Re: [U2] SB Client PE download
I believe you can get a 5.x version from Strategy 7. 877-582-3216, and ask for Bob Serafini. Thanks, Steve Long Spyderweb Technical Services, Inc. (360) 687-8797 Washington (503) 406-8797 Oregon (866) 354-5913 Fax -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of David Wolverton Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2012 11:37 AM To: 'U2 Users List' Subject: Re: [U2] SB Client PE download At this point, I think you'd have to license it from Rocket -- you can't get a PE version now. :-( -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Laura Hirsh Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2012 12:04 PM To: 'U2 Users List' Subject: Re: [U2] SB Client PE download Well, thanks everyone. Hmmm, I was hoping to get the 'old' version because I have no control over the host side version and whether a particular site upgrades or not. At this point, most haven't upgraded. So, anyone have any ideas about where I can get an 'old' version of SB Client? Thanks again! Laura -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of David Wolverton Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2012 12:10 PM To: 'U2 Users List' Subject: Re: [U2] SB Client PE download Yes -- that's what I was thinking also Steve -- he's right -- but wrong too!! If you have to upgrade your SERVER side to use the new client, it means you have to have BOTH old and new SBClient on your PC if you support both old and new customers. He's 'right' in that 6.x will run in the 'old GUI' mode -- but he's 'wrong' in the way you and I were thinking -- the new SBClient is not 'retro-aware' like all previous versions were, probably due to the new licensing scheme where you ALWAYS get SBClient with SB+ - it's no longer an 'add on' ... DW -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Daniel McGrath Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2012 11:04 AM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] SB Client PE download In response with to David and Steve Yes, you will have to upgrade SB+ to 6 as well. The statement that SBClient v6 does not run with SB+ is wrong; SB+ is still the server portion of SB/XA. Yes, there is a requirement to upgrade more than just your client. My previous statement still stands. Cheers, Dan -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Steve Long Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2012 9:51 AM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] SB Client PE download Dan - With all due respect, I have to beg to differ with you. I have SBClient 6.03 installed and attempting to connect to anything other than SB/XA gives me an error: SBClient 6.0 or later is compatible only with SB/XA 6.0 or later. If there is a work around to get it to work, I would love to know it so I don't have to have multiple copies of SBClient. Thanks, Steve Long Spyderweb Technical Services, Inc. (360) 687-8797 Washington (503) 406-8797 Oregon (866) 354-5913 Fax -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Daniel McGrath Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2012 8:39 AM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] SB Client PE download I can denied. Both the New SB/XA clients and SBClient connect to SB+ on the Server. You should be able to migrate v5 applications to v6 without have to use the new rich clients provided with SB/XA (although, I highly recommend you look into it!) Regards, Dan -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Laura Hirsh Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2012 9:35 AM To: 'U2 Users List' Subject: Re: [U2] SB Client PE download Thanks Dan, I'll check it out. Colin said that the version in SB/XA only works with SB/XA. Could you please confirm or deny? :) Thanks all! -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Daniel McGrath Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2012 11:24 AM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] SB Client PE download Hi Laura! SBClient is now included free as part of SB/XA. So you can download the latest SB/XA PE and you will have access to SBClient v6. Just so you know, we recently released SB/XA 6.1.2 and should have the v6.1.2 personal edition out shortly. Regards, Dan McGrath U2 Product Manager | Rocket Software -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Laura Hirsh Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2012 8:52 AM To: 'U2 Users List' Subject: [U2] SB Client PE download Hi all! I think that there used to be a download of SBClient PE, but I can't seem to find it now. Seems that most things
[U2] SB Client PE download
Hi all! I think that there used to be a download of SBClient PE, but I can't seem to find it now. Seems that most things are for SB/XA. Any ideas? Thanks! Laura ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] SB Client PE download
