Re: [U2] Universe SIMPLE database management tool
Lee, Please precede this sort of response with the word [AD] in the title. - Charles Barouch, Moderator Rob, Concerning your request to convert SIMPLE We at Binary Star have a number of conversion routines, including a way to convert SIMPLE to a modern and easily supportable environment with both GUI and character based support. We have converted: TPH WIZARD System Builder System Builder + applications to Nucleus (http://www.binarystar.com/nucleus.html) Please contact me off line if you are still looking for a solution. thanks Lee Bacall http://www.binarystar.com Phone: +1 (954) 791-8575 Cell: +1 (954) 655-6581 --- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
Re: Fw: [U2] Universe SIMPLE database management tool AD reference
Lee, You make an excellent point. IN that case, you should insert [AD] in the *body* of the response. Some people have become fond of using [AD] relates to buying from me or selling to me goes here[/AD] rest of my comments go here. - Charles Barouch, Moderator From: Lee Bacall When responding to a posting, if one precedes the subject line ad in the title, it no longer allows a search based on subject line. I was under the assumption (based on previous history), that a new posting with commercial content should be preceded by AD in the subject line. It has been normal ettiquette in most discussion groups to only precede a subject line with AD if it is a new thread. Your clarity would be appreciated. --- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
Re: [U2] Universe SIMPLE database management tool
checkout www.ongroup.com Charlie Stauffer (principle at blacksmith) is now with this firm. Rich Rob Thometz wrote: Rich, Thanks for your reply a while back concerning my questions regarding SIMPLE. Do you have any information on Blacksmith such as a web site or phone number? I did some google searches but can't find any specific information. I ran across a company called Blacksmith Technologies, Inc. but they seem to be solely committed to Macintosh apps. Rob [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/11/04 06:46AM its been awhile so my memory maybe a bit fuzzy. I believe blacksmith out of California has a converter and there was another company out of the UK but I dont remember their name. you may want to do a google on newsgroups comp.databases.pick or comp.sys.prime for other info Simple has the option to generate basic code for your screens but you would have to duplicate the 20 or so system type subroutines that are called, input/repaint/etc/etc/etc Rich Rob Thometz wrote: Wondering if anyone has had any experience with the SIMPLE (originally marketed by Vmark) database management tool, running on Universe. We currently have a Universe system with the SIMPLE tool installed. Management has asked that we look into stripping SIMPLE out of Universe or find out if any conversion tools exist to convert to another more scalable database management tool. Our use of the tool is limited mainly to screen processing (SCREENS file). If anyone has any information I'd greatly appreciate it. Rob Thometz Info Tech Analyst City of St. Paul, Minnesota --- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.u2ug.org/listinfo/u2-users -- Richard A. Wilson Lakeside Systems Smithfield, RI, USA Voice 401-231-3959 Fax 401-231-3943 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.lakeside-systems.com --- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2] Universe SIMPLE database management tool
You can contact Charles Stauffer at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit their web site at www.ongroup.com. There is precious little about BlackSmith on that site and the old site, [EMAIL PROTECTED] seems to have turned into a porn site. If you contact Chas he will fill you in. HTH Tom Dodds [EMAIL PROTECTED] 630-235-2975 Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend. Inside of a dog it's too dark to read. Groucho Marx -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rob Thometz Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2004 12:02 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [U2] Universe SIMPLE database management tool Rich, Thanks for your reply a while back concerning my questions regarding SIMPLE. Do you have any information on Blacksmith such as a web site or phone number? I did some google searches but can't find any specific information. I ran across a company called Blacksmith Technologies, Inc. but they seem to be solely committed to Macintosh apps. Rob [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/11/04 06:46AM its been awhile so my memory maybe a bit fuzzy. I believe blacksmith out of California has a converter and there was another company out of the UK but I dont remember their name. you may want to do a google on newsgroups comp.databases.pick or comp.sys.prime for other info Simple has the option to generate basic code for your screens but you would have to duplicate the 20 or so system type subroutines that are called, input/repaint/etc/etc/etc Rich Rob Thometz wrote: Wondering if anyone has had any experience with the SIMPLE (originally marketed by Vmark) database management tool, running on Universe. We currently have a Universe system with the SIMPLE tool installed. Management has asked that we look into stripping SIMPLE out of Universe or find out if any conversion tools exist to convert to another more scalable database management tool. Our use of the tool is limited mainly to screen processing (SCREENS file). If anyone has any information I'd greatly appreciate it. Rob Thometz Info Tech Analyst City of St. Paul, Minnesota --- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.u2ug.org/listinfo/u2-users -- Richard A. Wilson Lakeside Systems Smithfield, RI, USA --- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.u2ug.org/listinfo/u2-users --- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
Re: [U2] Universe SIMPLE database management tool
