Re: Unclassified RE: [U2] UniObjects for .NET (UO.NET)

2004-08-06 Thread Simon Lewington
Mike

The presentation point...

 *  Connection pooling for UO.NET provides good scalability

sounds like it could be sales guys and tech guys not talking properly.
Maybe the engineer said that dot net has object pooling built in, and the
presentation morphed that to UO.NET having connection pooling.

Then again who knows where they got the performance monitor from.

And...

 *  Modeled [sic] after UniObjects For Java with vast improvement

... what does that 'vast' mean?  It looks almost identical to UOJ to me.

The MSDN page I linked to was for the object pooling class - which should
allow one to pool UniSessions with a few tens of lines of code.

If its taken IBM this long to dot net UO anyway, then I personally am
thankful they didn't try to add anything new.  Maybe built-in connection
pooling (and an ado provider) is their next plan.

Simon

HENDERSON MICHAEL MR [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
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 Sorry, Simon, but I fail to see the relevance of that MSDN article.

 Under
 ms-help://MS.MSDNQTR.2004JUL.1033/dnbda/html/daag.htm#daag_managingdata
 baseconnections in the July 04 MSDN DVD, there is a section that deals
 with connection pooling and says
 ADO.NET data providers provide transparent connection pooling, the
 exact mechanics of which vary for each provider. This section discusses
 connection pooling in relation to:
 The SQL Server .NET Data Provider
 The Oracle .NET Data Provider
 The OLE DB .NET Data Provider
 The ODBC .NET Data Provider 

 I was hoping that the UO.NET Developer's Guide would contain similar
 information in respect to UO.NET.


 The presentation at last year's IBM DB2 Data management conference
 included (at slide 21) this feature list
 UniObjects For .NET ...
 *  100% Managed Code, written in C#
 *  Connection pooling for UO.NET provides good scalability
 *  Modeled [sic] after UniObjects For Java with vast improvement
 *  Performance monitor for Connection Pooling
 *  Standard Logging/Tracing for better troubleshooting

 The UO.NET Developer's Guide addresses the first, third and fifth
 points, but does not seem to mention the second and fourth at all.

 Hope this clarifies my point.

 Mike
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RE: Unclassified RE: [U2] UniObjects for .NET (UO.NET)

2004-08-06 Thread Veenhof, Peter
I have heard from IBM that connection pooling is there, they are just
working out licensing issues. Thus, the lack of comment.


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 *  Connection pooling for UO.NET provides good scalability

sounds like it could be sales guys and tech guys not talking properly.
Maybe the engineer said that dot net has object pooling built in, and
the
presentation morphed that to UO.NET having connection pooling.
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Re: Unclassified RE: [U2] UniObjects for .NET (UO.NET)

2004-08-05 Thread Simon Lewington
HENDERSON MICHAEL MR [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
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 Great stuff, but reading it I'm a little disappointed that there is no
 mention of Connection Pooling.  One of the previously advertised
 benefits of UO.NET was that it would include a connection pooling
 mechanism.  Has this 'fallen off' or is it documented somewhere else?

http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/en-us/cpref/html/frlrfSystemEnterpriseServicesServicedComponentClassTopic.asp

Simon
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RE: Unclassified RE: [U2] UniObjects for .NET (UO.NET)

2004-08-05 Thread Anthony Corrente
Hello Michael,

I heard that connection pooling was mentioned in the TOI, but I believe that
it was mentioned that it was under consideration.

I don't know anymore than that.

Hope this helps,
Anthony.

 --- HENDERSON MICHAEL MR [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
 Sorry, Simon, but I fail to see the relevance of that MSDN article.
 
 Under
 ms-help://MS.MSDNQTR.2004JUL.1033/dnbda/html/daag.htm#daag_managingdata
 baseconnections in the July 04 MSDN DVD, there is a section that deals
 with connection pooling and says
 ADO.NET data providers provide transparent connection pooling, the
 exact mechanics of which vary for each provider. This section discusses
 connection pooling in relation to: 
   The SQL Server .NET Data Provider 
   The Oracle .NET Data Provider 
   The OLE DB .NET Data Provider 
   The ODBC .NET Data Provider 
 
 I was hoping that the UO.NET Developer's Guide would contain similar
 information in respect to UO.NET.
 
 
 The presentation at last year's IBM DB2 Data management conference
 included (at slide 21) this feature list
 UniObjects For .NET ...
 *  100% Managed Code, written in C#
 *  Connection pooling for UO.NET provides good scalability
 *  Modeled [sic] after UniObjects For Java with vast improvement
 *  Performance monitor for Connection Pooling
 *  Standard Logging/Tracing for better troubleshooting
 
 The UO.NET Developer's Guide addresses the first, third and fifth
 points, but does not seem to mention the second and fourth at all.
 
