A few questions concerning Ubuntu 13.04

2013-05-06 Thread Robert Cole

Hello, everyone.

I have enjoyed using fedora over the past year or so, but I just do not 
have time to solve the big problems which I am having with the system. 
My wife and family who use my system have run into quite a number of 
issues, and it makes their experience pretty unpleasant.


I am thinking about moving back to Ubuntu, but I have a few questions:

1) Does the problem with the Compiz eZoom plugin on Unity 3D still exist 
(e.g. only the desktop area si zoomed, but the panel and dash remain 
unaltered)?


2) If I install GNOME Shell, will it be version 3.6 or 3.8?

I appreciate your help on this one.

Take care, everyone.

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Re: A few questions concerning Ubuntu 13.04

2013-05-06 Thread Krishnakant Mane
Gnome shell is 3.6 on Ubuntu 13.04 by default but you can add 3.8 which 
in my experience is very accessible and nice to work with.

happy hacking.
Krishnakant.

On 05/06/2013 08:39 PM, Robert Cole wrote:

Hello, everyone.

I have enjoyed using fedora over the past year or so, but I just do 
not have time to solve the big problems which I am having with the 
system. My wife and family who use my system have run into quite a 
number of issues, and it makes their experience pretty unpleasant.


I am thinking about moving back to Ubuntu, but I have a few questions:

1) Does the problem with the Compiz eZoom plugin on Unity 3D still 
exist (e.g. only the desktop area si zoomed, but the panel and dash 
remain unaltered)?


2) If I install GNOME Shell, will it be version 3.6 or 3.8?

I appreciate your help on this one.

Take care, everyone.




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Re: A few questions concerning Ubuntu 13.04

2013-05-06 Thread Dave Hunt
The GNOME shell, in Ubuntu 13.04 seems to be 3.6, but Orca is 3.8.  You 
can upgrade GNOME to 3.8 from an add-on ppa.  Would you consider using 
the GNOME Shell respin of Ubuntu, instead of the default?  Might you 
also consider a more-stable GNOME distro like Opensuse 12.3?




Cheers,



Dave




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Re: A few questions concerning Ubuntu 13.04

2013-05-06 Thread Luke Yelavich
On Tue, May 07, 2013 at 01:09:54AM EST, Robert Cole wrote:
 Hello, everyone.
 
 I have enjoyed using fedora over the past year or so, but I just do
 not have time to solve the big problems which I am having with the
 system. My wife and family who use my system have run into quite a
 number of issues, and it makes their experience pretty unpleasant.
 
 I am thinking about moving back to Ubuntu, but I have a few questions:
 
 1) Does the problem with the Compiz eZoom plugin on Unity 3D still
 exist (e.g. only the desktop area si zoomed, but the panel and dash
 remain unaltered)?

Yes, this is still a problem, and won't be solved with the current Compiz+unity 
code base. At this point I don't know whether a magnifier will be written for 
the new Unity rewrite in 14.04 either. I will try to push for one, but no 
promises.

Luke

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Re: A few questions concerning Ubuntu 13.04

2013-05-06 Thread Robert Cole

Luke,

It may not make much of a difference, but I posted the following message 
to Ubuntu's Facebook page.


I know that it may sound fickle with all that is going on in the world 
today, but it is just saddening when you feel at home using your 
operating system of choice and then it is almost like you are locked out 
of where you once lived. That is how I felt when I learned that Ubuntu 
was no longer usable to me. I understand the whole idea of 
innovation...it is just too bad that they, in a sense, are leaving us 
out of it.


By no means am I trying to discredit all of the work which has been put 
in to making UBuntu accessible over the years. And, as I mention below, 
I have no intention of sounding irate. I just hope that, someday in the 
future, they remember us.


Thanks again for responding to my message here on the list.

Take care.


 I am not writing this message with any ill intent, and I
 certainly do not at all wish to seem irate.

 I do not know if this will be seen by anyone who can make a
 difference, but I want to leave a message here just in case.

 I am a former low-vision Ubuntu user. Ubuntu has a very
 special place in my heart; it was the first Linux distribution
 which I came to know and love as a solid, stable alternative
 to proprietary alternatives on the market. Ubuntu is what I
 used throughout my college career. It is the operating system
 which I wanted to stick with for the long-haul.

 Over the past two years, I have been put in Linux Limbo. When
 I first started using Ubuntu, I began to work with the Compiz
 Window Manager's eZoom plugin which allowed me to literally
 magnify my screen, making it so that I could fully access my
 system. Things were wonderful. Unity came into the picture,
 and I was excited to try out a new desktop environment. I felt
 that Unity was a wonderful environment in which to work. The
 eZoom plugin for Compiz worked very well in Unity 2D, but not
 so well at all in Unity 3D. Then the bad news came about:
 Unity 2D was being discontinued.

 You have a very elegant operating system, but myself as well
 as many other visually impaired users have been tossed out.
 For the past two years, I have been living in Linux Limbo. I
 know that there are distributions for blind users out there,
 but I am the only blind member in my family, and I would
 rather use Ubuntu.

 It was brought to my attention that there may not be a
 magnifier in upcoming versions of Ubuntu.

 I am not writing this as an advocate for the visually impaired
 community (but there are many who are very disappointed in
 what is going on in the area of accessibility within Ubuntu),
 but rather as a saddened and concerned user. I felt at home
 using Ubuntu, but now it seems as though there is nothing to
 come back to.

 You have some wonderful people who work with you who want to
 make Ubuntu accessible, but they have very limited resources.
 I am writing today to kindly and humbly ask you if you would
 please do something about this. There are visually impaired
 individuals around the world who truly depend on Ubuntu
 because ti is solid and user-friendly, but they have no idea
 where to go because they are being left behind.

 Would you please stop for a moment and consider these users,
 of which I am one, who cannot afford proprietary assistive
 technologies, and who have stuck with your operating system
 because of the philosophy which it once stood for--humanity
 toward others

 I believe that innovation is a wonderful thing. Thee is so
 much technology out there that can be used to make your
 operating system accessible to the blind. Please do not let it
 go to waste.

 Thank you for taking the time to read this. If you know
 someone who could make a difference in bringing Ubuntu back to
 us blind users, would you please share this with them.

 Kind regards,

 Bob


On 05/06/2013 03:42 PM, Luke Yelavich wrote:

On Tue, May 07, 2013 at 01:09:54AM EST, Robert Cole wrote:

Hello, everyone.

I have enjoyed using fedora over the past year or so, but I just do
not have time to solve the big problems which I am having with the
system. My wife and family who use my system have run into quite a
number of issues, and it makes their experience pretty unpleasant.

I am thinking about moving back to Ubuntu, but I have a few questions:

1) Does the problem with the Compiz eZoom plugin on Unity 3D still
exist (e.g. only the desktop area si zoomed, but the panel and dash
remain unaltered)?

Yes, this is still a problem, and won't be solved with the current