[Bug 1199774] Re: No calDAV and iCalendar support

[Keefer]

I'm in the process of killing my Google account; switched to Ubuntu
Touch and just noticed that CalDav/CardDav is missing. I'm particularly
concerned with the lack of CardDav support, I'd like to be able to sync
my contacts from my ownCloud installation. Any recent progress on this?

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[Bug 1199774] Re: No calDAV and iCalendar support

[NeoTheThird]

** Also affects: reminders-app
   Importance: Undecided
   Status: New

** Also affects: address-book-app
   Importance: Undecided
   Status: New

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[Bug 1199774] Re: No calDAV and iCalendar support

[NeoTheThird]

Yes, sir! @eDeviser

But don't drop the out of the box Nextcloud/Owncloud support!

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[Bug 1199774] Re: No calDAV and iCalendar support

[eDeviser]

Am I right that this BugPost and the bounty is about the generic iCal
and CalDav implementation, so that it will be possible to sync with any
iCal or card Dav server, not just Owncloud?

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[Bug 1199774] Re: No calDAV and iCalendar support

[David Zschille]

I just increased the bounty. I'm waiting for this feature since a long
time ago. :-)

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[Bug 1199774] Re: No calDAV and iCalendar support

[Robert Broen]

Yep, I thought I'd up to to a nice number. I'd your like Baikal caldav
support ;-)

If I was 100% sure that the bounty is going te (one of) the developers,
I'ld up it more...

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[Bug 1199774] Re: No calDAV and iCalendar support

[NeoTheThird]

I disagree. I think it does make sense to ship it in ubuntu-system-
settings-online-accounts, so that more sync functionality can be added
later. Owncloud and Nextcloud are also capable of syncing Contacts,
Tasks and Notes, it would be totally rad if you could set the account
settings once and have everything working! And no, using Google for this
is not a good option. If i wanted to sell my soul, i'd be using android
or iOS.

Btw, the bounty is now 100$ :)

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[Bug 1199774] Re: No calDAV and iCalendar support

[Alberto Mardegan]

Renato, since the account is specific for the calendar, I think it makes
more sense if the account plugin is shipped by the calendar app.

That said, I can certainly contribute the plugin implementation, just
please let me know what data you expect the plugin to collect from the
user (and in which settings it should be stored).

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[Bug 1199774] Re: No calDAV and iCalendar support

[Renato Araujo Oliveira Filho]

This should be very simple to implement. Owncloud is already sync using
caldav.

The only missing part is the online-account to add the caldav account
into the system.

** Also affects: ubuntu-system-settings-online-accounts (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Undecided
   Status: New

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[Bug 1199774] Re: No calDAV and iCalendar support

[NeoTheThird]

Any updates on this? Btw, i just added 50$ to the bounty, it's now 80$:
https://www.bountysource.com/issues/30551831-no-caldav-and-icalendar-
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[Bug 1199774] Re: No calDAV and iCalendar support

[Richard Ulrich]

Is there a date when to expect generic CalDav support?
I'm in the process of migrating DaviCal to a new server, and rather to go 
through the syncevolution scripts, I would like much more to do the 
configuration on the GUI.
Or is there a way to use the OwnCloud connector with DaviCal?

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[Bug 1199774] Re: No calDAV and iCalendar support

[Jon morley]

Hi @JohnM,

I wasn't doing anything ics. I was simply trying to connect to a server
that is hosting CardDAV/CalDAV setups. I followed the directions here:

http://askubuntu.com/questions/616081/ubuntu-touch-add-contact-list-and-
calendars

More specifically I followed those steps on my Ubuntu desktop install to
make sure I had the right severs/commands. Then I ran the working
commands from my phone. After that I followed the linked page to set up
the sync on cron:

http://askubuntu.com/questions/611761/syncevolution-in-cronjob-to-sync-
the-ubuntu-phone-via-caldav-arddav

You will have to mount your phone's root filesystem as writable to setup
the cron. Hope that helps!

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Re: [Bug 1199774] Re: No calDAV and iCalendar support

[Robert Broen]

Hi John,

My Ubuntu Touch phone is ready and the command is all set, but
unfortunatly the self-asigned certificate on my Baikal server is not
sufficiently safe according to the phone...

I have plans to upgrade it, but there are other people using the
service, so I have to find a window in to bring the service down for a
bit.