 Hope this clarifies my point.
 
 Mike
 
 
 
 
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 ..
 
  Great stuff, but reading it I'm a little disappointed that there is no
 
  mention of Connection Pooling.  One of the previously advertised 
  benefits of UO.NET was that it would include a connection pooling 
  mechanism.  Has this 'fallen off' or is it documented somewhere else?
 
 http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/en-us/cpref/html/frlrfSystemEnterprise
 ServicesServicedComponentClassTopic.asp
 
 Simon
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Re: [U2] UniObjects for .NET (UO.NET)

2004-08-04 Thread Simon Lewington
As well as saying that UD 6.1 is required, the manual says at one point...

Note: Compression is not available when connecting to servers running a
version of UniVerse earlier than Release 9.5.

Does this suggest that this the unirpc server stuff is unchanged and so
UO.NET will actually work with earlier UD/UV releases?

Anyone from IBM care to hazard a guess in a non-committal manner?

Cheers
Simon.

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 What about uniVerse (with UO.NET) release date?


 Thanks
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Unclassified RE: [U2] UniObjects for .NET (UO.NET)

2004-08-04 Thread HENDERSON MICHAEL MR
Thanks, Anthony! 

Great stuff, but reading it I'm a little disappointed that there is no
mention of Connection Pooling.  One of the previously advertised
benefits of UO.NET was that it would include a connection pooling
mechanism.  Has this 'fallen off' or is it documented somewhere else?

Any ideas?


Regards

Mike

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Subject: RE: [U2] UniObjects for .NET (UO.NET)

Hi all,

I'm a little confused... does the following PDF not answer the UO.NET
questions posed so far? 

http://publibfi.boulder.ibm.com/epubs/pdf/25124070.pdf

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RE: [U2] UniObjects for .NET (UO.NET)

2004-08-03 Thread Tony Gravagno
From the text on the website and the conference info below I don't see how
UO.NET is similar or different compared to UO except that it's re-written to
be managed code.  Does it support the full UO API?  Does it support ADO.NET?
Connection pooling is interesting.  XML/DataSet support?  I hope that
doesn't imply using U2 XML support to populate a dataset - of course the web
page says the XML support is all new.  Is the SOAP interface through UO.NET?

Do we need to wait a month for the conference before getting more info?  :)

Thanks.
Tony
Nebula RD

Ron White wrote:

 The new UniObjects for .NET provides high-speed
 native access that runs in a managed .NET environment
 for increased performance.
 http://www-306.ibm.com/software/data/u2/unidata/ud61-ann.html

 From: Rajesh Menon
 Not sure when this will be available. But there is session for
 Uniobjects.NET (UO.NET) in the upcoming U2 and DB2 Information
 Management Technical Conference, September 2004 (LAS VEGAS)

 While all U2 Windows APIs are 100% compatible with .NET and can be
 used to develop .NET applications that talk to U2 databases, IBM U2
 users now have a new API developed just for .NET - UniObjects For
 .NET(UO.NET). A 100% managed interface, UO.NET integrates seamlessly
 with .NETand new features such as connection pooling and XML/DataSet
 support will greatly improve performance for U2 .NET applications. A
 live demo and examples will be given to the audience to highlight
 the many important features of UO.NET. 
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RE: [U2] UniObjects for .NET (UO.NET)

2004-08-03 Thread Rajesh Menon
I hope somebody from IBM-U2 will post some release dates for UO.NET here.
Otherwise wait until September :-)

-Rajesh

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tony Gravagno
Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2004 3:03 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [U2] UniObjects for .NET (UO.NET)

From the text on the website and the conference info below I don't see how
UO.NET is similar or different compared to UO except that it's re-written to
be managed code.  Does it support the full UO API?  Does it support ADO.NET?
Connection pooling is interesting.  XML/DataSet support?  I hope that
doesn't imply using U2 XML support to populate a dataset - of course the web
page says the XML support is all new.  Is the SOAP interface through UO.NET?

Do we need to wait a month for the conference before getting more info?  :)

Thanks.
Tony
Nebula RD

Ron White wrote:

 The new UniObjects for .NET provides high-speed
 native access that runs in a managed .NET environment
 for increased performance.
 http://www-306.ibm.com/software/data/u2/unidata/ud61-ann.html

 From: Rajesh Menon
 Not sure when this will be available. But there is session for
 Uniobjects.NET (UO.NET) in the upcoming U2 and DB2 Information
 Management Technical Conference, September 2004 (LAS VEGAS)

 While all U2 Windows APIs are 100% compatible with .NET and can be
 used to develop .NET applications that talk to U2 databases, IBM U2
 users now have a new API developed just for .NET - UniObjects For
 .NET(UO.NET). A 100% managed interface, UO.NET integrates seamlessly
 with .NETand new features such as connection pooling and XML/DataSet
 support will greatly improve performance for U2 .NET applications. A
 live demo and examples will be given to the audience to highlight
 the many important features of UO.NET. 
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Re: [U2] UniObjects for .NET (UO.NET)

2004-08-03 Thread Ralph Melia
UO.net will be included in the release of UD 6.1, which is due Aug. 10.


