Re: [Ubnt_users] Radios Trying To Contact Decommissioned AC1 Server

[Tim Densmore]

I'm just using ansible.

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On 1/6/2017 2:25 PM, Stuart Pierce wrote:
> In AC1, weren't you able to script a task to execute on the devices? I
> don't see where you can do that in AC2.
>
> On Fri, January 6, 2017 4:04 pm, CBB - Jay Fuller wrote:
>> yes - we dealt with this a few years ago - several radios were talking to
>> an old server the company we purchased ran.  that subnet was no longer
>> even valid on our network.  i remember googling and finding this solution
>> (referenced below) to resolve
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Ridgetop Networks
>> To: Ubiquiti Users Group
>> Sent: Friday, January 6, 2017 2:39 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Radios Trying To Contact Decommissioned AC1
>> Server
>>
>>
>>
>> You need to SSH into the radios that are sending the SYN packets, and use
>> mca-provision-list and mca-provision-rm to find and remove the entries
>> for the old AC1 server.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 6, 2017 at 2:35 PM, Tim Densmore
>>  wrote:
>>
>>
>> Hi Folks,
>>
>>
>> I'm seeing a strange widespread issue on my network so I thought I'd run
>> it by the group.  We had an AC1 server that was decommissioned several
>> months ago when we moved to AC2.  AC2 is up and working fine in a totally
>> different subnet in a totally different physical location - no issue with
>> that.  However, we have multiple (a couple hundred?) radios on 5.6.x and
>> even 6.0 that are periodically sending syn packets to TCP port 9080 on the
>> old server's IP address.  I've grepped the config files on a few of these
>> radios and can't find anything referencing the IP or host name of the old
>> server.  This behavior persists through reboots and firmware upgrades.
>>
>> So far, looking at packet captures, I haven't been able to see any
>> pattern that would indicate that these syn packets are in response to
>> inbound traffic, but I could be missing something obvious since there's
>> quite a bit of customer traffic to sift through and aside from a
>> source/dest IP pair I'm not sure what to look for.
>>
>> Anyone ever seen a similar issue or know of a phone-home setting I'm
>> missing?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>>
>> Tim Densmore
>>
>>
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>>
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>>
>>
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>>
>>
>> www.ridgetopnetworks.com
>>
>>
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Re: [Ubnt_users] Radios Trying To Contact Decommissioned AC1 Server

[Stuart Pierce]

In AC1, weren't you able to script a task to execute on the devices? I
don't see where you can do that in AC2.

On Fri, January 6, 2017 4:04 pm, CBB - Jay Fuller wrote:
>

> yes - we dealt with this a few years ago - several radios were talking to
> an old server the company we purchased ran.  that subnet was no longer
> even valid on our network.  i remember googling and finding this solution
> (referenced below) to resolve
> - Original Message -
> From: Ridgetop Networks
> To: Ubiquiti Users Group
> Sent: Friday, January 6, 2017 2:39 PM
> Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Radios Trying To Contact Decommissioned AC1
> Server
>
>
>
> You need to SSH into the radios that are sending the SYN packets, and use
> mca-provision-list and mca-provision-rm to find and remove the entries
> for the old AC1 server.
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jan 6, 2017 at 2:35 PM, Tim Densmore
>  wrote:
>
>
> Hi Folks,
>
>
> I'm seeing a strange widespread issue on my network so I thought I'd run
> it by the group.  We had an AC1 server that was decommissioned several
> months ago when we moved to AC2.  AC2 is up and working fine in a totally
> different subnet in a totally different physical location - no issue with
> that.  However, we have multiple (a couple hundred?) radios on 5.6.x and
> even 6.0 that are periodically sending syn packets to TCP port 9080 on the
> old server's IP address.  I've grepped the config files on a few of these
> radios and can't find anything referencing the IP or host name of the old
> server.  This behavior persists through reboots and firmware upgrades.
>
> So far, looking at packet captures, I haven't been able to see any
> pattern that would indicate that these syn packets are in response to
> inbound traffic, but I could be missing something obvious since there's
> quite a bit of customer traffic to sift through and aside from a
> source/dest IP pair I'm not sure what to look for.
>
> Anyone ever seen a similar issue or know of a phone-home setting I'm
> missing?
>
> Thanks,
>
>
> Tim Densmore
>
>
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>
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>
>
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>
>
> www.ridgetopnetworks.com
>
>
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Re: [Ubnt_users] Radios Trying To Contact Decommissioned AC1 Server

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

yes - we dealt with this a few years ago - several radios were talking to an 
old server the company we purchased ran.  that subnet was no longer even valid 
on our network.  i remember googling and finding this solution (referenced 
below) to resolve
  - Original Message - 
  From: Ridgetop Networks 
  To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
  Sent: Friday, January 6, 2017 2:39 PM
  Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Radios Trying To Contact Decommissioned AC1 Server


  You need to SSH into the radios that are sending the SYN packets, and use 
mca-provision-list and mca-provision-rm to find and remove the entries for the 
old AC1 server.



  On Fri, Jan 6, 2017 at 2:35 PM, Tim Densmore  
wrote:

Hi Folks,

I'm seeing a strange widespread issue on my network so I thought I'd run
it by the group.  We had an AC1 server that was decommissioned several
months ago when we moved to AC2.  AC2 is up and working fine in a
totally different subnet in a totally different physical location - no
issue with that.  However, we have multiple (a couple hundred?) radios
on 5.6.x and even 6.0 that are periodically sending syn packets to TCP
port 9080 on the old server's IP address.  I've grepped the config files
on a few of these radios and can't find anything referencing the IP or
host name of the old server.  This behavior persists through reboots and
firmware upgrades.

