Re: [U2] Start job on Universe boot under Windows
Sorry - yes udt on *nix -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of John Thompson Sent: 13 September 2011 21:35 To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] Start job on Universe boot under Windows Symeon might have been referring to the *nix world. Windows is probably a different animal. In the *nix world, you could add some additional functionality to the script that actually starts U2, which is an operating system shell script. I remember the coldstart stuff on our old Ultimate System. Its funny, you gain some, you lose some as new technology rolls along. Its all based on what the software engineers perceive you needing On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 4:31 PM, Bill Haskett wphask...@advantos.netwrote: Really? I could only find a startud.exe in our UDT bin directory on our Windows 2008 R2 machine, but no script. I seem to remember, in Pick, there was the user-coldstart item that always ran just after the system-coldstart, which ran just as the dbms came up. Consequently, all start functionality could be contained within the dbms and wouldn't ever depend on the platform. I could be wrong though...it's been known to happen more often than I care to remember. :-) Bill --**--** - Original Message - *From:* syme...@gmail.com *To:* 'U2 Users List' u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org *Date:* 9/13/2011 12:30 PM *Subject:* Re: [U2] Start job on Universe boot under Windows Not sure if it is the same with uv, but with ud - the startup script is 'startud', this is just a script and you can add commands to the bottom. -Original Message- From: u2-users-bounces@listserver.**u2ug.orgu2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-bounces@**listserver.u2ug.orgu2-users-bounces@listserver.u 2ug.org] On Behalf Of Bill Haskett Sent: 13 September 2011 17:45 To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] Start job on Universe boot under Windows I have no idea why the U2 products don't have this capability; then these things would run every time U2 starts! Instead, we have to futz around with the O/S and if we restart U2, without restarting the O/S, then these things have to be manually started. I've gotten used to the idea that if I want to restart U2 I have to restart the O/S. :-( I've submitted this to U2 on several occasions, but I think it's one of those D3 things that is anathema to U2 engineers. :-) Bill --**--** - Original Message - *From:* wjhon...@aol.com *To:* u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org *Date:* 9/13/2011 9:36 AM *Subject:* [U2] Start job on Universe boot under Windows Back in the olden times, we used to stuff things into WarmStart to make them start at boot time. Where do I stick them in Universe to make them start when Universe starts? I'd *prefer* a place that is Universe generic (will work the same under *nix or Windows). __**_ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/**mailman/listinfo/u2-usershttp://listserver.u2u g.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1392 / Virus Database: 1520/3894 - Release Date: 09/13/11 __**_ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/**mailman/listinfo/u2-usershttp://listserver.u2u g.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users __**_ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/**mailman/listinfo/u2-usershttp://listserver.u2u g.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users -- John Thompson ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1392 / Virus Database: 1520/3894 - Release Date: 09/13/11 ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Start job on Universe boot under Windows
In Windows you don't have the 'rc' style entry points - it's all started as services. You can use the Windows task scheduler to run a command on start-up, but it needs to know that the UniVerse service has started successfully before it kicks in. So there are two options: 1. Use the task scheduler but write your command as a piece of VBScript and use a UniObjects connection to connect locally to UniVerse and kick off your startup paragraph. That means the script can loop until it gets a valid connection, but it's rather inelegant and would need to have the connection credentials in the script itself - bad! 2. Execute path_to\uv.exe your_paragraph in a command wrapped into a service. If you Google around there are a few free apps out there that will wrap a regular windows command line into a service - or you can use .net to create a quick-and-simple service app to do the same thing. You can then create a dependency between your service and the Universe resource service, which means it won't try to start until Universe has been brought up. Brian ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Start job on Universe boot under Windows
I have no idea why the U2 products don't have this capability; then these things would run every time U2 starts! Instead, we have to futz around with the O/S and if we restart U2, without restarting the O/S, then these things have to be manually started. I've gotten used to the idea that if I want to restart U2 I have to restart the O/S. :-( I've submitted this to U2 on several occasions, but I think it's one of those D3 things that is anathema to U2 engineers. :-) Bill - Original Message - *From:* wjhon...@aol.com *To:* u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org *Date:* 9/13/2011 9:36 AM *Subject:* [U2] Start job on Universe boot under Windows Back in the olden times, we used to stuff things into WarmStart to make them start at boot time. Where do I stick them in Universe to make them start when Universe starts? I'd *prefer* a place that is Universe generic (will work the same under *nix or Windows). ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Start job on Universe boot under Windows