I'll get back to you on that one...

Kind regards,

Robert Broen.

On Sat, Oct 1, 2016 at 5:07 PM, John M.  wrote:
> @jmorley I'd be very interested to know how you solved the problem with 
> syncevolution and OTA-13. I posted a question but received no solutions so 
> far:
> http://askubuntu.com/questions/830117/importing-ics-file-in-ubuntu-phone
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[Bug 1199774] Re: No calDAV and iCalendar support

[John M.]

@jmorley I'd be very interested to know how you solved the problem with 
syncevolution and OTA-13. I posted a question but received no solutions so far:
http://askubuntu.com/questions/830117/importing-ics-file-in-ubuntu-phone

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[Bug 1199774] Re: No calDAV and iCalendar support

[Jon morley]

I am using terminal entered syncevolution commands to sync calendars
(CalDAV) and contacts (CardDAV) from a personal server to my Nexus 4
(OTA-13). It works, but figuring out the incantations and setting up the
crons to maintain this wasn't easy and doesn't appear to be sustainable.
I set it up on OTA-12, yet the OTA-13 update broke my settings and I had
to re-enter them.

I too am looking forward to a general purpose entry point for system
managed CalDAV and CardDAV synchronization settings. Will a successful
close to this issue include some kind of generic server entry alongside
the existing account options?

Thank you for all the hard work! I really like the platform!

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[Bug 1199774] Re: No calDAV and iCalendar support

[Robert Broen]

Sounds like good news Bill, can't wait to hook up the phone to Baikal.
Keep up the good work!

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[Bug 1199774] Re: No calDAV and iCalendar support

[Bill Filler]

We've landed multi-calendar google sync for ota13. We're in process of
finishing OwnCloud multi-calendar sync, using the new OwnCloud online
account.


Once this lands, generic calDav support should be easy, just need a generic 
CalDav online account and then it will just work.

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[Bug 1199774] Re: No calDAV and iCalendar support

[Bill Filler]

** Changed in: ubuntu-calendar-app
   Status: Triaged => In Progress

** Changed in: sync-monitor (Ubuntu)
   Status: Confirmed => In Progress

** Changed in: canonical-devices-system-image
   Status: Confirmed => In Progress

** Changed in: ubuntu-calendar-app
 Assignee: (unassigned) => Renato Araujo Oliveira Filho (renatofilho)

** Changed in: sync-monitor (Ubuntu)
 Assignee: (unassigned) => Renato Araujo Oliveira Filho (renatofilho)

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[Bug 1199774] Re: No calDAV and iCalendar support

[Robert Broen]

I sure hope someone is working on this.

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[Bug 1199774] Re: No calDAV and iCalendar support

[Rogier Oudshoorn]

The syncevolution workaround is exactly that - a workaround that forces
you to sync manually. Without a way to automatically sync (we can't
really hook up a cronjob to our script with that readonly filesystem),
it is too hampered for a daily driver. I won't do a final switch to UT
until i can properly sync calendars and contacts.

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[Bug 1199774] Re: No calDAV and iCalendar support

[Einar Mostad]

We really need iCal and CalDav working for this Calendar app to be of
any use for anyone who isn't a Google user (since most people own more
than one device and need syncing). Terminal syncing is not an option for
99.99% of normal people.

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[Bug 1199774] Re: No calDAV and iCalendar support

[James Tigert]

SyncEvoution DOES NOT work. In fact, now that I "stupidly" chose to use
it, my sync operation with Google results in errors. I haven't
troubleshot anything yet, but I wanted to warn any user attempting to
use the script.

It's not a bad script, it just doesn't work the way that "I" assumed it
would.