So far, looking at packet captures, I haven't been able to see any
pattern that would indicate that these syn packets are in response to
inbound traffic, but I could be missing something obvious since there's
quite a bit of customer traffic to sift through and aside from a
source/dest IP pair I'm not sure what to look for.

Anyone ever seen a similar issue or know of a phone-home setting I'm
missing?

Thanks,

Tim Densmore

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Re: [Ubnt_users] Radios Trying To Contact Decommissioned AC1 Server

[Tim Densmore]

OK, that's exactly what I was looking for.  They all seem to have a
heartbeat set for the old AC1 server.  Thanks for the quick reply!

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On 1/6/2017 1:39 PM, Ridgetop Networks wrote:
> You need to SSH into the radios that are sending the SYN packets, and
> use mca-provision-list and mca-provision-rm to find and remove the
> entries for the old AC1 server.
>
> On Fri, Jan 6, 2017 at 2:35 PM, Tim Densmore
>  > wrote:
>
> Hi Folks,
>
> I'm seeing a strange widespread issue on my network so I thought
> I'd run
> it by the group.  We had an AC1 server that was decommissioned several
> months ago when we moved to AC2.  AC2 is up and working fine in a
> totally different subnet in a totally different physical location - no
> issue with that.  However, we have multiple (a couple hundred?) radios
> on 5.6.x and even 6.0 that are periodically sending syn packets to TCP
> port 9080 on the old server's IP address.  I've grepped the config
> files
> on a few of these radios and can't find anything referencing the IP or
> host name of the old server.  This behavior persists through
> reboots and
> firmware upgrades.
>
> So far, looking at packet captures, I haven't been able to see any
> pattern that would indicate that these syn packets are in response to
> inbound traffic, but I could be missing something obvious since
> there's
> quite a bit of customer traffic to sift through and aside from a
> source/dest IP pair I'm not sure what to look for.
>
> Anyone ever seen a similar issue or know of a phone-home setting I'm
> missing?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Tim Densmore
>
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Re: [Ubnt_users] Radios Trying To Contact Decommissioned AC1 Server

[Ridgetop Networks]

You need to SSH into the radios that are sending the SYN packets, and use
mca-provision-list and mca-provision-rm to find and remove the entries for
the old AC1 server.

On Fri, Jan 6, 2017 at 2:35 PM, Tim Densmore  wrote:

> Hi Folks,
>
> I'm seeing a strange widespread issue on my network so I thought I'd run
> it by the group.  We had an AC1 server that was decommissioned several
> months ago when we moved to AC2.  AC2 is up and working fine in a
> totally different subnet in a totally different physical location - no
> issue with that.  However, we have multiple (a couple hundred?) radios
> on 5.6.x and even 6.0 that are periodically sending syn packets to TCP
> port 9080 on the old server's IP address.  I've grepped the config files
> on a few of these radios and can't find anything referencing the IP or
> host name of the old server.  This behavior persists through reboots and
> firmware upgrades.
>
> So far, looking at packet captures, I haven't been able to see any
> pattern that would indicate that these syn packets are in response to
> inbound traffic, but I could be missing something obvious since there's
> quite a bit of customer traffic to sift through and aside from a
> source/dest IP pair I'm not sure what to look for.
>
> Anyone ever seen a similar issue or know of a phone-home setting I'm
> missing?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Tim Densmore
>
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[Ubnt_users] Radios Trying To Contact Decommissioned AC1 Server

[Tim Densmore]

Hi Folks,

I'm seeing a strange widespread issue on my network so I thought I'd run
it by the group.  We had an AC1 server that was decommissioned several
months ago when we moved to AC2.  AC2 is up and working fine in a
totally different subnet in a totally different physical location - no
issue with that.  However, we have multiple (a couple hundred?) radios
on 5.6.x and even 6.0 that are periodically sending syn packets to TCP
port 9080 on the old server's IP address.  I've grepped the config files
on a few of these radios and can't find anything referencing the IP or
host name of the old server.  This behavior persists through reboots and
firmware upgrades.

So far, looking at packet captures, I haven't been able to see any
pattern that would indicate that these syn packets are in response to
inbound traffic, but I could be missing something obvious since there's
quite a bit of customer traffic to sift through and aside from a
source/dest IP pair I'm not sure what to look for.

Anyone ever seen a similar issue or know of a phone-home setting I'm
missing?

Thanks,

Tim Densmore

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Re: [Ubnt_users] Airfiber 5x power consumption

[RickG]

Agreed.

On Fri, Jan 6, 2017 at 12:18 PM, Josh Luthman 
wrote:

> IMO you should be replacing the backhaul with licensed before chewing up
> more 5 GHz spectrum.  Use the 5 GHz to your customers.
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Fri, Jan 6, 2017 at 12:09 PM, RickG  wrote:
>
>> LOL, ya. More power hogs here: http://www.balticnetwork
>> s.com/ubiquiti-airfiber-nxn-8x8-mimo-multiplexer.html
>> Anyone try these yet?
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 6, 2017 at 12:03 PM, Josh Luthman <
>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Damned full duplex radios consuming all the electricities.
>>>
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jan 6, 2017 at 11:58 AM, RickG  wrote:
>>>
 Yup. My AF24 is pulling right around 50 watts. Of course, that's two
 radios. Even my AF5s are pulling about 40 watts.

