Re: [U2] Pick history video on youtube
Brilliant video, I have the UK version on VHS somewhere. It was introduced and narrated by Tony Bastable. Lee Bacall wrote: John, Susan Many thanks for that video. It sounds like the narrator is Hunter S. Thompson . http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hunter_S._Thompson Anyone know for sure? GREAT piece that most of us missed seeing. Lee Bacall - Original Message - From: Susan Joslyn sjos...@sjplus.com To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Friday, November 11, 2011 7:48 AM Subject: [U2] Pick history video on youtube Oh em gee, how did I never see this before? This is fantastic - very well done and quite informative. I would think that this would be a great sales tool to this day. Don't miss it - it is actually at: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ms0yvJAUAk Susan Message: 13 Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2011 14:37:34 -0800 From: John Hester jhes...@momtex.com To: U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] [semi-ot] JE Sisk basic book on the eBay Message-ID: e6179e13392ec14aabcd5272c3aedd6116b3c...@exchangesvr.momtex.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Since this thread is already labeled semi-ot, thought I'd throw this out there: http://wn.com/Dick_Pick It's a Pick Systems marketing video from 1990 that someone posted to YouTube. Might be interesting for anyone new to Pick and curious about its origins. I enjoyed it purely for nostalgia. -John ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users - Nobody ever lends money to a man with a sense of humour. -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/Pick-history-video-on-youtube-tp32825410p32849130.html Sent from the U2 - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Pick history video on youtube
John, Susan Many thanks for that video. It sounds like the narrator is Hunter S. Thompson . http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hunter_S._Thompson Anyone know for sure? GREAT piece that most of us missed seeing. Lee Bacall - Original Message - From: Susan Joslyn sjos...@sjplus.com To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Friday, November 11, 2011 7:48 AM Subject: [U2] Pick history video on youtube Oh em gee, how did I never see this before? This is fantastic - very well done and quite informative. I would think that this would be a great sales tool to this day. Don't miss it - it is actually at: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ms0yvJAUAk Susan Message: 13 Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2011 14:37:34 -0800 From: John Hester jhes...@momtex.com To: U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] [semi-ot] JE Sisk basic book on the eBay Message-ID: e6179e13392ec14aabcd5272c3aedd6116b3c...@exchangesvr.momtex.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Since this thread is already labeled semi-ot, thought I'd throw this out there: http://wn.com/Dick_Pick It's a Pick Systems marketing video from 1990 that someone posted to YouTube. Might be interesting for anyone new to Pick and curious about its origins. I enjoyed it purely for nostalgia. -John ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Pick history video on youtube
And for people who already bought a Pick system so many years ago... https://www.facebook.com/PickBook From: Susan Joslyn I would think that this would be a great sales tool to this day. Don't miss it - it is actually at: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ms0yvJAUAk Date:John Hester http://wn.com/Dick_Pick It's a Pick Systems marketing video from 1990 that someone posted to YouTube. Might be interesting for anyone new to Pick and curious about its origins. I enjoyed it purely for nostalgia. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
[U2] Pick history video on youtube
Oh em gee, how did I never see this before? This is fantastic - very well done and quite informative. I would think that this would be a great sales tool to this day. Don't miss it - it is actually at: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ms0yvJAUAk Susan Message: 13 Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2011 14:37:34 -0800 From: John Hester jhes...@momtex.com To: U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] [semi-ot] JE Sisk basic book on the eBay Message-ID: e6179e13392ec14aabcd5272c3aedd6116b3c...@exchangesvr.momtex.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Since this thread is already labeled semi-ot, thought I'd throw this out there: http://wn.com/Dick_Pick It's a Pick Systems marketing video from 1990 that someone posted to YouTube. Might be interesting for anyone new to Pick and curious about its origins. I enjoyed it purely for nostalgia. -John ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Pick History