- Original Message - 
From: Rajesh Menon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2004 7:22 PM
Subject: RE: [U2] UniObjects for .NET (UO.NET)


 I hope somebody from IBM-U2 will post some release dates for UO.NET here.
 Otherwise wait until September :-)

 -Rajesh

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tony Gravagno
 Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2004 3:03 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [U2] UniObjects for .NET (UO.NET)

 From the text on the website and the conference info below I don't see how
 UO.NET is similar or different compared to UO except that it's re-written
to
 be managed code.  Does it support the full UO API?  Does it support
ADO.NET?
 Connection pooling is interesting.  XML/DataSet support?  I hope that
 doesn't imply using U2 XML support to populate a dataset - of course the
web
 page says the XML support is all new.  Is the SOAP interface through
UO.NET?

 Do we need to wait a month for the conference before getting more info?
:)

 Thanks.
 Tony
 Nebula RD

 Ron White wrote:

  The new UniObjects for .NET provides high-speed
  native access that runs in a managed .NET environment
  for increased performance.
  http://www-306.ibm.com/software/data/u2/unidata/ud61-ann.html

  From: Rajesh Menon
  Not sure when this will be available. But there is session for
  Uniobjects.NET (UO.NET) in the upcoming U2 and DB2 Information
  Management Technical Conference, September 2004 (LAS VEGAS)

  While all U2 Windows APIs are 100% compatible with .NET and can be
  used to develop .NET applications that talk to U2 databases, IBM U2
  users now have a new API developed just for .NET - UniObjects For
  .NET(UO.NET). A 100% managed interface, UO.NET integrates seamlessly
  with .NETand new features such as connection pooling and XML/DataSet
  support will greatly improve performance for U2 .NET applications. A
  live demo and examples will be given to the audience to highlight
  the many important features of UO.NET.
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RE: [U2] UniObjects for .NET (UO.NET)

2004-08-03 Thread Leroy Dreyfuss
I hope somebody from IBM-U2 will post some release dates for UO.NET here.
Otherwise wait until September :-)

The date is in the link that is part of the message you replied to.



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RE: [U2] UniObjects for .NET (UO.NET)

2004-08-03 Thread Anthony Corrente
Hi all,

I'm a little confused... does the following PDF not answer the UO.NET questions
posed so far? 

http://publibfi.boulder.ibm.com/epubs/pdf/25124070.pdf

You can get to this link by going to the U2 Library:
http://www-306.ibm.com/software/data/u2/pubs/

selecting Manual Online which takes you to 
http://www-306.ibm.com/software/data/u2/pubs/library/

and then selecting UniData 6.1 under Servers which take you to
http://www-306.ibm.com/software/data/u2/pubs/library/61unidata/

a quick serach (ctrl-F) for .Net will take you to:
IBM UniObjects for .NET Developers Guide, Version 6.1
Describes UniObjects for .NET, an interface to UniVerse and UniData databases
through Microsoft .NET.

Hope this helps,

Anthony.

 --- Rajesh Menon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
 I hope somebody from IBM-U2 will post some release dates for UO.NET here.
 Otherwise wait until September :-)
 
 -Rajesh
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tony Gravagno
 Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2004 3:03 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [U2] UniObjects for .NET (UO.NET)
 
 From the text on the website and the conference info below I don't see how
 UO.NET is similar or different compared to UO except that it's re-written to
 be managed code.  Does it support the full UO API?  Does it support ADO.NET?
 Connection pooling is interesting.  XML/DataSet support?  I hope that
 doesn't imply using U2 XML support to populate a dataset - of course the web
 page says the XML support is all new.  Is the SOAP interface through UO.NET?
 
 Do we need to wait a month for the conference before getting more info?  :)
 
 Thanks.
 Tony
 Nebula RD
 
 Ron White wrote:
 
  The new UniObjects for .NET provides high-speed
  native access that runs in a managed .NET environment
  for increased performance.
  http://www-306.ibm.com/software/data/u2/unidata/ud61-ann.html
 
  From: Rajesh Menon
  Not sure when this will be available. But there is session for
  Uniobjects.NET (UO.NET) in the upcoming U2 and DB2 Information
  Management Technical Conference, September 2004 (LAS VEGAS)
 
  While all U2 Windows APIs are 100% compatible with .NET and can be
  used to develop .NET applications that talk to U2 databases, IBM U2
  users now have a new API developed just for .NET - UniObjects For
  .NET(UO.NET). A 100% managed interface, UO.NET integrates seamlessly
  with .NETand new features such as connection pooling and XML/DataSet
  support will greatly improve performance for U2 .NET applications. A
  live demo and examples will be given to the audience to highlight
  the many important features of UO.NET. 
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Re: [U2] UniObjects for .NET (UO.NET)

2004-08-02 Thread u2ug
ok - but where is it ?


