Re: [Ubnt_users] Crash reports

2016-12-09 Thread Stuart Pierce 
Well there won't be any Ubiquiti software on it, it's totally different
firmware. That's why I was asking if the Elevate firmware did something
different to the wireless characteristics.

On Fri, December 9, 2016 8:18 pm, RickG wrote:
> I'm assuming that's with Airmax off?
>
>
> On Fri, Dec 9, 2016 at 2:56 PM, Josh Luthman
> 
> wrote:
>
>
>> 2.4 is Q1 2017
>>
>>
>> XM and XW both work
>>
>>
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 9, 2016 at 2:55 PM, Blair Davis  wrote:
>>
>>
>>> So, ePMP AP to UBNT CPE...
>>>
>>>
>>> Sorta like what Bitlomat was promising a year or two ago??
>>>
>>>
>>> in 2.4GHz?
>>>
>>> Support for XM and XW hardware?
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>>
>>> On 12/8/2016 10:52 PM, RickG wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> "If you're thinking Ubnt CPE + license to keep costs down I wouldn't
>>> waste the effort, it's the same price and every db counts."
>>>
>>> The problem is I cant afford the time or dollars for a forklift
>>> upgrade.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Dec 8, 2016 at 1:27 PM, Josh Luthman
>>> >>
 wrote:

>>>
 Nothing on the AP side.


 The Beam CPE isn't as good as a Force110 or Force200 CPE.  I can
 say for sure a couple of db in the antenna.  I've heard better
 filtering/eth protection/etc stuff, but that's kind of hard to
 measure from my point of view.

 If you're thinking Ubnt CPE + license to keep costs down I wouldn't
  waste the effort, it's the same price and every db counts.


 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
 Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373


 On Thu, Dec 8, 2016 at 1:01 PM, RickG  wrote:


> Yes on one tower. Didnt see any difference. The elevate! program
> is interesting. What do you lose by using a ePMP AP and UBNT CPE?
>
> On Thu, Dec 8, 2016 at 8:21 AM, Josh Luthman <
> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>
>> Have you not deployed any epmp?
>>
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340 <%28937%29%20552-2340>
>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <%28937%29%20552-2343>
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>>
>> On Dec 8, 2016 2:05 AM, "RickG"  wrote:
>>
>>
>>> So, does it fix the problem?
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Dec 7, 2016 at 8:59 AM, Josh Luthman <
>>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>>>
 $30 to fix the problem or $120 + $50 truck roll to fix the
 problem


 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340 <%28937%29%20552-2340>
 Direct: 937-552-2343 <%28937%29%20552-2343>
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373


 On Wed, Dec 7, 2016 at 8:57 AM, Mike Hammett <
 wispaubntus...@ics-il.net> wrote:

> That's a lot cheaper than a whole CPE plus a truck roll.
>
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
>
>
> Intelligent Computing Solutions 
> 
>  alb>
>  olutions> 
>
>
> Midwest Internet Exchange 
> 
>  e> 
>
>
> The Brothers WISP 
> 
> 
>  --
> *From: *"Stuart Pierce" 
> *To: *"Ubiquiti Users Group" 
> *Sent: *Wednesday, December 7, 2016 4:43:50 AM
> *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] Crash reports
>
>
>
> Course you have to pay a half to a third per cpe for this
> option.
>
> On Tue, December 6, 2016 11:26 pm, RickG wrote:
>
>> I'm just waiting to hear how well it's working out from
>> all you
> guinea
>> pigs :P
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 6, 2016 at 11:13 PM, Josh Luthman
>> 
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> Epmp elevate!  AP swap done in an hour then go hook
>>> up other
> customers.
>>>
>>>
>>> Sorry I felt obligated since you pointed me out ;)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>>

Re: [Ubnt_users] Crash reports

2016-12-09 Thread RickG 
With that said, I'm assuming that the elevate! firmware buys you motorola
proprietary protocol or am I missing something?

On Fri, Dec 9, 2016 at 8:26 PM, Josh Luthman 
wrote:

> Wi-Fi and epmp tdd
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Dec 9, 2016 8:18 PM, "RickG"  wrote:
>
>> I'm assuming that's with Airmax off?
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 9, 2016 at 2:56 PM, Josh Luthman > > wrote:
>>
>>> 2.4 is Q1 2017
>>>
>>> XM and XW both work
>>>
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>
>>> On Fri, Dec 9, 2016 at 2:55 PM, Blair Davis  wrote:
>>>
 So, ePMP AP to UBNT CPE...

 Sorta like what Bitlomat was promising a year or two ago??

 in 2.4GHz?

