask why you would want
to find a Unix equivalent?

I'll bet he is longing for the GMODIFY  commands within ED!
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Re: [U2] OT: Unix Version of PR1MOS EDitor

2005-12-08 Thread Jerry Banker
I wouldn't mind having it either. There were some options in the Prime 
Editor that are not in the UV editor. One was the ability to overwrite part 
of a line, another was the ability to do appends to more than one line, and 
the G options.

I use to have a DOS version of the program but I lost it over the years.

- Original Message - 
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Subject: Re: [U2] OT: Unix Version of PR1MOS EDitor



Hey Denny,

Do you need it because of familiarity with the Primos editor, or do you 
have software that makes use of it?


Drew

Denny Watkins wrote:


We are running UniVerse release 9.6.2.5 under IBM AIX 4.3.3 on an IBM F50.

Since there are still some us around who used PR1ME computers
and PR1ME Information, I'll direct this question mainly to them.

Does anyone know of any software for Unix which is compatible
with the old PR1MOS Editor?

I have a version of some software written by Greg Field who was with
Computervision and then with Sun Computer in Australia.  He wrote a
program which was 99% compatible with the PR1ME EDitor.  I've lost
track of Greg and have been unable to contact him.  If anyone knows
Greg's whereabouts any information would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,


Denny Watkins
Director Computer Services
Morningside College
1501 Morningside Ave
Sioux City, Ia 51106-1717

Phone:  1-712-274-5250

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Re: [U2] OT: Unix Version of PR1MOS EDitor

2005-12-08 Thread Denny Watkins

ABSOULTELY CORRECT


At 01:18 PM 12/8/2005 -0600, you wrote:

Does anyone know of any software for Unix which is compatible
with the old PR1MOS Editor?

I had to blow the dust off my old copy of the Hacker's Guide to the Prime
to remind myself about the Primos ED command. Dare I ask why you would want
to find a Unix equivalent?

I'll bet he is longing for the GMODIFY  commands within ED!
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Re: [U2] OT: Unix Version of PR1MOS EDitor

2005-12-08 Thread Denny Watkins

Hey Drew,

Both.

Denny

At 11:51 AM 12/8/2005 -0500, you wrote:

Hey Denny,

Do you need it because of familiarity with the Primos editor, or do you
have software that makes use of it?

Drew

Denny Watkins wrote:

We are running UniVerse release 9.6.2.5 under IBM AIX 4.3.3 on an IBM F50.

Since there are still some us around who used PR1ME computers
and PR1ME Information, I'll direct this question mainly to them.

Does anyone know of any software for Unix which is compatible
with the old PR1MOS Editor?

I have a version of some software written by Greg Field who was with
Computervision and then with Sun Computer in Australia.  He wrote a
program which was 99% compatible with the PR1ME EDitor.  I've lost
track of Greg and have been unable to contact him.  If anyone knows
Greg's whereabouts any information would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,


Denny Watkins
Director Computer Services
Morningside College
1501 Morningside Ave
Sioux City, Ia 51106-1717

Phone:  1-712-274-5250

Email:   mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: [U2] OT: Unix Version of PR1MOS EDitor

2005-12-08 Thread Dawn Wolthuis
On 12/8/05, Martin Phillips [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi Denny,

  Does anyone know of any software for Unix which is compatible
  with the old PR1MOS Editor?

 I had to blow the dust off my old copy of the Hacker's Guide to the
 Prime
 to remind myself about the Primos ED command. Dare I ask why you would
 want
 to find a Unix equivalent?


I'm hoping it is for GMOD commands.  smiles.  --dawn

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RE: [U2] OT: Unix Version of PR1MOS EDitor

2005-12-08 Thread Keith W. Roberts
Original Message
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Denny Watkins
Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 11:51 AM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: Re: [U2] OT: Unix Version of PR1MOS EDitor

 I had to blow the dust off my old copy of the Hacker's Guide to the
 Prime to remind myself about the Primos ED command. Dare I ask why
 you would want to find a Unix equivalent? 
 
 I'll bet he is longing for the GMODIFY  commands within ED! ---

 ABSOULTELY CORRECT

Good grief!  Why work so hard?  Use vim (vi), or even sed or awk if all you
want is the gmodify. :)

Seriously, even the most primitive features of vi beat the stuffing out of a
line editor (even Pr1me's ED, which is admittedly the best line editor I
ever ran into).

-Keith
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