Re: [U2] RE: Switching from D3 to U2
Actually, what was the VAR's reason for switching. One of my client's VAR's forced a switch from UV to UD around 9 years ago when they went from a green-screen app to having rewritten their package with SB. Not SB GUI but regular SB. SB GUI came later for those newer clients. Thanks Mark Johnson - Original Message - From: Norman Morgan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 10:13 AM Subject: RE: [U2] RE: Switching from D3 to U2 -Original Message- From: MAJ So what's the number one reason for switching from D3 to U2? Not to create an onslaught of replies, but I've worked on many MV platforms and have my opinions on each. Because our VAR told use they wouldn't support their product on D3 any longer. grin === Norman Morgan [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.brake.com === Real programmers don't document. Documentation is for simps who can't read the listings or the object deck. === --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2] RE: Switching from D3 to U2
I can't speak authoritatively for Prelude (Activant), but I suspect they more or less followed where SB+ went. They made a tremendous effort to convert their whole application from all legacy code to SB+ about 13 years ago. Perhaps it was general fear for the future of D3, perhaps it was fear that SB+ would cease to be supported on D3, or perhaps since IBM owned the whole mess and they were IBM business partners, they thought it was the prudent thing to do. From our standpoint, we were happy with D3. It did everything we needed and I really liked FlashConnect for web connectivity. But we were about 3 major versions behind on the Prelude application code and wanted some of the newer features. When Prelude said they would not support the newer versions on D3, we were forced to switch. Conversion by coercion. === Norman Morgan [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.brake.com === Orville Wright didn't have a pilot's license. === -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MAJ Programming Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 8:14 AM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] RE: Switching from D3 to U2 Actually, what was the VAR's reason for switching. One of my client's VAR's forced a switch from UV to UD around 9 years ago when they went from a green-screen app to having rewritten their package with SB. Not SB GUI but regular SB. SB GUI came later for those newer clients. Thanks Mark Johnson - Original Message - From: Norman Morgan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 10:13 AM Subject: RE: [U2] RE: Switching from D3 to U2 -Original Message- From: MAJ So what's the number one reason for switching from D3 to U2? Not to create an onslaught of replies, but I've worked on many MV platforms and have my opinions on each. Because our VAR told use they wouldn't support their product on D3 any longer. grin === Norman Morgan [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.brake.com === Real programmers don't document. Documentation is for simps who can't read the listings or the object deck. === --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2] RE: Switching from D3 to U2
-Original Message- From: MAJ So what's the number one reason for switching from D3 to U2? Not to create an onslaught of replies, but I've worked on many MV platforms and have my opinions on each. Because our VAR told use they wouldn't support their product on D3 any longer. grin === Norman Morgan [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.brake.com === Real programmers don't document. Documentation is for simps who can't read the listings or the object deck. === --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
Re: [U2] RE: Switching from D3 to U2
Doesn't sound like a real useful reason for the rest of us. Thanks Mark Johnson - Original Message - From: Norman Morgan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 10:13 AM Subject: RE: [U2] RE: Switching from D3 to U2 -Original Message- From: MAJ So what's the number one reason for switching from D3 to U2? Not to create an onslaught of replies, but I've worked on many MV platforms and have my opinions on each. Because our VAR told use they wouldn't support their product on D3 any longer. grin === Norman Morgan [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.brake.com === Real programmers don't document. Documentation is for simps who can't read the listings or the object deck. === --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2] RE: Switching from D3 to U2
From: MAJ So what's the number one reason for switching from D3 to U2? Not to create an onslaught of replies, but I've worked on many MV platforms and have my opinions on each. Might be best to just wait for George to put his notes together and post for everyone later... --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
Re: [U2] RE: Switching from D3 to U2