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[Bug 1199774] Re: No calDAV and iCalendar support

[Khurshid Alam]

@Dominik Baikal tutorials for CalDAV with syncevolution is pending as
community wiki has been closed down due to spammers attack. Stat tuned
at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SyncEvolution/

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[Bug 1199774] Re: No calDAV and iCalendar support

[Tiago Carrondo]

This script does everything for you.
Just fill the blanks on top.

https://gist.github.com/tcarrondo/c932750928c83310fd84f8376ee17f30

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[Bug 1199774] Re: No calDAV and iCalendar support

[Yrjö Selänne]

For those looking for a challenge, there's also a Thunderbird 'CardDav'
issue, which pretty much has a dollar for each thumbs-up on bsource at
$434.usd (after minus 10% fee).

https://www.bountysource.com/issues/1015434-add-support-for-online-
address-books-using-the-carddav-format

** Tags added: bounty

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[Bug 1199774] Re: No calDAV and iCalendar support

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** Also affects: band-aids-uphone
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   Status: New

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[Bug 1199774] Re: No calDAV and iCalendar support

[Daniel]

I just recently switched to Android after waiting for over one year for the 
implementation of an easy to use caldav/carddav sync. I'm using an owncloud 
server with ssl-encryption and synchronisation with sync-evolution from 
terminal failed repeatingly though I imported the concerning self-signed cert 
to the ca-authorities. 
However, this is a no-go for end users who just want to tap a button to sync 
their calendars and contacts and don't want to write scripts they don't even 
fully understand. 
We've got a brand new weather app, new background theme, fixes for all kind of 
shit useless apps but the crucial basics a smartphone must have like calendar 
and contacts sync are still missing and not even scheduled for an ota. 
I have lost faith in canonicals aims and purposes. Ubuntu phone seems to stay a 
toy-like tool for geeks.

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[Bug 1199774] Re: No calDAV and iCalendar support

[Harri Suutari]

Implement the CalDAV support, thanks.

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[Bug 1199774] Re: No calDAV and iCalendar support

[Yrjö Selänne]

Hi there,

With nearly 600 heat points, I consider this to be a big bug for Ubuntu
Touch.

Therefore,
There has been a bounty  created here: ($250)
https://www.bountysource.com/issues/30551831-no-caldav-and-icalendar-support

Note that this is also the highest trending wish-bug to be solved on
bountysource 'thumbs-up'  aswell.

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[Bug 1199774] Re: No calDAV and iCalendar support

[Egbert]

Not having CalDAV sync basically makes the system unusable for me.
CardDAV should also be supported but is less crucial to me. I agree with
all of the above, why is there just support for Google anyway, and not
for iCloud, Microsoft Live or whatever; one of the main reasons for
considering this phone is to maintain your distance from Google to many
potential users.

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[Bug 1199774] Re: No calDAV and iCalendar support

[Bill Filler]

Calendar: calendar syncing is currently done using sync-monitor and
syncevolution, with the plan to eventually replace with the buteo
framework (longer term, non-trivial project). Once this is in place, the
buteo caldav plugin [1] could be used. For the shorter term, work could
be done on sync-monitor to configure syncevolution wtih Owncloud caldav
online account inforrmation such that the existing support for caldav in
syncevolution could be used.

[1] https://git.merproject.org/mer-core/buteo-sync-plugin-caldav

** Tags added: owncloud

** No longer affects: ubuntu-system-settings-online-accounts

** Also affects: canonical-devices-system-image
   Importance: Undecided
   Status: New

** Changed in: canonical-devices-system-image
 Assignee: (unassigned) => Bill Filler (bfiller)

** Changed in: canonical-devices-system-image
Milestone: None => backlog

** Changed in: canonical-devices-system-image
   Importance: Undecided => Wishlist

** Changed in: sync-monitor (Ubuntu)
   Importance: High => Wishlist

** Changed in: ubuntu-calendar-app
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** Changed in: canonical-devices-system-image
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[Bug 1199774] Re: No calDAV and iCalendar support

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** Changed in: ubuntu-calendar-app
   Importance: Medium => High

** Changed in: sync-monitor (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Undecided => High

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[Bug 1199774] Re: No calDAV and iCalendar support

[Dominik Noss]

Please implement a user friendly solution for adding CalDAV synchronization.
There are multiple tutorials for CalDAV with syncevolution, but none of them 
covers Baikal as a server.
Even though there should be little difference, I can't get it to work.
Using syncevolution on the command line is confusing and cumbersome.

This might be very important for everybody who is using neither Google
nor OwnCloud.

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[Bug 1199774] Re: No calDAV and iCalendar support

[DansLeRuSH]

@joachim-8 : Thank you for your response and my bad for (the promising)
Dekko, I had forgotten and I thought about Evolution on desktop (that I
use), all these services in a same soft/GUI. So yeah, no problem with
email.