Hi Laura! SBClient is now included free as part of SB/XA. So you can download the latest SB/XA PE and you will have access to SBClient v6. Just so you know, we recently released SB/XA 6.1.2 and should have the v6.1.2 personal edition out shortly. Regards, Dan McGrath U2 Product Manager | Rocket Software -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Laura Hirsh Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2012 8:52 AM To: 'U2 Users List' Subject: [U2] SB Client PE download Hi all! I think that there used to be a download of SBClient PE, but I can't seem to find it now. Seems that most things are for SB/XA. Any ideas? Thanks! Laura ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] SB Client PE download
There is a version of SBClient in the SB/XA download although it's set to work with SB/XA and not SB+. hth Colin -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Laura Hirsh Sent: March 7, 2012 8:52 AM To: 'U2 Users List' Subject: [U2] SB Client PE download Hi all! I think that there used to be a download of SBClient PE, but I can't seem to find it now. Seems that most things are for SB/XA. Any ideas? Thanks! Laura ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] SB Client PE download
Thanks Dan, I'll check it out. Colin said that the version in SB/XA only works with SB/XA. Could you please confirm or deny? :) Thanks all! -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Daniel McGrath Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2012 11:24 AM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] SB Client PE download Hi Laura! SBClient is now included free as part of SB/XA. So you can download the latest SB/XA PE and you will have access to SBClient v6. Just so you know, we recently released SB/XA 6.1.2 and should have the v6.1.2 personal edition out shortly. Regards, Dan McGrath U2 Product Manager | Rocket Software -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Laura Hirsh Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2012 8:52 AM To: 'U2 Users List' Subject: [U2] SB Client PE download Hi all! I think that there used to be a download of SBClient PE, but I can't seem to find it now. Seems that most things are for SB/XA. Any ideas? Thanks! Laura ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] SB Client PE download
I can denied. Both the New SB/XA clients and SBClient connect to SB+ on the Server. You should be able to migrate v5 applications to v6 without have to use the new rich clients provided with SB/XA (although, I highly recommend you look into it!) Regards, Dan -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Laura Hirsh Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2012 9:35 AM To: 'U2 Users List' Subject: Re: [U2] SB Client PE download Thanks Dan, I'll check it out. Colin said that the version in SB/XA only works with SB/XA. Could you please confirm or deny? :) Thanks all! -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Daniel McGrath Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2012 11:24 AM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] SB Client PE download Hi Laura! SBClient is now included free as part of SB/XA. So you can download the latest SB/XA PE and you will have access to SBClient v6. Just so you know, we recently released SB/XA 6.1.2 and should have the v6.1.2 personal edition out shortly. Regards, Dan McGrath U2 Product Manager | Rocket Software -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Laura Hirsh Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2012 8:52 AM To: 'U2 Users List' Subject: [U2] SB Client PE download Hi all! I think that there used to be a download of SBClient PE, but I can't seem to find it now. Seems that most things are for SB/XA. Any ideas? Thanks! Laura ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] SB Client PE download
Dan - With all due respect, I have to beg to differ with you. I have SBClient 6.03 installed and attempting to connect to anything other than SB/XA gives me an error: SBClient 6.0 or later is compatible only with SB/XA 6.0 or later. If there is a work around to get it to work, I would love to know it so I don't have to have multiple copies of SBClient. Thanks, Steve Long Spyderweb Technical Services, Inc. (360) 687-8797 Washington (503) 406-8797 Oregon (866) 354-5913 Fax -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Daniel McGrath Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2012 8:39 AM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] SB Client PE download I can denied. Both the New SB/XA clients and SBClient connect to SB+ on the Server. You should be able to migrate v5 applications to v6 without have to use the new rich clients provided with SB/XA (although, I highly recommend you look into it!) Regards, Dan -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Laura Hirsh Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2012 9:35 AM To: 'U2 Users List' Subject: Re: [U2] SB Client PE download Thanks Dan, I'll check it out. Colin said that the version in SB/XA only works with SB/XA. Could you please confirm or deny? :) Thanks all! -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Daniel McGrath Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2012 11:24 AM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] SB Client PE download Hi Laura! SBClient is now included free as part of SB/XA. So you can download the latest SB/XA PE and you will have access to SBClient v6. Just so you know, we recently released SB/XA 6.1.2 and should have the v6.1.2 personal edition out shortly. Regards, Dan McGrath U2 Product Manager | Rocket Software -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Laura Hirsh Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2012 8:52 AM To: 'U2 Users List' Subject: [U2] SB Client PE download Hi all! I think that there used to be a download of SBClient PE, but I can't seem to find it now. Seems that most things are for SB/XA. Any ideas? Thanks! Laura ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] SB Client PE download
