upgrade failure
Greetings, I seem to have run into trouble upgrading from Ubuntu8.04 to Ubuntu10.04. The other night, I figured I would try the upgrade process while the internet trafic should be low. I logged into my administrator account and ran sudo aptitude update followed by sudo aptitude safe-upgrade. There were about 8 packages that were updated and none listed as NOT UPGRADABLE. After the standard update process completed, from the gnome-terminal, I ran sudo do-release-upgrade. Every thing started off fine. It took about half an hour to download the necessary packages from the repositories. I monitored the process for a little while (10-15 minutes) after that: It looked like the standard update messages to me (preparing to replace package version x with package version y ...). Since the entire process might take afew hours (Before downloading, it said there were over 600 packages to instal and well over 1,000 to upgrade) I decided to stretch my legs a little and came back to check on the progress every 15-30 minutes. After about 2 hours, orca stopped speaking and I found a small rectangular dialog box in the middle of the screen. I wasn't sure if orca just lost focus so first I tried altTabbing to give the dialog focus. Nothing seemed to happen. I tried bringing up the run dialog to re-launch orca (I'm still in gnome-2.22, orca randomly stops and I find re-launching it manually appears to work), but the run dialog didn't appear to pop up. Before I could try anything else, the screen went almost blank. To me it looked deep blue, and I saw some stuff an the extreme top and bottom of the screen which I assume was the outline of the top and bottom panels. I wasn't sure what was going on, but the processor sounded like it was still chugging along, so I left everything alone until it slowed down. When the processor sounded like it stopped cranking, I waited about fifteen minutes and nothing happened. i switched to text console 1 and logged in. I connected my braillenote and attempted to launch brltty. I never recieved any output on the braille display, but I noticed the screen filled with messages. They kept coming and coming. Visually, it looked like when I run an update process; They had a little bit of variation in length and some popped up quickly while others took longer before the next message joined the queue. I hoped the release process was still going. I stepped back before my impationtce got the better of me. I came back about every half hour and pressed the control key to reactivate the screen (I'm on a laptop and every thirty or so minutes of inactivity and the screen goes to sleep i guess). Eventually, the screen appeared to stop scrolling. All the messages stacked up in columns. It took another hour before I could get sighted assistance to review what was going on (about 7 hours from the start of do-release-upgrade). I was getting an infinite loop of messagesstating brltty could't open device. I had disconnected the braillenote a while back to keep it from getting dropped. I tried reconnecting it, but it didn't appear to have any effect. After another 15 or so minutes, I just gave up and pressed the power button on the laptop and killed everything. When i came back to reboot, I got the regular grub menu (I duel boot with windows XP). Sighted assistance says the ubunntu entry is 8.04. When I trie to launch buntu I'm not surprised to get a static screen full of messages. From talking with sighted assistance (who doesn't know linux) it appears a basic shell is launched after several modues nd devices fail to load. There's no log-in so I presume the users aren't being initialized. help age a long list of commands that appear to be standard shell commands cat, mount, umount, c). Before I do anything drastic, is there a way to recover? from the basic shell, can i remount my root an home partitions and either re-start or continue the installation process? or is there at least a way to capture the messages (or any other relevant information) say to a text file on a USB stick? thanks in advance for any suggestions. _ The New Busy is not the too busy. Combine all your e-mail accounts with Hotmail. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multiaccountocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_4-- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
RE: upgrading to lucid
Hi Bill, Sorry, I forgot to mention I was way back on Hardy (8.04 LTS). I had origianally considered apt-get dist-upgrade, but some one else on the list claimed it provided problems. I scavenged the ubuntu wiki and found a couple passing references to do-release-upgrade. I don't think I have much hacks on my system. I built atk, at-spi and orca--for the 2.22 desktop--from git (so i could build against liblouis). Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2010 08:17:21 -0400 Subject: Re: upgrading to lucid From: waywardg...@gmail.com To: aerospace1...