[Bug 1602888] Re: Dell Inspiron 7559 fans do not shut off once started, even when cool
Occams Beard, to keep this relevant to upstream, one would want check for, and test the latest mainline kernel (now 4.9-rc4) as it is released. Could you please advise? ** Changed in: linux (Ubuntu) Status: Triaged => Incomplete -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1602888 Title: Dell Inspiron 7559 fans do not shut off once started, even when cool To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1602888/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1602888] Re: Dell Inspiron 7559 fans do not shut off once started, even when cool
Oh, and I have found this: http://linux.dell.com/files/ubuntu/precise/12.04-OSP1/ but it is Ubuntu 12.04, probably good for study purposes, not sure I would want using 4-years old OS ... -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1602888 Title: Dell Inspiron 7559 fans do not shut off once started, even when cool To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1602888/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1602888] Re: Dell Inspiron 7559 fans do not shut off once started, even when cool
Peter, thank for clarifying things for me, I appreciate it. Also, have you tried the http://linux.dell.com/ ? It's kind of unofficial dell Linux support site. Or so they say ... >> Would it be illegal to release it?? Its open source anyway. :/ Sure, Ubuntu is open source, not sure if you can take parts of Ubuntu, change it and claim it proprietary. After all, I never read the license ... :) Anyway, I don't think they would make much fuss about it. So, just give it to us, please ... ;) -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1602888 Title: Dell Inspiron 7559 fans do not shut off once started, even when cool To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1602888/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1602888] Re: Dell Inspiron 7559 fans do not shut off once started, even when cool
thanks, I'm still determined to try a few more things. If nothing works, I have no choice but to try i8kutils anyway. And I feel better having a reference config that works from someone with the same machine. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1602888 Title: Dell Inspiron 7559 fans do not shut off once started, even when cool To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1602888/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1602888] Re: Dell Inspiron 7559 fans do not shut off once started, even when cool
This is what I am using, but I am not taking any responsibility of
damage caused on your laptop. :) Also you can play with the temps to get
the fan speeds to you satisfaction...
# /etc/i8kmon.conf
# Run as daemon, override with --daemon option
set config(daemon) 0
# Automatic fan control, override with --auto option
set config(auto)1
# Report status on stdout, override with --verbose option
set config(verbose) 1
# Status check timeout (seconds), override with --timeout option
set config(timeout) 20
# For computer with 2 fans, use a variant of this instead:
# Temperature thresholds: {fan_speeds low_ac high_ac low_batt high_batt}
set config(0) {{0 0} -1 55 -1 55}
set config(1) {{1 1} 36 65 36 65}
set config(2) {{1 1} 50 75 50 75}
set config(3) {{2 2} 70 128 70 128}
# end of file
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[Bug 1602888] Re: Dell Inspiron 7559 fans do not shut off once started, even when cool
peter-biely, could you share your i8kutils settings? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1602888 Title: Dell Inspiron 7559 fans do not shut off once started, even when cool To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1602888/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1602888] Re: Dell Inspiron 7559 fans do not shut off once started, even when cool
Would it be illegal to release it?? Its open source anyway. :/ I imagined that Dell wound not "guarantee" that would work or give any support to those other users. (But we know it works) -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1602888 Title: Dell Inspiron 7559 fans do not shut off once started, even when cool To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1602888/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1602888] Re: Dell Inspiron 7559 fans do not shut off once started, even when cool
Petr: ad 1: Possibly yes ad 2: yes (I haven't seen anywhere the ISO for download) ad 3: i8kutils seems working, I've tried that. But yes, in case of wrong temp. setting you can damage your CPU/GPU, I'm using it as workaround but I am not satisfied (not sleeping very well) by using that. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1602888 Title: Dell Inspiron 7559 fans do not shut off once started, even when cool To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1602888/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1602888] Re: Dell Inspiron 7559 fans do not shut off once started, even when cool
Just to clarify this for me, because I'm getting kind of lost in reading all the posts, both Ubuntu developers in this thread, and kernel developers in the kernel thread where this issue is reported are more or less blaming this on Dell firmware, am I getting this correctly? Concerning the Dell certified version of Ubuntu - Dell does not allow other users whose machine did not originally come with it to download, i.e. making it public to download, am I correct? I also have a question about the i8kutils - does it remedy the issue completely without side effects and is it dangerous to use it? I mean, it's not vendor certified software and it meddles with temperature settings for the fans, so if I really screw up the settings, can I potentially fry my CPU? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1602888 Title: Dell Inspiron 7559 fans do not shut off once started, even when cool To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1602888/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1602888] Re: Dell Inspiron 7559 fans do not shut off once started, even when cool