 Support for XM and XW hardware?

 --

 On 12/8/2016 10:52 PM, RickG wrote:

 "If you're thinking Ubnt CPE + license to keep costs down I wouldn't
 waste the effort, it's the same price and every db counts."

 The problem is I cant afford the time or dollars for a forklift upgrade.

 On Thu, Dec 8, 2016 at 1:27 PM, Josh Luthman <
 j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:

> Nothing on the AP side.
>
> The Beam CPE isn't as good as a Force110 or Force200 CPE.  I can say
> for sure a couple of db in the antenna.  I've heard better filtering/eth
> protection/etc stuff, but that's kind of hard to measure from my point of
> view.
>
> If you're thinking Ubnt CPE + license to keep costs down I wouldn't
> waste the effort, it's the same price and every db counts.
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Thu, Dec 8, 2016 at 1:01 PM, RickG  wrote:
>
>> Yes on one tower. Didnt see any difference. The elevate! program is
>> interesting. What do you lose by using a ePMP AP and UBNT CPE?
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 8, 2016 at 8:21 AM, Josh Luthman <
>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Have you not deployed any epmp?
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340 <%28937%29%20552-2340>
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <%28937%29%20552-2343>
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>
>>> On Dec 8, 2016 2:05 AM, "RickG"  wrote:
>>>
 So, does it fix the problem?

 On Wed, Dec 7, 2016 at 8:59 AM, Josh Luthman <
 j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:

> $30 to fix the problem or $120 + $50 truck roll to fix the problem
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340 <%28937%29%20552-2340>
> Direct: 937-552-2343 <%28937%29%20552-2343>
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Wed, Dec 7, 2016 at 8:57 AM, Mike Hammett <
> wispaubntus...@ics-il.net> wrote:
>
>> That's a lot cheaper than a whole CPE plus a truck roll.
>>
>>
>>
>> -
>> Mike Hammett
>>
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>
>> Midwest Internet Exchange 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>
>> The Brothers WISP 
>> 
>> 
>> --
>> *From: *"Stuart Pierce" 
>> *To: *"Ubiquiti Users Group" 
>> *Sent: *Wednesday, December 7, 2016 4:43:50 AM
>> *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] Crash reports
>>
>>
>> Course you have to pay a half to a third per cpe for this option.
>>
>> On Tue, December 6, 2016 11:26 pm, RickG wrote:
>> > I'm just waiting to hear how well it's working out from all you
>> guinea
>> > pigs :P
>> >
>> >
>> > On Tue, Dec 6, 2016 at 11:13 PM, Josh Luthman
>> > 
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >> Epmp elevate!  AP swap done in an hour then go hook up other
>> customers.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>

Re: [Ubnt_users] Crash reports

2016-12-09 Thread RickG 
I'm assuming that's with Airmax off?

On Fri, Dec 9, 2016 at 2:56 PM, Josh Luthman 
wrote:

> 2.4 is Q1 2017
>
> XM and XW both work
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Fri, Dec 9, 2016 at 2:55 PM, Blair Davis  wrote:
>
>> So, ePMP AP to UBNT CPE...
>>
>> Sorta like what Bitlomat was promising a year or two ago??
>>
>> in 2.4GHz?
>>
>> Support for XM and XW hardware?
>>
>> --
>>
>> On 12/8/2016 10:52 PM, RickG wrote:
>>
>> "If you're thinking Ubnt CPE + license to keep costs down I wouldn't
>> waste the effort, it's the same price and every db counts."
>>
>> The problem is I cant afford the time or dollars for a forklift upgrade.
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 8, 2016 at 1:27 PM, Josh Luthman > > wrote:
>>
>>> Nothing on the AP side.
>>>
>>> The Beam CPE isn't as good as a Force110 or Force200 CPE.  I can say for
>>> sure a couple of db in the antenna.  I've heard better filtering/eth
>>> protection/etc stuff, but that's kind of hard to measure from my point of
>>> view.
>>>
>>> If you're thinking Ubnt CPE + license to keep costs down I wouldn't
>>> waste the effort, it's the same price and every db counts.
>>>
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>
>>> On Thu, Dec 8, 2016 at 1:01 PM, RickG  wrote:
>>>
 Yes on one tower. Didnt see any difference. The elevate! program is
 interesting. What do you lose by using a ePMP AP and UBNT CPE?

