Re: [Ubnt_users] 4096 QAM (was: 24Ghz link Airfiber)

[Nate Burke]

I think I've seen you make this claim a few times, but I don't recall 
seeing it from anyone else.  Is this your real world experience, or 
where is this info coming from?  Any test data to look at? Test 
equipment used , latency, packet loss, signal levels, PCN expectations?  
Based on Knowing the guys on the Airfiber team, I would trust their 
throughput claims over normal UBNT Products.


On 4/16/2017 7:14 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:
They haven't achieved much more than 500 megabits real throughput in 
one direction. They end up with a lot of bits on the floor.




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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 


*From: *"J Portman" 
*To: *"Ubiquiti Users Group" 
*Sent: *Sunday, April 16, 2017 7:00:49 PM
*Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] 4096 QAM (was: 24Ghz link Airfiber)

Actually, looks like the AF11x will perform as good (or maybe better) 
than the B11 for less cost.

1024QAM with MIMO. They claim 1.3 gig each direction on 56MHZ channel.

799 per radio, ($1600/pair) plus antennas puts the whole link in the 
$3000 range with what looks like outstanding performance for the price.



I am now officially considering UBNT as a possible vendor for three 
links I need to do in the next few months.


YMMV,

JP


*On Sun, 16 Apr 2017 01:10:01 + (GMT), Faisal Imtiaz wrote*
> I love these kinds of conversations everyone get hunkered down 
to comparing the tech specs..

>

> Yes, Yes, yes... no argument that there better radios
>

> But also stop and think for a moment, what was the 'effect' of the 
B11 becoming available in the market place, for our industry ?

>
> 1).. A new technical concepts introduced.
> 2).. An artificial glass ceiling of 'you cannot touch this' in the 
Licensed world challenged and broken

> 3)..A new price point established
> 4) Greatly Expanded the Market for lower cost licensed links
> 5) Greatly expanded the CHOICES ... you may not like it.. but 
some others cannot afford your favorite product ...(To each their own).

>
> Do you think the AF11x would be a product if B11's were never 
introduced ?
> Do you think that the other MFG would be under pressure to bring 
their absorbent product pricing down ?

> Phoopho it as much as you like, the facts don't change..
>

> :)
>

> Happy Easter Everyone !
>

> Regards
>

> Faisal Imtiaz
> Snappy Internet & Telecom
> 7266 SW 48 Street
> Miami, FL 33155
> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
>
> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net
>
>


>

*From: *"Mathew Howard" 
> *To: *"Ubiquiti Users Group" 
> *Sent: *Saturday, April 15, 2017 8:58:33 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] 4096 QAM (was: 24Ghz link Airfiber)
> 



>


>
> Not to mention the fact that you have to use fixed up/down
ratios on the B11 to make sync work, which makes them even more
inefficient...and adds a bunch of latency.
>
> All GPS sync really doesn't add any capabilities beyond what you
get with a real FDD link (and actually does have a lot of
disadvantages, which have already been pointed out). B11s are
great if you need to move a gig of data over 11ghz for cheap and
have the channels available, but technically superior to other
11ghz radios they are not. I wouldn't even consider using a B11
anywhere that I couldn't license enough channels to run it at full
capacity.
>
>


> *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org
[ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of Mike Hammett
[wispaubntus...@ics-il.net]
> *Sent:* Saturday, April 15, 2017 4:33 PM
> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] 4096 QAM (was: 24Ghz link Airfiber)
>
>
> Sure there is...  as long as it's that exact same product. SAF
Lumina can coexist with SIAE, Ceragon, Alcoma, Exalt, etc. as long
as they all Tx or all Rx.
>
> B11 can co-exist with any radio as long as it's a B11 with the
same sync settings.
>
>

-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Re: [Ubnt_users] 24Ghz link Airfiber

[Nate Burke]

Same here, with the AF24 line, always see full throughput.  Is it 
possible the routers on the ends can't handle the throughput? Especially 
if they are generating the traffic for the Bandwidth test.


On 4/13/2017 7:22 AM, Adair Winter wrote:

we move 700+Mb easily over our air fibers. how are you testing?

On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 7:14 AM, Tim-GM 
> wrote:


Installed our first AirFiber link 3.62 miles

DB numbers 65-66 match the airlink model

We have them set at full duplex

All indications are a 764-759 meg link

Yet our TCP-IP throughput is 300-330meg

Any thoughts on why?

The signal have solid colors for each chain on both sides

What are your experiences




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Re: [Ubnt_users] EdgePoint

[Nate Burke]

Which model?  I have both 6 port and 16 port units deployed that I have 
bought from distributors.


On 10/10/2016 8:49 AM, Andy Trimmell wrote:


So I was reading the forums and UBNT staff said they were shipping at 
the first of August……anyone have any of these for purchase yet or 
still on the boat?


Andy Trimmell

/Systems Engineer/

*PDS Connect*

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Re: [Ubnt_users] RB2011UiAS -- FiberPOE sfp woes

[Nate Burke]

Did you try setting the speed/duplex instead of using Auto negotiate?

On 9/12/2016 7:34 PM, Jeff Evans wrote:
> I have an RB2011UiAS that I want to use for a customers home router, we
> have an 800 foot fiber run to a ubnt FiberPOE.   Any modules I've tried
> only show Tx on the Interface, I have also tried the modules on a
> Netonix switch (replacing the FiberPoe) with the same result.
>
> The fiber modules that I have tried : Mikrotik S35LC20D/S53LC20D pair --
> MAXXwave MW-1315-SM-US/MW-1513-SM-US pair
>   the above both give me the blue light of success on the
> FiberPOE but no real joy.
>
> AND a set of Maxxwave MW-LX-SM-US -- dual fiber, no light on the
> FiberPOE with this.
>
> any ideas?  Thanks!
>

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