Eh it's all tagged as ml labels, it's all one big nest of noise.

Josh Luthman
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On Dec 9, 2016 7:45 AM, "Stuart Pierce" <[email protected]> wrote:

> Way to pay attention there Josh, lol
>
> On Fri, December 9, 2016 7:32 am, Josh Luthman wrote:
> > It changes the Ubnt radio to do epmp TDD wireless.  The #1 feature of
> > epmp.
> >
> > It's also probably a bit mean to discuss this on the Ubnt list, just
> > noticed the tag...
> >
> > Josh Luthman
> > Office: 937-552-2340
> > Direct: 937-552-2343
> > 1100 Wayne St
> > Suite 1337
> > Troy, OH 45373
> >
> >
> > On Dec 9, 2016 5:39 AM, "Stuart Pierce" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >
> >> Does Elevate change the wireless aspect of the UBNT device so that it
> >> makes it perform better?
> >>
> >> Besides the sync of the AP of which you have to have two of to enter
> >> into any performance question, if Elevate doesn't help the wireless
> >> performance of the UBNT device, then why put it on?
> >>
> >> I thought you could already put the Cambium in wifi mode and connect
> >> Ubiquiti devices, or maybe it's the 'Airmax' function or as I like to
> >> call it the 'moderator' function at a debate.
> >>
> >>
> >> On Thu, December 8, 2016 10:52 pm, RickG wrote:
> >>
> >>> "If you're thinking Ubnt CPE + license to keep costs down I wouldn't
> >>> waste the effort, it's the same price and every db counts."
> >>>
> >>> The problem is I cant afford the time or dollars for a forklift
> >>> upgrade.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, Dec 8, 2016 at 1:27 PM, Josh Luthman
> >>> <[email protected]>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Nothing on the AP side.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> The Beam CPE isn't as good as a Force110 or Force200 CPE.  I can
> >>>> say for sure a couple of db in the antenna.  I've heard better
> >>>> filtering/eth protection/etc stuff, but that's kind of hard to
> >>>> measure from my point of view.
> >>>>
> >>>> If you're thinking Ubnt CPE + license to keep costs down I wouldn't
> >>>>  waste the effort, it's the same price and every db counts.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Josh Luthman
> >>>> Office: 937-552-2340
> >>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
> >>>> 1100 Wayne St
> >>>> Suite 1337
> >>>> Troy, OH 45373
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Thu, Dec 8, 2016 at 1:01 PM, RickG <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> Yes on one tower. Didnt see any difference. The elevate! program
> >>>>> is interesting. What do you lose by using a ePMP AP and UBNT CPE?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Thu, Dec 8, 2016 at 8:21 AM, Josh Luthman
> >>>>> <[email protected]
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Have you not deployed any epmp?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Josh Luthman
> >>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
> >>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
> >>>>>> 1100 Wayne St
> >>>>>> Suite 1337
> >>>>>> Troy, OH 45373
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Dec 8, 2016 2:05 AM, "RickG" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> So, does it fix the problem?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 7, 2016 at 8:59 AM, Josh Luthman <
> >>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> $30 to fix the problem or $120 + $50 truck roll to fix the
> >>>>>>>> problem
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Josh Luthman
> >>>>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
> >>>>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
> >>>>>>>> 1100 Wayne St
> >>>>>>>> Suite 1337
> >>>>>>>> Troy, OH 45373
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 7, 2016 at 8:57 AM, Mike Hammett <
> >>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> That's a lot cheaper than a whole CPE plus a truck roll.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> -----
> >>>>>>>>> Mike Hammett
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
> >>>>>>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
> >>>>>>>>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeK
> >>>>>>>>> alb>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-s
> >>>>>>>>> olut ions> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
> >>>>>>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>
> >>>>>>>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchang
> >>>>>>>>> e> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
> >>>>>>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
> >>>>>>>>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
> >>>>>>>>>  ------------------------------
> >>>>>>>>> *From: *"Stuart Pierce" <[email protected]>
> >>>>>>>>> *To: *"Ubiquiti Users Group" <[email protected]>
> >>>>>>>>> *Sent: *Wednesday, December 7, 2016 4:43:50 AM
> >>>>>>>>> *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] Crash reports
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Course you have to pay a half to a third per cpe for this
> >>>>>>>>>  option.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> On Tue, December 6, 2016 11:26 pm, RickG wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> I'm just waiting to hear how well it's working out from
> >>>>>>>>>> all you
> >>>>>>>>> guinea
> >>>>>>>>>> pigs :P
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 6, 2016 at 11:13 PM, Josh Luthman
> >>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]>
> >>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Epmp elevate!  AP swap done in an hour then go hook
> >>>>>>>>>>> up other
> >>>>>>>>> customers.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Sorry I felt obligated since you pointed me out ;)
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Josh Luthman
> >>>>>>>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
> >>>>>>>>>>> 1100 Wayne St
> >>>>>>>>>>> Suite 1337
> >>>>>>>>>>> Troy, OH 45373
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> On Dec 6, 2016 11:10 PM, "RickG"
> >>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]>
> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> +1!
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 6, 2016 at 4:30 PM, Steve Barnes
> >>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Since all our customer facing stuff was running
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 10MHz
> >>>>>>>>>>>> channels and Airmax we had not applied Wireless
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Security.  We decided to
> >>>>>>>>>>>> start adding security to all clients.  (backhauls
> >>>>>>>>>>>> already had security)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Since applying WPA2-AES to all our Rocket M5 APs
> >>>>>>>>>>>> and CPEs (5.6.9
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> ALL)
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> we have been getting lots of Crash reports on the
> >>>>>>>>>>>> AP
> >>>>>>>>>>>> side an some
> >>>>>>>>> one
> >>>>>>>>>>>> the CPE.  Also have had several AP’s just stop
> >>>>>>>>>>>> passing traffic
> >>>>>>>>> till
> >>>>>>>>>>>> they were rebooted.  Funky communication with AC2
> >>>>>>>>>>>> and all around goofiness of our network that we
> >>>>>>>>>>>> never had without security.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Giving lots of consideration to reversing this
> >>>>>>>>>>>> decision.  Any thoughts or ideas?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> P.S.  ePMP is not an answer Josh.  ☺
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Steve Barnes
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Wireless Operations Manager
> >>>>>>>>>>>> New Lisbon Broadband
> >>>>>>>>>>>> NLBC.COM
> >>>>>>>>>>>> PCSWIN.COM
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 765-584-2288 ext:1101 <(765)%20584-2288>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> <(765)%20584-2288>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
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> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
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