@hotmail.com CC: ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com I always ran $ sudo apt-get dist-upgrade But I've had trouble most times with this. More often than not, I have not been able to boot my machine into Gnome after a dist-upgrade from a full release back. However, I hack my system pretty heavily, so my experience is probably not the norm. If you're running a recent Lucid Beta or release candidate, it will probably work. Be sure to do a full backup before the upgrade, and be prepared to do a full reinstall if things don't work out. Bill On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 7:46 AM, aerospace1...@hotmail.com wrote: greetings, I did some more research on how to update ubuntu distributions from the command line. The two options appear to be: (1) sudo update-manager (2) sudo do-release-upgrade -m desktop method 1 would just launch the graphical application from the command line (gnome-terminal) and in general is the recommended distribution upgrade method from the ubuntu wiki. I can't find much doccumentation on do-release-upgrade, are there any drastic differences btween what these two programs do? Does anyone have any advice on which is the better (faster? more accessible?) method for updateing my Ubuntu system to lucid? Thanks:-) The New Busy is not the old busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. Get started. -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility _ The New Busy think 9 to 5 is a cute idea. Combine multiple calendars with Hotmail. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multicalendarocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_5-- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
RE: upgrading to lucid
Thanks Tim, I was leaning towards do-release-upgrade because I'm a little more comfortable with the comand-line than graphical applications. I think I'm going to wait a couple of days before attempting the upgrade to let the traffic through the repositories slow down. thanks:-) Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2010 13:34:41 +1000 To: aerospace1...@hotmail.com CC: ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com Subject: Re:upgrading to lucid From: tcr...@rapttech.com.au I have always used do-release-upgrade. This morning, I used it to upgrade to lucid and all looks OK so far. I'm a bit old fashioned though. My main interface is based on emacspeak. I've not used orca that much. Therefore, I tend to use text based apps over graphics based ones, despite the fact I run under X. Tim aerospace1...@hotmail.com writes: greetings, I did some more research on how to update ubuntu distributions from the command line. The two options appear to be: (1) sudo update-manager (2) sudo do-release-upgrade -m desktop method 1 would just launch the graphical application from the command line (gnome-terminal) and in general is the recommended distribution upgrade method from the ubuntu wiki. I can't find much doccumentation on do-release-upgrade, are there any drastic differences btween what these two programs do? Does anyone have any advice on which is the better (faster? more accessible?) method for updateing my Ubuntu system to lucid? Thanks:-) _ The New Busy is not the old busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_3 -- -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility -- Tim Cross tcr...@rapttech.com.au There are two types of people in IT - those who do not manage what they understand and those who do not understand what they manage. -- Tim Cross tcr...@rapttech.com.au There are two types of people in IT - those who do not manage what they understand and those who do not understand what they manage. _ The New Busy think 9 to 5 is a cute idea. Combine multiple calendars with Hotmail. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multicalendarocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_5-- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
re:[orca-list] upgrading from hardy
Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 19:35:14 + From: Michael Weaver michaelweav...@btinternet.com To: ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com, orca-l...@gnome.org Subject: [orca-list] upgrading from hardy Message-ID: 94117.24461...@smtp818.mail.ukl.yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed i did a sudo do-release upgrade in hardy and got the error message no upgrade found how do i resolve this so i can get the next version? do i need to edit the sourcesddlist file and change any line with deb http at the beginning to the next distribution name before i do my sudo-do-release-upgrade? try checking /etc/update-maneger/release-upgrades (I know /etc/update-maneger/ is the correct directory, I might have the file name off). The setting Prompt should be set to normal and not lts. Otherwise, you won't get a valid release until lucid is Officially published in April. My understanding is that if you wish to upgrade from a stable distribution to a development release, you should append the -d flag to either do-release-upgrade or update-manager (which ever update method you prefer). _ Hotmail is redefining busy with tools for the New Busy. Get more from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID27925::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:032010_2-- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
upgrade preperations
