[Bug 153752] Re: [needs-packaging] apt-torrent

2009-08-16 Thread Andrea Veri
this bug report seems to be no more active and actually looks like apt-
torrent is not really the best choice for Ubuntu. Therefore I'm changing
bug status to invalid. Feel free to re-open if anyone have some other
news about this or simply have a valid rationale to have apt-torrent
packaged into karmic.

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   Status: Confirmed => Invalid

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[Bug 153752] Re: [needs-packaging] apt-torrent

2007-11-08 Thread wildduck
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/106382 Watch this and compare
which one is better. Debtorrent works allready for ubuntu. For apt-
torrent we need a repository where every package is a torrent.  In the
debtorrent solution torrent-creation is much easier I think.

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[Bug 153752] Re: [needs-packaging] apt-torrent

2007-10-28 Thread Kristian Erik Hermansen
Did anyone get around to checking out the updated code?

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[Bug 153752] Re: [needs-packaging] apt-torrent

2007-10-24 Thread Andrea Veri
Sameer, your idea seems to be nice plus we have a working upstream
behind us that can provide any fix we may require to make it working in
Ubuntu the best way possible. I'll try this package tomorrow, so I can
give my first feedback about it, anyway thanks for your work both arnaud
and kristian.

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[Bug 153752] Re: [needs-packaging] apt-torrent

2007-10-24 Thread Sameer Verma
The author (Arnaud Kyheng) mentions that the original goal of the
package was to deal with large packages. I would go beyond that though,
to simply see this as a network alleviation approach to the burst of
traffic that Ubuntu mirrors would see in October and April.

Considering that torrent will scale up in correlation to leechers who
become seeders (especially for small packages, leechers will become
seeders quickly) we should see a much better scale when dist-upgrading.

Currently the Software Sources item under Administration in Gutsy has an
option to add sources that says

"  The APT line includes the type, location and components of a
repository, for example  'deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ gutsy
main'."

Wish:

"The APT line includes the type, location and components of a
repository, for example  'deb torrent://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ gutsy
main'."

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[Bug 153752] Re: [needs-packaging] apt-torrent

2007-10-24 Thread Kristian Erik Hermansen
 Arnaud Kyheng  
to me, Andrea

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 10:46 am (1½ hours ago) 
Hi Kristian,

The main purpose of apt-torrent is to provide a new efficient way to get
open-source software. The target is to be more efficient, for users to
get really large packages, but also for servers to minimize their
bandwidth needs, and provide failsafe repository (using multiple
trackers or DHT in torrent files provide fault tolerance even for
servers). Software packages are getting larger and larger every day and
I doubt that it'll change ;). In particular for professional
applications and games.

I made a first Gutsy package for Ubuntu which is in attachment (source +
binary). I also wrote a short installation and testing guide.

Waiting for your feedback,

Arnaud

Kristian Erik Hermansen a écrit :
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> Hi Arnaud,
>
> That sounds great!  Actually, if this gets into the hardy release,
> then I am sure we can have Canonical set up a few root torrent sites
> (and mirrors) around the world for apt-torrent packages.  In the end,
> it should be beneficial to everyone.  Canonical will save money by
> offloading some of the bandwidth to chunks of mirrors and end-users,
> while users will never be tied to just one apt repository to get those
> large package downloads.  Who knows.  Maybe eventually apt-torrent
> could even become a large feature of the distro itself, blazing the
> way for yet another innovation, thanks to your wonderful software :-)

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[Bug 153752] Re: [needs-packaging] apt-torrent

2007-10-24 Thread Kristian Erik Hermansen
Please let me know if you have any questions as the author has taken the
initiative and fixed up the package for us :-)  I will get back to him
if you can provide some feedback...

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[Bug 153752] Re: [needs-packaging] apt-torrent

2007-10-22 Thread Andrea Veri
we need upstream to modify this a bit before starting with packaging it.
Kristian, can you please contact the original author by mail, ccing me
as well?

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Re: [Bug 153752] Re: [needs-packaging] apt-torrent

2007-10-21 Thread Kristian Erik Hermansen
On 10/21/07, Andrea Veri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> it would be nice to receive some feedback from someone who tried using
> it on Ubuntu. If the only supported distro is Debian Sid, we just don't
> package this for Ubuntu. Kristian, what do you think?