As I know the "sync-evolution" solution (I had your article on fav,
thank you again for that ;)) is a "command line" solution : make no
mistake, I know my terminal and I have no fear in doing little settings.
But here my point is that Ubuntu Touch deserve a simple GUI to manage
CalDAV/CardDAV connections, centralize and simplify it to the maximum.

I know a lot of people who don't even try GNU/Linux on desktop because
"you have to configure a lot of things like the old DOS" and I can't
imagine bring them to try a mobile OS with the same arguments. Maybe UT
is a bit more challenging than others in a first time but on the basic
functions, it should be intuitive to configure. After numerous testings,
the whole OS is excellent and yes it's a detail ... but people stop on
details ;)

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[Bug 1199774] Re: No calDAV and iCalendar support

[Bastien Ho]

Since the system is caldav/carddav ready (I use it everyday with a
manual sync over terminal) we just miss a graphical user interface.

And I agree with g-marcus, most of UbuntuTouch users want to leave
Google, native and frindly support of open protocols is a required
feature. It can't stay medium.

So +1

** Also affects: ubuntu-system-settings-online-accounts
   Importance: Undecided
   Status: New

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[Bug 1199774] Re: No calDAV and iCalendar support

[Joachim Van der Auwera]

@DansLeRuSH for e-mail there is no problem. Dekko handles IMAP accounts nicely.
For CALdav and contacts, you currently need to use the console, for eample 
using I used and documented on 
http://blog.progs.be/694/ubuntu-phone-synchronizing-your-contacts-and-calendar-with-owncloud

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[Bug 1199774] Re: No calDAV and iCalendar support

[DansLeRuSH]

My Android phone WITHOUT Google Apps (thank you OmniRom) arrives at an
end after more 5 years of intensive usage. I need a new one and I
patiently wait a good Android alternative, Ubuntu preferably and maybe
the Meizu Pro 5. I don't need millions of apps but when I read that I
can't easily set my (non Google) email / agenda or contacts I'm hesitant
: the fun fact, if I understand, is that it's easier to set a non-Google
email on Android.

As said above, we have here primary functions ... do I wait for these
functionalities or do I take a new easily rooted phone AOSP ?

Please, I truly love your work but I really need this sync for my
professional and personal organisation. The more easier the setting is
and the more new users you will have ;)

Best regards

PS : I submit the possibility to have a "CalDav/CardDav Management GUI"
on the uAppExplorer Wishlist and some people are interested anyway ;)
https://uappexplorer.com/wishlist/56794a4904db2d8dbb3944ed

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[Bug 1199774] Re: No calDAV and iCalendar support

[Marcus Wendler]

I agree with the previous speakers: possibility to sync calendars with any free 
caldav sync server is absolute necessary condition to make the ubuntu phone 
ready for daily use. 
Nobody will adopt an ubuntu phone or tablet to deal (only) with google for such 
basic tasks. Most of the potential users of ubuntu phone / tablet are linux and 
open source enthusiasts, who host their data on own servers with software like 
owncloud or baikal. I can not understand, why such a fundamental feature is 
triaged as "medium important" or "undecided" since 2013!
So I ask you to solve this issue because I (and hopefully thousends other 
people) will use ubuntu phone as their primary mobile platform!

Thank you!

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[Bug 1199774] Re: No calDAV and iCalendar support

[Bartosz Kosiorek]

** Description changed:

  A standalone calendar is rather useless, so it needs to support the most
  prevalent and open standards for exchanging calendar data:
  
- - CalDAV for syncing to the cloud (or your own server):
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CalDAV
- http://caldav.calconnect.org/
+ - CalDAV for syncing to the cloud (or your own server):
+ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CalDAV
+ http://caldav.calconnect.org/
  - ICAL for fetching calendars from the web (or importing calendar data)
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ICalendar
+ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ICalendar

** Description changed:

  A standalone calendar is rather useless, so it needs to support the most
  prevalent and open standards for exchanging calendar data:
  
- - CalDAV for syncing to the cloud (or your own server):
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CalDAV
- http://caldav.calconnect.org/
- - ICAL for fetching calendars from the web (or importing calendar data)
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ICalendar
+ - CalDAV for syncing to the cloud (or your own server):
+ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CalDAV
+ http://caldav.calconnect.org/
+ - iCAL for fetching calendars from the web (or importing calendar data)
+ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ICalendar
+ https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5545

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