In response with to David and Steve Yes, you will have to upgrade SB+ to 6 as well. The statement that SBClient v6 does not run with SB+ is wrong; SB+ is still the server portion of SB/XA. Yes, there is a requirement to upgrade more than just your client. My previous statement still stands. Cheers, Dan -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Steve Long Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2012 9:51 AM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] SB Client PE download Dan - With all due respect, I have to beg to differ with you. I have SBClient 6.03 installed and attempting to connect to anything other than SB/XA gives me an error: SBClient 6.0 or later is compatible only with SB/XA 6.0 or later. If there is a work around to get it to work, I would love to know it so I don't have to have multiple copies of SBClient. Thanks, Steve Long Spyderweb Technical Services, Inc. (360) 687-8797 Washington (503) 406-8797 Oregon (866) 354-5913 Fax -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Daniel McGrath Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2012 8:39 AM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] SB Client PE download I can denied. Both the New SB/XA clients and SBClient connect to SB+ on the Server. You should be able to migrate v5 applications to v6 without have to use the new rich clients provided with SB/XA (although, I highly recommend you look into it!) Regards, Dan -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Laura Hirsh Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2012 9:35 AM To: 'U2 Users List' Subject: Re: [U2] SB Client PE download Thanks Dan, I'll check it out. Colin said that the version in SB/XA only works with SB/XA. Could you please confirm or deny? :) Thanks all! -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Daniel McGrath Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2012 11:24 AM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] SB Client PE download Hi Laura! SBClient is now included free as part of SB/XA. So you can download the latest SB/XA PE and you will have access to SBClient v6. Just so you know, we recently released SB/XA 6.1.2 and should have the v6.1.2 personal edition out shortly. Regards, Dan McGrath U2 Product Manager | Rocket Software -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Laura Hirsh Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2012 8:52 AM To: 'U2 Users List' Subject: [U2] SB Client PE download Hi all! I think that there used to be a download of SBClient PE, but I can't seem to find it now. Seems that most things are for SB/XA. Any ideas? Thanks! Laura ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] SB Client PE download
Yes -- that's what I was thinking also Steve -- he's right -- but wrong too!! If you have to upgrade your SERVER side to use the new client, it means you have to have BOTH old and new SBClient on your PC if you support both old and new customers. He's 'right' in that 6.x will run in the 'old GUI' mode -- but he's 'wrong' in the way you and I were thinking -- the new SBClient is not 'retro-aware' like all previous versions were, probably due to the new licensing scheme where you ALWAYS get SBClient with SB+ - it's no longer an 'add on' ... DW -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Daniel McGrath Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2012 11:04 AM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] SB Client PE download In response with to David and Steve Yes, you will have to upgrade SB+ to 6 as well. The statement that SBClient v6 does not run with SB+ is wrong; SB+ is still the server portion of SB/XA. Yes, there is a requirement to upgrade more than just your client. My previous statement still stands. Cheers, Dan -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Steve Long Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2012 9:51 AM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] SB Client PE download Dan - With all due respect, I have to beg to differ with you. I have SBClient 6.03 installed and attempting to connect to anything other than SB/XA gives me an error: SBClient 6.0 or later is compatible only with SB/XA 6.0 or later. If there is a work around to get it to work, I would love to know it so I don't have to have multiple copies of SBClient. Thanks, Steve Long Spyderweb Technical Services, Inc. (360) 687-8797 Washington (503) 406-8797 Oregon (866) 354-5913 Fax -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Daniel McGrath Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2012 8:39 AM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] SB Client PE download I can denied. Both the New