RE: [U2] RE: [UD] BSELECT @SYSTEM.RETURN.CODE anomaly

2007-06-28 Thread Dean.Armbruster
According to the UniData documentation (UniData UniBasic Commands
Reference (BASR.pdf), Appendix B), @SYSTEM.RETURN.CODE is supposed to be
the number of items in the select list.  This is for all the various
SELECT commands, (SELECT, SSELECT, NSELECT, QSELECT), not just BSELECT.

Using the example below, @SYSTEM.RETURN.CODE should be 60, just like
SYSTEM(11).  It should not be 20, which is the number of records
scanned/queried.  If other selects worked that way, then @SYSTEM.RETURN
code for any SELECT would return the number or records in the file, or
the number of items in an active list before the command was executed.
For example, if there were 100 Customers, 20 of which were in Ohio, the
SELECT CUSTOMER WITH STATE = OH would select 20 records with
@SYSTEM.RETURN.CODE = 100 and SYSTEM(11) = 20.


[re: OFF TOPIC ASIDE]
That is our typical structure also, but there are times where we do
multiple selects and that is where BSELECT bit us.  Something like this:

EXECUTE \BSELECT PO.HEADER WITH DATE EQ 6/27 DIRECT.INVOICES\
IF @SYSTEM.RETURN.CODE GT 0 THEN
  EXECUTE \BSELECT AP.TO.PO.XREF WITH VENDOR EQ 12345 PURCH.AGENT\

If there were PO.HEADER records that met the selection criterion but
DIRECT.INVOICES were null for all, there would be no active list after
the first BSELECT.  Unfortunately, @SYSTEM.RETURN.CODE will not be 0, so
the second BSELECT will execute but act against the whole file instead
of a limited list, which is not the intended action.

[/re: OFF TOPIC ASIDE]



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 Dean Armbruster wrote on 26 Jun 2007 16:14:21 -0400
 
  ... This is about BSELECT ...
 
  @SYSTEM.RETURN.CODE is not supposed to be the number of
  *records* selected.  It is supposed to be the number of 
 items in the 
  select list.
 
 I would suggest that, in this case, the documentation is 
 incorrect (or at least unclear), not the return code.
 
 Why?  Because BSELECT allows you to select more than one 
 attribute.  From the help:
 
 Unlike the SELECT command, which retrieves only record IDs, 
 BSELECT builds a list of the attributes you name in the 
 UniQuery statement.
 
 Typically, this command is used to get record ID's stored in 
 one file (e.g., BSELECT ORDER.HEADER LINE.KEY), but it can 
 also be used to get a SET of fields.  For example, 
 
 BSELECT CUSTOMER WITH STATE = OH NAME PHONE FAX
 
 In this case, I would get a list with (typically) three 
 entries for each of my Customers in Ohio:  Name, Phone and 
 Fax, in repeating order.  If I have 20 customers in Ohio 
 would expect @SYSTEM.RETURN.CODE to return 20 (the number of 
 items/records selected), and I would expect SYSTEM(11) would 
 have the total number of items in my list (i.e., 60).  
 However, if any of the fields were multi-valued, I would get 
 ALL of those values in my list, just as if I had used a 
 BY-EXP in a sort.
 
  Watch out!  @SYSTEM.RETURN.CODE for BSELECT is not what the 
  documentation says it is.  Your list may not have the number of 
  entries indicated.  Your list may even be empty even though 
  @SYSTEM.RETURN.CODE is greater than zero.
 
 Can you support this last statement?  In every test I ran, 
 @SYSTEM.RETURN.CODE was the number of records selected, and 
 @SYSTEM(11) was the total number of items.  Of course, I tend 
 to BSELECT FILE WITH ATTR ATTR...
 
 --Tom Pellitieri
   Century Equipment
 
 [OFF TOPIC ASIDE]
 
 For what it's worth, I was taught to check SYSTEM(11) for the 
 number of items returned by an EXECUTE statement, although 
 typically I don't check it at all.  My usual processing loop uses:
 
 CTR = 0
 EXECUTE \SELECT ...\
 LOOP WHILE READNEXT ID DO
   CTR += 1
   ...
 REPEAT
 
 So CTR has my processed count, and if there isn't anything to 
 process, the loop exits immediately.
 
 [/OFF TOPIC ASIDE]
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RE: [U2] RE: [UD] BSELECT @SYSTEM.RETURN.CODE anomaly

2007-06-27 Thread TPellitieri
Dean Armbruster wrote on 26 Jun 2007 16:14:21 -0400

 ... This is about BSELECT ...