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From: Ron White [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 02, 2004 04:31 pm
Subject: Re: [U2] UniObjects for .NET (UO.NET)


 Look at this url in the Interoperability section.

 The new UniObjects for .NET provides high-speed
 native access that runs in a managed .NET environment
 for increased performance.

 http://www-306.ibm.com/software/data/u2/unidata/ud61-ann.html

 Ron White

 - Original Message - 
 From: George Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, August 02, 2004 10:51 AM
 Subject: RE: [U2] UniObjects for .NET (UO.NET)


  I went to the website for Unidata 6.1 but no mention of UO.NET.
  Anyone know where to go for info.
 
  Thanks
  grs
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Rajesh Menon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Friday, July 30, 2004 4:48 PM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: RE: [U2] UniObjects for .NET (UO.NET)
 
  Not sure when this will be available. But there is session for
  Uniobjects.NET (UO.NET) in the upcoming U2 and DB2 Information
Management
  Technical Conference, September 2004 (LAS VEGAS)
  -Rajesh
 
  Here is the session details:
 
  U2 High Performance Managed Interface for U2 with UniObjects for .NET
  Jianfeng Mao, IBM U2 Middleware team lead, IBM
  Audience: 1,3 Difficulty: INT
  While all U2 Windows APIs are 100% compatible with .NET and can be used
to
  develop .NET applications that talk to U2 databases, IBM U2 users now
have
 a
  new API developed just for .NET - UniObjects For .NET(UO.NET). A 100%
  managed interface, UO.NET integrates seamlessly with .NETand new
features
  such as connection pooling and XML/DataSet support will greatly improve
  performance for U2 .NET applications. A live demo and examples will be
 given
  to the audience to highlight the many important features of UO.NET.
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Simon Lewington
  Sent: Friday, July 30, 2004 1:27 AM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: [U2] UniObjects for .NET
 
  Anyone have any further info on this.  It's 30/07/04 today.
 
 
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   Yahoo,
   Does it have a .net data provider for using ADO .net ?
  
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   [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter
Gonzalez
   Sent: 16 July 2004 14:13
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: [U2] UniObjects for .NET
  
   UniObjects for .NET it's finally here!   It's also free!  Hopefully
   there
   will be some documentation.
  
  
   UniData v6.1 to Become Available on 7/30/04
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Unclassified RE: [U2] UniObjects for .NET (UO.NET)

2004-08-02 Thread HENDERSON MICHAEL MR
I expect that UO.NET will be on the Clients CD released with the UD
6.1 Product, so if you're a UD customer you would get it in the normal
way like you get your updates of the UD database software.

I'd guess there would be a new UV Clients CD released with this stuff on
it, too.

And these would presumably get onto the IBM web site whenever they
refresh the PE versions of the products.
Maybe IBM will give those out at the conference in Las Vegas next month?

My $0.02c


Mike


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Perhaps the clue is that this document says the general availability
date is 10th August, not 31st July ??

Ross Ferris
Stamina Software
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RE: [U2] UniObjects for .NET (UO.NET)

2004-07-30 Thread Rajesh Menon
Not sure when this will be available. But there is session for
Uniobjects.NET (UO.NET) in the upcoming U2 and DB2 Information Management
Technical Conference, September 2004 (LAS VEGAS)
-Rajesh

Here is the session details:

U2 High Performance Managed Interface for U2 with UniObjects for .NET
Jianfeng Mao, IBM U2 Middleware team lead, IBM
Audience: 1,3 Difficulty: INT
While all U2 Windows APIs are 100% compatible with .NET and can be used to
develop .NET applications that talk to U2 databases, IBM U2 users now have a
new API developed just for .NET - UniObjects For .NET(UO.NET). A 100%
managed interface, UO.NET integrates seamlessly with .NETand new features
such as connection pooling and XML/DataSet support will greatly improve
performance for U2 .NET applications. A live demo and examples will be given
to the audience to highlight the many important features of UO.NET.


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Simon Lewington
Sent: Friday, July 30, 2004 1:27 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [U2] UniObjects for .NET

Anyone have any further info on this.  It's 30/07/04 today.


Kishor Parmar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
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 Yahoo,
 Does it have a .net data provider for using ADO .net ?

 -Original Message-
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 Sent: 16 July 2004 14:13
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [U2] UniObjects for .NET

 UniObjects for .NET it's finally here!   It's also free!  Hopefully
 there
 will be some documentation.


 UniData v6.1 to Become Available on 7/30/04
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