Me too please! -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1602888 Title: Dell Inspiron 7559 fans do not shut off once started, even when cool To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1602888/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1602888] Re: Dell Inspiron 7559 fans do not shut off once started, even when cool
Count me in as well, I likely won't have time this week to try it, but I would be very interested to know what Dell does differently with their version of Ubuntu -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1602888 Title: Dell Inspiron 7559 fans do not shut off once started, even when cool To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1602888/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1602888] Re: Dell Inspiron 7559 fans do not shut off once started, even when cool
count me in for the iso! -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1602888 Title: Dell Inspiron 7559 fans do not shut off once started, even when cool To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1602888/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1602888] Re: Dell Inspiron 7559 fans do not shut off once started, even when cool
Hi! I have this Laptop (i5 model) and I bought it from Dell (Brazil) already with Ubuntu (14.04) certified. Using the Dell tools I can make an ISO of this version. I have been using this version of Ubuntu for months now and it doesn't have any problems. ANY. (I even updated the Nvidia drivers using a PPA, it works!). Are any of you interested in this ISO? I can upload it for you to download (using wetransfer or something). It could help to find the real issues. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1602888 Title: Dell Inspiron 7559 fans do not shut off once started, even when cool To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1602888/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1602888] Re: Dell Inspiron 7559 fans do not shut off once started, even when cool
Fan issue persists on 4.8.6 and 4.9-RC3 with BIOS 1.2.0. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1602888 Title: Dell Inspiron 7559 fans do not shut off once started, even when cool To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1602888/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1602888] Re: Dell Inspiron 7559 fans do not shut off once started, even when cool
additional info: running on integrated graphics HD 530 with 16.04 LTS + 4.4 kernel I just updated to BIOS version: 1.2.0 [released: 31 Oct 2016] issue persists. [I will install and test 16.10+4.8 next week and post results] -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1602888 Title: Dell Inspiron 7559 fans do not shut off once started, even when cool To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1602888/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1602888] Re: Dell Inspiron 7559 fans do not shut off once started, even when cool
I've read (but I do not remember where) that Lenovo had the same problem with the fans on some models with 6700HQ CPU, but they released BIOS update which resolved this problem, so it seems like a problem of ACPI/BIOS (maybe I am just wrong and the problem is really somewhere else). On the other hand XPS 15 models seems working correctly so I'd blame DELL incompetency (or lack of willing) to fix this problem. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1602888 Title: Dell Inspiron 7559 fans do not shut off once started, even when cool To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1602888/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1602888] Re: Dell Inspiron 7559 fans do not shut off once started, even when cool
Correction, I mean 7559,not 7759 ... sorry -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1602888 Title: Dell Inspiron 7559 fans do not shut off once started, even when cool To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1602888/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1602888] Re: Dell Inspiron 7559 fans do not shut off once started, even when cool
Occams Beard, have you tested the fan issue with kernel 4.8? Here, you only mention kernel 4.7, but 4.8 was supposed to fix Skylake power management issues. I have noticed people having fan issues on other laptop models with Skylake, mostly i7 6700hq, (Asus, Lenovo), as well in Linux, so this points to the fans problem being a broader issue. On the other hand I see people here and the other kernel thread reporting that 4.8 alone has not fixed the problem for them (I have seen 2 so far). It would be nice to have more data in order to be able to clearly distinguish whether the 7759 fan issue is a Skylake problem alone, or if there is something else in play. I haven't found any reports from those other folks outside the 7759 linux community who previously had fan issues too, to see whether the 4.8 has had any improvement for them yet. 4.8 has only been out for about a month, so I guess there is not enough data ... -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1602888 Title: Dell Inspiron 7559 fans do not shut off once started, even when cool To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1602888/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1602888] Re: Dell Inspiron 7559 fans do not shut off once started, even when cool