 @SYSTEM.RETURN.CODE is not supposed to be the number of
 *records* selected.  It is supposed to be the number of
 items in the select list.

I would suggest that, in this case, the documentation is incorrect (or at 
least unclear), not the return code.

Why?  Because BSELECT allows you to select more than one attribute.  From 
the help:

Unlike the SELECT command, which retrieves only record
IDs, BSELECT builds a list of the attributes you name in
the UniQuery statement.

Typically, this command is used to get record ID's stored in one file 
(e.g., BSELECT ORDER.HEADER LINE.KEY), but it can also be used to get a 
SET of fields.  For example, 

BSELECT CUSTOMER WITH STATE = OH NAME PHONE FAX

In this case, I would get a list with (typically) three entries for each 
of my Customers in Ohio:  Name, Phone and Fax, in repeating order.  If I 
have 20 customers in Ohio would expect @SYSTEM.RETURN.CODE to return 20 
(the number of items/records selected), and I would expect SYSTEM(11) 
would have the total number of items in my list (i.e., 60).  However, if 
any of the fields were multi-valued, I would get ALL of those values in my 
list, just as if I had used a BY-EXP in a sort.

 Watch out!  @SYSTEM.RETURN.CODE for BSELECT is not what
 the documentation says it is.  Your list may not have
 the number of entries indicated.  Your list may even be
 empty even though @SYSTEM.RETURN.CODE is greater than zero.

Can you support this last statement?  In every test I ran, 
@SYSTEM.RETURN.CODE was the number of records selected, and @SYSTEM(11) 
was the total number of items.  Of course, I tend to BSELECT FILE WITH 
ATTR ATTR...

--Tom Pellitieri
  Century Equipment

[OFF TOPIC ASIDE]

For what it's worth, I was taught to check SYSTEM(11) for the number of 
items returned by an EXECUTE statement, although typically I don't check 
it at all.  My usual processing loop uses:

CTR = 0
EXECUTE \SELECT ...\
LOOP WHILE READNEXT ID DO
  CTR += 1
  ...
REPEAT

So CTR has my processed count, and if there isn't anything to process, the 
loop exits immediately.

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RE: [U2] RE: [UD] BSELECT @SYSTEM.RETURN.CODE anomaly

2007-06-26 Thread Jerry Banker
Does the same thing happen when you use SELECT filename SAVING [UNIQUE]
field NO.NULLS?
I'm not on Unidata so I can't try it. Universe doesn't have the BSELECT
command.
@SYSTEM.RETURN.CODE only returns 0 on a select so we use @SELECTED which
does return the full amount in the select list.

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Sent: Monday, June 25, 2007 4:20 PM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: [U2] RE: [UD] BSELECT @SYSTEM.RETURN.CODE anomaly

My apologies for the poor job I did posting this.  I sent it before I
had completed the subscribe procedures.  I blame it on my vacation.  :-)

Because of my mistake, I didn't get the replies.  I had to get them from
the list archive.  Here are my replies to the replies:


To Dave Davis, who said, If you were curious about the number of
customers queried couldn't you just do a SELECT CUSTOMER first?

I agree.  Or, if you had done a previous select to whittle down the
list, you'd already know how many records would be queried for the
BSELECT.


To David A. Green, who said, SYSTEM(11) returns number of items in the
active select list.  I think we should leave the @SYSTEM.RETURN.CODE as
the number of records
selected.

@SYSTEM.RETURN.CODE is NOT the number of records selected.  That is the
problem.  It is the number of records queried/polled, not the number of
items returned in the select list.  Those numbers will not be the same
for a multivalued attribute or if the attribute is null and UDT.OPTION
59 is ON.

Try this and see if you feel the same way about @SYSTEM.RETURN.CODE:

EXECUTE 'UDT.OPTIONS 59 ON'
CMD1 = 'BSELECT CUSTOMER WITH @ID GE 200 TAPES_RENTED'
CRT CMD1
EXECUTE CMD1
IF @SYSTEM.RETURN.CODE GT 0 THEN
  CMD2 = 'DELETE TAPES'
  CRT ; CRT CMD2
  EXECUTE CMD2
END

SYSTEM(11) is our workaround.  But it is a pain because:
A) It is non-standard, i.e. not necessary for other SELECTs.
B) It is not what the documentation says.  BASR.pdf states that
@SYSTEM.RETURN.CODE will contain the number of items in the select list.
C) If the program reports errors, it must first check
@SYSTEM.RETURN.CODE, and if okay then check SYSTEM(11).