 On Thu, Dec 8, 2016 at 8:21 AM, Josh Luthman <
 j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:

> Have you not deployed any epmp?
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340 <%28937%29%20552-2340>
> Direct: 937-552-2343 <%28937%29%20552-2343>
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Dec 8, 2016 2:05 AM, "RickG"  wrote:
>
>> So, does it fix the problem?
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 7, 2016 at 8:59 AM, Josh Luthman <
>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>>
>>> $30 to fix the problem or $120 + $50 truck roll to fix the problem
>>>
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340 <%28937%29%20552-2340>
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <%28937%29%20552-2343>
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>
>>> On Wed, Dec 7, 2016 at 8:57 AM, Mike Hammett <
>>> wispaubntus...@ics-il.net> wrote:
>>>
 That's a lot cheaper than a whole CPE plus a truck roll.



 -
 Mike Hammett

 Intelligent Computing Solutions 
 
 
 
 

 Midwest Internet Exchange 
 
 
 

 The Brothers WISP 
 
 
 --
 *From: *"Stuart Pierce" 
 *To: *"Ubiquiti Users Group" 
 *Sent: *Wednesday, December 7, 2016 4:43:50 AM
 *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] Crash reports


 Course you have to pay a half to a third per cpe for this option.

 On Tue, December 6, 2016 11:26 pm, RickG wrote:
 > I'm just waiting to hear how well it's working out from all you
 guinea
 > pigs :P
 >
 >
 > On Tue, Dec 6, 2016 at 11:13 PM, Josh Luthman
 > 
 > wrote:
 >
 >
 >> Epmp elevate!  AP swap done in an hour then go hook up other
 customers.
 >>
 >>
 >> Sorry I felt obligated since you pointed me out ;)
 >>
 >>
 >> Josh Luthman
 >> Office: 937-552-2340 <%28937%29%20552-2340>
 >> Direct: 937-552-2343 <%28937%29%20552-2343>
 >> 1100 Wayne St
 >> Suite 1337
 >> Troy, OH 45373
 >>
 >>
 >> On Dec 6, 2016 11:10 PM, "RickG"  wrote:
 >>
 >>
 >> +1!
 >>
 >>
 >> On Tue, Dec 6, 2016 at 4:30 PM, Steve Barnes 
 wrote:
 >>
 >>
 >>> Since all our customer facing stuff was running 10MHz channels
 and
 >>> Airmax
 >>> we had not applied Wireless Security.

Re: [Ubnt_users] Crash reports

2016-12-09 Thread Josh Luthman 
2.4 is Q1 2017

XM and XW both work


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Fri, Dec 9, 2016 at 2:55 PM, Blair Davis  wrote:

> So, ePMP AP to UBNT CPE...
>
> Sorta like what Bitlomat was promising a year or two ago??
>
> in 2.4GHz?
>
> Support for XM and XW hardware?
>
> --
>
> On 12/8/2016 10:52 PM, RickG wrote:
>
> "If you're thinking Ubnt CPE + license to keep costs down I wouldn't waste
> the effort, it's the same price and every db counts."
>
> The problem is I cant afford the time or dollars for a forklift upgrade.
>
> On Thu, Dec 8, 2016 at 1:27 PM, Josh Luthman 
> wrote:
>
>> Nothing on the AP side.
>>
>> The Beam CPE isn't as good as a Force110 or Force200 CPE.  I can say for
>> sure a couple of db in the antenna.  I've heard better filtering/eth
>> protection/etc stuff, but that's kind of hard to measure from my point of
>> view.
>>
>> If you're thinking Ubnt CPE + license to keep costs down I wouldn't waste
>> the effort, it's the same price and every db counts.
>>
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 8, 2016 at 1:01 PM, RickG  wrote:
>>
>>> Yes on one tower. Didnt see any difference. The elevate! program is
>>> interesting. What do you lose by using a ePMP AP and UBNT CPE?
>>>
>>> On Thu, Dec 8, 2016 at 8:21 AM, Josh Luthman <
>>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>>>
 Have you not deployed any epmp?

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340 <%28937%29%20552-2340>
 Direct: 937-552-2343 <%28937%29%20552-2343>
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 On Dec 8, 2016 2:05 AM, "RickG"  wrote:

> So, does it fix the problem?
>
> On Wed, Dec 7, 2016 at 8:59 AM, Josh Luthman <
> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>
>> $30 to fix the problem or $120 + $50 truck roll to fix the problem
>>
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340 <%28937%29%20552-2340>
>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <%28937%29%20552-2343>
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 7, 2016 at 8:57 AM, Mike Hammett <
>> wispaubntus...@ics-il.net> wrote:
>>
>>> That's a lot cheaper than a whole CPE plus a truck roll.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -
>>> Mike Hammett
>>>
>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>
>>> Midwest Internet Exchange 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>
>>> The Brothers WISP 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --
>>> *From: *"Stuart Pierce" 
>>> *To: *"Ubiquiti Users Group" 
>>> *Sent: *Wednesday, December 7, 2016 4:43:50 AM
>>> *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] Crash reports
>>>
>>>
>>> Course you have to pay a half to a third per cpe for this option.
>>>
>>> On Tue, December 6, 2016 11:26 pm, RickG wrote:
>>> > I'm just waiting to hear how well it's working out from all you
>>> guinea
>>> > pigs :P
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Tue, Dec 6, 2016 at 11:13 PM, Josh Luthman
>>> > 
>>> > wrote:
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >> Epmp elevate!  AP swap done in an hour then go hook up other
>>> customers.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> Sorry I felt obligated since you pointed me out ;)
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> Josh Luthman
>>> >> Office: 937-552-2340 <%28937%29%20552-2340>
>>> >> Direct: 937-552-2343 <%28937%29%20552-2343>
>>> >> 1100 Wayne St
>>> >> Suite 1337
>>> >> Troy, OH 45373
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> On Dec 6, 2016 11:10 PM, "RickG"  wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> +1!
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> On Tue, Dec 6, 2016 at 4:30 PM, Steve Barnes 
>>> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>> Since all our customer facing stuff was running 10MHz channels
>>> and
>>> >>> Airmax
>>> >>> we had not applied Wireless Security.  We decided to start adding
>>> >>> security to all clients.  (backhauls already had security)
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Since applying WPA2-AES to all our Rocket M5 APs and CPEs (5.6.9
>>> ALL)
>>> >>> we have been getting lots of Crash reports on the AP side an
>>> some

Re: [Ubnt_users] Crash reports

2016-12-09 Thread Blair Davis 

So, ePMP AP to UBNT CPE...

Sorta like what Bitlomat was promising a year or two ago??

in 2.4GHz?

Support for XM and XW hardware?

--


On 12/8/2016 10:52 PM, RickG wrote:
"If you're thinking Ubnt CPE + license to keep costs down I wouldn't 
waste the effort, it's the same price and every db counts."


The problem is I cant afford the time or dollars for a forklift upgrade.

On Thu, Dec 8, 2016 at 1:27 PM, Josh Luthman 
> wrote:


Nothing on the AP side.

The Beam CPE isn't as good as a Force110 or Force200 CPE.  I can
say for sure a couple of db in the antenna.  I've heard better
filtering/eth protection/etc stuff, but that's kind of hard to
measure from my point of view.

If you're thinking Ubnt CPE + license to keep costs down I
wouldn't waste the effort, it's the same price and every db counts.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Thu, Dec 8, 2016 at 1:01 PM, RickG > wrote:

Yes on one tower. Didnt see any difference. The elevate!
program is interesting. What do you lose by using a ePMP AP
and UBNT CPE?

On Thu, Dec 8, 2016 at 8:21 AM, Josh Luthman
> wrote:

Have you not deployed any epmp?

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Dec 8, 2016 2:05 AM, "RickG" > wrote:

So, does it fix the problem?

On Wed, Dec 7, 2016 at 8:59 AM, Josh Luthman
> wrote:

$30 to fix the problem or $120 + $50 truck roll to
fix the problem


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Wed, Dec 7, 2016 at 8:57 AM, Mike Hammett
> wrote:

That's a lot cheaper than a whole CPE plus a
truck roll.



-
Mike Hammett

Intelligent Computing Solutions




Midwest Internet Exchange




The Brothers WISP





*From: *"Stuart Pierce" >
*To: *"Ubiquiti Users Group"
>
*Sent: *Wednesday, December 7, 2016 4:43:50 AM
*Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] Crash reports


Course you have to pay a half to a third per
cpe for this option.

On Tue, December 6, 2016 11:26 pm, RickG wrote:
> I'm just waiting to hear how well it's
working out from all you guinea
> pigs :P
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 6, 2016 at 11:13 PM, Josh Luthman
> >
> wrote:
>
>
>> Epmp elevate!  AP swap done in an hour then
go hook up other customers.
>>
>>
>> Sorry I felt obligated since you pointed me

Re: [Ubnt_users] Crash reports

2016-12-09 Thread Stuart Pierce 
The latest betas of each branch have been working pretty good for me, the
RC's not so good, to many drops.