i'm also experiencing this issue - only running on integrated graphics getting 3.5-4 hrs. average battery life and hoping to get more if and when this issue is fixed. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1602888 Title: Dell Inspiron 7559 fans do not shut off once started, even when cool To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1602888/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1602888] Re: Dell Inspiron 7559 fans do not shut off once started, even when cool
> one guy was actually claimimg the other day that 7559 worked for him almost out of the box with Debian-testing "Working" can be very subjective depending on who you ask. This bug report and the kernel bugzilla report show that many users are having the fan issue. In any case, let's not clutter up this bug report with issues/opinions/etc not related to the fan bug. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1602888 Title: Dell Inspiron 7559 fans do not shut off once started, even when cool To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1602888/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1602888] Re: Dell Inspiron 7559 fans do not shut off once started, even when cool
Thank you so much for your inputs, everyone ... > If Nvidia is properly shutted down, the only big issue lasted is a bad Skylake power management in Linux (going no deeper than package c-state 3), but then almost any Skylake laptop is not the best choice. Wasn't Skylake bad power management supposed to be fixed with kernel 4.8? I'm not saying it is, but I saw the announcement by the mighty Linus himself quoted and reposted everywhere ... > Stay far away from it if you are a Linux user. It probably has the same > crappy Dell bios/ACPI. Also Dell is no help and is generally clueless about > everything. Well, that's my dilema - I've read about the issues and the shitty Dell support, on the other hand 7566 is a real price breaker - i7 with 8 threads, nVidia 960 4gb,8gb ddr4, 1920x1080 display and 128 gb ssd + another 500gb hdd for the price of 1100$, you won't find much competion there, at least not where I live, and I want to also use it for occasional Win gaming, although I can't stand Win for more than game launching. I could get the same configuration Linux certified, but it's about extra 200$, and I would have to ship it from Germany as there is only a few shops that sell Linux certified laptops around Europe, I live in Prague, and it's not exactly a manufacturer with a shop around the corner, so in case of warranty repair it's going back to Germany. With the Dell, I can buy in my favorite internet computer store. Then some people say it sucks with Linux, others say it actually works pretty fine for them, especially with the latest kernel version. Most of the issues looks solvable, more or less, except of the fan issue, but again, some people don't experience it, one guy was actually claimimg the other day that 7559 worked for him almost out of the box with Debian-testing, no issues whatsoever, so I'm kind off being torn appart. In the end, it's a little gamble, I guess ... Alex, how is your battery life? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1602888 Title: Dell Inspiron 7559 fans do not shut off once started, even when cool To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1602888/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1602888] Re: Dell Inspiron 7559 fans do not shut off once started, even when cool
cat /proc/acpi/bbswitch says the discrete nvidia card is OFF. Fans are still running. I do not use bumblebee/optirun, only bbswitch. I will try bumblebee when i get some free time and see if that makes any difference. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1602888 Title: Dell Inspiron 7559 fans do not shut off once started, even when cool To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1602888/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1602888] Re: Dell Inspiron 7559 fans do not shut off once started, even when cool
> Disabling nvidia with bbswitch makes no difference for me. Fans keep on spinning. I have an i7. Are you sure it going off? What "cat /proc/acpi/bbswitch" and "optirun --status" do say? Anyway I can't say sure for i7 model. > I am not convinced the fan issue even has anything to do with the graphics. It has to do with termperature. And running nvidia always on (default behaviour) leads to higher temps and so spinning fans. > Stay far away from it if you are a Linux user > From mine point of view, buying this model was a big mistake for Linux usage People, let's don't extrapolate your negative expirence with 7559 i7 model on 7559 at whole or 7566 (which is not even tested). As for me 7559 i5 is a very good model for Linux. Even bad Skylake support under Linux shouldn't short CPU life, since this model uses HQ series processors, and not U series. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1602888 Title: Dell Inspiron 7559 fans do not shut off once started, even when cool To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1602888/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1602888] Re: Dell Inspiron 7559 fans do not shut off once started, even when cool