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 Sent: Friday, June 22, 2007 6:15 PM
 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org; Dean Armbruster - 0018 HQ
 Subject: [UD] BSELECT @SYSTEM.RETURN.CODE anomaly
 
 REPOSTED FOR NON-MEMBER ADDRESS: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 I'd looking for feedback on @SYSTEM.RETURN.CODE as returned 
 from BSELECT of a multivalue attribute.
 
 Run the following basic code in the UniData demo account:
 
 CMD = 'BSELECT CUSTOMER TAPES_RENTED'
 CRT CMD
 EXECUTE CMD
 CRT '@SYSTEM.RETURN.CODE = ':@SYSTEM.RETURN.CODE CLEARSELECT
 
 When I run it, I get:
 
 BSELECT CUSTOMER TAPES_RENTED
 
 36 records selected to list 0.
 
 @SYSTEM.RETURN.CODE = 29
 
 
 Note that 29 is the number of records in CUSTOMER; 36 is then 
 number of items in the returned active select list.
 
 
 The questions:  Is there any way a program could depend on 
 @SYSTEM.RETURN.CODE being incorrect some of the time?  Would 
 anyone want @SYSTEM.RETURN.CODE to be the number records 
 polled and not number of items in the returned list, even if 
 the number of items returned is 0?
 
 
 IBM case #423086*USA
 
 UniData 6.1.18
 HP-UX 11.11
 ECLTYPE P
 UDT.OPTIONS 59 ON
 
 
 Dean Armbruster
 System Analyst
 Wolseley North American Division * 12500 Jefferson Avenue * 
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 * VA * 23602-4314
 T: +1(757) 989-2839 * F: +1(757)989-2801
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RE: [U2] RE: [UD] BSELECT @SYSTEM.RETURN.CODE anomaly

2007-06-26 Thread Anthony Youngman
What are you trying to say here? You don't make sense (sorry).

Not knowing UD, I have to be careful here, but if I'm selecting BY.EXP a
multi-value field, I would NOT expect the number of records selected to
be the same as the number of items in the select list.

I'm getting the impression that @SYSTEM.RETURN.CODE *IS* the number of
records selected. Thing is, you're asking it to count records multiple
times if the same record appears multiple times in the select list.

Let's say we have 10 records, half of them with two items in an MV
field, and the rest with just one. Am I correct in thinking that, if you
do a SELECT BY.EXP, the @SYSTEM.RETURN.CODE is 10, the number of
*records* selected, while SYSTEM(11) is 15, the number of *items* in the
select list?

Hope this clarifies things :-)

Cheers,
Wol

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From: Jerry Banker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 26 June 2007 14:24
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: RE: [U2] RE: [UD] BSELECT @SYSTEM.RETURN.CODE anomaly


To David A. Green, who said, SYSTEM(11) returns number of items in the
active select list.  I think we should leave the @SYSTEM.RETURN.CODE as
the number of records
selected.

@SYSTEM.RETURN.CODE is NOT the number of records selected.  That is the
problem.  It is the number of records queried/polled, not the number of
items returned in the select list.  Those numbers will not be the same
for a multivalued attribute or if the attribute is null and UDT.OPTION
59 is ON.
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RE: [U2] RE: [UD] BSELECT @SYSTEM.RETURN.CODE anomaly

2007-06-26 Thread Dean.Armbruster
SELECT with the SAVING keyword, with or without NO.NULLS, returned the
correct value in @SYSTEM.RETURN.CODE, in my tests.

I don't know or have Universe, so I could be wrong, but it appears you
have an implied BSELECT, as demonstrated with the SAVING keyword.  A
BSELECT is, as quoted from the UniData UniQuery doc:

BSELECT filename ['record_IDs'][selection_criteria] attribute
[attribute...]

The UniQuery BSELECT command retrieves data from a file into an active
select list.  Unlike the SELECT command, which retrieves only record
IDs, BSELECT builds a list of the attributes you name in the UniQuery
statement.  You must name at least one attribute in the statement.


In UniData, you can also do an implied BSELECT by following the same
syntax as BSELECT  in a SELECT command.

UniData does not have @SELECTED.  @SYSTEM.RETURN.CODE is normally an
error code (if negative) or the number of items in the select list (if
non-negative) for any executed UniQuery commands dealing with select
lists.  It is misbehaving for BSELECT.