Greetings, I am in the process of making my plan to upgrade to lucid when it is officially released in April. I am currently using Ubuntu 8.04 LTS and I want to make sure everything is set for the transition to go as smooth as possible. Some potentially useful background: I'm using a laptop: duel-booting Ubuntu and Windows XP. I HAVE Ubuntu split over two partitions (One for / and one for /home). I maintain regular (monthly) backups of my rootsystem and home directories (each partition gets its own backup). under the settings for software sources and preferences (found under the administration menu of the top pannel: I don't recall the exact name), I currently have my system set to only upgrade to LTS versions of Ubuntu. (A) configuration files? Will my settings in configuration files (I.E. those found in /etc/) remain preserved across the upgrade? Also will anything I added to ~.bashrc be preserved as well? Or will I need to re-tweek these files upon upgrade. (B) custom-builds? I built the git editions of orca, at-spi and atk for the gnome-2.22 system. Will apt-get dist-upgrade automatically replace these with the default versions for lucid, or should I uninstall the git-builds and re-install the repository versions? (C) best upgrade method? I've been switching from apt-get to aptitude for my package-management uses, but from reading the documentation in man, it looks like apt-get dist-upgrade is the recommended method for upgrading distribution releases from the command-line: is this correct? (D) anything else? Are there any other concerns I should be looking at? Useful tidbits to keep in mind? Thank you in advance for your assistance:-) I look forward to getting caught back up with the linux community. _ Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/210850553/direct/01/-- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
re: accessible backup program
greetings, Do to technical difficulties I have fallen behind with the ubuntu and orca mailing lists. I noticed no one had responded to this yet. I'm not sure what your needs are, but I just use tar to make a compressed archive of my system. I even restored from tar once too. An explination of how to use tar for backing up can be found here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem/TAR Does anyone know if there is an accessible backup program which is easy to use? I tried Sbackup but I had a few problems. It would only allow you to navigate the program if you were already logged in as administrator in the Sbackup configuration program and I couldn't seem to be able to use the restore app because of this admin problem. The other thing was I found I couldn't get a status on progress of backups when I tried it. _ Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/201469230/direct/01/-- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
re: Anyone know how to increase the console font size
In Ubuntu Lucid Alpha, the fonts on the console are really tiny. In Karmic, they were nice and large. Does anyone know how to modify the console font size? Just exploring my system the other day, I noticed a file, /etc/default/console-settings. There is a section to set font face and font size. The preceding comments doccument available fonts and their respective size options. Not sure if this is of any use or not. _ Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/201469227/direct/01/-- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
intltool
Greetings, I recently ran into an insident, whereby I BROKE DOWN AND RE-INSTALLED MY UBUNTU SYSTEM. I am in the process of reconfiguring my system but I have run into a problem compiling at-spi for orca. I am using the LTS release of ubuntu (8.04 hardy harron). The default orca that comes with this release is 2.22. I successfully built atk from git using the origin/gnome-2-22 branch. However now when I run ./autogen.sh (with the appropriate prefix and libexecdir flags) to compile the origin/2-22 branch of at-spi, I get an error message that my intltool is obsolete. I tried installing intltool through apt-get, but it tells me that the version installed is up-to-date. Is there any way of upgrading intltool on ubuntu.04 so i can finish upgrading at-spi and orca? Post script: yes I know i *COULD* download and install ubuntu9.10. I'm holding out for the next LTS release. _ Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/171222984/direct/01/-- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
RE: Ubuntu-accessibility Digest, Vol 47, Issue 12re: gnuchess
greetings, It's difficult for me to thell from your post exacctly what your problem is. (a) if it's dealing with the display: gnuchess by default has a textual display, and there are several graphical overlays that can be obtained. I can not comment on the graphical front-ends because I have never used them. The simple text display of the board uses capital letters for player 1 (the light colored pieces), so R for player 1's rook; and lower case letter for player 2 (the dark colored pieces), so r for player 2's rook. It might be difficult to notice these differences with orca/speakup/etc, many vissually impared users of gnuchess typically use a braille display to review the board. (b) if you are having a problem entering in your moves: Again, I can not comment of the various graphical over-lays. Running gnuchess from the commandline in text mode, standard algebraic notation works. I.E. RA1-a5 would move a rook from square a1 to a5 (assuming this is a legal move). If you are trying to caputre a rook with a rook, Ra1xRa8 (or whaterver the case may be). As long as you include the starting and ending square, there should never be any confusion. If you still have trouble with this, e-mail me off-list and i'll try and help you as best I can:-) _ Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft’s powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141664/direct/01/-- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
