Re: [U2] RE: free info - was XML and Accuterm
Tony wrote on 25/08/2005 21:09:03: I'll also note that Rob Wills just went to the Accuterm web site and got info that anyone could get, and generously volunteered to come up with more info from research tomorrow. That's very helpful and I'd usually do the same myself, but in this case Rob is volunteering to do research simply because Will doesn't feel like doing it. That is so wrong. Actually the only reason I got involved was because someone said it couldn't be done using Accuterm. I stuck my neck out to say it probably could and then felt that I had to justify my opinion. I find the forum incredibly useful as a resource and feel it is important to correct anything that is mistakenly posted. Regards, Rob Wills (rob dot wills at tigerinfotech dot com) --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
Re: [U2] RE: free info - was XML and Accuterm
In a message dated 8/26/2005 1:55:04 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Actually the only reason I got involved was because someone said it couldn't be done using Accuterm. I stuck my neck out to say it probably could and then felt that I had to justify my opinion. I'm sure it *can* be done, and I have done similar things with Accuterm. Just not quite this similar ... I'm not comfortable or familiar with exactly how you go about sending a request that includes *content* like click here, enter this, click there, get a response or alternatively here is my XML data to which I will wait for a response for you Mr Web service thingie. So that's why I asked for a specific example of how you do that. Now if someone asks me how to calculate reorder figures on a seasonal-and-slightly-custom inventory item, that's more up my alley. Will Johnson --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
Re: [U2] RE: free info - was XML and Accuterm
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Re: [U2] RE: free info - was XML and Accuterm
It's even more thrilling when the people looking for the examples purport to being consultants themselves and are, in effect, competitors. God Bless ya Tony. Besides, you've reached a certain age you have the right to be curmudgeonly. Al Tony Gravagno wrote: Will wrote: Tony writes: have the client shell out, execute the function, return data to a local file, Do you have an example of how to execute a request like that in Windows or Unix and return the result to a local file? Thanks Sorry Will. This is my business. I take the time to research how to use technologies and I sell that information and related services to my clients who don't have the time to do that research on their own. I stop short of providing detailed code sequences especially when there are (in this case) examples provided with AccuTerm itself and in their web forum. For the XML request and parsing, I wrote a free series of articles on this topic in Spectrum magazine that spanned four issues and included links to a multitude of sites for information, freeware, and products. The world is full of examples like this and I don't think it's fair to put the burden on people in this forum to produce data that's easily available elsewhere. I'll also note that Rob Wills just went to the Accuterm web site and got info that anyone could get, and generously volunteered to come up with more info from research tomorrow. That's very helpful and I'd usually do the same myself, but in this case Rob is volunteering to do research simply because Will doesn't feel like doing it. That is so wrong. I'm only going off on this because this request for examples reminds me of the how do I connect to the web thread that went on for weeks with detailed solutions - simply because a couple people wanted the information spoon fed to them without doing their homework outside of this U2-specific forum. C'mon, you don't want examples, you want copy/paste code for your specific project and the questions will keep coming until every aspect of the project is complete. I know this is harsh. But every time I post a note like this somewhere I get flamed by some people for being a grouch and I get emails of praise from others for drawing the line somewhere - I'll take the risk. I'm sorry, I'll provide as much free info as I can to benefit as many people as possible, and I've been doing so in MV forums like this for over 10 years. But when the questions get this specific I have to ask people to do their own homework. There are those of us who work hard and study hard so that we can sell our knowledge as a product and thus pay our bills. There is value to what we do, as is evident by the fact that people are going to take info they find here and sell it to someone else as their own know-how. There's no accident to my calling my company Research and Development. We'll do the research and/or we'll do the development - we consider both of these as equally valuable offerings in this market where many people need as much information as they need assistance with development using modern technologies. Tony Gravagno Nebula Research and Development --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2] RE: free info - was XML and Accuterm
Ok. What the heck is curmudgeonly and how to you pronounce it! lol! Thanks, Marilyn A. Hilb [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.valuepart.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Allen Bell Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2005 3:23 PM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject:Re: [U2] RE: free info - was XML and Accuterm It's even more thrilling when the people looking for the examples purport to being consultants themselves and are, in effect, competitors. God Bless ya Tony. Besides, you've reached a certain age you have the right to be curmudgeonly. Al --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2] RE: free info - was XML and Accuterm