Only 20 minutes!? How many times did he say Orthogonal? The best part of comp.databases.pick was teasing meaning from Henry's posts. It was always worth the effort, but often required a dictionary ;-) -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Jon Sisk Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 9:16 AM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] Pick History Henry Eggers says no connection. It came later.. Bear in mind it took him nearly 20 minutes to say this. Best regards, Jon Sisk Charles_Shaffer wrote: Cleaning out the old room where everything computer related gets sent to. Came across a book on a programming language called PL/I. Just taking a quick look, I saw some familiar statements like CONVERT, PROC, INPUT, CHAR, PRINT, FORMAT, LIKE, LOCATE. Is this coincidence, or was PL/I part of the early days of Pick? Apparently PL/I came into use in the 1960s around the time Pick was developed. Charles Shaffer Senior Analyst NTN-Bower Corporation ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users - http://jes.com On-demand 1 on 1 private training for all MultiValue platforms and languages. -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/Pick-History-tp30809278p30818137.html Sent from the U2 - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Pick History
In Henry speak, 20-30 minutes is about average for questions of a binary nature. How many times he said Orthogonal is Orthogonal to the answer. Only 20 minutes!? How many times did he say Orthogonal? The best part of comp.databases.pick was teasing meaning from Henry's posts. It was always worth the effort, but often required a dictionary ;-) - http://jes.com On-demand 1 on 1 private training for all MultiValue platforms and languages. -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/Pick-History-tp30809278p30868474.html Sent from the U2 - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Pick History
Henry Eggers says no connection. It came later.. Bear in mind it took him nearly 20 minutes to say this. Best regards, Jon Sisk Charles_Shaffer wrote: Cleaning out the old room where everything computer related gets sent to. Came across a book on a programming language called PL/I. Just taking a quick look, I saw some familiar statements like CONVERT, PROC, INPUT, CHAR, PRINT, FORMAT, LIKE, LOCATE. Is this coincidence, or was PL/I part of the early days of Pick? Apparently PL/I came into use in the 1960s around the time Pick was developed. Charles Shaffer Senior Analyst NTN-Bower Corporation ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users - http://jes.com On-demand 1 on 1 private training for all MultiValue platforms and languages. -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/Pick-History-tp30809278p30818137.html Sent from the U2 - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Pick History
Jon Sisk, You would know if anyone would. Was there any connection between PL/I and early PICK? Charles Shaffer Senior Analyst NTN-Bower Corporation ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Pick History
Well thanks for the vote of confidence, but I went to a deeper well on this one. Henry says no connection. Cheers, j. Charles_Shaffer wrote: Jon Sisk, You would know if anyone would. Was there any connection between PL/I and early PICK? Charles Shaffer Senior Analyst NTN-Bower Corporation ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users - http://jes.com On-demand 1 on 1 private training for all MultiValue platforms and languages. -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/Pick-History-tp30809278p30823543.html Sent from the U2 - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
[U2] Pick History
Cleaning out the old room where everything computer related gets sent to. Came across a book on a programming language called PL/I. Just taking a quick look, I saw some familiar statements like CONVERT, PROC, INPUT, CHAR, PRINT, FORMAT, LIKE, LOCATE. Is this coincidence, or was PL/I part of the early days of Pick? Apparently PL/I came into use in the 1960s around the time Pick was developed. Charles Shaffer Senior Analyst NTN-Bower Corporation ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Pick History
naw. PL/I was an IBM creation. See wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PL/I On Jan 31, 2011, at 11:47 AM, charles_shaf...@ntn-bower.com wrote: Cleaning out the old room where everything computer related gets sent to. Came across a book on a programming language called PL/I. Just taking a quick look, I saw some familiar statements like CONVERT, PROC, INPUT, CHAR, PRINT, FORMAT, LIKE, LOCATE. Is this coincidence, or was PL/I part of the early days of Pick? Apparently PL/I came into use in the 1960s around the time Pick was developed. Charles Shaffer Senior Analyst NTN-Bower Corporation ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Pick History