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jerry Banker
 Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2007 9:24 AM
 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
 Subject: RE: [U2] RE: [UD] BSELECT @SYSTEM.RETURN.CODE anomaly
 
 Does the same thing happen when you use SELECT filename 
 SAVING [UNIQUE] field NO.NULLS?
 I'm not on Unidata so I can't try it. Universe doesn't have 
 the BSELECT command.
 @SYSTEM.RETURN.CODE only returns 0 on a select so we use 
 @SELECTED which does return the full amount in the select list.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 Sent: Monday, June 25, 2007 4:20 PM
 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
 Subject: [U2] RE: [UD] BSELECT @SYSTEM.RETURN.CODE anomaly
 
 My apologies for the poor job I did posting this.  I sent it 
 before I had completed the subscribe procedures.  I blame it 
 on my vacation.  :-)
 
 Because of my mistake, I didn't get the replies.  I had to 
 get them from the list archive.  Here are my replies to the replies:
 
 
 To Dave Davis, who said, If you were curious about the 
 number of customers queried couldn't you just do a SELECT 
 CUSTOMER first?
 
 I agree.  Or, if you had done a previous select to whittle 
 down the list, you'd already know how many records would be 
 queried for the BSELECT.
 
 
 To David A. Green, who said, SYSTEM(11) returns number of 
 items in the active select list.  I think we should leave the 
 @SYSTEM.RETURN.CODE as the number of records selected.
 
 @SYSTEM.RETURN.CODE is NOT the number of records selected.  
 That is the problem.  It is the number of records 
 queried/polled, not the number of items returned in the 
 select list.  Those numbers will not be the same for a 
 multivalued attribute or if the attribute is null and UDT.OPTION
 59 is ON.
 
 Try this and see if you feel the same way about @SYSTEM.RETURN.CODE:
 
 EXECUTE 'UDT.OPTIONS 59 ON'
 CMD1 = 'BSELECT CUSTOMER WITH @ID GE 200 TAPES_RENTED'
 CRT CMD1
 EXECUTE CMD1
 IF @SYSTEM.RETURN.CODE GT 0 THEN
   CMD2 = 'DELETE TAPES'
   CRT ; CRT CMD2
   EXECUTE CMD2
 END
 
 SYSTEM(11) is our workaround.  But it is a pain because:
 A) It is non-standard, i.e. not necessary for other SELECTs.
 B) It is not what the documentation says.  BASR.pdf states 
 that @SYSTEM.RETURN.CODE will contain the number of items in 
 the select list.
 C) If the program reports errors, it must first check 
 @SYSTEM.RETURN.CODE, and if okay then check SYSTEM(11).
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RE: [U2] RE: [UD] BSELECT @SYSTEM.RETURN.CODE anomaly

2007-06-26 Thread Jerry Banker
The @SYSTEM.RETURN.CODE you describe is the same as it was on PI which
also didn't have an @SELECTED. At least I don't remember one. Of course
they didn't have a BSELECT either.

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Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2007 2:34 PM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: RE: [U2] RE: [UD] BSELECT @SYSTEM.RETURN.CODE anomaly

SELECT with the SAVING keyword, with or without NO.NULLS, returned the
correct value in @SYSTEM.RETURN.CODE, in my tests.

I don't know or have Universe, so I could be wrong, but it appears you
have an implied BSELECT, as demonstrated with the SAVING keyword.  A
BSELECT is, as quoted from the UniData UniQuery doc:

BSELECT filename ['record_IDs'][selection_criteria] attribute
[attribute...]

The UniQuery BSELECT command retrieves data from a file into an active
select list.  Unlike the SELECT command, which retrieves only record
IDs, BSELECT builds a list of the attributes you name in the UniQuery
statement.  You must name at least one attribute in the statement.


In UniData, you can also do an implied BSELECT by following the same
syntax as BSELECT  in a SELECT command.

UniData does not have @SELECTED.  @SYSTEM.RETURN.CODE is normally an
error code (if negative) or the number of items in the select list (if
non-negative) for any executed UniQuery commands dealing with select
lists.  It is misbehaving for BSELECT.


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jerry Banker
 Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2007 9:24 AM
 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
 Subject: RE: [U2] RE: [UD] BSELECT @SYSTEM.RETURN.CODE anomaly
 
 Does the same thing happen when you use SELECT filename 
 SAVING [UNIQUE] field NO.NULLS?
 I'm not on Unidata so I can't try it. Universe doesn't have 
 the BSELECT command.
 @SYSTEM.RETURN.CODE only returns 0 on a select so we use 
 @SELECTED which does return the full amount in the select list.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 Sent: Monday, June 25, 2007 4:20 PM
 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
 Subject: [U2] RE: [UD] BSELECT @SYSTEM.RETURN.CODE anomaly
 
 My apologies for the poor job I did posting this.  I sent it 
 before I had completed the subscribe procedures.  I blame it 
 on my vacation.  :-)
 
 Because of my mistake, I didn't get the replies.  I had to 
 get them from the list archive.  Here are my replies to the replies:
 
 
 To Dave Davis, who said, If you were curious about the 
 number of customers queried couldn't you just do a SELECT 
 CUSTOMER first?
 