SB/XA clients and SBClient connect to SB+ on the Server. You should be able to migrate v5 applications to v6 without have to use the new rich clients provided with SB/XA (although, I highly recommend you look into it!) Regards, Dan -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Laura Hirsh Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2012 9:35 AM To: 'U2 Users List' Subject: Re: [U2] SB Client PE download Thanks Dan, I'll check it out. Colin said that the version in SB/XA only works with SB/XA. Could you please confirm or deny? :) Thanks all! -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Daniel McGrath Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2012 11:24 AM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] SB Client PE download Hi Laura! SBClient is now included free as part of SB/XA. So you can download the latest SB/XA PE and you will have access to SBClient v6. Just so you know, we recently released SB/XA 6.1.2 and should have the v6.1.2 personal edition out shortly. Regards, Dan McGrath U2 Product Manager | Rocket Software -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Laura Hirsh Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2012 8:52 AM To: 'U2 Users List' Subject: [U2] SB Client PE download Hi all! I think that there used to be a download of SBClient PE, but I can't seem to find it now. Seems that most things are for SB/XA. Any ideas? Thanks! Laura ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] SB Client PE download
Yeah, that's been my experience with it too. Unfortunate it's 'retro-ware' though. Thanks, Steve Long Spyderweb Technical Services, Inc. (360) 687-8797 Washington (503) 406-8797 Oregon (866) 354-5913 Fax -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of David Wolverton Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2012 9:10 AM To: 'U2 Users List' Subject: Re: [U2] SB Client PE download Yes -- that's what I was thinking also Steve -- he's right -- but wrong too!! If you have to upgrade your SERVER side to use the new client, it means you have to have BOTH old and new SBClient on your PC if you support both old and new customers. He's 'right' in that 6.x will run in the 'old GUI' mode -- but he's 'wrong' in the way you and I were thinking -- the new SBClient is not 'retro-aware' like all previous versions were, probably due to the new licensing scheme where you ALWAYS get SBClient with SB+ - it's no longer an 'add on' ... DW -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Daniel McGrath Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2012 11:04 AM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] SB Client PE download In response with to David and Steve Yes, you will have to upgrade SB+ to 6 as well. The statement that SBClient v6 does not run with SB+ is wrong; SB+ is still the server portion of SB/XA. Yes, there is a requirement to upgrade more than just your client. My previous statement still stands. Cheers, Dan -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Steve Long Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2012 9:51 AM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] SB Client PE download Dan - With all due respect, I have to beg to differ with you. I have SBClient 6.03 installed and attempting to connect to anything other than SB/XA gives me an error: SBClient 6.0 or later is compatible only with SB/XA 6.0 or later. If there is a work around to get it to work, I would love to know it so I don't have to have multiple copies of SBClient. Thanks, Steve Long Spyderweb Technical Services, Inc. (360) 687-8797 Washington (503) 406-8797 Oregon (866) 354-5913 Fax -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Daniel McGrath Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2012 8:39 AM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] SB Client PE download I can denied. Both the New SB/XA clients and SBClient connect to SB+ on the Server. You should be able to migrate v5 applications to v6 without have to use the new rich clients provided with SB/XA (although, I highly recommend you look into it!) Regards, Dan -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Laura Hirsh Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2012 9:35 AM To: 'U2 Users List' Subject: Re: [U2] SB Client PE download Thanks Dan, I'll check it out. Colin said that the version in SB/XA only works with SB/XA. Could you please confirm or deny? :) Thanks all! -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Daniel McGrath Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2012 11:24 AM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] SB Client PE download Hi Laura! SBClient is now included free as part of SB/XA. So you can download the latest SB/XA PE and you will have access to SBClient v6. Just so you know, we recently released SB/XA 6.1.2 and should have the v6.1.2 personal edition out shortly. Regards, Dan McGrath U2 Product Manager | Rocket Software -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Laura Hirsh Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2012 8:52 AM To: 'U2 Users List' Subject: [U2] SB Client PE download Hi all! I think that there used to be a download of SBClient PE, but I can't seem to find it now. Seems that most things are for SB/XA. Any ideas? Thanks! Laura ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http
