Re: [U2C] RE: [U2] [RANT] HTH

2005-09-16 Thread U2UG 

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[U2C] RE: [U2] [RANT] HTH

2005-09-16 Thread Raymond DeGennaro II 

At 14:01 -0700 2005/09/15, Allen E. Elwood wrote:

So, using this, TLA is a three letter abbreviation that stands for Three
Letter Acronym


So this is an Eponymous Initialism?

Ray
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RE: [U2] [RANT] HTH

2005-09-15 Thread Allen E. Elwood 
So, using this, TLA is a three letter abbreviation that stands for Three
Letter Acronym

Gotta love it.(probably time to move this to community)


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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Keith W. Roberts
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2005 13:43
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Subject: RE: [U2] [RANT] HTH


Interesting.  From Wiktionary on "acronym" (edited slightly):


Acronyms and initialisms are abbreviations formed from the initial letter or
letters of words, such as NATO and XHTML, and are pronounced in a way that
is distinct from the full pronunciation of what the letters stand for.

Of the two words, acronym is the much more frequently used and known, and
many dictionaries, speakers and writers refer to all abbreviations formed
from initial letters as acronyms. However, some still differentiate between
acronyms and initialisms: an acronym was originally a pronounceable word
formed from the initial letter or letters of the constituent words, such as
NATO or RADAR (from RAdio Detection And Ranging), while an initialism
referred to an abbreviation pronounced as the names of the individual
letters, such as TLA. The distinction is quickly becoming obsolete: although
conservative commentators continue to decry the loss of the distinction in
style guides and elsewhere, the word acronym is used nearly universally for
both meanings.


So HTH is actually an "initialism", because it is not pronounceable ( except
as a sneeze :).  First I'd ever heard of the term.

-Keith

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> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
> Stevenson, Charles
> Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2005 9:14 AM
> To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
> Subject: RE: [U2] [RANT] HTH
>
> yeah,, and HTH and CTDSL are "initials" not "acronymns".
> Acronyms are initials that are pronounced as a single word.
> NASA & NATO are acronyms.
> UN is not.
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
> Don Verhagen
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2005 10:41 AM
> > To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
> > Subject: [U2] [RANT] HTH
> >
> > CTDSL = CHANGE THE DAMN SUBJECT LINE.
> >
> > Re: [U2]UD Login User
> > There we more postings under the original subject line
> > related to HTH than the OP (Original Post).
> >
> >
> >
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> > >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12:04:14 PM 09/14/2005 >>>
> > Hope that helps!(You can check out acronyms like that at
> > http://www.ucc.ie/cgi-bin/acronym/acro.html)
> >
> > Susan
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Marilyn Hilb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: 
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2005 11:00 AM
> > Subject: RE: [U2]UD Login User
> >
> >
> > > Ok. I have to ask.. What does hth mean??
> > >
> > > HTH,
> > >
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RE: [U2] [RANT] HTH

2005-09-15 Thread Keith W. Roberts 
Interesting.  From Wiktionary on "acronym" (edited slightly):


Acronyms and initialisms are abbreviations formed from the initial letter or
letters of words, such as NATO and XHTML, and are pronounced in a way that
is distinct from the full pronunciation of what the letters stand for.

Of the two words, acronym is the much more frequently used and known, and
many dictionaries, speakers and writers refer to all abbreviations formed
from initial letters as acronyms. However, some still differentiate between
acronyms and initialisms: an acronym was originally a pronounceable word
formed from the initial letter or letters of the constituent words, such as
NATO or RADAR (from RAdio Detection And Ranging), while an initialism
referred to an abbreviation pronounced as the names of the individual
letters, such as TLA. The distinction is quickly becoming obsolete: although
conservative commentators continue to decry the loss of the distinction in
style guides and elsewhere, the word acronym is used nearly universally for
both meanings.


So HTH is actually an "initialism", because it is not pronounceable ( except
as a sneeze :).  First I'd ever heard of the term.

-Keith

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
> Stevenson, Charles
> Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2005 9:14 AM
> To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
> Subject: RE: [U2] [RANT] HTH
> 
> yeah,, and HTH and CTDSL are "initials" not "acronymns".
> Acronyms are initials that are pronounced as a single word.
> NASA & NATO are acronyms. 
> UN is not.
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
> Don Verhagen
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2005 10:41 AM
> > To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
> > Subject: [U2] [RANT] HTH
> > 
> > CTDSL = CHANGE THE DAMN SUBJECT LINE.
> > 
> > Re: [U2]UD Login User
> > There we more postings under the original subject line 
> > related to HTH than the OP (Original Post).
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > * Please NOTE NEW Telephone Number *
> > --
> > Donald Verhagen  
> > Application Development Manager
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Tandem Staffing Solutions, Inc.
> > 1690 S Congress Avenue, Suite 210
> > Delray Beach, FL 33445  USA
> > Voice Phone: 561.226.8261 Fax Phone: 561.226.8118
> > 
> > >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12:04:14 PM 09/14/2005 >>>
> > Hope that helps!(You can check out acronyms like that at
> > http://www.ucc.ie/cgi-bin/acronym/acro.html)
> > 
> > Susan
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Marilyn Hilb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: 
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2005 11:00 AM
> > Subject: RE: [U2]UD Login User
> > 
> > 
> > > Ok. I have to ask.. What does hth mean??
> > >
> > > HTH,
> > >
> > > Jeff Fitzgerald
> > > Fitzgerald & Long, Inc.
> > > ---
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RE: [U2] [RANT] HTH

2005-09-15 Thread George Gallen 
Unless of course you call it the un-building,
like 7-up, the un-cola.

Do initials become acronyms if the words are
hard to pronounce? I mean, I can say HTH, just
when you do, people tend to say "bless you"

George

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Charles
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Subject: RE: [U2] [RANT] HTH


yeah,, and HTH and CTDSL are "initials" not "acronymns".
Acronyms are initials that are pronounced as a single word.
NASA & NATO are acronyms. 
UN is not.
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RE: [U2] [RANT] HTH

2005-09-15 Thread Stevenson, Charles 
yeah,, and HTH and CTDSL are "initials" not "acronymns".
Acronyms are initials that are pronounced as a single word.
NASA & NATO are acronyms. 
UN is not.

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Don Verhagen
> Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2005 10:41 AM
> To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
> Subject: [U2] [RANT] HTH
> 
> CTDSL = CHANGE THE DAMN SUBJECT LINE.
> 
> Re: [U2]UD Login User
> There we more postings under the original subject line 
> related to HTH than the OP (Original Post).
> 
> 
> 
> * Please NOTE NEW Telephone Number *
> --
> Donald Verhagen  
> Application Development Manager
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Tandem Staffing Solutions, Inc.
> 1690 S Congress Avenue, Suite 210
> Delray Beach, FL 33445  USA
> Voice Phone: 561.226.8261 Fax Phone: 561.226.8118
> 
> >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12:04:14 PM 09/14/2005 >>>
> Hope that helps!(You can check out acronyms like that at
> http://www.ucc.ie/cgi-bin/acronym/acro.html)
> 
> Susan
> - Original Message -
> From: "Marilyn Hilb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2005 11:00 AM
> Subject: RE: [U2]UD Login User
> 
> 
> > Ok. I have to ask.. What does hth mean??
> >
> > HTH,
> >
> > Jeff Fitzgerald
> > Fitzgerald & Long, Inc.
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