I don't know of any connection between the languages of PICK and PL/1 other than the timing. The similar terms would make sense because they were the words of the industry (some coming from Fortran, for example). MV BASIC stemmed from Data/BASIC which also took some terms from Fortran. I do not know if Nelson or others at TRW involved at the start of PICK had seen PL/1, but it is likely that someone would have at least taken a look by 1969 when I think perhaps the first PICK app went live? FWIW I converted one PL/1 program on a UNIVAC to COBOL on an IBM 3081 in about 1983 IIRC. I don't think of folks migrating from PL/1 to Pick, but would be curious if anyone did. --dawn On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 10:47 AM, charles_shaf...@ntn-bower.com wrote: Cleaning out the old room where everything computer related gets sent to. Came across a book on a programming language called PL/I. Just taking a quick look, I saw some familiar statements like CONVERT, PROC, INPUT, CHAR, PRINT, FORMAT, LIKE, LOCATE. Is this coincidence, or was PL/I part of the early days of Pick? Apparently PL/I came into use in the 1960s around the time Pick was developed. Charles Shaffer Senior Analyst NTN-Bower Corporation ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users -- Dawn M. Wolthuis Take and give some delight today ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Pick History
And you think that PICK wasn't? OK, OK, it was originally TRW, but running on IBM hardware (IBM 7090) and IBM was certainly in the mix for getting from Nelson's flow charts to an actual implementation. But, yes, you are right that the languages were developed by different companies. cheers! --dawn On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 11:21 AM, Ed Clark u...@edclark.net wrote: naw. PL/I was an IBM creation. See wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PL/I On Jan 31, 2011, at 11:47 AM, charles_shaf...@ntn-bower.com wrote: Cleaning out the old room where everything computer related gets sent to. Came across a book on a programming language called PL/I. Just taking a quick look, I saw some familiar statements like CONVERT, PROC, INPUT, CHAR, PRINT, FORMAT, LIKE, LOCATE. Is this coincidence, or was PL/I part of the early days of Pick? Apparently PL/I came into use in the 1960s around the time Pick was developed. Charles Shaffer Senior Analyst NTN-Bower Corporation ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users -- Dawn M. Wolthuis Take and give some delight today ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Pick History
It might be fun to try and make a list of things that IBM *didn't* have a hand in or influence on, or even only just accidentally handle for a while (like U2) :) It would be like trying to rewrite The Lord of the Rings without Sauron (Or maybe more like rewriting The Silmarillion without Morgoth. I think Microsoft is more Sauron and Apple is quickly following Saruman's errors, but that's conversation for different mailing list). Anyway, PL/I was IBM's one programming language to rule them all (Programming Language/One) You could maybe make an indirect connection between PL/I and Pick. Stratus computer's multics-based VOS operating system was written mostly in PL/I. So some of their version of PICK OA was probably written in PL/I as well. From inside of Stratus Pick you could call out to PL/I transaction processing code. On Jan 31, 2011, at 1:34 PM, Dawn Wolthuis wrote: And you think that PICK wasn't? OK, OK, it was originally TRW, but running on IBM hardware (IBM 7090) and IBM was certainly in the mix for getting from Nelson's flow charts to an actual implementation. But, yes, you are right that the languages were developed by different companies. cheers! --dawn On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 11:21 AM, Ed Clark u...@edclark.net wrote: naw. PL/I was an IBM creation. See wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PL/I On Jan 31, 2011, at 11:47 AM, charles_shaf...@ntn-bower.com wrote: Cleaning out the old room where everything computer related gets sent to. Came across a book on a programming language called PL/I. Just taking a quick look, I saw some familiar statements like CONVERT, PROC, INPUT, CHAR, PRINT, FORMAT, LIKE, LOCATE. Is this coincidence, or was PL/I part of the early days of Pick? Apparently PL/I came into use in the 1960s around the time Pick was developed. Charles Shaffer Senior Analyst NTN-Bower Corporation ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users -- Dawn M. Wolthuis Take and give some delight today ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Pick History