 On Thu, Jan 5, 2017 at 11:19 PM, Rory Conaway 
 wrote:

> I think you are thinking of the AF24’s.  They draw quite a bit more.
>
>
>
> Rory
>
>
>
> *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-bounces@wis
> pa.org] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
> *Sent:* Thursday, January 5, 2017 5:25 PM
> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Airfiber 5x power consumption
>
>
>
> That's why I regulate the voltage.  From as low as 19v it'll do 24v to
> the gear.
>
>
>
> Netonix does this as well.
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
>
>
> On Jan 5, 2017 4:31 PM, "Steve D"  wrote:
>
> Oh, that is bloody fantastic.  Thanks for the responses guys.  I'd
> love to hear from Ubnt guys about the low end power and whether they can
> they safely hit 20v in a worst case scenario.  We really try our best to
> avoid ever going under 24v but it's nice to have wiggle room for days when
> everything goes stupid.  And much, much love for the wide range of input
> voltage because I can totally see ourselves eventually moving to 48v if we
> ever did this again.
>
>
>
> -Steve
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 5, 2017 at 1:22 PM, Mathew Howard 
> wrote:
>
> I've measured similar power consumption... the spec sheet is
> definitely on the high side. I usually figure 8 watts for planning
> purposes, but I haven't ever seen them actually draw that much. According
> to ubiquiti, the input voltage is 19v to 53v now, but I don't think they
> are 802.3af compliant.
> --
>
> *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org]
> on behalf of Josh Luthman [j...@imaginenetworksllc.com]
> *Sent:* Thursday, January 05, 2017 2:46 PM
> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Airfiber 5x power consumption
>
> Power consumption
>
>
>
> Wall is 123vac. Amp meter says 0.07a. 8.61 watts. This is the factory
> POE.
>
> POE spits out 24vdc. Amp meter said 0.23a. 5.52 watts.
>
> I waited ~10 minutes after it booted to look. They were definitely
> associated. It's running 33dBm EIRP @ 5240.
>
>
>
> 6 watt radio I would *NOT* call power hungry at all.
>
>
>
> They were 24v radios on the first shipment, there's a specific MAC
> address range (very small).  These days they're 24-48 volts.  It's to the
> point where Netonix is removing 24vh (power on 4 pairs) because AF5x was
> the only radio that uses it and it isn't necessary but for a small number
> of existing units.
>
>
>
> I think the cut off is 20v?
>
>
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 5, 2017 at 3:42 PM, Adair Winter <
> ada...@amarillowireless.net> wrote:
>
> We run them at 24 and 48 volts no problem. never tried them on less
> than 24 though.
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 5, 2017 at 2:41 PM, Steve D  wrote:
>
> Spec sheet says they'll take an input voltage between 19-29v and draw
> up to 12watts.  Anyone able to tell me how true this is?  Looking to bolt
> something onto a solar site, and I was under the impression the airfiber
> line was *power hungry*.  Plus, I could have sworn they were af802.3
> compliant so 48 volt.  This isn't a case of someone copy pasting spec

Re: [Ubnt_users] Airfiber 5x power consumption

[Josh Luthman]

IMO you should be replacing the backhaul with licensed before chewing up
more 5 GHz spectrum.  Use the 5 GHz to your customers.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Fri, Jan 6, 2017 at 12:09 PM, RickG  wrote:

> LOL, ya. More power hogs here: http://www.balticnetworks.com/ubiquiti-
> airfiber-nxn-8x8-mimo-multiplexer.html
> Anyone try these yet?
>
> On Fri, Jan 6, 2017 at 12:03 PM, Josh Luthman  > wrote:
>
>> Damned full duplex radios consuming all the electricities.
>>
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 6, 2017 at 11:58 AM, RickG  wrote:
>>
>>> Yup. My AF24 is pulling right around 50 watts. Of course, that's two
>>> radios. Even my AF5s are pulling about 40 watts.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jan 5, 2017 at 11:19 PM, Rory Conaway 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 I think you are thinking of the AF24’s.  They draw quite a bit more.



 Rory



 *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-bounces@wis
 pa.org] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
 *Sent:* Thursday, January 5, 2017 5:25 PM
 *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
 *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Airfiber 5x power consumption



 That's why I regulate the voltage.  From as low as 19v it'll do 24v to
 the gear.



 Netonix does this as well.

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
 Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373



 On Jan 5, 2017 4:31 PM, "Steve D"  wrote:

 Oh, that is bloody fantastic.  Thanks for the responses guys.  I'd love
 to hear from Ubnt guys about the low end power and whether they can they
 safely hit 20v in a worst case scenario.  We really try our best to avoid
 ever going under 24v but it's nice to have wiggle room for days when
 everything goes stupid.  And much, much love for the wide range of input
 voltage because I can totally see ourselves eventually moving to 48v if we
 ever did this again.