Not sure if it is the same with uv, but with ud - the startup script is 'startud', this is just a script and you can add commands to the bottom. -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Bill Haskett Sent: 13 September 2011 17:45 To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] Start job on Universe boot under Windows I have no idea why the U2 products don't have this capability; then these things would run every time U2 starts! Instead, we have to futz around with the O/S and if we restart U2, without restarting the O/S, then these things have to be manually started. I've gotten used to the idea that if I want to restart U2 I have to restart the O/S. :-( I've submitted this to U2 on several occasions, but I think it's one of those D3 things that is anathema to U2 engineers. :-) Bill - Original Message - *From:* wjhon...@aol.com *To:* u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org *Date:* 9/13/2011 9:36 AM *Subject:* [U2] Start job on Universe boot under Windows Back in the olden times, we used to stuff things into WarmStart to make them start at boot time. Where do I stick them in Universe to make them start when Universe starts? I'd *prefer* a place that is Universe generic (will work the same under *nix or Windows). ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1392 / Virus Database: 1520/3894 - Release Date: 09/13/11 ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Start job on Universe boot under Windows
Really? I could only find a startud.exe in our UDT bin directory on our Windows 2008 R2 machine, but no script. I seem to remember, in Pick, there was the user-coldstart item that always ran just after the system-coldstart, which ran just as the dbms came up. Consequently, all start functionality could be contained within the dbms and wouldn't ever depend on the platform. I could be wrong though...it's been known to happen more often than I care to remember. :-) Bill - Original Message - *From:* syme...@gmail.com *To:* 'U2 Users List' u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org *Date:* 9/13/2011 12:30 PM *Subject:* Re: [U2] Start job on Universe boot under Windows Not sure if it is the same with uv, but with ud - the startup script is 'startud', this is just a script and you can add commands to the bottom. -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Bill Haskett Sent: 13 September 2011 17:45 To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] Start job on Universe boot under Windows I have no idea why the U2 products don't have this capability; then these things would run every time U2 starts! Instead, we have to futz around with the O/S and if we restart U2, without restarting the O/S, then these things have to be manually started. I've gotten used to the idea that if I want to restart U2 I have to restart the O/S. :-( I've submitted this to U2 on several occasions, but I think it's one of those D3 things that is anathema to U2 engineers. :-) Bill - Original Message - *From:* wjhon...@aol.com *To:* u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org *Date:* 9/13/2011 9:36 AM *Subject:* [U2] Start job on Universe boot under Windows Back in the olden times, we used to stuff things into WarmStart to make them start at boot time. Where do I stick them in Universe to make them start when Universe starts? I'd *prefer* a place that is Universe generic (will work the same under *nix or Windows). ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1392 / Virus Database: 1520/3894 - Release Date: 09/13/11 ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Start job on Universe boot under Windows
Symeon might have been referring to the *nix world. Windows is probably a different animal. In the *nix world, you could add some additional functionality to the script that actually starts U2, which is an operating system shell script. I remember the coldstart stuff on our old Ultimate System. Its funny, you gain some, you lose some as new technology rolls along. Its all based on what the software engineers perceive you needing On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 4:31 PM, Bill Haskett wphask...@advantos.netwrote: Really? I could only find a startud.exe in our UDT bin directory on our Windows 2008 R2 machine, but no script. I seem to remember, in Pick, there was the user-coldstart item that always ran just after the system-coldstart, which ran just as the dbms came up. Consequently, all start functionality could be contained within the dbms and wouldn't ever depend on the platform. I could be wrong though...it's been known to happen more often than I care to remember. :-) Bill --**--** - Original Message - *From:* syme...@gmail.com *To:* 'U2 Users List' u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org *Date:* 9/13/2011 12:30 PM *Subject:* Re: [U2] Start job on Universe boot under Windows Not sure if it is the same with uv, but with ud - the startup script is 'startud', this is just a script and you can add commands to the bottom. -Original Message- From: u2-users-bounces@listserver.**u2ug.orgu2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-bounces@**listserver.u2ug.orgu2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Bill Haskett Sent: 13 September 2011 17:45 To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] Start job on Universe boot under Windows I have no idea why the U2 products don't have this capability; then these things would run every time U2 starts! Instead, we have to futz around with the O/S and if we restart U2, without restarting the O/S, then these things have to be manually started. I've gotten used to the idea that if I want to restart U2 I have to restart the O/S. :-( I've submitted this to U2 on several occasions, but I think it's one of those D3 things that is anathema to U2 engineers. :-) Bill --**--** - Original Message - *From:* wjhon...@aol.com *To:* u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org *Date:* 9/13/2011 9:36 AM *Subject:* [U2] Start job on Universe boot under Windows Back in the olden times, we used to stuff things into WarmStart to make them start at boot time. Where do I stick them in Universe to make them start when Universe starts? I'd *prefer* a place that is Universe generic (will work the same under *nix or Windows). __**_ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/**mailman/listinfo/u2-usershttp://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1392 / Virus Database: 1520/3894 - Release Date: 09/13/11 __**_ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/**mailman/listinfo/u2-usershttp://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users __**_ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/**mailman/listinfo/u2-usershttp://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users -- John Thompson ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