On Fri, December 9, 2016 12:08 pm, CBB - Jay Fuller wrote:
>

>
> We are still on 5.6.3 because of these reports
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: Justin Wilson
> To: Ubiquiti Users Group
> Sent: Tuesday, December 6, 2016 3:38 PM
> Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Crash reports
>
>
>
> Some folks have reported this with 5.6.9. Some folks are going back to
> 5.6.5.
>
>
> Justin Wilson
> j...@mtin.net
>
> ---
> http://www.mtin.net Owner/CEO
> xISP Solutions- Consulting – Data Centers - Bandwidth
>
> http://www.midwest-ix.com  COO/Chairman
> Internet Exchange - Peering - Distributed Fabric
>
>
>> On Dec 6, 2016, at 4:30 PM, Steve Barnes  wrote:
>>
>>
>> Since all our customer facing stuff was running 10MHz channels and
>> Airmax we had not applied Wireless Security.  We decided to start
>> adding security to all clients.  (backhauls already had security)
>>
>> Since applying WPA2-AES to all our Rocket M5 APs and CPEs (5.6.9 ALL)
>> we have been getting lots of Crash reports on the AP side an some one
>> the CPE.  Also have had several AP’s just stop passing traffic till
>> they were rebooted.  Funky communication with AC2 and all around
>> goofiness of our network that we never had without security.
>>
>> Giving lots of consideration to reversing this decision.  Any thoughts
>> or ideas?
>>
>> P.S.  ePMP is not an answer Josh.  ☺
>>
>>
>> Steve Barnes
>> Wireless Operations Manager
>> New Lisbon Broadband
>> NLBC.COM
>> PCSWIN.COM
>> 765-584-2288 ext:1101
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Re: [Ubnt_users] Crash reports

2016-12-09 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller 

I think with the 3.2 upgraded EPMP could be an answer lol
That being said, we run maybe 40 EPMP radios and probably 300 ubnt airmax 
radios in 2.4 ;)

  - Original Message - 
  From: Steve Barnes 
  To: 'Ubiquiti Users Group (ubnt_users@wispa.org)' 
  Sent: Tuesday, December 6, 2016 3:30 PM
  Subject: [Ubnt_users] Crash reports


  Since all our customer facing stuff was running 10MHz channels and Airmax we 
had not applied Wireless Security.  We decided to start adding security to all 
clients.  (backhauls already had security)

  Since applying WPA2-AES to all our Rocket M5 APs and CPEs (5.6.9 ALL) we have 
been getting lots of Crash reports on the AP side an some one the CPE.  Also 
have had several AP’s just stop passing traffic till they were rebooted.  Funky 
communication with AC2 and all around goofiness of our network that we never 
had without security.

  Giving lots of consideration to reversing this decision.  Any thoughts or 
ideas?

  P.S.  ePMP is not an answer Josh.  ☺

  Steve Barnes
  Wireless Operations Manager
  New Lisbon Broadband
  NLBC.COM
  PCSWIN.COM
  765-584-2288 ext:1101



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Re: [Ubnt_users] Crash reports

2016-12-09 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller 


We are still on 5.6.3 because of these reports

  - Original Message - 
  From: Justin Wilson 
  To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
  Sent: Tuesday, December 6, 2016 3:38 PM
  Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Crash reports


  Some folks have reported this with 5.6.9. Some folks are going back to 5.6.5.

  Justin Wilson
  j...@mtin.net

  ---
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  > On Dec 6, 2016, at 4:30 PM, Steve Barnes  wrote:
  > 
  > Since all our customer facing stuff was running 10MHz channels and Airmax 
we had not applied Wireless Security.  We decided to start adding security to 
all clients.  (backhauls already had security)
  > 
  > Since applying WPA2-AES to all our Rocket M5 APs and CPEs (5.6.9 ALL) we 
have been getting lots of Crash reports on the AP side an some one the CPE.  
Also have had several AP’s just stop passing traffic till they were rebooted.  
Funky communication with AC2 and all around goofiness of our network that we 
never had without security.
  > 
  > Giving lots of consideration to reversing this decision.  Any thoughts or 
ideas?
  > 
  > P.S.  ePMP is not an answer Josh.  ☺
  > 
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  > New Lisbon Broadband
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Re: [Ubnt_users] Radomes for AF‑5G34‑S45

2016-12-09 Thread Omni Flux 
The 2ft radome is; the 3ft radome is not as the RD5G-34 is actually
972mm vs everyone elses 927mm.