 -Steve



 On Thu, Jan 5, 2017 at 1:22 PM, Mathew Howard 
 wrote:

 I've measured similar power consumption... the spec sheet is definitely
 on the high side. I usually figure 8 watts for planning purposes, but I
 haven't ever seen them actually draw that much. According to ubiquiti, the
 input voltage is 19v to 53v now, but I don't think they are 802.3af
 compliant.
 --

 *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on
 behalf of Josh Luthman [j...@imaginenetworksllc.com]
 *Sent:* Thursday, January 05, 2017 2:46 PM
 *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
 *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Airfiber 5x power consumption

 Power consumption



 Wall is 123vac. Amp meter says 0.07a. 8.61 watts. This is the factory
 POE.

 POE spits out 24vdc. Amp meter said 0.23a. 5.52 watts.

 I waited ~10 minutes after it booted to look. They were definitely
 associated. It's running 33dBm EIRP @ 5240.



 6 watt radio I would *NOT* call power hungry at all.



 They were 24v radios on the first shipment, there's a specific MAC
 address range (very small).  These days they're 24-48 volts.  It's to the
 point where Netonix is removing 24vh (power on 4 pairs) because AF5x was
 the only radio that uses it and it isn't necessary but for a small number
 of existing units.



 I think the cut off is 20v?




 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
 Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373



 On Thu, Jan 5, 2017 at 3:42 PM, Adair Winter <
 ada...@amarillowireless.net> wrote:

 We run them at 24 and 48 volts no problem. never tried them on less
 than 24 though.



 On Thu, Jan 5, 2017 at 2:41 PM, Steve D  wrote:

 Spec sheet says they'll take an input voltage between 19-29v and draw
 up to 12watts.  Anyone able to tell me how true this is?  Looking to bolt
 something onto a solar site, and I was under the impression the airfiber
 line was *power hungry*.  Plus, I could have sworn they were af802.3
 compliant so 48 volt.  This isn't a case of someone copy pasting spec
 sheets from airmax radios, is it?



 Cheers,



 -Steve



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Re: [Ubnt_users] Airfiber 5x power consumption

[RickG]

LOL, ya. More power hogs here:
http://www.balticnetworks.com/ubiquiti-airfiber-nxn-8x8-mimo-multiplexer.html
Anyone try these yet?

On Fri, Jan 6, 2017 at 12:03 PM, Josh Luthman 
wrote:

> Damned full duplex radios consuming all the electricities.
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Fri, Jan 6, 2017 at 11:58 AM, RickG  wrote:
>
>> Yup. My AF24 is pulling right around 50 watts. Of course, that's two
>> radios. Even my AF5s are pulling about 40 watts.
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 5, 2017 at 11:19 PM, Rory Conaway 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I think you are thinking of the AF24’s.  They draw quite a bit more.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Rory
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-bounces@wis
>>> pa.org] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, January 5, 2017 5:25 PM
>>> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
>>> *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Airfiber 5x power consumption
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> That's why I regulate the voltage.  From as low as 19v it'll do 24v to
>>> the gear.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Netonix does this as well.
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jan 5, 2017 4:31 PM, "Steve D"  wrote:
>>>
>>> Oh, that is bloody fantastic.  Thanks for the responses guys.  I'd love
>>> to hear from Ubnt guys about the low end power and whether they can they
>>> safely hit 20v in a worst case scenario.  We really try our best to avoid
>>> ever going under 24v but it's nice to have wiggle room for days when
>>> everything goes stupid.  And much, much love for the wide range of input
>>> voltage because I can totally see ourselves eventually moving to 48v if we
>>> ever did this again.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -Steve
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jan 5, 2017 at 1:22 PM, Mathew Howard 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I've measured similar power consumption... the spec sheet is definitely
>>> on the high side. I usually figure 8 watts for planning purposes, but I
>>> haven't ever seen them actually draw that much. According to ubiquiti, the
>>> input voltage is 19v to 53v now, but I don't think they are 802.3af
>>> compliant.
>>> --
>>>
>>> *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on
>>> behalf of Josh Luthman [j...@imaginenetworksllc.com]
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, January 05, 2017 2:46 PM
>>> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
>>> *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Airfiber 5x power consumption
>>>
>>> Power consumption
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Wall is 123vac. Amp meter says 0.07a. 8.61 watts. This is the factory
>>> POE.
>>>
>>> POE spits out 24vdc. Amp meter said 0.23a. 5.52 watts.
>>>
>>> I waited ~10 minutes after it booted to look. They were definitely
>>> associated. It's running 33dBm EIRP @ 5240.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 6 watt radio I would *NOT* call power hungry at all.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> They were 24v radios on the first shipment, there's a specific MAC
>>> address range (very small).  These days they're 24-48 volts.  It's to the
>>> point where Netonix is removing 24vh (power on 4 pairs) because AF5x was
>>> the only radio that uses it and it isn't necessary but for a small number
>>> of existing units.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I think the cut off is 20v?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jan 5, 2017 at 3:42 PM, Adair Winter <
>>> ada...@amarillowireless.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> We run them at 24 and 48 volts no problem. never tried them on less than
>>> 24 though.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jan 5, 2017 at 2:41 PM, Steve D  wrote:
>>>
>>> Spec sheet says they'll take an input voltage between 19-29v and draw up
>>> to 12watts.  Anyone able to tell me how true this is?  Looking to bolt
>>> something onto a solar site, and I was under the impression the airfiber
>>> line was *power hungry*.  Plus, I could have sworn they were af802.3
>>> compliant so 48 volt.  This isn't a case of someone copy pasting spec
>>> sheets from airmax radios, is it?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -Steve
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Adair Winter
>>> VP, Network Operations / Co-Owner
>>> Amarillo Wireless | 806.316.5071 <(806)%20316-5071>
>>> C: 806.231.7180 <(806)%20231-7180>
>>> http://www.amarillowireless.net
>>> 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 