Has anyone tried changing the EFI .aml files to try and fix some of the issues in ubuntu? I saw a hackingtosh tutorial for el capital (which is an os that was not made for skylake) on 7559 i7 UHD where they modify efi .aml files to make it work. The result was a i7 7559 uhd laptop running macos with the same battery time as windows and also with the same fan behaviour as windows. In the tutorial they disabled the nvidia card (which I don't need in linux) and they also made some patches to for the power management and procesor turbo modes all in the .aml files. I understabd it is posible to downlaod the efi files from the bios, uncompile them and modify them in linux, and to test you can use the e option in grub to indicate wehre the new file that has the modified aml is located. Unfortunately I have no time to play with this setting to see if I can get battery life and the fan under control, but if anyone can it would be great. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1602888 Title: Dell Inspiron 7559 fans do not shut off once started, even when cool To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1602888/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1602888] Re: Dell Inspiron 7559 fans do not shut off once started, even when cool
> Dell has introduced a successor of Inspiron 7559 - Inspiron 7566 Stay far away from it if you are a Linux user. It probably has the same crappy Dell bios/ACPI. Also Dell is no help and is generally clueless about everything. Actually, I would advise staying away from any nvidia optimus laptop. Linux support is a kludge at best. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1602888 Title: Dell Inspiron 7559 fans do not shut off once started, even when cool To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1602888/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1602888] Re: Dell Inspiron 7559 fans do not shut off once started, even when cool
Disabling nvidia with bbswitch makes no difference for me. Fans keep on spinning. I have an i7. I am not convinced the fan issue even has anything to do with the graphics. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1602888 Title: Dell Inspiron 7559 fans do not shut off once started, even when cool To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1602888/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1602888] Re: Dell Inspiron 7559 fans do not shut off once started, even when cool
s/big issue/battery hog/ -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1602888 Title: Dell Inspiron 7559 fans do not shut off once started, even when cool To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1602888/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1602888] Re: Dell Inspiron 7559 fans do not shut off once started, even when cool
> but not as good (often) as on Windows Most likely he hasn't configured and tested whether Bumblebee or bbswitch properly disables Nvidia GPU when not used. After doing this at my side my fans are managed not worser than in Windows. > On the other hand, the i7 model has this fans problem, see my bug I've created on bugzilla Understand then. Unfortunately I have no i7 model to test :( > Also battery lasts less on Linux than on Windows. From mine point of view, buying this model was a big mistake for Linux usage. If Nvidia is properly shutted down, the only big issue lasted is a bad Skylake power management in Linux (going no deeper than package c-state 3), but then almost any Skylake laptop is not the best choice. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1602888 Title: Dell Inspiron 7559 fans do not shut off once started, even when cool To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1602888/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1602888] Re: Dell Inspiron 7559 fans do not shut off once started, even when cool
A friend of mine he has i5 model and he claims that the fans are shutting off, but not as good (often) as on Windows. On the other hand, the i7 model has this fans problem, see my bug I've created on bugzilla. Also battery lasts less on Linux than on Windows. From mine point of view, buying this model was a big mistake for Linux usage. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1602888 Title: Dell Inspiron 7559 fans do not shut off once started, even when cool To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1602888/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1602888] Re: Dell Inspiron 7559 fans do not shut off once started, even when cool
Guys, I don't know what the fans issue you have with 7559. Fans on i5 model when Bumblebee is correctly configured (check whether it disables the Nvidia GPU when its not used) are behaving ok. As for DDR4 I see no benefit atm. There is no low voltage support yet, so I'd avoid getting DDR4 laptops right now. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1602888 Title: Dell Inspiron 7559 fans do not shut off once started, even when cool To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1602888/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1602888] Re: Dell Inspiron 7559 fans do not shut off once started, even when cool
Dell has introduced a successor of Inspiron 7559 - Inspiron 7566 at the end of October 2016 - http://www.dell.com/sg/p/inspiron-15-7566-laptop/pd?oc=w51755724sgw10 .It has got the same CPU, GPU and display but comes with DDR4 RAM and SSD disk. It also has a new look, much uglier than 7559 in my opinion ☺, but in the end something I can probably live with ... Since it has been around for only a few days, there is virtually no information on how it works with linux, so I guess I can only extrapolate whether it's going to have the same issues as the 7559 and potetially higher risks since it has not been tested. Nevertheless, I welcome all your inputs and tips ... -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1602888 Title: Dell Inspiron 7559 fans do not shut off once started, even when cool To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1602888/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1602888] Re: Dell Inspiron 7559 fans do not shut off once started, even when cool