 I agree.  Or, if you had done a previous select to whittle 
 down the list, you'd already know how many records would be 
 queried for the BSELECT.
 
 
 To David A. Green, who said, SYSTEM(11) returns number of 
 items in the active select list.  I think we should leave the 
 @SYSTEM.RETURN.CODE as the number of records selected.
 
 @SYSTEM.RETURN.CODE is NOT the number of records selected.  
 That is the problem.  It is the number of records 
 queried/polled, not the number of items returned in the 
 select list.  Those numbers will not be the same for a 
 multivalued attribute or if the attribute is null and UDT.OPTION
 59 is ON.
 
 Try this and see if you feel the same way about @SYSTEM.RETURN.CODE:
 
 EXECUTE 'UDT.OPTIONS 59 ON'
 CMD1 = 'BSELECT CUSTOMER WITH @ID GE 200 TAPES_RENTED'
 CRT CMD1
 EXECUTE CMD1
 IF @SYSTEM.RETURN.CODE GT 0 THEN
   CMD2 = 'DELETE TAPES'
   CRT ; CRT CMD2
   EXECUTE CMD2
 END
 
 SYSTEM(11) is our workaround.  But it is a pain because:
 A) It is non-standard, i.e. not necessary for other SELECTs.
 B) It is not what the documentation says.  BASR.pdf states 
 that @SYSTEM.RETURN.CODE will contain the number of items in 
 the select list.
 C) If the program reports errors, it must first check 
 @SYSTEM.RETURN.CODE, and if okay then check SYSTEM(11).
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RE: [U2] RE: [UD] BSELECT @SYSTEM.RETURN.CODE anomaly

2007-06-26 Thread Dean.Armbruster
BY.EXP does not factor in.  This is about BSELECT, regardless of BY.EXP
use. 

@SYSTEM.RETURN.CODE is not supposed to be the number of *records*
selected.  It is supposed to be the number of items in the select list.

From the UniData UniBasic Commands Reference (BASR.pdf), Appendix B:

ECL @SYSTEM.RETURN.CODE Values

The following table describes the possible @SYSTEM.RETURN.CODE values
for various ECL commands.

Command Success Return Value
- -
BSELECT The number of items in the select list.


What I'm saying:

Watch out!  @SYSTEM.RETURN.CODE for BSELECT is not what the
documentation says it is.  Your list may not have the number of entries
indicated.  Your list may even be empty even though @SYSTEM.RETURN.CODE
is greater than zero.

IBM is reluctant to change this behavior for fear that some application
somewhere may be relying on @SYSTEM.RETURN.CODE being incorrect.  How an
application can rely on something that is never always correct nor
always incorrect is beyond me.


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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
 Anthony Youngman
 Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2007 10:12 AM
 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
 Subject: RE: [U2] RE: [UD] BSELECT @SYSTEM.RETURN.CODE anomaly
 
 What are you trying to say here? You don't make sense (sorry).
 
 Not knowing UD, I have to be careful here, but if I'm 
 selecting BY.EXP a multi-value field, I would NOT expect the 
 number of records selected to be the same as the number of 
 items in the select list.
 
 I'm getting the impression that @SYSTEM.RETURN.CODE *IS* the 
 number of records selected. Thing is, you're asking it to 
 count records multiple times if the same record appears 
 multiple times in the select list.
 
 Let's say we have 10 records, half of them with two items in 
 an MV field, and the rest with just one. Am I correct in 
 thinking that, if you do a SELECT BY.EXP, the 
 @SYSTEM.RETURN.CODE is 10, the number of
 *records* selected, while SYSTEM(11) is 15, the number of 
 *items* in the select list?
 
 Hope this clarifies things :-)
 
 Cheers,
 Wol
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Jerry Banker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 26 June 2007 14:24
 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
 Subject: RE: [U2] RE: [UD] BSELECT @SYSTEM.RETURN.CODE anomaly
 
 
 To David A. Green, who said, SYSTEM(11) returns number of 
 items in the
 active select list.  I think we should leave the 
 @SYSTEM.RETURN.CODE as
 the number of records
 selected.
 
 @SYSTEM.RETURN.CODE is NOT the number of records selected.  
 That is the
 problem.  It is the number of records queried/polled, not the 
 number of
 items returned in the select list.  Those numbers will not be the same
 for a multivalued attribute or if the attribute is null and UDT.OPTION
 59 is ON.
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