firewall quesstions
greetings, I almost think something similar had been asked on this list a few months ago, but i could not dig it up in the archives. First off, after a year of growing comfortable with ubuntu and orca on a test machine, I finally installed Ubuntu (8.04 hardy herrin) onto my everyday machine. My test machine did not have internet access, so there were still several asspecs of ubuntu I was unable to try. In particular, I would like to implimment a firewall before I turn the internet on while using my new ubuntu system (FYI, the computer is set up to duel-boot from windows as well). Doing some basic research I found out there are two options, firestarter and ufw. 1: is firestarter accessible with orca? @: which is easier to learn for a novice? I have no experience with network management, iftables or other advanced concepts. In windows, I set my firewall to high/highest security and don't need to return to it often. All I want is to allow my necessary activity (apt-get update, reading my e-mail and googling instructions on how to get orca/ubuntu/etc to work well) and block almost everything else. Thankyou:-) and appologies for jumping in now. I know most people are focused on the upcoming 9.04 release. _ Windows Live™ SkyDrive: Get 25 GB of free online storage. http://windowslive.com/online/skydrive?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_skydrive_032009-- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
re: Problem with Orca
hello Alain, My problem : In general, I cannot access to the different gnome desktop utilities because, when the software is launched and when the window is opened, orca doesn't to speak any more. For example : the window connexion (menu System/Administration/window connexion) Orca speaks and I can choose a menu. Then, when the window is open, Orca no longer speaks. When I close the window with ctrl-F4, Orca speaks again. It sounds like you have not modified orca to run administrative tasks. Someone more knowledgeable than I should probably explain about system administration in Gnu/Linux+Ubuntu, but the instructions that might address your problem may be found on the orca wiki (http://live.gnome.org/Orca/SysAdmin). I hope this helps. If this doesn't work, or you have trouble with the instructions, please let the list know, and we should be able to provide more assistance. _ Store, manage and share up to 5GB with Windows Live SkyDrive. http://skydrive.live.com/welcome.aspx?provision=1?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_skydrive_102008 -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
braille
greetings, I've recently installed ubuntu 8.04. I'm trying to get BRLTTY working. I've changed no to yes in /etc/default/brltty, and edited /etc/brltty.conf with my personal preffrences--Braillenote, serial port, NACB, etc--but BRLTTY doesn't start automatically. when I try running brltty from the command line, I get the message: rev UNKNOWN [http://mielke.cc.brltty/] Does anyone have any idea what is wrong? _ Got Game? Win Prizes in the Windows Live Hotmail Mobile Summer Games Trivia Contest http://www.gowindowslive.com/summergames?ocid=TXT_TAGHM -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
re: accessible login
update. I've managed to get the accessible login working. I do have one issue: when typing in my password, I hear the letters I am typing. For example, if I type bob into the password field, I hear b star o star b star. Does anybody know what is causeing this? Is it an orca thing, or an ubuntu thing, or just a random something else? thank you:-) _ Get Windows Live and get whatever you need, wherever you are. Start here. http://www.windowslive.com/default.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Home_082008 -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
accessible login