I note that PrimOS written by Prime was done in later iterations in PL/1. Projects like UV/UD and others originated on Prime. I think it's likely that some knowledge of PL/I existed. Clive ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
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Good tidbit re Stratus. That's cool that you could call PL/I (thanks for the correction, I thought it was PL/1) from within Pick. Yes, I recall Multics was written in PL/I (and of course googling confirms that). You are right that when it comes to the history of computing, IBM has had their hands in a whole lot of it. [They seem so on the periphery of anything I'm interested in right now, so I will be curious to see what they care about in the coming years. I'm wondering what they will do with NoSQL directions (Oracle has BerkeleyDB, for example, but IBM seems short on this front now). I haven't been following IBM of late, however.] cheers! --dawn On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 1:32 PM, Ed Clark u...@edclark.net wrote: It might be fun to try and make a list of things that IBM *didn't* have a hand in or influence on, or even only just accidentally handle for a while (like U2) :) It would be like trying to rewrite The Lord of the Rings without Sauron (Or maybe more like rewriting The Silmarillion without Morgoth. I think Microsoft is more Sauron and Apple is quickly following Saruman's errors, but that's conversation for different mailing list). Anyway, PL/I was IBM's one programming language to rule them all (Programming Language/One) You could maybe make an indirect connection between PL/I and Pick. Stratus computer's multics-based VOS operating system was written mostly in PL/I. So some of their version of PICK OA was probably written in PL/I as well. From inside of Stratus Pick you could call out to PL/I transaction processing code. On Jan 31, 2011, at 1:34 PM, Dawn Wolthuis wrote: And you think that PICK wasn't? OK, OK, it was originally TRW, but running on IBM hardware (IBM 7090) and IBM was certainly in the mix for getting from Nelson's flow charts to an actual implementation. But, yes, you are right that the languages were developed by different companies. cheers! --dawn On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 11:21 AM, Ed Clark u...@edclark.net wrote: naw. PL/I was an IBM creation. See wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PL/I On Jan 31, 2011, at 11:47 AM, charles_shaf...@ntn-bower.com wrote: Cleaning out the old room where everything computer related gets sent to. Came across a book on a programming language called PL/I. Just taking a quick look, I saw some familiar statements like CONVERT, PROC, INPUT, CHAR, PRINT, FORMAT, LIKE, LOCATE. Is this coincidence, or was PL/I part of the early days of Pick? Apparently PL/I came into use in the 1960s around the time Pick was developed. Charles Shaffer Senior Analyst NTN-Bower Corporation ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users -- Dawn M. Wolthuis Take and give some delight today ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users -- Dawn M. Wolthuis Take and give some delight today ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Pick History
PrimeOS was originally written in Fortran (then later I thought it was C -- was it PL/I?) --dawn On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 2:52 PM, Clive Hills discordia...@gmail.com wrote: I note that PrimOS written by Prime was done in later iterations in PL/1. Projects like UV/UD and others originated on Prime. I think it's likely that some knowledge of PL/I existed. Clive ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users -- Dawn M. Wolthuis Take and give some delight today ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Pick History
It was mostly PL/I later. Re your earlier post I see Northgate are now actively marketed Reality as a NOSQL database with added SQL! Clive ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
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Groovy! Thanks for passing that along. --dawn On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 3:52 PM, Clive Hills discordia...@gmail.com wrote: It was mostly PL/I later. Re your earlier post I see Northgate are now actively marketed Reality as a NOSQL database with added SQL! Clive ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users -- Dawn M. Wolthuis Take and give some delight today ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Pick History
