[Bug 1768521]
I'm now using Thunar 1.82 in the Xubuntu test ppa. The bug is still present. In fact, it is worse if anything. There is ALWAYS a ghost file left after moving files. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1768521 Title: ghost files remain after moving files To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/thunar/+bug/1768521/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1512120]
With some help I was able to compile thunar with the new patch for xubuntu 16.04 Curiously, I wasn't able to trigger a crash running the renaming test but it just crashed during a renaming session using thunar's batch renaming tool. Has anyone else had a crash with the patch? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1512120 Title: [SRU] thunar crashes on file renaming To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/thunar/+bug/1512120/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1512120]
And crashing with dragging and dropping has returned for me. I will roll back to the previous patched version I was using. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1512120 Title: [SRU] thunar crashes on file renaming To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/thunar/+bug/1512120/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1512120]
Harald's patch solves the drag/drop crashes. Roy's patch solves the renaming crashes. I guess we need to combine them both. Perhaps someone with more programming experience can tell us if the two patches are likely to interfere with one another. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1512120 Title: [SRU] thunar crashes on file renaming To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/thunar/+bug/1512120/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1512120]
Hey Peter why don't you remove yourself from all these bug reports and do the rest of us a favour. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1512120 Title: [SRU] thunar crashes on file renaming To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/thunar/+bug/1512120/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1512120]
I am sick to death of a$$holes who contribute nothing useful coming on here and criticising others for making an effort to get this bug fixed. You guys have no manners and act like you own the world but I don't see any of your contributions. This is the problem with linux. It is infected with a$$holes who flame everyone. Get a life asshole and let the rest of us try to identify and fix the bug that you are too useless to fix. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1512120 Title: [SRU] thunar crashes on file renaming To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/thunar/+bug/1512120/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1512120]
@yuri. Thanks Yuri, I appreciated the PPA. Much easier to test. After some additional testing: kernel 4.9.4 patched Thunar hangs when trying to view contents on newly inserted flash drive. kernel 4.7.10 same. Thunar hangs. Can't mount or view contents. BUT I have discovered that thunar only hangs if the icon for it is clicked from Devices on Thunar's Side Bar. If I click the Places icon I have on one of my panels and select the flash drive, Thunar opens it without any problems. Perhaps someone else can test this to confirm this behaviour. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1512120 Title: [SRU] thunar crashes on file renaming To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/thunar/+bug/1512120/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1512120]
@Yuri. Thunar hangs for me trying to view the contents of a newly inserted flash drive. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1512120 Title: [SRU] thunar crashes on file renaming To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/thunar/+bug/1512120/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1512120]
You could have been friendlier. Instead you show yourself to be an asshole. Adios. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1512120 Title: [SRU] thunar crashes on file renaming To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/thunar/+bug/1512120/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1512120]
Yes, please add it to the mailing list and ask for Harald's thoughts. I'm not on any mailing lists because I got tired of the egos and flaming. Perhaps if Harald gives his thoughts and something is decided you can just post a small summary here for the benefit of those affected who simply want to know something constructive is being planned / actioned. Thank you :) -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1512120 Title: [SRU] thunar crashes on file renaming To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/thunar/+bug/1512120/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1512120]
Nothing can proceed forwards until we get some feedback from the main xfce developers. I'm not even sure if anyone is in charge of the thunar project and my attempts in the past to ask what the status of the project is with regard to fixing the bugs have gone unanswered. Perhaps they have a plan in action already (other than just applying patches to address the symptoms)? It would be nice to know "yes, we have it sorted" or "no, we have no clue". -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1512120 Title: [SRU] thunar crashes on file renaming To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/thunar/+bug/1512120/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1512120]
Offering a bounty is a nice idea but I still think this requires something bigger. We really need to crowdfund to hire a software engineer to re-write a significant chunk of code rather than just work out a single fix. It might even lead to some of the other papercut bugs getting sorted (I know I've posted bug reports for several small "weird" behaviours that shouldn't be considered "normal" behaviour in a file manager. Too bad thunar is written in C. If it was Python or something higher level we'd probably have these things sorted because more people would be able to contribute (myself included). -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1512120 Title: [SRU] thunar crashes on file renaming To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/thunar/+bug/1512120/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1512120]
Perhaps it is time to fund a dedicated, professional software engineer to fix this once and for all. It's clear that parts of the code base need a complete rewrite and at the moment it feels like the patches are only mitigating the symptoms rather than addressing the real cause. Maybe this is something that can be crowdfunded. Please *don't* flame me for making this suggestion but as someone who loves xfce and thunar I'd be happy to contribute money towards such a goal and so would many others who are tired of thunar crashing. It's just a suggestion. It just seems we are not really making progress carrying on the way we are. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1512120 Title: [SRU] thunar crashes on file renaming To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/thunar/+bug/1512120/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1512120]