-- 
Omni Flux

On 2016-12-09 06:28, Faisal Imtiaz wrote:
> The radomes for the 2ft and 3ft dishes are 'generic', i.e. the same radome 
> will fit dishes of that size from other mfg as we..  look for 3ft dish radome 
> from your fav supplier.
> 
> The suckers are pretty large :)
> 
> Faisal Imtiaz
> Snappy Internet & Telecom
> 7266 SW 48 Street
> Miami, FL 33155
> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
> 
> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net
> 
> - Original Message -
>> From: "Sam Morris" 
>> To: "Ubiquiti Users Group" 
>> Sent: Thursday, December 8, 2016 1:20:49 PM
>> Subject: [Ubnt_users] Radomes for AF‑5G34‑S45
> 
>> Do these exist? I've been trying to find a part number so I can use the
>> stock locator, but can't find a part number... Checked on Streakwave,
>> DoubleRadius, and UBNT sites to no avail. :(
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Sam
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Re: [Ubnt_users] Radomes for AF‑5G34‑S45

2016-12-09 Thread Faisal Imtiaz 
The radomes for the 2ft and 3ft dishes are 'generic', i.e. the same radome will 
fit dishes of that size from other mfg as we..  look for 3ft dish radome from 
your fav supplier.

The suckers are pretty large :)

Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet & Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, FL 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net

- Original Message -
> From: "Sam Morris" 
> To: "Ubiquiti Users Group" 
> Sent: Thursday, December 8, 2016 1:20:49 PM
> Subject: [Ubnt_users] Radomes for AF‑5G34‑S45

> Do these exist? I've been trying to find a part number so I can use the
> stock locator, but can't find a part number... Checked on Streakwave,
> DoubleRadius, and UBNT sites to no avail. :(
> 
> Thanks,
> Sam
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Re: [Ubnt_users] Crash reports

2016-12-09 Thread Josh Luthman 
Eh it's all tagged as ml labels, it's all one big nest of noise.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Dec 9, 2016 7:45 AM, "Stuart Pierce"  wrote:

> Way to pay attention there Josh, lol
>
> On Fri, December 9, 2016 7:32 am, Josh Luthman wrote:
> > It changes the Ubnt radio to do epmp TDD wireless.  The #1 feature of
> > epmp.
> >
> > It's also probably a bit mean to discuss this on the Ubnt list, just
> > noticed the tag...
> >
> > Josh Luthman
> > Office: 937-552-2340
> > Direct: 937-552-2343
> > 1100 Wayne St
> > Suite 1337
> > Troy, OH 45373
> >
> >
> > On Dec 9, 2016 5:39 AM, "Stuart Pierce"  wrote:
> >
> >
> >> Does Elevate change the wireless aspect of the UBNT device so that it
> >> makes it perform better?
> >>
> >> Besides the sync of the AP of which you have to have two of to enter
> >> into any performance question, if Elevate doesn't help the wireless
> >> performance of the UBNT device, then why put it on?
> >>
> >> I thought you could already put the Cambium in wifi mode and connect
> >> Ubiquiti devices, or maybe it's the 'Airmax' function or as I like to
> >> call it the 'moderator' function at a debate.
> >>
> >>
> >> On Thu, December 8, 2016 10:52 pm, RickG wrote:
> >>
> >>> "If you're thinking Ubnt CPE + license to keep costs down I wouldn't
> >>> waste the effort, it's the same price and every db counts."
> >>>
> >>> The problem is I cant afford the time or dollars for a forklift
> >>> upgrade.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, Dec 8, 2016 at 1:27 PM, Josh Luthman
> >>> 
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
>  Nothing on the AP side.
> 
> 
> 
>  The Beam CPE isn't as good as a Force110 or Force200 CPE.  I can
>  say for sure a couple of db in the antenna.  I've heard better
>  filtering/eth protection/etc stuff, but that's kind of hard to
>  measure from my point of view.
> 
>  If you're thinking Ubnt CPE + license to keep costs down I wouldn't
>   waste the effort, it's the same price and every db counts.
> 
> 
>  Josh Luthman
>  Office: 937-552-2340
>  Direct: 937-552-2343
>  1100 Wayne St
>  Suite 1337
>  Troy, OH 45373
> 
> 
> 
>  On Thu, Dec 8, 2016 at 1:01 PM, RickG  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> > Yes on one tower. Didnt see any difference. The elevate! program
> > is interesting. What do you lose by using a ePMP AP and UBNT CPE?
> >
> > On Thu, Dec 8, 2016 at 8:21 AM, Josh Luthman
> >  >
> >
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >
> >> Have you not deployed any epmp?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Josh Luthman
> >> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
> >> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
> >> 1100 Wayne St
> >> Suite 1337
> >> Troy, OH 45373
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Dec 8, 2016 2:05 AM, "RickG"  wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> So, does it fix the problem?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Wed, Dec 7, 2016 at 8:59 AM, Josh Luthman <
> >>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
> >>>
>  $30 to fix the problem or $120 + $50 truck roll to fix the
>  problem
> 
> 
>  Josh Luthman
>  Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
>  Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
>  1100 Wayne St
>  Suite 1337
>  Troy, OH 45373
> 
> 
> 
>  On Wed, Dec 7, 2016 at 8:57 AM, Mike Hammett <
>  wispaubntus...@ics-il.net> wrote:
> 
> > That's a lot cheaper than a whole CPE plus a truck roll.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -
> > Mike Hammett
> >
> >
> >
> > Intelligent Computing Solutions 
> > 
> >  > alb>
> >
> >  > olut ions> 
> >
> >
> > Midwest Internet Exchange 
> > 
> >  > e> 
> >
> >
> >
> > The Brothers WISP 
> > 
> > 
> >  --
> > *From: *"Stuart Pierce" 
> > *To: *"Ubiquiti Users Group" 
> > *Sent: *Wednesday, December 7, 2016 4:43:50 AM
> > *Subject: *Re:

Re: [Ubnt_users] Crash reports

2016-12-09 Thread Mike Hammett 
It turns a UBNT CPE into an ePMP CPE. 




- 
Mike Hammett 

Intelligent Computing Solutions 


Midwest Internet Exchange 


The Brothers WISP 

- Original Message -

From: "Stuart Pierce"  
To: "Ubiquiti Users Group"  
Sent: Friday, December 9, 2016 4:39:15 AM 
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Crash reports 

Does Elevate change the wireless aspect of the UBNT device so that it 
makes it perform better? 

Besides the sync of the AP of which you have to have two of to enter into 
any performance question, if Elevate doesn't help the wireless performance 
of the UBNT device, then why put it on? 

I thought you could already put the Cambium in wifi mode and connect 
Ubiquiti devices, or maybe it's the 'Airmax' function or as I like to call 
it the 'moderator' function at a debate. 


On Thu, December 8, 2016 10:52 pm, RickG wrote: 
> "If you're thinking Ubnt CPE + license to keep costs down I wouldn't 
> waste the effort, it's the same price and every db counts." 
> 
> The problem is I cant afford the time or dollars for a forklift upgrade. 
> 
> 
> On Thu, Dec 8, 2016 at 1:27 PM, Josh Luthman 
>  
> wrote: 
> 
> 
>> Nothing on the AP side. 
>> 
>> 
>> The Beam CPE isn't as good as a Force110 or Force200 CPE. I can say 
>> for sure a couple of db in the antenna. I've heard better filtering/eth 
>> protection/etc stuff, but that's kind of hard to measure from my point 
>> of view. 
>> 
>> If you're thinking Ubnt CPE + license to keep costs down I wouldn't 
>> waste the effort, it's the same price and every db counts. 
>> 
>> 
>> Josh Luthman 
>> Office: 937-552-2340 
>> Direct: 937-552-2343 
>> 1100 Wayne St 
>> Suite 1337 
>> Troy, OH 45373 
>> 
>> 
>> On Thu, Dec 8, 2016 at 1:01 PM, RickG  wrote: 
>> 
>> 
>>> Yes on one tower. Didnt see any difference. The elevate! program is 
>>> interesting. What do you lose by using a ePMP AP and UBNT CPE? 
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Dec 8, 2016 at 8:21 AM, Josh Luthman 
>>> >> 
 wrote: 
 
>>> 
 Have you not deployed any epmp? 
 
 
 Josh Luthman 
 Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340> 
 Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343> 
 1100 Wayne St 
 Suite 1337 
 Troy, OH 45373 
 
 
 On Dec 8, 2016 2:05 AM, "RickG"  wrote: 
 
 
> So, does it fix the problem? 
> 
> 
> On Wed, Dec 7, 2016 at 8:59 AM, Josh Luthman < 
> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote: 
> 
>> $30 to fix the problem or $120 + $50 truck roll to fix the 
>> problem 
>> 
>> 
>> Josh Luthman 
>> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340> 
>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343> 
>> 1100 Wayne St 
>> Suite 1337 
>> Troy, OH 45373 
>> 
>> 
>> On Wed, Dec 7, 2016 at 8:57 AM, Mike Hammett < 
>> wispaubntus...@ics-il.net> wrote: 
>> 
>>> That's a lot cheaper than a whole CPE plus a truck roll. 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> - 
>>> Mike Hammett 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions  
>>>  
>>>  
>>> 
>>> >> ions>  
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Midwest Internet Exchange  
>>>  
>>>  
>>>  
>>> 
>>> 
>>> The Brothers WISP  
>>>  
>>>  
>>> -- 
>>> *From: *"Stuart Pierce"  
>>> *To: *"Ubiquiti Users Group"  
>>> *Sent: *Wednesday, December 7, 2016 4:43:50 AM 
>>> *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] Crash reports 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Course you have to pay a half to a third per cpe for this 
>>> option. 
>>> 
>>> On Tue, December 6, 2016 11:26 pm, RickG wrote: 
>>> 
 I'm just waiting to hear how well it's working out from all 
 you 
>>> guinea 
 pigs :P 
 