Re: [U2] SB Client PE download
Well, thanks everyone. Hmmm, I was hoping to get the 'old' version because I have no control over the host side version and whether a particular site upgrades or not. At this point, most haven't upgraded. So, anyone have any ideas about where I can get an 'old' version of SB Client? Thanks again! Laura -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of David Wolverton Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2012 12:10 PM To: 'U2 Users List' Subject: Re: [U2] SB Client PE download Yes -- that's what I was thinking also Steve -- he's right -- but wrong too!! If you have to upgrade your SERVER side to use the new client, it means you have to have BOTH old and new SBClient on your PC if you support both old and new customers. He's 'right' in that 6.x will run in the 'old GUI' mode -- but he's 'wrong' in the way you and I were thinking -- the new SBClient is not 'retro-aware' like all previous versions were, probably due to the new licensing scheme where you ALWAYS get SBClient with SB+ - it's no longer an 'add on' ... DW -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Daniel McGrath Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2012 11:04 AM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] SB Client PE download In response with to David and Steve Yes, you will have to upgrade SB+ to 6 as well. The statement that SBClient v6 does not run with SB+ is wrong; SB+ is still the server portion of SB/XA. Yes, there is a requirement to upgrade more than just your client. My previous statement still stands. Cheers, Dan -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Steve Long Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2012 9:51 AM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] SB Client PE download Dan - With all due respect, I have to beg to differ with you. I have SBClient 6.03 installed and attempting to connect to anything other than SB/XA gives me an error: SBClient 6.0 or later is compatible only with SB/XA 6.0 or later. If there is a work around to get it to work, I would love to know it so I don't have to have multiple copies of SBClient. Thanks, Steve Long Spyderweb Technical Services, Inc. (360) 687-8797 Washington (503) 406-8797 Oregon (866) 354-5913 Fax -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Daniel McGrath Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2012 8:39 AM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] SB Client PE download I can denied. Both the New SB/XA clients and SBClient connect to SB+ on the Server. You should be able to migrate v5 applications to v6 without have to use the new rich clients provided with SB/XA (although, I highly recommend you look into it!) Regards, Dan -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Laura Hirsh Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2012 9:35 AM To: 'U2 Users List' Subject: Re: [U2] SB Client PE download Thanks Dan, I'll check it out. Colin said that the version in SB/XA only works with SB/XA. Could you please confirm or deny? :) Thanks all! -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Daniel McGrath Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2012 11:24 AM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] SB Client PE download Hi Laura! SBClient is now included free as part of SB/XA. So you can download the latest SB/XA PE and you will have access to SBClient v6. Just so you know, we recently released SB/XA 6.1.2 and should have the v6.1.2 personal edition out shortly. Regards, Dan McGrath U2 Product Manager | Rocket Software -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Laura Hirsh Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2012 8:52 AM To: 'U2 Users List' Subject: [U2] SB Client PE download Hi all! I think that there used to be a download of SBClient PE, but I can't seem to find it now. Seems that most things are for SB/XA. Any ideas? Thanks! Laura ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] SB Client PE download
Sorry if I caused some confusion. I had thought Rocket was trying to get away from the SB+ naming conventions with SB/XA. When I said it won't work with SB+ I meant SB+ versions prior to the version in SB/XA. As Steve, David, and Dan have confirmed - SBClient 6 won't connect to prior versions of SB+. So if you're a VAR or consultant that needs to connect to various versions SBClient 6 isn't a good fit. Colin -Original Message- From: David Wolverton Yes -- that's what I was thinking also Steve -- he's right -- but wrong too!! If you have to upgrade your SERVER side to use the new client, it means you have to have BOTH old and new SBClient on your PC if you support both old and new customers. He's 'right' in that 6.x will run in the 'old GUI' mode -- but he's 'wrong' in the way you and I were thinking -- the new SBClient is not 'retro-aware' like all previous versions were, probably due to the new licensing scheme where you ALWAYS get SBClient with SB+ - it's no longer an 'add on' ... DW -Original Message- From: Daniel McGrath