@Roy, when you were testing did you also try to trigger a desktop crash? Most times when I use Extract Here from the right click context menu on the desktop, it extracts the archive but when the temporary directory is renamed > DESKTOP CRASH! Did it yesterday when I extracted the latest firefox archive on the desktop (it gets renamed to just 'firefox' and that triggers it). I think it is the same bug as the rename bug and if it is perhaps it is not thunar itself but the underlying libraries i.e. xfce4-desktop triggering the same crash as thunar. Thoughts? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1512120 Title: [SRU] thunar crashes on file renaming To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/thunar/+bug/1512120/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1512120]
If anyone compiles a thunar binary compatible with xubuntu 16.04 I am happy to test it. I'd be happy to compile it myself but the last time I tried I made a mess of my system because the instructions I found for compiling it weren't accurate enough. But I am happy to help test binaries :) -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1512120 Title: [SRU] thunar crashes on file renaming To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/thunar/+bug/1512120/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1512120]
Created attachment 6658 Martin's Patched Thunar Binary -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1512120 Title: [SRU] thunar crashes on file renaming To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/thunar/+bug/1512120/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1512120]
Just an additional update on my experiences. Thunar using Martin's binary (with the just Harald's patch). Not one crash. I have managed to crash the desktop again, however. I downloaded the latest Firefox archive and extracted it to the desktop. When file-roller finished extracting and went to rename the directory as "firefox" the desktop crashed again. All the icons disappear and conky dies, then after a few seconds the icons return. I'm guessing that the desktop relies on some of the same code as thunar so it is possibly to trigger a crash on renaming. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1512120 Title: [SRU] thunar crashes on file renaming To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/thunar/+bug/1512120/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1512120]
@ Martin Dauskardt Are you using Xubuntu 16.04? Aren't you experiencing any of these crashes? I don't understand why I am the only one seemingly affected. I did a clean install of xubuntu 16.04. No PPAs added. All xfce configuration were deleted with the clean install. Yet for me thunar crashes on almost every file copy or move. I've even had the desktop crash when doing an archive extraction to a folder (the folder renamed itself after extraction and the desktop crashed). I tried looking for your compiled binary to test but I cannot find it in the ubuntu users forum. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1512120 Title: [SRU] thunar crashes on file renaming To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/thunar/+bug/1512120/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1512120]
No success changing thunar default view to compact list. It crashed after a few file moves. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1512120 Title: [SRU] thunar crashes on file renaming To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/thunar/+bug/1512120/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1512120]
Still no crashes for me. Curiously, I have detected one of the related bugs is still present though. I'll mention it here because I think it is related to the crashing bugs. After dragging and dropping a file from one thunar window to another, sometimes to source window adds a ghost entry of the file just moved i.e. you move a file and it disappears from the source window then after a second it reappears, requiring a manual reload to remove the entry. And while I remember, let me extend my thanks to Harald as well as Martin. I wish I could just use the official repo version of thunar but I am very grateful just to be able to use thunar again. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1512120 Title: [SRU] thunar crashes on file renaming To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/thunar/+bug/1512120/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1512120]
Thank you, Martin. I will explore changing my default view. I've always had it on detailed view so I'll be able to see the effect of that quickly. If that fails I'll try the thunar file you directed me too. I remember I tried 15.10 when it came out but there were so many issues with it I went back to 15.04 which was rock solid for me (older glib2 so thunar was very stable). But 15.04 doesn't get security updates any any more so I took a gamble that the thunar bugs in 16.04 LTS were resolved. If I have any success with decreasing the crashes I'll post back so others can benefit too. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1512120 Title: [SRU] thunar crashes on file renaming To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/thunar/+bug/1512120/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1512120]
I now feel confident in saying that Martin's patched thunar binary is worth trying for anyone who has had enough of thunar crashing all the time. I do not know why the "patched" version from the official 16.04 repositories is so unstable but I have not had a single crash in 24 hours with Martin's. I'll add it as an attachment here with it's original name as found in the forum link provide by Martin (I hope you are OK with that, Martin). If the replacement works for anyone else PLEASE post feedback here so it can help the developers. Thanks, Martin! -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1512120 Title: [SRU] thunar crashes on file renaming To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/thunar/+bug/1512120/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1512120]
I don't want to proclaim the problem has gone, but I've been trying Martin's patched thunar binary and after dozens and dozens of attempts to trip it I have not yet managed to crash it yet. I'm using detailed view and dragging and dropping between two thunar windows, each pointing to directories on different drive partitions. Copying, Moving, and renaming with no crash yet. I'll continue testing but what I can already say is that it MORE STABLE than the one that comes from the xubuntu 16.04 repos. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1512120 Title: [SRU] thunar crashes on file renaming To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/thunar/+bug/1512120/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1512120]
Still present in xubutu 16.04 LTS -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1512120 Title: [SRU] thunar crashes on file renaming To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/thunar/+bug/1512120/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1514912]
I'm still getting random Thunar crashes. I gave up on newer distros and went back to Xubuntu 15.04 and for the most part Thunar is stable but then every now and then some condition is met which causes it to crash. Today it was moving files between windows yet again. I wonder if a solution to these race conditions is to introduce an option to have file transactions like copying, moving, and renaming, QUEUED instead of done in parallel. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1514912 Title: Thunar crash while copying files (segfault / possible clash with gnome.zeitgeist.Engine) To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/thunar/+bug/1514912/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