I have had a number of responses directly as well as to the group, I'll be putting together a document on it and will look at publishing it. But if anyone specifically wants a copy please let me know and I'll email it when I have it. george.land@ (remove) u2uk.com George Land APT Solutions Limited IBM U2 UK Distributor www.u2uk.com On 01/02/2008 00:26, MAJ Programming [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I too am interested in this comparison. The majority of my clients are D3 yet I have 1 or 2 UV and UD clients, hence the straddling. I know that U2 products have many more technical features but I would like to see where it gets admin heavy versus D3. Thanks Mark Johnson - Original Message - From: Janet Bond [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 12:26 PM Subject: [U2] RE: Switching from D3 to U2 Hello George, We created a report comparing D3 and the U2 products along with other available MultiValue databases for one of our customers. Please email me directly and I can provide this content to you. Thanks Janet Bond FusionWare Corporation IBM Premier Business Partner Microsoft Gold Partner www.fusionware.net -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of George Land Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 5:30 AM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: [U2] Switching from D3 to U2 I am in the process of putting together a document to support the case for switching an application from D3 to U2 but my knowledge of D3 is a little old and hazy. Has anyone any product or technical justifications for switching over that they would be willing to share? Thanks George Land APT Solutions Limited IBM U2 UK Distributor www.u2uk.com ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify us immediately on +44 (01952) 214000 or at [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Please delete and destroy any copies in any format of this email you may have received in error. The recipient should note that the views contained or expressed within this correspondence do not necessarily reflect those of APT Solutions Limited , it subsidiaries, affiliates or associates. This email and any attachments are not guaranteed to be free from so-called computer viruses and it is recommended that you check for such viruses before down-loading it to your computer equipment. It is the responsibility of the recipient to ensure that the onward transmission, opening or use of this message or any attachments will not adversely affect their systems or data. Registered Office:- Stratum House, Stafford Park 10, Telford, Shropshire, TF3 3AB Registration Number:- 2228445 Place of Registration: England Wales ** --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
Re: [U2] RE: Switching from D3 to U2
So what's the number one reason for switching from D3 to U2? Not to create an onslaught of replies, but I've worked on many MV platforms and have my opinions on each. Thanks Mark Johnson - Original Message - From: George Land [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Friday, February 01, 2008 12:22 PM Subject: Re: [U2] RE: Switching from D3 to U2 I have had a number of responses directly as well as to the group, I'll be putting together a document on it and will look at publishing it. But if anyone specifically wants a copy please let me know and I'll email it when I have it. george.land@ (remove) u2uk.com George Land APT Solutions Limited IBM U2 UK Distributor www.u2uk.com On 01/02/2008 00:26, MAJ Programming [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I too am interested in this comparison. The majority of my clients are D3 yet I have 1 or 2 UV and UD clients, hence the straddling. I know that U2 products have many more technical features but I would like to see where it gets admin heavy versus D3. Thanks Mark Johnson - Original Message - From: Janet Bond [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 12:26 PM Subject: [U2] RE: Switching from D3 to U2 Hello George, We created a report comparing D3 and the U2 products along with other available MultiValue databases for one of our customers. Please email me directly and I can provide this content to you. Thanks Janet Bond FusionWare Corporation IBM Premier Business Partner Microsoft Gold Partner www.fusionware.net -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of George Land Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 5:30 AM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: [U2] Switching from D3 to U2 I am in the process of putting together a document to support the case for switching an application from D3 to U2 but my knowledge of D3 is a little old and hazy. Has anyone any product or technical justifications for switching over that they would be willing to share? Thanks George Land APT Solutions Limited IBM U2 UK Distributor www.u2uk.com ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify us immediately on +44 (01952) 214000 or at [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Please delete and destroy any copies in any format of this email you may have received in error. The recipient should note that the views contained or expressed within this correspondence do not necessarily reflect those of APT Solutions Limited , it subsidiaries, affiliates or associates. This email and any attachments are not guaranteed to be free from so-called computer viruses and it is recommended that you check for such viruses before down-loading it to your computer equipment. It is the responsibility of the recipient to ensure that the onward transmission, opening or use of this message or any attachments will not adversely affect their systems or data. Registered Office:- Stratum House, Stafford Park 10, Telford, Shropshire, TF3 3AB Registration Number:- 2228445 Place of Registration: England Wales ** --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
Re: [U2] RE: Switching from D3 to U2