In response with to David and Steve Yes, you will have to upgrade SB+ to 6 as well. The statement that SBClient v6 does not run with SB+ is wrong; SB+ is still the server portion of SB/XA. Yes, there is a requirement to upgrade more than just your client. My previous statement still stands. Cheers, Dan -Original Message- From: Steve Long Dan - With all due respect, I have to beg to differ with you. I have SBClient 6.03 installed and attempting to connect to anything other than SB/XA gives me an error: SBClient 6.0 or later is compatible only with SB/XA 6.0 or later. If there is a work around to get it to work, I would love to know it so I don't have to have multiple copies of SBClient. Thanks, Steve Long -Original Message- From: Daniel McGrath I can denied. Both the New SB/XA clients and SBClient connect to SB+ on the Server. You should be able to migrate v5 applications to v6 without have to use the new rich clients provided with SB/XA (although, I highly recommend you look into it!) Regards, Dan -Original Message- From: Laura Hirsh Thanks Dan, I'll check it out. Colin said that the version in SB/XA only works with SB/XA. Could you please confirm or deny? :) Thanks all! -Original Message- From: Daniel McGrath Hi Laura! SBClient is now included free as part of SB/XA. So you can download the latest SB/XA PE and you will have access to SBClient v6. Just so you know, we recently released SB/XA 6.1.2 and should have the v6.1.2 personal edition out shortly. Regards, Dan McGrath U2 Product Manager | Rocket Software -Original Message- From: Laura Hirsh Hi all! I think that there used to be a download of SBClient PE, but I can't seem to find it now. Seems that most things are for SB/XA. Any ideas? Thanks! Laura ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] SB Client PE download
I'm not sure if Dynamic Connect is still in the client download. It can work quite well - with some setting up of a new terminal type. It won't do GUI or any of the TU applications (file transfer, Excel Downloads, etc) but it works nicely as a terminal program. hth Colin -Original Message- From: Laura Hirsh Well, thanks everyone. Hmmm, I was hoping to get the 'old' version because I have no control over the host side version and whether a particular site upgrades or not. At this point, most haven't upgraded. So, anyone have any ideas about where I can get an 'old' version of SB Client? Thanks again! Laura -Original Message- From: David Wolverton Yes -- that's what I was thinking also Steve -- he's right -- but wrong too!! If you have to upgrade your SERVER side to use the new client, it means you have to have BOTH old and new SBClient on your PC if you support both old and new customers. He's 'right' in that 6.x will run in the 'old GUI' mode -- but he's 'wrong' in the way you and I were thinking -- the new SBClient is not 'retro-aware' like all previous versions were, probably due to the new licensing scheme where you ALWAYS get SBClient with SB+ - it's no longer an 'add on' ... DW ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] SB Client PE download
So what's the advantage over AccuTerm ? -Original Message- From: Colin Alfke alfke...@hotmail.com To: 'U2 Users List' u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Wed, Mar 7, 2012 10:35 am Subject: Re: [U2] SB Client PE download I'm not sure if Dynamic Connect is still in the client download. It can work uite well - with some setting up of a new terminal type. It won't do GUI or ny of the TU applications (file transfer, Excel Downloads, etc) but it orks nicely as a terminal program. hth olin -Original Message- rom: Laura Hirsh Well, thanks everyone. Hmmm, I was hoping to get the 'old' version because I ave no control over the host side version and whether a particular site pgrades or not. At this point, most haven't upgraded. So, anyone have any ideas about where I can get an 'old' version of SB lient? Thanks again! aura -Original Message- rom: David Wolverton Yes -- that's what I was thinking also Steve -- he's right -- but wrong oo!! If you have to upgrade your SERVER side to use the new client, it means you ave to have BOTH old and new SBClient on your PC if you support both old nd new customers. He's 'right' in that 6.x will run in the 'old GUI' mode -- but he's 'wrong' n the way you and I were thinking -- the new SBClient is not 'retro-aware' ike all previous versions were, probably due to the new licensing scheme here you ALWAYS get SBClient with SB+ - it's no longer an 'add on' ... DW __ 2-Users mailing list 2-us...@listserver.u2ug.org ttp://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] SB Client PE download