greetings, I just recently switched from Ubuntu 7.10 to Ubuntu 8.04 on my test machine. I'm trying to get the accessible login working. I know I got it working with 7.10, but I'm not sure what I'm missing. I copied the relevant lines from /etc/gdm/gdm.conf (the doccumentation needs to be updated, it says the files are in /etc/X11/gdm) to the corrisponding location in /etc/gdm/gdm.conf-custom. I uncommented the AddGtkModules line and set it to true. I also uncommented the GtkModulesList=Gail,Act-bridge,AccessKeyMouseEvents,AccessDwelMouseEvents line. I also added ,gdm to the audio line in /etc/groups. I ran the commands sudo gdmflexiserver --command=UPDATE_CONFIG daemon/AddGtkModules sudo gdmflexiserver --command=UPDATE_CONFIG daemon/GtkModulesList In /etc/gdm/modules/AccessKeyMouseEvents, it says holding CTRL+s for 1 second should start orca at the login, but I can't get it to work. I tried changing the duration from 1000 to 0 milliseconds and still could not get orca to speak at login. Orca works automatically post-login. Does anyone have any suggestions? Was I supposed to change from GtkGreeter to the simpler GTKLogin? Is there something I'm missing? _ Your PC, mobile phone, and online services work together like never before. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/108587394/direct/01/ -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
brltty autostart
Greetings, I have recently been working at getting my braillenote set up as a braille display with Ubuntu (7.10 gutsy). I have the brltty checkbox marked in the services manager (located under the administration menu item on the top bar). But brltty doesn't seam to be starting correctly. A: when the computer gets to the login prompt, instead of the drum-beat, the computer beeps (sounds like the system beep; ASCII character 7). b: to initiate brltty I still have to login as administrator and run sudo brltty from the command prompt. Is there a way to get brltty to start automatically so I don't need to login as administrator and logout/login as non-administrator to use brltty under my non-administrator account? (I'm still aclimmating to linux/ubuntu and I like to do most of my work as non-administrator for my own protection.) It's not a major issue (the process does result in a working brltty), but it'd be just that much more convenient to login straight away under the account I'm going to use. thank you:-) _ Spell a grand slam in this game where word skill meets World Series. Get in the game. http://club.live.com/word_slugger.aspx?icid=word_slugger_wlhm_admod_april08 -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
re: help restoring orca and at-spi
Greetings, Just an update. This past weekend I managed to get ubuntu re-installed. It is up and running with orca 2.20.0 and working well. _ Connect and share in new ways with Windows Live. http://www.windowslive.com/share.html?ocid=TXT_TAGHM_Wave2_sharelife_012008-- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
re: help restoring orca and at-spi
Ok, have you double-checked your /etc/apt/sources.list file? If not, check it, and then run sudo apt-get update, and try installing gnome-orca again.- -- Luke Yelavich Is there anything in particular I should be looking for? The first line is uncommented and points to the installation CD. The remaining http lines are all commented out (the machine isn't connected to the internet, so apt-get can't find them anyway). At one point I had added a line at the very end deb file:/home/me /debs when I was trying to create a local repository for the orca deb files. I completely removed the line from the /etc/apt/sources.list file and emptied the directory /home/yoda/debs of all its contents. I did an apt-get update an tried to install orca again, but I still get the same message. Any ideas? _ Need to know the score, the latest news, or you need your Hotmail®-get your fix. http://www.msnmobilefix.com/Default.aspx-- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
re: help restoring orca and at-spi
Ookay, I used the redirector to grab the output of apt-get to a file. I'm apparently getting a different message: Reading package lists...Building dependency tree...Reading state information...Package gnome-orca is not available, but is referred to by another package.This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, oris only available from another sourceHowever the following packages replace it: python-orca-brlapi however when I tried apt-get install python-orca-brlapi I got the standard python-orca-brlapi is the most up-to-date installed; no new packages available. I'm not sure where to go frm here? _ Share life as it happens with the new Windows Live. http://www.windowslive.com/share.html?ocid=TXT_TAGHM_Wave2_sharelife_012008-- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
updating ubuntu
Greetings all, I successfully installed ubuntu 7.10 gutsy gibbon this morning. The machine I installed on does not have an internet connection. I am interested in finding out how to upgrade to a newer version of orca. I know synaptic can generate a shell script to download the deb packages, but without an internet connection, ubuntu thinks I have the most up-to-date orca around. I poked around the ubuntu arcives and think I found the right gnome-orca deb file, but i don't know how to install it on my ubuntu system or if thereare any other dependencies. Wen I try opening th file in ubuntu, just below the menu bar tere's an erro message saying omethng about how this would conflict with the existing orca installation. Does anyone know how to install orca this way? Thank you Thank you _ Get the power of Windows + Web with the new Windows Live. http://www.windowslive.com?ocid=TXT_TAGHM_Wave2_powerofwindows_012008-- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
RE: have CD now what?