Re: [Ubnt_users] Airfiber 5x power consumption

[Josh Luthman]

Damned full duplex radios consuming all the electricities.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Fri, Jan 6, 2017 at 11:58 AM, RickG  wrote:

> Yup. My AF24 is pulling right around 50 watts. Of course, that's two
> radios. Even my AF5s are pulling about 40 watts.
>
> On Thu, Jan 5, 2017 at 11:19 PM, Rory Conaway 
> wrote:
>
>> I think you are thinking of the AF24’s.  They draw quite a bit more.
>>
>>
>>
>> Rory
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org]
>> *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
>> *Sent:* Thursday, January 5, 2017 5:25 PM
>> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
>> *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Airfiber 5x power consumption
>>
>>
>>
>> That's why I regulate the voltage.  From as low as 19v it'll do 24v to
>> the gear.
>>
>>
>>
>> Netonix does this as well.
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jan 5, 2017 4:31 PM, "Steve D"  wrote:
>>
>> Oh, that is bloody fantastic.  Thanks for the responses guys.  I'd love
>> to hear from Ubnt guys about the low end power and whether they can they
>> safely hit 20v in a worst case scenario.  We really try our best to avoid
>> ever going under 24v but it's nice to have wiggle room for days when
>> everything goes stupid.  And much, much love for the wide range of input
>> voltage because I can totally see ourselves eventually moving to 48v if we
>> ever did this again.
>>
>>
>>
>> -Steve
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 5, 2017 at 1:22 PM, Mathew Howard 
>> wrote:
>>
>> I've measured similar power consumption... the spec sheet is definitely
>> on the high side. I usually figure 8 watts for planning purposes, but I
>> haven't ever seen them actually draw that much. According to ubiquiti, the
>> input voltage is 19v to 53v now, but I don't think they are 802.3af
>> compliant.
>> --
>>
>> *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on
>> behalf of Josh Luthman [j...@imaginenetworksllc.com]
>> *Sent:* Thursday, January 05, 2017 2:46 PM
>> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
>> *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Airfiber 5x power consumption
>>
>> Power consumption
>>
>>
>>
>> Wall is 123vac. Amp meter says 0.07a. 8.61 watts. This is the factory POE.
>>
>> POE spits out 24vdc. Amp meter said 0.23a. 5.52 watts.
>>
>> I waited ~10 minutes after it booted to look. They were definitely
>> associated. It's running 33dBm EIRP @ 5240.
>>
>>
>>
>> 6 watt radio I would *NOT* call power hungry at all.
>>
>>
>>
>> They were 24v radios on the first shipment, there's a specific MAC
>> address range (very small).  These days they're 24-48 volts.  It's to the
>> point where Netonix is removing 24vh (power on 4 pairs) because AF5x was
>> the only radio that uses it and it isn't necessary but for a small number
>> of existing units.
>>
>>
>>
>> I think the cut off is 20v?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 5, 2017 at 3:42 PM, Adair Winter 
>> wrote:
>>
>> We run them at 24 and 48 volts no problem. never tried them on less than
>> 24 though.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 5, 2017 at 2:41 PM, Steve D  wrote:
>>
>> Spec sheet says they'll take an input voltage between 19-29v and draw up
>> to 12watts.  Anyone able to tell me how true this is?  Looking to bolt
>> something onto a solar site, and I was under the impression the airfiber
>> line was *power hungry*.  Plus, I could have sworn they were af802.3
>> compliant so 48 volt.  This isn't a case of someone copy pasting spec
>> sheets from airmax radios, is it?
>>
>>
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>>
>>
>> -Steve
>>
>>
>>
>> ___
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>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Adair Winter
>> VP, Network Operations / Co-Owner
>> Amarillo Wireless | 806.316.5071 <(806)%20316-5071>
>> C: 806.231.7180 <(806)%20231-7180>
>> http://www.amarillowireless.net
>> 
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [Ubnt_users] Airfiber 5x power consumption

[RickG]

Yup. My AF24 is pulling right around 50 watts. Of course, that's two
radios. Even my AF5s are pulling about 40 watts.

On Thu, Jan 5, 2017 at 11:19 PM, Rory Conaway 
wrote:

> I think you are thinking of the AF24’s.  They draw quite a bit more.
>
>
>
> Rory
>
>
>
> *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org]
> *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
> *Sent:* Thursday, January 5, 2017 5:25 PM
> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Airfiber 5x power consumption
>
>
>
> That's why I regulate the voltage.  From as low as 19v it'll do 24v to the
> gear.
>
>
>
> Netonix does this as well.
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
>
>
> On Jan 5, 2017 4:31 PM, "Steve D"  wrote:
>
> Oh, that is bloody fantastic.  Thanks for the responses guys.  I'd love to
> hear from Ubnt guys about the low end power and whether they can they
> safely hit 20v in a worst case scenario.  We really try our best to avoid
> ever going under 24v but it's nice to have wiggle room for days when
> everything goes stupid.  And much, much love for the wide range of input
> voltage because I can totally see ourselves eventually moving to 48v if we
> ever did this again.
>
>
>
> -Steve
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 5, 2017 at 1:22 PM, Mathew Howard  wrote:
>
> I've measured similar power consumption... the spec sheet is definitely on
> the high side. I usually figure 8 watts for planning purposes, but I
> haven't ever seen them actually draw that much. According to ubiquiti, the
> input voltage is 19v to 53v now, but I don't think they are 802.3af
> compliant.
> --
>
> *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on
> behalf of Josh Luthman [j...@imaginenetworksllc.com]
> *Sent:* Thursday, January 05, 2017 2:46 PM
> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Airfiber 5x power consumption
>
> Power consumption
>
>
>
> Wall is 123vac. Amp meter says 0.07a. 8.61 watts. This is the factory POE.
>
> POE spits out 24vdc. Amp meter said 0.23a. 5.52 watts.
>
> I waited ~10 minutes after it booted to look. They were definitely
> associated. It's running 33dBm EIRP @ 5240.
>
>
>
> 6 watt radio I would *NOT* call power hungry at all.
>
>
>
> They were 24v radios on the first shipment, there's a specific MAC address
> range (very small).  These days they're 24-48 volts.  It's to the point
> where Netonix is removing 24vh (power on 4 pairs) because AF5x was the only
> radio that uses it and it isn't necessary but for a small number of
> existing units.
>
>
>
> I think the cut off is 20v?
>
>
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 5, 2017 at 3:42 PM, Adair Winter 
> wrote:
>
> We run them at 24 and 48 volts no problem. never tried them on less than
> 24 though.
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 5, 2017 at 2:41 PM, Steve D  wrote:
>
> Spec sheet says they'll take an input voltage between 19-29v and draw up
> to 12watts.  Anyone able to tell me how true this is?  Looking to bolt
> something onto a solar site, and I was under the impression the airfiber
> line was *power hungry*.  Plus, I could have sworn they were af802.3
> compliant so 48 volt.  This isn't a case of someone copy pasting spec
> sheets from airmax radios, is it?
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
>
>
> -Steve
>
>
>
> ___
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> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users
>
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> Adair Winter
> VP, Network Operations / Co-Owner
> Amarillo Wireless | 806.316.5071 <(806)%20316-5071>
> C: 806.231.7180 <(806)%20231-7180>
> http://www.amarillowireless.net
> 
>
>
>
>
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>
>
>
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Re: [Ubnt_users] 2.4 throughput. gotta love being a wisp

[Ridgetop Networks]

The alternative data rate profile may be worth a try, also.

On Fri, Jan 6, 2017 at 7:14 AM,  wrote:

> Jay,
>
> At the range your charts shows, 2.4 works but 5 is better for your 10 meg
> speeds.  I have a mix and have been splitting my 2.4 sectors and adding 5
> gbs sectors for heavy users as I was seeing the 2.4 sectors struggle with
> the increased number of clients as I increased plans for faster speed!  My
> issue is 5 Ghz does not travel through trees like the 2.4 gbs does for me,
> so I work to balance those towers with more choices for installers, but I
> am connecting up to 6 miles in my area for many.
>
> I would also try turning Airmax off.  In my area it doesn't always help
> and actually slows the clients down, which may be the issue.  Also, check
> power settings on radios around the customers complaining or certain
> towers as the local interference from those radios may be impacting you.
> I have some down to 6 power if they are 1/2 mile of less with clean line
> of sight to tower.  Works fine and reduces interference I generate.
>
> Good Luck!
>
> Troy
>
> >
> > will play with 5.6.9 later today - anyone else able to comment on this?
> > back to the initial question - am i trying too hard with 10 meg packages
> > on 2.4 rockets with these numbers?
> > should the radios be able to do that?
> >
> > do i need to go post in ubnt forums? :)
> >
> > maybe i will lol
> >
> >
> >   - Original Message -
> >   From: RickG
> >   To: Ubiquiti Users Group
> >   Sent: Thursday, January 5, 2017 12:12 AM
> >   Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] 2.4 throughput. gotta love being a wisp
> >
> >
> >   Yes and the time frame matches the 5.6.x FW suspicion. It comes & goes
> > and so far I have not been able to pinpoint it.
> >
> >
> >   On Wed, Jan 4, 2017 at 11:44 PM, Ken Patrick 
> wrote:
> >
> > Jay,
> >
> >
> > We get these complaints from customers and I have always ignored it
> as
> > long as everything looks fine from our end.
> > But this has increased significantly since the Virus and 5.6.x
> > firmware and I think we need to critically look at it and not dismiss
> > it. There is no way a ton of customers can be hallucinating at the
> > same time
> >
> >
> > The complaints are usually in the form of its slow or  the internet
> > goes off and on especially if you are on the DFS band.
> >
> >
> > Is anyone else experiencing this kinds of complaints ??
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Regards
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Jan 5, 2017 at 4:45 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller
> >  wrote:
> >
> >
> >   oh, if you're wondering, management downgraded him to our lowest
> > package today and said "do not upgrade him even if he asks"
> >   we suspect he'll visit his parents more :)
> >   base package is 3 meg
> >
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: CBB - Jay Fuller
> > To: Ubiquiti Users Group
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 4, 2017 9:40 PM
> > Subject: [Ubnt_users] 2.4 throughput. gotta love being a wisp
> >
> >
> >
> > We've got an average of 14 users on our 2.4 rockets.  10 mhz
> > channels.  some are sectors, some are omnis.
> >
> > Currently one 2.4 rocket has 13 connections (one guy dropped for
> > t-mobile??!!)   I guess that makes sense, no one
> > else has t-mobile down here - so here are the current stats :
> >
> > airmax quality - 83%
> > airmax capacity - 80%
> >
> > here is the stations list and their signals -
> >
> >
> >
> > Access point is running 6.0 ; stations are 5.6.3
> > That'll change soon - maybe end of January.
> >
> >
> > I have a 2nd 2.4 rocket we are also monitoring - it also has 14
> > users on it
> >
> > airmax quality is 75%
> > airmax capacity is 70%
> >
> > also running 6.0  stations are 5.6.3
> >
> > \
> >
> > I am selling 10 meg packages off these access points.  In some
> > cases folks are buying more than that.
> > Sometimes I can get 22 meg linktests using the ubnt speed tests.
> >
> > I've noticed in the last week or two i've seen people
> > disconnecting -
> >
> > "i'm only getting 2 meg, this is not acceptable"
> >
> > here's my favorite - a kid files a complaint against us with the
> > bbb -
> >
> > "If you can avoid doing business with this company, I would
> > STRONGLY suggest it. This company is very sneaky, and claims that
> > the incredibly poor service and frequent downtime is simply out of
> > their hand. They offer a "completely unlimited package" for x
> > in which they CLAIM "as much connectivity as your radio allows".
> > After compiling data from around 100+ bandwidth connections tests
> > over the course of 6 months, with the average speed being around
> > 7Mbits (896 kilobytes). The pricing is not even close to
> > reflecting the service, the cap on the xx  package is 