I too am interested in this comparison. The majority of my clients are D3 yet I have 1 or 2 UV and UD clients, hence the straddling. I know that U2 products have many more technical features but I would like to see where it gets admin heavy versus D3. Thanks Mark Johnson - Original Message - From: Janet Bond [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 12:26 PM Subject: [U2] RE: Switching from D3 to U2 Hello George, We created a report comparing D3 and the U2 products along with other available MultiValue databases for one of our customers. Please email me directly and I can provide this content to you. Thanks Janet Bond FusionWare Corporation IBM Premier Business Partner Microsoft Gold Partner www.fusionware.net -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of George Land Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 5:30 AM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: [U2] Switching from D3 to U2 I am in the process of putting together a document to support the case for switching an application from D3 to U2 but my knowledge of D3 is a little old and hazy. Has anyone any product or technical justifications for switching over that they would be willing to share? Thanks George Land APT Solutions Limited IBM U2 UK Distributor www.u2uk.com ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify us immediately on +44 (01952) 214000 or at [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Please delete and destroy any copies in any format of this email you may have received in error. The recipient should note that the views contained or expressed within this correspondence do not necessarily reflect those of APT Solutions Limited , it subsidiaries, affiliates or associates. This email and any attachments are not guaranteed to be free from so-called computer viruses and it is recommended that you check for such viruses before down-loading it to your computer equipment. It is the responsibility of the recipient to ensure that the onward transmission, opening or use of this message or any attachments will not adversely affect their systems or data. Registered Office:- Stratum House, Stafford Park 10, Telford, Shropshire, TF3 3AB Registration Number:- 2228445 Place of Registration: England Wales ** --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2] RE: Switching from D3 to U2
Hello Mark, Drop me an email at [EMAIL PROTECTED] and I will provide you with this document. I cannot publish this on the list without marketing approval, but, I can send it to you directly. Thanks Janet From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MAJ Programming [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2008 4:26 PM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] RE: Switching from D3 to U2 I too am interested in this comparison. The majority of my clients are D3 yet I have 1 or 2 UV and UD clients, hence the straddling. I know that U2 products have many more technical features but I would like to see where it gets admin heavy versus D3. Thanks Mark Johnson - Original Message - From: Janet Bond [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 12:26 PM Subject: [U2] RE: Switching from D3 to U2 Hello George, We created a report comparing D3 and the U2 products along with other available MultiValue databases for one of our customers. Please email me directly and I can provide this content to you. Thanks Janet Bond FusionWare Corporation IBM Premier Business Partner Microsoft Gold Partner www.fusionware.net -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of George Land Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 5:30 AM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: [U2] Switching from D3 to U2 I am in the process of putting together a document to support the case for switching an application from D3 to U2 but my knowledge of D3 is a little old and hazy. Has anyone any product or technical justifications for switching over that they would be willing to share? Thanks George Land APT Solutions Limited IBM U2 UK Distributor www.u2uk.com ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify us immediately on +44 (01952) 214000 or at [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Please delete and destroy any copies in any format of this email you may have received in error. The recipient should note that the views contained or expressed within this correspondence do not necessarily reflect those of APT Solutions Limited , it subsidiaries, affiliates or associates. This email and any attachments are not guaranteed to be free from so-called computer viruses and it is recommended that you check for such viruses before down-loading it to your computer equipment. It is the responsibility of the recipient to ensure that the onward transmission, opening or use of this message or any attachments will not adversely affect their systems or data. Registered Office:- Stratum House, Stafford Park 10, Telford, Shropshire, TF3 3AB Registration Number:- 2228445 Place of Registration: England Wales ** --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
[U2] RE: Switching from D3 to U2
I guess an email would have been helpful. Sorry. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Janet Bond Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 9:27 AM To: 'u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org' Subject: RE: Switching from D3 to U2 Hello George, We created a report comparing D3 and the U2 products along with other available MultiValue databases for one of our customers. Please email me directly and I can provide this content to you. Thanks Janet Bond FusionWare Corporation IBM Premier Business Partner Microsoft Gold Partner www.fusionware.net -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of George Land Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 5:30 AM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: [U2] Switching from D3 to U2 I am in the process of putting together a document to support the case for switching an application from D3 to U2 but my knowledge of D3 is a little old and hazy. Has anyone