Greetings Ari, I think I ran into a simullar problem. I posted a thread about the live cd. You should be able to find it in the archieve, but the basic thing is that for some reason or other, orca won't start automatically from the live cd and it needs to be started manually. After you're all loaded in, press ALT+F2 to bring up the run dialog. Type gnome-terminal This will launch the command line. type orca -t This will start orca in the terminal with the text setup option. Orca should start reading a list of options. Follow the instructions to set-up accessibility. When you're done close the terminal (orca will still have control and you won't have a prompt so you'll have to press ALT+F4, or ALT+SPACEBAR then up arrow once and press enter.). Now you can start orca by pressing ALT+F2 and typing orca. Alternatively you can start orca from the run dialog when ubuntu loads n; this will start orca and launch the preferences dialog, if you make any changes I found I had to log out for them to take effect (logging out with the live cd just re-logs you back in). Hopefully that should do the trick. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: have CD now what?Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2007 19:18:51 +0200 Hi everyone, Sorry for not getting back sooner, have had internet connection problems. My question is, is the CD I'm trying to use got Orca, because, I first wanted to see Orca as a live CD, so, on 3 different computers, I booted, pressed f5, then pressed 4 for Orca (sighted help told me that it's 4), then enter twice. Ubuntu CD then spins, plays the sound card test, so there's nothing wrong with the card, and then the desktop loads, but Orca doesn't start speaking! I've tried it on three different computers, but no speech, what could be wrong? I wait for ages, but nothing. The CD I have is Gutsy, I think it's 7.1. What am I doing wrong? Thanks Ari _ Share life as it happens with the new Windows Live. http://www.windowslive.com/share.html?ocid=TXT_TAGHM_Wave2_sharelife_122007-- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
slightly ot installing ubuntu with windows
greetings all, I'm getting ready to instal ubuntu on my test machine. I am interested in finding out about establishing a duel boot system. From what I understand, it is possible to partitian an existing windows harddrive and load ubuntu onto one of the partitians. I was wondering if anyone knew where I could find more information about this process? especially any difficulties (in general and orca related) or things that could go wrong before I make the disicion to go with a duel instal or wipe out windows and go all ubuntu. Thank you _ Don't get caught with egg on your face. Play Chicktionary! http://club.live.com/chicktionary.aspx?icid=chick_wlhmtextlink1_dec-- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
re: working ubuntu distrobution
Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2007 00:50:38 -0800From: Justin Harford [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: working ubuntu distributionTo: ubuntu ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.comMessage-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; format=flowed;delsp=yes Hello I downloaded the ubuntu disk image from the website www.ubuntu.com. It was ok installing it, but after that, it is not starting. I am guessing that accessibility is still broken in this copy. I would just like someone to tell me how I might find a working copy. Thank you Hello, I think this might be relevant to my previous posts. I found some trouble with the Ubuntu7.10 gutsy gibbon live cd. I couldn't get orca to start automatically, but once I start it manually, it works wel. To start orca do the following: 1. press ALT + F2 (to bring up the run dialog)2. type gnome-terminal (without the quotes to bring up theterminal or command line)3. type orca -t (to launch orca with text set-up instead of graphically)4. follow the on-screen spoken instructions 5. close the terminal. Orca still has control so you don't have a prompt; you'll have to press CTRL + SPACEBAR then up arrow once to close or quit or whatever the label is.6. press ALT + F2 (to bring up the run dialg again)7. type orca (without the quotes) And you should be up and running. I am told that once ubuntu is permanently installed, orca will start automatically, but I still haven't gotten that far yet. _ Don't get caught with egg on your face. Play Chicktionary! http://club.live.com/chicktionary.aspx?icid=chick_wlhmtextlink1_dec-- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
re: special characters in open office
Thank you. That seems to work well. Plus it works on a laptop unlike Microsoft's method of holding down the ALT key and typing out the decimal value with the numpad. Add a point for linux. Is there a trick to this dialog that I don't know? or is there an alternate manner of entering special characters? The windows equivalent allows the user to enter the unicode value for the character but I don't see anything like that here.If you know the hexadecimal Unicode number of the character, you canuse Ctrl+Shift+U, then enter the hexadecimal number, followed by spaceor return. _ The best games are on Xbox 360. Click here for a special offer on an Xbox 360 Console. http://www.xbox.com/en-US/hardware/wheretobuy/-- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
re: have CD now what?