 
 On Tue, Dec 6, 2016 at 11:13 PM, Josh Luthman 
  
 wrote: 
 
 
 
> Epmp elevate! AP swap done in an hour then go hook up 
> other 
>>> customers. 
> 
> 
> Sorry I felt obligated since you pointed me out ;) 
> 
> 
> 
> Josh Luthman 
> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340> 
> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343> 
> 1100 Wayne St 
> Suite 1337 
> Troy, OH 45373

Re: [Ubnt_users] Crash reports

2016-12-09 Thread Stuart Pierce 
Does Elevate change the wireless aspect of the UBNT device so that it
makes it perform better?

Besides the sync of the AP of which you have to have two of to enter into
any performance question, if Elevate doesn't help the wireless performance
of the UBNT device, then why put it on?

I thought you could already put the Cambium in wifi mode and connect
Ubiquiti devices, or maybe it's the 'Airmax' function or as I like to call
it the 'moderator' function at a debate.


On Thu, December 8, 2016 10:52 pm, RickG wrote:
> "If you're thinking Ubnt CPE + license to keep costs down I wouldn't
> waste the effort, it's the same price and every db counts."
>
> The problem is I cant afford the time or dollars for a forklift upgrade.
>
>
> On Thu, Dec 8, 2016 at 1:27 PM, Josh Luthman
> 
> wrote:
>
>
>> Nothing on the AP side.
>>
>>
>> The Beam CPE isn't as good as a Force110 or Force200 CPE.  I can say
>> for sure a couple of db in the antenna.  I've heard better filtering/eth
>>  protection/etc stuff, but that's kind of hard to measure from my point
>> of view.
>>
>> If you're thinking Ubnt CPE + license to keep costs down I wouldn't
>> waste the effort, it's the same price and every db counts.
>>
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 8, 2016 at 1:01 PM, RickG  wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Yes on one tower. Didnt see any difference. The elevate! program is
>>> interesting. What do you lose by using a ePMP AP and UBNT CPE?
>>>
>>> On Thu, Dec 8, 2016 at 8:21 AM, Josh Luthman
>>> >>
 wrote:

>>>
 Have you not deployed any epmp?


 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
 Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373


 On Dec 8, 2016 2:05 AM, "RickG"  wrote:


> So, does it fix the problem?
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 7, 2016 at 8:59 AM, Josh Luthman <
> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>
>> $30 to fix the problem or $120 + $50 truck roll to fix the
>> problem
>>
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 7, 2016 at 8:57 AM, Mike Hammett <
>> wispaubntus...@ics-il.net> wrote:
>>
>>> That's a lot cheaper than a whole CPE plus a truck roll.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -
>>> Mike Hammett
>>>
>>>
>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>
>>> >> ions> 
>>>
>>>
>>> Midwest Internet Exchange 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>
>>>
>>> The Brothers WISP 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --
>>> *From: *"Stuart Pierce" 
>>> *To: *"Ubiquiti Users Group" 
>>> *Sent: *Wednesday, December 7, 2016 4:43:50 AM
>>> *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] Crash reports
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Course you have to pay a half to a third per cpe for this
>>> option.
>>>
>>> On Tue, December 6, 2016 11:26 pm, RickG wrote:
>>>
 I'm just waiting to hear how well it's working out from all
 you
>>> guinea
 pigs :P


 On Tue, Dec 6, 2016 at 11:13 PM, Josh Luthman
 
 wrote:



> Epmp elevate!  AP swap done in an hour then go hook up
> other
>>> customers.
>
>
> Sorry I felt obligated since you pointed me out ;)
>
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
>
>
> On Dec 6, 2016 11:10 PM, "RickG" 
> wrote:
>
>
>
> +1!
>
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 6, 2016 at 4:30 PM, Steve Barnes
> 
>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>
>
>> Since all our customer facing stuff was running 10MHz
>> channels and Airmax
>> we had not applied Wireless Security.  We decided to
>> start