At this point, I think you'd have to license it from Rocket -- you can't get a PE version now. :-( -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Laura Hirsh Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2012 12:04 PM To: 'U2 Users List' Subject: Re: [U2] SB Client PE download Well, thanks everyone. Hmmm, I was hoping to get the 'old' version because I have no control over the host side version and whether a particular site upgrades or not. At this point, most haven't upgraded. So, anyone have any ideas about where I can get an 'old' version of SB Client? Thanks again! Laura -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of David Wolverton Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2012 12:10 PM To: 'U2 Users List' Subject: Re: [U2] SB Client PE download Yes -- that's what I was thinking also Steve -- he's right -- but wrong too!! If you have to upgrade your SERVER side to use the new client, it means you have to have BOTH old and new SBClient on your PC if you support both old and new customers. He's 'right' in that 6.x will run in the 'old GUI' mode -- but he's 'wrong' in the way you and I were thinking -- the new SBClient is not 'retro-aware' like all previous versions were, probably due to the new licensing scheme where you ALWAYS get SBClient with SB+ - it's no longer an 'add on' ... DW -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Daniel McGrath Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2012 11:04 AM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] SB Client PE download In response with to David and Steve Yes, you will have to upgrade SB+ to 6 as well. The statement that SBClient v6 does not run with SB+ is wrong; SB+ is still the server portion of SB/XA. Yes, there is a requirement to upgrade more than just your client. My previous statement still stands. Cheers, Dan -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Steve Long Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2012 9:51 AM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] SB Client PE download Dan - With all due respect, I have to beg to differ with you. I have SBClient 6.03 installed and attempting to connect to anything other than SB/XA gives me an error: SBClient 6.0 or later is compatible only with SB/XA 6.0 or later. If there is a work around to get it to work, I would love to know it so I don't have to have multiple copies of SBClient. Thanks, Steve Long Spyderweb Technical Services, Inc. (360) 687-8797 Washington (503) 406-8797 Oregon (866) 354-5913 Fax -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Daniel McGrath Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2012 8:39 AM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] SB Client PE download I can denied. Both the New SB/XA clients and SBClient connect to SB+ on the Server. You should be able to migrate v5 applications to v6 without have to use the new rich clients provided with SB/XA (although, I highly recommend you look into it!) Regards, Dan -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Laura Hirsh Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2012 9:35 AM To: 'U2 Users List' Subject: Re: [U2] SB Client PE download Thanks Dan, I'll check it out. Colin said that the version in SB/XA only works with SB/XA. Could you please confirm or deny? :) Thanks all! -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Daniel McGrath Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2012 11:24 AM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] SB Client PE download Hi Laura! SBClient is now included free as part of SB/XA. So you can download the latest SB/XA PE and you will have access to SBClient v6. Just so you know, we recently released SB/XA 6.1.2 and should have the v6.1.2 personal edition out shortly. Regards, Dan McGrath U2 Product Manager | Rocket Software -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Laura Hirsh Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2012 8:52 AM To: 'U2 Users List' Subject: [U2] SB Client PE download Hi all! I think that there used to be a download of SBClient PE, but I can't seem to find it now. Seems that most things are for SB/XA. Any ideas? Thanks! Laura ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http
Re: [U2] SB Client PE download
Definitely price and perhaps inter-operability with SB+. I've used AccuTerm - just never to connect to SB+. P.S. What's with your e-mail client and dropping characters?!?!?!? -Original Message- From: Wjhonson So what's the advantage over AccuTerm ? -Original Message- From: Colin Alfke I'm not sure if Dynamic Connect is still in the client download. It can work uite well - with some setting up of a new terminal type. It won't do GUI or ny of the TU applications (file transfer, Excel Downloads, etc) but it orks nicely as a terminal program. hth olin ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] SB Client PE download
I'm responding through mail.aol.com which is AOL for the browser, instead of their own software. No idea why it would drop characters. Web apps are buggy. -Original Message- From: Colin Alfke alfke...@hotmail.com To: 'U2 Users List' u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Wed, Mar 7, 2012 11:55 am Subject: Re: [U2] SB Client PE download Definitely price and perhaps inter-operability with SB+. I've used AccuTerm just never to connect to SB+. P.S. What's with your e-mail client and dropping characters?!?!?!? -Original Message- rom: Wjhonson o what's the advantage over AccuTerm ? Original Message- rom: Colin Alfke I'm not sure if Dynamic Connect is still in the client download. It can work ite well - with some setting up of a new terminal type. It won't do GUI or y of the TU applications (file transfer, Excel Downloads, etc) but it rks nicely as a terminal program. th lin ___ 2-Users mailing list 2-us...@listserver.u2ug.org ttp://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] SB Client PE download