Greetings Ari,The Gnome live orca page has links to instructions for installing Ubuntu with orca. They don't have Ubuntu 7.10 gutsy gibbin instructions yet, but they do have Ubuntu7.04 feisty fawn instructions at (http://live.gnome.org/Orca/UbuntuFeisty). You might also want to look at the gnoem live main page (http://live.gnome.org/Orca). There are links to some audio files; one of which doccuments the instalation process (again for Ubuntu 7.04 feisty fawn). I can not give any personal advice because I still have not taken the plunge and installed Ubuntu yet. For the moment I am playing around with the live Cd as a way of practicing with the system without messing anything up. I can say that I am impressed with what I have seen so far. I hope this information is helpful. If you have any trouble, I found the support from this list very helpful and effective. Hi all,Have at last got a Ubuntu CD, 7.10. Where's a link now to a written guide on how to install Ubuntu with Orca and to use Orca? I will be doing it on a laptop, so it would be great if the guide deals with that. Again, I've always been a Windows user, so really don't know much about command line or linux terminology or structures, having come from a GUI environment, so I'm hoping it's an easy-to-understand guide. I'm also not the most technical person either.Ari _ i’m is proud to present Cause Effect, a series about real people making a difference. http://im.live.com/Messenger/IM/MTV/?source=text_Cause_Effect-- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
RE: live CD and orca
Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 11:46:09 -0600 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com Subject: RE: live CD and orca Okay, another thing to try. When you get into the list box, hit down arrow three times; then hit spacebar once then hit tab once then hit enter. If that doesn't work, instead of typing orca, type orca -t enter and see if orca starts talking. Pressing space then tab didn't seem to do anything. typing orca -t did bring up orca speeking. After I make the changes in the preferences dialog (turning off key echo, switching from desktop to laptop, etc) I need to quit orca and re-start it (*not* ubuntu, just orca) for the changes to take effect. Is that normal behavior? _ Get the power of Windows + Web with the new Windows Live. http://www.windowslive.com?ocid=TXT_TAGHM_Wave2_powerofwindows_122007-- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
RE: live CD and orca
Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 17:31:20 -0600 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com Subject: Re: live CD and orca An alternative to try. The list box launches and you're placed at the top not on a numbered selection. So try hitting downarrow three times then hit enter and see if orca comes up. They really need to put another selection in that list box too for those that can't use a mouse and need to use orca too. I have tried this as well. In both cases (pushing the number 3 or using the arrow keys) the entry does not automatically start orca. It is activating the gnome accessibility; when I do type orca in the run dialog, I don't get the enable key echo (y/n) enable braille (y/n) enable braille monitor (y/n) routine that ends with gnome accessibility has been activated you must restart for the changes to take effect. Would you like to restart now? I also tried the third entry in the list (same as pushing number 2). This option automatically launches orca as a magnifier. I haven't tested any other options in the list yet because the boot time is so long. I was considering trying to boot into Ubuntu with a different option each day and keep a log of what each item in the list actually does (but I still haven't figured out what 3 is doing). I'm not sure if that would be helpful for the list to have? _ Get the power of Windows + Web with the new Windows Live. http://www.windowslive.com?ocid=TXT_TAGHM_Wave2_powerofwindows_122007-- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