Regarding not getting into deep power states, maybe this is the culprit? [0.00] Command line: initrd=\efi\nixos\f74mgfd5d4k9n154p0ffs5r0d3zazv3n-initrd-initrd.efi systemConfig=/nix/store/50044hcm6lf7fc48nlikfpbap4zjp54n-nixos-system-nixos-16.09.773.b8ede35 init=/nix/store/50044hcm6lf7fc48nlikfpbap4zjp54n-nixos-system-nixos-16.09.773.b8ede35/init loglevel=4 pcie_aspm=force nouveau.modeset=0 [0.00] Kernel command line: initrd=\efi\nixos\f74mgfd5d4k9n154p0ffs5r0d3zazv3n-initrd-initrd.efi systemConfig=/nix/store/50044hcm6lf7fc48nlikfpbap4zjp54n-nixos-system-nixos-16.09.773.b8ede35 init=/nix/store/50044hcm6lf7fc48nlikfpbap4zjp54n-nixos-system-nixos-16.09.773.b8ede35/init loglevel=4 pcie_aspm=force nouveau.modeset=0 [0.00] PCIe ASPM is forcibly enabled [0.285133] ACPI FADT declares the system doesn't support PCIe ASPM, so disable it [0.398009] acpi PNP0A08:00: _OSC: OS supports [ExtendedConfig ASPM ClockPM Segments MSI] [0.398040] acpi PNP0A08:00: _OSC failed (AE_ERROR); *disabling ASPM* -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1602888 Title: Dell Inspiron 7559 fans do not shut off once started, even when cool To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1602888/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1602888] Re: Dell Inspiron 7559 fans do not shut off once started, even when cool
Already tried the i8kutils, but this is just workaround, not a real solution for this problem. Also I see that however the CPU is on kernel 4.8 quite effective with power management the whole package can't reach lower than C3 state. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1602888 Title: Dell Inspiron 7559 fans do not shut off once started, even when cool To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1602888/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1602888] Re: Dell Inspiron 7559 fans do not shut off once started, even when cool
Perhaps a workaround: try to install i8kutils! It worked for me, but I'm not sure if it is a real solution. (after installing that package, both fans stopped, but they not started when CPU's temperature were over 60C...) -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1602888 Title: Dell Inspiron 7559 fans do not shut off once started, even when cool To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1602888/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1602888] Re: Dell Inspiron 7559 fans do not shut off once started, even when cool
I've created a bug for kernel (hopefully correctly) https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=153281 ** Bug watch added: Linux Kernel Bug Tracker #153281 http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=153281 -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1602888 Title: Dell Inspiron 7559 fans do not shut off once started, even when cool To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1602888/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1602888] Re: Dell Inspiron 7559 fans do not shut off once started, even when cool
I've noticed that without the nvidia driver installed the GPU temp sensor always reads 1c. After the nvidia driver is installed it reports the correct temp. I think probably not related to the fan issue. Also it seems strange that the fans stopping didn't survive a reboot. I've noticed that if the laptop is cool sometimes the fans will stop on their own. But this happens very very rarely, and only if the ambient temp is cool as well. The best explanation/theory I've heard for the fan issue is #14 on this thread: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu-certification/+question/293705 In any case I think this bug needs to be reported upstream to the Linux kernel team. I'm not sure where or to which maintainer though. I've had to resort to using Windows 10 with cygwin (Yuck) and unfortunately had to remove Ubuntu to free up drive space :( -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1602888 Title: Dell Inspiron 7559 fans do not shut off once started, even when cool To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1602888/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1602888] Re: Dell Inspiron 7559 fans do not shut off once started, even when cool
Guys, by installing kernel 4.8-RC2 I've noticed (until I've rebooted) that fans were working fine, once the CPU was heated up they started to spin and then once cooled down to about 41C they stopped. Only one thing I've noticed in psensor utility was that the GPU temperature min/current/max was still 1C! I was running on Intel GPU and powertop package state was only C2. So there pops up the question: Is there a possibility that the fans problem is related to sensor from Intel/nVidia GPU? Unfortunately I am not able to reproduce this again so I would take at least a screenshot. Because after reboot the issue is presented on Kernel 4.8.0-040800rc2 and PSensor shows correct GPU temperature again. http://imgur.com/pCSfqUi -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1602888 Title: Dell Inspiron 7559 fans do not shut off once started, even when cool To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1602888/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1602888] Re: Dell Inspiron 7559 fans do not shut off once started, even when cool