Check out this URL. Seems WordMark is now marketing the product. http://www.multivalue.com/WMResellBS.html Ron White - Original Message - From: Rob Thometz [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2004 12:01 PM Subject: Re: [U2] Universe SIMPLE database management tool Rich, Thanks for your reply a while back concerning my questions regarding SIMPLE. Do you have any information on Blacksmith such as a web site or phone number? I did some google searches but can't find any specific information. I ran across a company called Blacksmith Technologies, Inc. but they seem to be solely committed to Macintosh apps. Rob [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/11/04 06:46AM its been awhile so my memory maybe a bit fuzzy. I believe blacksmith out of California has a converter and there was another company out of the UK but I dont remember their name. you may want to do a google on newsgroups comp.databases.pick or comp.sys.prime for other info Simple has the option to generate basic code for your screens but you would have to duplicate the 20 or so system type subroutines that are called, input/repaint/etc/etc/etc Rich Rob Thometz wrote: Wondering if anyone has had any experience with the SIMPLE (originally marketed by Vmark) database management tool, running on Universe. We currently have a Universe system with the SIMPLE tool installed. Management has asked that we look into stripping SIMPLE out of Universe or find out if any conversion tools exist to convert to another more scalable database management tool. Our use of the tool is limited mainly to screen processing (SCREENS file). If anyone has any information I'd greatly appreciate it. Rob Thometz Info Tech Analyst City of St. Paul, Minnesota --- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.u2ug.org/listinfo/u2-users -- Richard A. Wilson Lakeside Systems Smithfield, RI, USA --- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.u2ug.org/listinfo/u2-users --- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- [ Eckel certifies this E-mail to be virus free. ] --- [ Eckel certifies this E-mail to be virus free. ] --- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
Re: [U2] Universe SIMPLE database management tool
Rob, Concerning your request to convert SIMPLE We at Binary Star have a number of conversion routines, including a way to convert SIMPLE to a modern and easily supportable environment with both GUI and character based support. We have converted: TPH WIZARD System Builder System Builder + applications to Nucleus (http://www.binarystar.com/nucleus.html) Please contact me off line if you are still looking for a solution. thanks Lee Bacall http://www.binarystar.com Phone: +1 (954) 791-8575 Cell: +1 (954) 655-6581 . - Original Message - From: Rob Thometz [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 10, 2004 7:00 PM Subject: [U2] Universe SIMPLE database management tool Wondering if anyone has had any experience with the SIMPLE (originally marketed by Vmark) database management tool, running on Universe. We currently have a Universe system with the SIMPLE tool installed. Management has asked that we look into stripping SIMPLE out of Universe or find out if any conversion tools exist to convert to another more scalable database management tool. Our use of the tool is limited mainly to screen processing (SCREENS file). If anyone has any information I'd greatly appreciate it. Rob Thometz Info Tech Analyst City of St. Paul, Minnesota --- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.u2ug.org/listinfo/u2-users --- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2] Universe SIMPLE database management tool
AFAIK, it is Dynamo which is able to convert a SIMPLE app. I did test Dynamo a few years ago, and it looks a bit like SIMPLE, just way more advanced :-) Claus Derlien edb-afdelingen direkte : 63 13 86 69 email : [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Richard A. Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2004 1:46 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [U2] Universe SIMPLE database management tool its been awhile so my memory maybe a bit fuzzy. I believe blacksmith out of California has a converter and there was another company out of the UK but I dont remember their name. you may want to do a google on newsgroups comp.databases.pick or comp.sys.prime for other info Simple has the option to generate basic code for your screens but you would have to duplicate the 20 or so system type subroutines that are called, input/repaint/etc/etc/etc Rich Rob Thometz wrote: Wondering if anyone has had any experience with the SIMPLE (originally marketed by Vmark) database management tool, running on Universe. We currently have a Universe system with the SIMPLE tool installed. Management has asked that we look into stripping SIMPLE out of Universe or find out if any conversion tools exist to convert to another more scalable database management tool. Our use of the tool is limited mainly to screen processing (SCREENS file). If anyone has any information I'd greatly appreciate it. Rob Thometz Info Tech Analyst City of St. Paul, Minnesota --- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.u2ug.org/listinfo/u2-users -- Richard A. Wilson Lakeside Systems Smithfield, RI, USA --- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.u2ug.org/listinfo/u2-users ** ** Denne mail er blevet scannet af http://www.virus112.com ** ** Frie Funktionfrer - faglig organisation og tvfrfaglig a-kasse - www.f-f.dk *** Denne email og alle filer vedlagt som bilag kan indeholde fortroligt materiale, der kun er beregnet for adressaten, og maa ikke udleveres eller kopieres til uvedkommende. Har De ved en fejltagelse modtaget denne email, bedes De venligst omgaaende meddele os dette pr. telefon : 6313 8550. Paa forhaand tak. *** This email and any files transmitted with it may contain confidential information intended for the addressee(s) only. The information is not to be surrendered or copied to unauthorised persons. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by telephone: +45 6313 8550. Thank you. *** --- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.u2ug.org/listinfo/u2-users
RE: [U2] Universe SIMPLE database management tool