From www.dictionary.com Dictionary - Thesaurus - Web Top Web Results for curmudgeonly 2 entries found for curmudgeonly. cur7mudg7eon( P ) Pronunciation Key (kr-mjn) n. An ill-tempered person full of resentment and stubborn notions. [Origin unknown.] cur7mudgeon7ly adj. cur7mudgeon7ry n. Source: The American Heritage. Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition Copyright ) 2000 by Houghton Mifflin Company. Published by Houghton Mifflin Company. All rights reserved. curmudgeonly adj : brusque and surly and forbidding; crusty remarks; a crusty old man; his curmudgeonly temper; gruff manner; a gruff reply [syn: crusty, gruff, ill-humored, ill-humoured] Source: WordNet . 2.0, ) 2003 Princeton University -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Marilyn Hilb Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2005 14:02 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: RE: [U2] RE: free info - was XML and Accuterm Ok. What the heck is curmudgeonly and how to you pronounce it! lol! Thanks, Marilyn A. Hilb [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.valuepart.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Allen Bell Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2005 3:23 PM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject:Re: [U2] RE: free info - was XML and Accuterm It's even more thrilling when the people looking for the examples purport to being consultants themselves and are, in effect, competitors. God Bless ya Tony. Besides, you've reached a certain age you have the right to be curmudgeonly. Al --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2] RE: free info - was XML and Accuterm
Every party needs a pooper that's why we invited you **!!JUST KIDDING!!** I too make my living being an independent, and while I may give away small snippets of code from time to time, I draw the line there. If I see a .edu at the end of the sender's email address I will usually divulge more than normal. Live long and prosper Tony!! :) Allen -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Tony Gravagno Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2005 13:09 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: [U2] RE: free info - was XML and Accuterm Will wrote: Tony writes: have the client shell out, execute the function, return data to a local file, Do you have an example of how to execute a request like that in Windows or Unix and return the result to a local file? Thanks Sorry Will. This is my business. I take the time to research how to use technologies and I sell that information and related services to my clients who don't have the time to do that research on their own. I stop short of providing detailed code sequences especially when there are (in this case) examples provided with AccuTerm itself and in their web forum. For the XML request and parsing, I wrote a free series of articles on this topic in Spectrum magazine that spanned four issues and included links to a multitude of sites for information, freeware, and products. The world is full of examples like this and I don't think it's fair to put the burden on people in this forum to produce data that's easily available elsewhere. I'll also note that Rob Wills just went to the Accuterm web site and got info that anyone could get, and generously volunteered to come up with more info from research tomorrow. That's very helpful and I'd usually do the same myself, but in this case Rob is volunteering to do research simply because Will doesn't feel like doing it. That is so wrong. I'm only going off on this because this request for examples reminds me of the how do I connect to the web thread that went on for weeks with detailed solutions - simply because a couple people wanted the information spoon fed to them without doing their homework outside of this U2-specific forum. C'mon, you don't want examples, you want copy/paste code for your specific project and the questions will keep coming until every aspect of the project is complete. I know this is harsh. But every time I post a note like this somewhere I get flamed by some people for being a grouch and I get emails of praise from others for drawing the line somewhere - I'll take the risk. I'm sorry, I'll provide as much free info as I can to benefit as many people as possible, and I've been doing so in MV forums like this for over 10 years. But when the questions get this specific I have to ask people to do their own homework. There are those of us who work hard and study hard so that we can sell our knowledge as a product and thus pay our bills. There is value to what we do, as is evident by the fact that people are going to take info they find here and sell it to someone else as their own know-how. There's no accident to my calling my company Research and Development. We'll do the research and/or we'll do the development - we consider both of these as equally valuable offerings in this market where many people need as much information as they need assistance with development using modern technologies. Tony Gravagno Nebula Research and Development --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
Re: [U2] RE: free info - was XML and Accuterm
In a message dated 8/25/05 1:15:26 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I stop short of providing detailed code sequences especially when there are (in this case) examples provided with AccuTerm itself and in their web forum. Actually I already asked Pete at Accusoft and he said there are no such examples. I think you misread what was posted. But thanks. Will Johnson --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
Re: [U2] RE: free info - was XML and Accuterm
In a message dated 8/25/05 1:15:26 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I know this is harsh. But every time I post a note like this somewhere I get flamed by some people for being a grouch Tony your public insulting is out-of-line. Thanks. Will Johnson --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