Re: [Ubnt_users] 2.4 throughput. gotta love being a wisp

[troy]

Jay,

At the range your charts shows, 2.4 works but 5 is better for your 10 meg
speeds.  I have a mix and have been splitting my 2.4 sectors and adding 5
gbs sectors for heavy users as I was seeing the 2.4 sectors struggle with
the increased number of clients as I increased plans for faster speed!  My
issue is 5 Ghz does not travel through trees like the 2.4 gbs does for me,
so I work to balance those towers with more choices for installers, but I
am connecting up to 6 miles in my area for many.

I would also try turning Airmax off.  In my area it doesn't always help
and actually slows the clients down, which may be the issue.  Also, check
power settings on radios around the customers complaining or certain
towers as the local interference from those radios may be impacting you. 
I have some down to 6 power if they are 1/2 mile of less with clean line
of sight to tower.  Works fine and reduces interference I generate.

Good Luck!

Troy

>
> will play with 5.6.9 later today - anyone else able to comment on this?
> back to the initial question - am i trying too hard with 10 meg packages
> on 2.4 rockets with these numbers?
> should the radios be able to do that?
>
> do i need to go post in ubnt forums? :)
>
> maybe i will lol
>
>
>   - Original Message -
>   From: RickG
>   To: Ubiquiti Users Group
>   Sent: Thursday, January 5, 2017 12:12 AM
>   Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] 2.4 throughput. gotta love being a wisp
>
>
>   Yes and the time frame matches the 5.6.x FW suspicion. It comes & goes
> and so far I have not been able to pinpoint it.
>
>
>   On Wed, Jan 4, 2017 at 11:44 PM, Ken Patrick  wrote:
>
> Jay,
>
>
> We get these complaints from customers and I have always ignored it as
> long as everything looks fine from our end.
> But this has increased significantly since the Virus and 5.6.x
> firmware and I think we need to critically look at it and not dismiss
> it. There is no way a ton of customers can be hallucinating at the
> same time
>
>
> The complaints are usually in the form of its slow or  the internet
> goes off and on especially if you are on the DFS band.
>
>
> Is anyone else experiencing this kinds of complaints ??
>
>
>
>
> Regards
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 5, 2017 at 4:45 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller
>  wrote:
>
>
>   oh, if you're wondering, management downgraded him to our lowest
> package today and said "do not upgrade him even if he asks"
>   we suspect he'll visit his parents more :)
>   base package is 3 meg
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: CBB - Jay Fuller
> To: Ubiquiti Users Group
> Sent: Wednesday, January 4, 2017 9:40 PM
> Subject: [Ubnt_users] 2.4 throughput. gotta love being a wisp
>
>
>
> We've got an average of 14 users on our 2.4 rockets.  10 mhz
> channels.  some are sectors, some are omnis.
>
> Currently one 2.4 rocket has 13 connections (one guy dropped for
> t-mobile??!!)   I guess that makes sense, no one
> else has t-mobile down here - so here are the current stats :
>
> airmax quality - 83%
> airmax capacity - 80%
>
> here is the stations list and their signals -
>
>
>
> Access point is running 6.0 ; stations are 5.6.3
> That'll change soon - maybe end of January.
>
>
> I have a 2nd 2.4 rocket we are also monitoring - it also has 14
> users on it
>
> airmax quality is 75%
> airmax capacity is 70%
>
> also running 6.0  stations are 5.6.3
>
> \
>
> I am selling 10 meg packages off these access points.  In some
> cases folks are buying more than that.
> Sometimes I can get 22 meg linktests using the ubnt speed tests.
>
> I've noticed in the last week or two i've seen people
> disconnecting -
>
> "i'm only getting 2 meg, this is not acceptable"
>
> here's my favorite - a kid files a complaint against us with the
> bbb -
>
> "If you can avoid doing business with this company, I would
> STRONGLY suggest it. This company is very sneaky, and claims that
> the incredibly poor service and frequent downtime is simply out of
> their hand. They offer a "completely unlimited package" for x
> in which they CLAIM "as much connectivity as your radio allows".
> After compiling data from around 100+ bandwidth connections tests
> over the course of 6 months, with the average speed being around
> 7Mbits (896 kilobytes). The pricing is not even close to
> reflecting the service, the cap on the xx  package is 10Mbits,
> so I am not even reaching the average on that. I can only say that
> the highest tier package is nothing short of a scam. Whenever I
> called to complain about this outrageous service, I was told that
> it was too bad, and that nothing will be done. xx is a
> conman, relying on shady business tactics to further his greed."
>
> btw - i can't recall any downtime 