Colin: I noticed that too...most disconcerting! :-( Bill - Original Message - *From:* alfke...@hotmail.com *To:* 'U2 Users List' u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org *Date:* 3/7/2012 11:56 AM *Subject:* Re: [U2] SB Client PE download Definitely price and perhaps inter-operability with SB+. I've used AccuTerm - just never to connect to SB+. P.S. What's with your e-mail client and dropping characters?!?!?!? -Original Message- From: Wjhonson So what's the advantage over AccuTerm ? -Original Message- From: Colin Alfke I'm not sure if Dynamic Connect is still in the client download. It can work uite well - with some setting up of a new terminal type. It won't do GUI or ny of the TU applications (file transfer, Excel Downloads, etc) but it orks nicely as a terminal program. hth olin ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] SB Client PE download [OT]
Like AOL-anything isn't buggy/crappy/adverts up the yazoo/how slow can I make your browsing experience/you don't really need to send everything you write or reply to... I find it very difficult to take anyone seriously with an AOHEdouble_hockey_sticks E-mail address... An efficient and effective means of electronic communication it is not... And don't get me started on Outlook (I can suck all of your resources for as long as it takes to fetch mail and index it) or Internet Exploder (oops - Explorer... I keep doing that!)... -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Wjhonson Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2012 3:31 PM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] SB Client PE download I'm responding through mail.aol.com which is AOL for the browser, instead of their own software. No idea why it would drop characters. Web apps are buggy. -Original Message- From: Colin Alfke alfke...@hotmail.com To: 'U2 Users List' u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Wed, Mar 7, 2012 11:55 am Subject: Re: [U2] SB Client PE download Definitely price and perhaps inter-operability with SB+. I've used AccuTerm just never to connect to SB+. P.S. What's with your e-mail client and dropping characters?!?!?!? -Original Message- rom: Wjhonson o what's the advantage over AccuTerm ? Original Message- rom: Colin Alfke I'm not sure if Dynamic Connect is still in the client download. It can work ite well - with some setting up of a new terminal type. It won't do GUI or y of the TU applications (file transfer, Excel Downloads, etc) but it rks nicely as a terminal program. th lin ___ 2-Users mailing list 2-us...@listserver.u2ug.org ttp://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] SB Client PE download [OT]
Well we can all learn a thing or two about how the marketers at AOL completely squashed CompuServe and Prodigy. I really think the people at Prodigy were stunned at what occurred. Who even remembers them anymore. -Original Message- From: Bob Wyatt bwyatt_...@comcast.net To: 'U2 Users List' u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Wed, Mar 7, 2012 1:29 pm Subject: Re: [U2] SB Client PE download [OT] Like AOL-anything isn't buggy/crappy/adverts up the yazoo/how slow can I ake your browsing experience/you don't really need to send everything you rite or reply to... I find it very difficult to take anyone seriously with an OHEdouble_hockey_sticks E-mail address... n efficient and effective means of electronic communication it is not... And don't get me started on Outlook (I can suck all of your resources for as ong as it takes to fetch mail and index it) or Internet Exploder (oops - xplorer... I keep doing that!)... -Original Message- rom: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Wjhonson ent: Wednesday, March 07, 2012 3:31 PM o: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org ubject: Re: [U2] SB Client PE download 'm responding through mail.aol.com which is AOL for the browser, instead of heir own software. o idea why it would drop characters. eb apps are buggy. -Original Message- rom: Colin Alfke alfke...@hotmail.com o: 'U2 Users List' u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org ent: Wed, Mar 7, 2012 11:55 am ubject: Re: [U2] SB Client PE download efinitely price and perhaps inter-operability with SB+. I've used AccuTerm ust never to connect to SB+. .S. What's with your e-mail client and dropping characters?!?!?!? Original Message- om: Wjhonson o what's the advantage over AccuTerm ? Original Message- om: Colin Alfke 'm not sure if Dynamic Connect is still in the client download. It can work te well - with some setting up of a new terminal type. It won't do GUI or y f the TU applications (file transfer, Excel Downloads, etc) but it rks icely as a terminal program. h in __ -Users mailing list -us...@listserver.u2ug.org tp://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ 2-Users mailing list 2-us...@listserver.u2ug.org ttp://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ 2-Users mailing list 2-us...@listserver.u2ug.org ttp://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