On 31/01/11 21:25, Dawn Wolthuis wrote: PrimeOS was originally written in Fortran (then later I thought it was C -- was it PL/I?) --dawn As someone (as a customer) who dabbled in this stuff, the original versions of Primos were written in FORTRAN - which is why all Primes came with FTN included. I'm not sure at what point (before my time, probably the switch from the 100 series to the 50 series, rev 15?), new stuff was written in PL/1. Condition handling was well entrenched in Primos by the time I knew it, and that came straight out of PL/1. Much better than C++'s exception throwing, imho. But all the PL/1 code in Primos was written to compile with either PLP or SPL (their two subsets of PL/1), and again the compilers were provided free with Primos. I think it was SPL I used to write my code, that I gave to Prime. I don't remember ever seeing it appear as part of Primos though :-) I think the C code only really started to appear with the 386/MIPS boxes that ran Unix, about the time of rev 21 or 22. Certainly I don't remember hearing about any C code in rev 19, which was a *major* change from 18 before it. I never knew of Primos coming with a C compiler. Cheers, Wol On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 2:52 PM, Clive Hills discordia...@gmail.com wrote: I note that PrimOS written by Prime was done in later iterations in PL/1. Projects like UV/UD and others originated on Prime. I think it's likely that some knowledge of PL/I existed. Clive ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
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OK, that makes sense. I was in the Pr1me world until I moved to the IBM mainframe world in the early 80's then back to Primos as a manager in the late 80's, so the move to PL/1 was off my radar. Thanks for clarifying. --dawn On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 5:36 PM, Wols Lists antli...@youngman.org.uk wrote: On 31/01/11 21:25, Dawn Wolthuis wrote: PrimeOS was originally written in Fortran (then later I thought it was C -- was it PL/I?) --dawn As someone (as a customer) who dabbled in this stuff, the original versions of Primos were written in FORTRAN - which is why all Primes came with FTN included. I'm not sure at what point (before my time, probably the switch from the 100 series to the 50 series, rev 15?), new stuff was written in PL/1. Condition handling was well entrenched in Primos by the time I knew it, and that came straight out of PL/1. Much better than C++'s exception throwing, imho. But all the PL/1 code in Primos was written to compile with either PLP or SPL (their two subsets of PL/1), and again the compilers were provided free with Primos. I think it was SPL I used to write my code, that I gave to Prime. I don't remember ever seeing it appear as part of Primos though :-) I think the C code only really started to appear with the 386/MIPS boxes that ran Unix, about the time of rev 21 or 22. Certainly I don't remember hearing about any C code in rev 19, which was a *major* change from 18 before it. I never knew of Primos coming with a C compiler. Cheers, Wol On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 2:52 PM, Clive Hills discordia...@gmail.com wrote: I note that PrimOS written by Prime was done in later iterations in PL/1. Projects like UV/UD and others originated on Prime. I think it's likely that some knowledge of PL/I existed. Clive ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users -- Dawn M. Wolthuis Take and give some delight today ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Pick History
Dawn there's a whole new career writing The History of Each Bleeping Language Element or something like that. Who came up with the idea that LOCATE meant... find a string in this string. Who came up with the idea that ! meant NOT And in what languages did all of these occur? Can we actually trace all of the Y-DNA strings back fifty years. For many eons I had my old Fortran 77 book lying about, probably right next to QuickBasic and DOS Basic. They might even still be here, buried under two feet of dust. Will -Original Message- From: Dawn Wolthuis dw...@tincat-group.com To: U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Mon, Jan 31, 2011 1:25 pm Subject: Re: [U2] Pick History PrimeOS was originally written in Fortran (then later I thought it was C -- was it PL/I?) --dawn On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 2:52 PM, Clive Hills discordia...@gmail.com wrote: I note that PrimOS written by Prime was done in later iterations in PL/1. Projects like UV/UD and others originated on Prime. I think it's likely that some knowledge of PL/I existed. Clive ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users -- Dawn M. Wolthuis Take and give some delight today ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