** Changed in: linux (Ubuntu) Status: Confirmed => Triaged -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1602888 Title: Dell Inspiron 7559 fans do not shut off once started, even when cool To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1602888/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1602888] Re: Dell Inspiron 7559 fans do not shut off once started, even when cool
After installing the v4.7-rc7 mainline build kernel I can confirm that this bug still exists. I installed the following 3 debs with sudo dpkg -i *.deb: linux-headers-4.7.0-040700rc7_4.7.0-040700rc7.201607110032_all.deb linux-headers-4.7.0-040700rc7-generic_4.7.0-040700rc7.201607110032_amd64.deb linux-image-4.7.0-040700rc7-generic_4.7.0-040700rc7.201607110032_amd64.deb Next, I rebooted the laptop and confirmed I was running on 4.7 with uname -r: 4.7.0-040700rc7-generic I used the laptop for a few minutes until the fans came on. The fans continued to run, and are still running 30 minutes later. Here's the output of lm-sensors showing that the cpu is cool, yet the fans are spinning away. dell_smm-virtual-0 Adapter: Virtual device Processor Fan: 1935 RPM Processor Fan: 2134 RPM CPU:+33.0°C GPU: +1.0°C SODIMM: +45.0°C Other thoughts - I don't know if this is relevant to the fan issue, but in powertop under the "idle stats" tab, the CPU package never gets past C2. This is the case with all kernels I've tried. Perhaps the fan issue is related to the screwy skylake power management? I've attached a text file of the powertop idle stats with the 4.7 kernel. ** Attachment added: "powertop-idle-4.7rc7.txt" https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1602888/+attachment/4701811/+files/powertop-idle-4.7rc7.txt ** Changed in: linux (Ubuntu) Status: Incomplete => Confirmed ** Tags added: kernel-bug-exists-upstream kernel-bug-exists- upstream-4.7-rc7 -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1602888 Title: Dell Inspiron 7559 fans do not shut off once started, even when cool To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1602888/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1602888] Re: Dell Inspiron 7559 fans do not shut off once started, even when cool
Occams Beard, thank you for reporting this and helping make Ubuntu better. In order to allow additional upstream developers to examine the issue, at your earliest convenience, could you please test the latest upstream kernel available from http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/?C=N;O=D ? Please keep in mind the following: 1) The one to test is at the very top line at the top of the page (not the daily folder). 2) The release names are irrelevant. 3) The folder time stamps aren't indicative of when the kernel actually was released upstream. 4) Install instructions are available at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/MainlineBuilds . If testing on your main install would be inconvenient, one may: 1) Install Ubuntu to a different partition and then test this there. 2) Backup, or clone the primary install. If the latest kernel did not allow you to test to the issue (ex. you couldn't boot into the OS) please make a comment in your report about this, and continue to test the next most recent kernel version until you can test to the issue. Once you've tested the upstream kernel, please comment on which kernel version specifically you tested. If this issue is fixed in the mainline kernel, please add the following tags by clicking on the yellow circle with a black pencil icon, next to the word Tags, located at the bottom of the report description: kernel-fixed-upstream kernel-fixed-upstream-X.Y-rcZ Where X, and Y are the first two numbers of the kernel version, and Z is the release candidate number if it exists. If the mainline kernel does not fix the issue, please add the following tags: kernel-bug-exists-upstream kernel-bug-exists-upstream-X.Y-rcZ Please note, an error to install the kernel does not fit the criteria of kernel-bug-exists-upstream. Also, you don't need to apport-collect further unless specifically requested to do so. Once testing of the latest upstream kernel is complete, please mark this report Status Confirmed. Please let us know your results. Thank you for your understanding. ** Tags added: latest-bios-1.1.8 ** Changed in: linux (Ubuntu) Status: Confirmed => Incomplete -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1602888 Title: Dell Inspiron 7559 fans do not shut off once started, even when cool To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1602888/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1602888] Re: Dell Inspiron 7559 fans do not shut off once started, even when cool
** Changed in: linux (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided => Medium -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1602888 Title: Dell Inspiron 7559 fans do not shut off once started, even when cool To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1602888/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1602888] Re: Dell Inspiron 7559 fans do not shut off once started, even when cool
A lot of Dell Inspiron 7559 users are facing this annoying bug. It doesn't matter if we're using the Intel Graphic card or the Nvidia one. I have the problem under Linux Mint and Kubuntu. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1602888 Title: Dell Inspiron 7559 fans do not shut off once started, even when cool To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1602888/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