any product or technical justifications for switching over that they would be willing to share? Thanks George Land APT Solutions Limited IBM U2 UK Distributor www.u2uk.com ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify us immediately on +44 (01952) 214000 or at [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Please delete and destroy any copies in any format of this email you may have received in error. The recipient should note that the views contained or expressed within this correspondence do not necessarily reflect those of APT Solutions Limited , it subsidiaries, affiliates or associates. This email and any attachments are not guaranteed to be free from so-called computer viruses and it is recommended that you check for such viruses before down-loading it to your computer equipment. It is the responsibility of the recipient to ensure that the onward transmission, opening or use of this message or any attachments will not adversely affect their systems or data. Registered Office:- Stratum House, Stafford Park 10, Telford, Shropshire, TF3 3AB Registration Number:- 2228445 Place of Registration: England Wales ** --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
[U2] RE: Switching from D3 to U2
Hello George, We created a report comparing D3 and the U2 products along with other available MultiValue databases for one of our customers. Please email me directly and I can provide this content to you. Thanks Janet Bond FusionWare Corporation IBM Premier Business Partner Microsoft Gold Partner www.fusionware.net -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of George Land Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 5:30 AM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: [U2] Switching from D3 to U2 I am in the process of putting together a document to support the case for switching an application from D3 to U2 but my knowledge of D3 is a little old and hazy. Has anyone any product or technical justifications for switching over that they would be willing to share? Thanks George Land APT Solutions Limited IBM U2 UK Distributor www.u2uk.com ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify us immediately on +44 (01952) 214000 or at [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Please delete and destroy any copies in any format of this email you may have received in error. The recipient should note that the views contained or expressed within this correspondence do not necessarily reflect those of APT Solutions Limited , it subsidiaries, affiliates or associates. This email and any attachments are not guaranteed to be free from so-called computer viruses and it is recommended that you check for such viruses before down-loading it to your computer equipment. It is the responsibility of the recipient to ensure that the onward transmission, opening or use of this message or any attachments will not adversely affect their systems or data. Registered Office:- Stratum House, Stafford Park 10, Telford, Shropshire, TF3 3AB Registration Number:- 2228445 Place of Registration: England Wales ** --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
Re: [U2] RE: Switching from D3 to U2
Could you put that document on the PickWiki? I think there are more that would benefit from it's content, and being on the wiki, it could be updated as time passes and the parameters change. Thanks, Karl quote who=Janet Bond Hello George, We created a report comparing D3 and the U2 products along with other available MultiValue databases for one of our customers. Please email me directly and I can provide this content to you. Thanks Janet Bond FusionWare Corporation IBM Premier Business Partner Microsoft Gold Partner www.fusionware.net -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of George Land Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 5:30 AM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: [U2] Switching from D3 to U2 I am in the process of putting together a document to support the case for switching an application from D3 to U2 but my knowledge of D3 is a little old and hazy. Has anyone any product or technical justifications for switching over that they would be willing to share? Thanks George Land APT Solutions Limited IBM U2 UK Distributor www.u2uk.com ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify us immediately on +44 (01952) 214000 or at [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Please delete and destroy any copies in any format of this email you may have received in error. The recipient should note that the views contained or expressed within this correspondence do not necessarily reflect those of APT Solutions Limited , it subsidiaries, affiliates or associates. This email and any attachments are not guaranteed to be free from so-called computer viruses and it is recommended that you check for such viruses before down-loading it to your computer equipment. It is the responsibility of the recipient to ensure that the onward transmission, opening or use of this message or any attachments will not adversely affect their systems or data. Registered Office:- Stratum House, Stafford Park 10, Telford, Shropshire, TF3 3AB Registration Number:- 2228445 Place of Registration: England Wales ** --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ -- Karl Pearson Director of I.T. ATS Industrial Supply, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.atsindustrial.com 800-789-9300 x29 Local: 801-978-4429 Fax: 801-972-3888 To mess up your Linux PC, you have to really work at it; to mess up a microsoft PC you just have to work on it. --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