Perhaps scaleable was not the best word to use. There were some issues installing SIMPLE on our latest release of Universe. We got SIMPLE installed and it is working smoothly. However, management now worries about the operability of SIMPLE on newer releases of Universe. I feel the worries are unfounded but have nonetheless been asked to check into other options. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/10/04 11:20PM How scaleable do you want ? I would have thought that SIMPLE applications could be scaled out to many hundreds (if not thousands) of users without too many issues - do you have a number (to scale to) or example (of a more scaleable tool) Ross Ferris Stamina Software Visage an Evolution in Software Development -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:owner-u2- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rob Thometz Sent: Tuesday, 11 May 2004 9:01 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [U2] Universe SIMPLE database management tool Wondering if anyone has had any experience with the SIMPLE (originally marketed by Vmark) database management tool, running on Universe. We currently have a Universe system with the SIMPLE tool installed. Management has asked that we look into stripping SIMPLE out of Universe or find out if any conversion tools exist to convert to another more scalable database management tool. Our use of the tool is limited mainly to screen processing (SCREENS file). If anyone has any information I'd greatly appreciate it. Rob Thometz Info Tech Analyst City of St. Paul, Minnesota --- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.u2ug.org/listinfo/u2-users --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.680 / Virus Database: 442 - Release Date: 9/05/2004 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.680 / Virus Database: 442 - Release Date: 9/05/2004 --- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.u2ug.org/listinfo/u2-users --- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.u2ug.org/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Universe SIMPLE database management tool
Not completely unfounded. I don't think Simple is a supported product. Too bad, it was, just as it's name implies, simple to use. - Original Message - From: Rob Thometz [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2004 8:43 AM Subject: RE: [U2] Universe SIMPLE database management tool Perhaps scaleable was not the best word to use. There were some issues installing SIMPLE on our latest release of Universe. We got SIMPLE installed and it is working smoothly. However, management now worries about the operability of SIMPLE on newer releases of Universe. I feel the worries are unfounded but have nonetheless been asked to check into other options. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/10/04 11:20PM How scaleable do you want ? I would have thought that SIMPLE applications could be scaled out to many hundreds (if not thousands) of users without too many issues - do you have a number (to scale to) or example (of a more scaleable tool) Ross Ferris Stamina Software Visage an Evolution in Software Development -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:owner-u2- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rob Thometz Sent: Tuesday, 11 May 2004 9:01 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [U2] Universe SIMPLE database management tool Wondering if anyone has had any experience with the SIMPLE (originally marketed by Vmark) database management tool, running on Universe. We currently have a Universe system with the SIMPLE tool installed. Management has asked that we look into stripping SIMPLE out of Universe or find out if any conversion tools exist to convert to another more scalable database management tool. Our use of the tool is limited mainly to screen processing (SCREENS file). If anyone has any information I'd greatly appreciate it. Rob Thometz Info Tech Analyst City of St. Paul, Minnesota --- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.u2ug.org/listinfo/u2-users --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.680 / Virus Database: 442 - Release Date: 9/05/2004 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.680 / Virus Database: 442 - Release Date: 9/05/2004 --- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.u2ug.org/listinfo/u2-users --- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.u2ug.org/listinfo/u2-users --- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.u2ug.org/listinfo/u2-users
RE: [U2] Universe SIMPLE database management tool[Scanned]
NOT a PC product! GASP. Actually, it ran on Prime computers although there was a version for PCs. Yeah, Simple was available way back then. I used it a few times and discovered I didn't particularly like it. Georgia Pritchet City of Salinas -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Stu Glancy Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2004 6:20 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [U2] Universe SIMPLE database management tool[Scanned] Just an historical note. I believe that SIMPLE was part of the PC product from Prime Information. --- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.u2ug.org/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [OT] Historical note Re: [U2] Universe SIMPLE database management tool
No, Ken had another application generator that Prime marketed I Believe was called Escape. It was a huge product and difficult to support unless you really spent a lot of time understanding its code generation model. It was targeted at a different market than SIMPLE. It was competing against Blacksmith and Toads... -Lance Kryka, Richard wrote: OK, maybe my memory is not remembering the way it should. I thought SIMPLE was written by Ken Martin here in Denver several years after PI was introduced and PI picked it up as an optional product. I never used it, so don't know anything about it. Dick Kryka Director of Applications CCCS of Greater Denver, Inc. Paragon Financial Services 303-632-2226 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Clifton Oliver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2004 8:49 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [OT] Historical note Re: [U2] Universe SIMPLE database management tool If I recall correctly, SIMPLE was part of the original INFORMATION even before it was bought by Prime. It was written by Fred Compton at Devcom. (Tom, Lance, etc. pls correct me if my memory is failing...again. :-) I do remember it being part of Prime's offering on the 50 series. --- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.u2ug.org/listinfo/u2-users
[U2] Universe SIMPLE database management tool
Wondering if anyone has had any experience with the SIMPLE (originally marketed by Vmark) database management tool, running on Universe. We currently have a Universe system with the SIMPLE tool installed. Management has asked that we look into stripping SIMPLE out of Universe or find out if any conversion tools exist to convert to another more scalable database management tool. Our use of the tool is limited mainly to screen processing (SCREENS file). If anyone has any information I'd greatly appreciate it. Rob Thometz Info Tech Analyst City of St. Paul, Minnesota --- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.u2ug.org/listinfo/u2-users