Cameron might be right, but even if the top 100 packages included the
kernel and other very large packages, then it would save a lot of
bandwidth of course.  I think it would be great to get this modified
and packaged for Ubuntu, but we may need the author's help to do that.
 I will also CC the person who brought this to my attention...
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[Bug 153752] Re: [needs-packaging] apt-torrent

2007-10-21 Thread Andrea Veri
it would be nice to receive some feedback from someone who tried using
it on Ubuntu. If the only supported distro is Debian Sid, we just don't
package this for Ubuntu. Kristian, what do you think?

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[Bug 153752] Re: [needs-packaging] apt-torrent

2007-10-21 Thread Cameron Dale
Has anyone actually used this successfully with Ubuntu. From reading the
web site it seems like it will only work with Debian, and then only with
unstable. For example, from the FAQ:

Q: What are the current packages available ?
A: At the moment, with the default testing configuration, the 100 largest 
binary packages from the Unstable/Sid Debian distribution are available.

I guess anything other than those 100 largest binary packages from Sid
would be downloaded by the normal HTTP methods, and so not help the
archive's bandwidth at all. From the installation section:

Note that you cannot benefit of apt-torrent with the stable Debian
distribution (aka Sarge) yet, since the repository doesn’t contains any
package from the Sarge distribution at the moment.

I think some infrastructure would be needed to support this on Ubuntu,
such as a torrent server, seeder, and tracker (unless the author is
willing to support ubuntu as well).

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Re: [Bug 153752] Re: [needs-packaging] apt-torrent

2007-10-21 Thread Kristian Erik Hermansen
On 10/20/07, Andrea Veri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Agreed. Do you want to take care about having apt-torrent well packaged
> and ready for hardy? it would be nice to have a page on REVU for this so
> I can start reviewing it a bit. If not interested in packaging it
> yourself, just let me know so I can move on doing it.

Maybe the author would like to do it?  I am CC'ing the apt-torrent developer...
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[Bug 153752] Re: [needs-packaging] apt-torrent

2007-10-20 Thread Andrea Veri
Agreed. Do you want to take care about having apt-torrent well packaged
and ready for hardy? it would be nice to have a page on REVU for this so
I can start reviewing it a bit. If not interested in packaging it
yourself, just let me know so I can move on doing it.

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Re: [Bug 153752] Re: [needs-packaging] apt-torrent

2007-10-19 Thread Kristian Erik Hermansen
On 10/19/07, Andrea Veri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> we cannot sync files from an unofficial repository or website, but if
> you wish we can take it as an example to start with for packaging apt-
> torrent for the next Ubuntu's release: Hardy. What do you think?

I think it is a great idea.  The point is to minimize the repository
load for Canonical, not just for ISO release, but for the package
updates during and after release as well.  I actually think it would
be more efficient than trying to route people based on their location.
 Torrent protocol does that automatically for you :-)  It would be a
cool feature.  If it really works, think about the impact of having a
simple GUI option to enable this at some tested point off in the
future -- which would really make a Ubuntu cutting-edge, peer-oriented
support structure.  It would help Canonical save lots of money too...
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[Bug 153752] Re: [needs-packaging] apt-torrent

2007-10-19 Thread Andrea Veri
we cannot sync files from an unofficial repository or website, but if
you wish we can take it as an example to start with for packaging apt-
torrent for the next Ubuntu's release: Hardy. What do you think?

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[Bug 153752] Re: [needs-packaging] apt-torrent

2007-10-18 Thread Maurizio Moriconi
In the official site ( http://sianka.free.fr/spip.php?rubrique3 ) there is a 
.deb,
can we make a simple sync from this?

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Re: [Bug 153752] Re: [needs-packaging] apt-torrent

2007-10-18 Thread Maurizio Moriconi
In the official site (http://sianka.free.fr/spip.php?rubrique3) there is a
.deb,
can we make a simple sync from this?


2007/10/18, Cesare Tirabassi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> ** Changed in: ubuntu
>Importance: Undecided => Wishlist
>Status: New => Confirmed
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[Bug 153752] Re: [needs-packaging] apt-torrent

2007-10-18 Thread Cesare Tirabassi
** Changed in: ubuntu
   Importance: Undecided => Wishlist
   Status: New => Confirmed

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