Re: [Ubnt_users] 6.0 issues

[troy]

Steve,

I had similar issue on M5 XW Rocket.  Station side of Backhaul would stop
sending data but would stay connected to AP.  I could access both
remotely.  Once I rebooted remotely through the radio access or Air
Control, the Station side the tower connected and clients had service.

I tried all firmwares, 5.6.9, 6.0 and nothing worked.  I was on 5.6.4 when
the issues started.  I never used Ping Watchdog previously, but set it up
on the Station side causing me issues to ping backwards on the tower to
one sector behind the Backhaul Station causing issues.  Once I did that
the tower never dropped again and it was dropping every hour.  I then
planned the trip a few days later and replaced the radio completely with
new M5.  Working great now with no Ping watchdog set up on new radio.

Troy


> Jerry are you finding going back to 5.6.9 can stabilize this issue.  We
> have Rocket M5(XM) that are doing the same thing.  One sector just had 6
> clients offline and rebooting the AP restored all the clients.
>
> We had a few clients that were having issues and after reverting back to
> 5.6.9 the radios died.  Don't want to do that on a 300ft tower AP when its
> 17 degrees outside.
>
> Steve Barnes
> Wireless Operations Manager
> New Lisbon Broadband
> NLBC.COM
> PCSWIN.COM
> 765-584-2288 ext:1101
>
> From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org]
> On Behalf Of Jerry Head
> Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2017 3:45 PM
> To: ubnt_users@wispa.org
> Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] 2.4 throughput. gotta love being a wisp
>
> I would advise against putting 6.0 on XM APs. As they drop subs with that
> version.
> A reboot gets them back but...yuck.
>
> On 1/5/2017 10:39 AM, Darin Steffl wrote:
> Just try going to 6.0 first on AP and STA and see if it improves. Also
> make sure you Airview scan that you're on the best channel.
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 5, 2017 at 10:17 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller
> > wrote:
>
> will play with 5.6.9 later today - anyone else able to comment on this?
> back to the initial question - am i trying too hard with 10 meg packages
> on 2.4 rockets with these numbers?
> should the radios be able to do that?
> do i need to go post in ubnt forums? :)
>
> maybe i will lol
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: RickG
> To: Ubiquiti Users Group
> Sent: Thursday, January 5, 2017 12:12 AM
> Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] 2.4 throughput. gotta love being a wisp
>
> Yes and the time frame matches the 5.6.x FW suspicion. It comes & goes and
> so far I have not been able to pinpoint it.
>
> On Wed, Jan 4, 2017 at 11:44 PM, Ken Patrick
> > wrote:
> Jay,
>
> We get these complaints from customers and I have always ignored it as
> long as everything looks fine from our end.
> But this has increased significantly since the Virus and 5.6.x firmware
> and I think we need to critically look at it and not dismiss it. There is
> no way a ton of customers can be hallucinating at the same time
>
> The complaints are usually in the form of its slow or  the internet goes
> off and on especially if you are on the DFS band.
>
> Is anyone else experiencing this kinds of complaints ??
>
>
> Regards
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 5, 2017 at 4:45 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller
> > wrote:
>
> oh, if you're wondering, management downgraded him to our lowest package
> today and said "do not upgrade him even if he asks"
> we suspect he'll visit his parents more :)
> base package is 3 meg
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: CBB - Jay Fuller
> To: Ubiquiti Users Group
> Sent: Wednesday, January 4, 2017 9:40 PM
> Subject: [Ubnt_users] 2.4 throughput. gotta love being a wisp
>
>
> We've got an average of 14 users on our 2.4 rockets.  10 mhz channels.
> some are sectors, some are omnis.
>
> Currently one 2.4 rocket has 13 connections (one guy dropped for
> t-mobile??!!)   I guess that makes sense, no one
> else has t-mobile down here - so here are the current stats :
>
> airmax quality - 83%
> airmax capacity - 80%
>
> here is the stations list and their signals -
>
> [cid:image001.jpg@01D26770.0D24CF80]
>
> Access point is running 6.0 ; stations are 5.6.3
> That'll change soon - maybe end of January.
>
>
> I have a 2nd 2.4 rocket we are also monitoring - it also has 14 users on
> it
>
> airmax quality is 75%
> airmax capacity is 70%
>
> also running 6.0  stations are 5.6.3
>
> [cid:image002.jpg@01D26770.0D24CF80]\
>
> I am selling 10 meg packages off these access points.  In some cases folks
> are buying more than that.
> Sometimes I can get 22 meg linktests using the ubnt speed tests.
>
> I've noticed in the last week or two i've seen people disconnecting -
>
> "i'm only getting 2 meg, this is not acceptable"
>
> here's my favorite - a kid files a complaint